These are the new rules after 911. AmeriKA under George W. Bush.

I prefer the America Keith Olbermann talks about. What are your thoughts / comments on this?

How far does 911 especially when it is a FALSE-FLAG INSIDE JOB change America and her Constitution and her respect for human rights, international law and justice?

Where do good people draw the line? Pls review and critique.

KEITH OLBERMANN SPECIAL COMMENT ON WATERBOARDING NOV 5, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arWJ358tZgU

From tonight's Countdown with Keith Olbermann:
(excuse the poor quality)

Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/v/90B-Ii4lz3Q

This is where your focus should be:

Source: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20070806_9_11_suspect_says_CIA_tortured_him.html

9/11 suspect says CIA tortured him

By Josh White and Julie Tate

Washington Post

Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, was subjected to the CIA's harshest interrogation methods while he was held in secret prisons around the world for more than three years, part of an interrogation regimen that the International Committee of the Red Cross has called "tantamount to torture," according to an article published on the New Yorker magazine's Web site yesterday.
In a 12-page article released Saturday, reporter Jane Mayer analyzes the development of the CIA's secret interrogation techniques and writes that a confidential Red Cross report to the U.S. government details Mohammed's assertions that he was tortured by the CIA.

Much of the talk at 911blogger lately has moved away from compiling evidence regarding government complicity with 9/11 and toward questions about activism. What next? many are saying.

I believe, and have stated, that 9/11 Truth has two years before the door of opportunity closes. I do not believe the Democrats will push for a 9/11 investigation. I do believe, however, that there are other ways to elicit an investigation. This news item suggested one of them:

Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuses

"New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers, for their alleged roles in abuses committed at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison and at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The plaintiffs in the case include 11 Iraqis who were prisoners at Abu Ghraib, as well as Mohammad al-Qahtani, a Saudi held at Guantanamo, whom the U.S. has identified as the so-called "20th hijacker" and a would-be participant in the 9/11 hijackings. As TIME first reported in June 2005, Qahtani underwent a "special interrogation plan," personally approved by Rumsfeld, which the U.S. says produced valuable intelligence. But to obtain it, according to the log of his interrogation and government reports, Qahtani was subjected to forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, prolonged stress positions, sleep deprivation and other controversial interrogation techniques."

The 9/11 Commission never interviewed KSM, nor his interrogators, and could not corroborate his alleged testimony. Now Cheney admits KSM was tortured. How reliable is most of the info in chapters 5 and 7 of the 9/11 Commission Report?

Cheney Admits Water Torture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

Scott Hennen: And terrorist interrogations and that debate is another example. And I've had people call and say, please, let the Vice President know that if it takes dunking a terrorist in water, we're all for it, if it saves American lives. Again, this debate seems a little silly given the threat we face, would you agree?

The Vice President: I do agree. And I think the terrorist threat, for example, with respect to our ability to interrogate high value detainees like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, that's been a very important tool that we've had to be able to secure the nation. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed provided us with enormously valuable information about how many there are, about how they plan, what their training processes are and so forth, we've learned a lot. We need to be able to continue that.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/15849585.htm

MIDEAST | Israelis have experience in interrogation issues now facing U.S.
Fighting terror with torture
As Bush determines what is acceptable, Israel’s decisions offer insight.
By DION NISSENBAUM
McClatchy Newspapers

DION NISSENBAUM | MCCLATCHY TRIBUNE
Mohammed Barghouthi, a Palestinian Authority official interrogated by Israel for several weeks last summer, demonstrates the position he was held in during questioning.

JERUSALEM | Long before the Bush administration launched its war on terrorism, opened secret detention centers or debated the wisdom of harsh interrogation techniques, Israel wrestled with similar questions about protecting itself.

President Bush soon must prepare an executive order that will outline what methods the CIA can use under a law signed last week. Backers of the law contend that their measure will prevent the use of the most contentious methods, such as “water-boarding.” But the law gives the president broad discretion to decide what tactics to approve, and Israel’s experience could provide guidance.

Since Israel’s Supreme Court curbed the use of extreme techniques in 1999, human rights studies suggest that interrogators are relying more on psychological tricks, informants and electronic surveillance to solicit information.

http://www.current.tv/pods/supernews/PD04527

Star-Spangled Terror
// 10.16.2006

An eerie Halloween night at the White House as Cheney demonstrates the effectiveness of waterboarding and the ghosts of Presidents past show up to sing...

Terror Bills days Bush can "interpret the meaning and Application" of International Standards for prisoner treatment - Seems fair enough to me US Army CIA
.. cartoon by Latuffe 2006

This cartoon says it better with one image than I could say with hundreds of words.

two honest articles about US torture plans:

http://ncronline.org/NCR_Online/archives2/2006c/092906/092906s.htm

http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=9740

Whacko christian is a 911 truther.

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=111593&ran=56921

Chomsky news:

Chomsky Addresses Crisis in Middle EastAlive and Well, Professor Emeritus
Speaks to Packed Audience in Kirsch Auditorium

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V126/N41/41chomsky.html

Allegations of severe torture have regularly emerged from Iraq

Torture may be worse now in Iraq than under former leader Saddam Hussein, the UN's chief anti-torture expert says.

Manfred Nowak said the situation in Iraq was "out of control", with abuses being committed by security forces, militia groups and anti-US insurgents.

Bodies found in the Baghdad morgue "often bear signs of severe torture", said the human rights office of the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq in a report.

The wounds confirmed reports given by refugees from Iraq, Mr Nowak said.

He told journalists at a briefing in Geneva that he had yet to visit Iraq, but he was able to base his information on autopsies and interviews with Iraqis in neighbouring Jordan.