and very little damage from "falling debris". As for what the black band might be, got me--I suppose it could be a trick of the camera, or some kind of long tarp hanging down--we can't know what relevance it has without more info on what it might be, if "anything"...

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I must have been mistaken when the second video posted said, "We are also told by Port Authority officials that the building over there which is building #7, which you can see, uh... it is referred to as building #7, it's about, oh, I would say probably a 20 story building, that there is some concern on the part of Port Authority officials, about the STABILITY of that building at this point. So obviously as we have been discussing all day a very very difficult circumstance here as to exactly when that area really is going to be truly secure", and I "inferred" that they made a reference to the STABILITY of building #7.

Funny how that honest, and accurate posting got voted down.

Seems to me maybe people need to go read this.

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Evaporated steel!

Come on..... they act like they have no idea what would cause this.

Let me tell them how to figure it out.

First.... find out the temps necessary to cause this.

Second..... find out what could cause those temperatures.

Third...... test the chemical residue

Fourth...... return a couple million dollars not needed for further analysis.

I really do not think that they wanted the symmetrical collapse of 7.... but at the same time I think they thought that they could get away with almost whatever they wanted.

Nobody would believe that the government would be involved.

"We can contain this fire with two hoses"....start the coundown...10....9.....8.....7....6.....5.....4.....3.....2.....1....BOOM!
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Try during the collapse of the towers.....were there people standing there paying attention to the details as the towers collapsed?

this ain't rocket science.
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Former NYPD Officer & 9/11 First Responder Craig Bartmer:

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I don't know what the fear is coming out and talking about it? I don't know -- but it's the truth."

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"I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself... Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit's hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw... I am shocked at the story we've heard about it to be quite honest."

They had some real geniuses working this demo. They could have at least made this look halfway chaotic. Something had to go completely haywire.... I have to give these guys some credit..... right?
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If that is your take then there should have been far more of these collapses. Yo0u make me laugh sometimes Mark.

You act like these buildings were a cheerleader pyramid.

steel structures do not collapse..... not without a little help..... you are the one grasping here buddy
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I can't wrap my brain around how damage to 2 exterior collumns and the fires caused complete and total collapse. Was the material in the heart of the building combustible? I am not very familiar with the inside of 7, but weren't the elevators in the heart like most steel framed highrises?

How tall was the final rubble pile of 7?

I think they didn't think we would pay any attention.

Motive..... they had plenty of that.

There are many plausable reasons. They could have simply wanted to cover evidence of their many crimes and criminal transactions.

Same reason they hit the area of the Pentagon responsible for following the $2.3 Trillion which was announced on Sept 10th by Donald Rumsfeld.

There is a very strong possibility that the SEC was also investigating many large money transfers.... many involving the World Banking Leaders located in WTC7. The money didn't go anywhere... just any record of the money or the trail it left behind.

BOOM!... gone
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""We were watching the building [WTC7] actually ‘cause it was on fire… the bottom floors of the building were on fire and… we heard this sound that sounded like a clap of thunder… turned around -- we were shocked to see that the building was ah well it looked like there was a shockwave ripping through the building and the windows all busted out… it was horrifying… about a second later the bottom floor caved out and the building followed after that… we saw the building crash down all the way to the ground… we were in shock."
Live report 1010 WINS NYC News Radio with an emergency worker (you can hear this testimony in the movie linked in my signature)

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did -- and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I don't know what the fear is coming out and talking about it? I don't know -- but it's the truth."
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"I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn't see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any... I didn't hear any creaking, or... I didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming 'get away, get away, get away from it!'... It was at that moment... I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself... Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit's hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they're saying... Nothing to account for what we saw... I am shocked at the story we've heard about it to be quite honest."
NYPD officer Craig Bartmer link

Please watch my movie: WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11

and no evidence of such blasts on the steel was found?

Did FEMA test for explosives residue? Did NIST test any steel from WTC7 at all?

The answer to both questions is: no.

Please watch my movie: WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11

Don't you find it absurd that all the physical evidence of the third-worst building disaster in human history was *destroyed* before NIST even started its "investigation" (NIST: "no steel was recovered from WTC 7")?

"Being the only such building in history in which fire is blamed for total collapse, Building 7's remains warranted the most painstaking examination, documentation, and analysis.

Building 7's rubble pile was at least as important as any archeological dig. It contained all the clues to one of the largest structural failures in history. Without understanding the cause of the collapse, all skyscrapers become suspect, with profound implications for the safety of occupants and for the ethics of sending emergency personnel into burning buildings to save people and fight fires.

There was no legitimate reason not to dismantle the rubble pile carefully, documenting the position of each piece of steel and moving it to a warehouse for further study. No one was thought buried in the pile, since, unlike the Twin Towers, Building 7 had been evacuated hours before the collapse. The pile was so well confined to the building's footprint that the adjacent streets could have been cleared without disturbing it. "

http://www.wtc7.net/steeldisposal.html

And how do you explain the total lack of structural resistance in the destruction of WTC 7? It had 83 steel columns, yet the building came down in the same time that an object dropped from its roof would have taken to hit the ground. How could a 174-meter-tall building collapse as if there was just air between its roof and the ground? Where did all the resistance suddenly disappear?

Judging from this figure

NIST knew very well were the damage was located.

The question remains, why they have not shown any pictures of this damage. Earlier in this thread you say that there are more pictures showing this damage. I have never seen them. Care to supply a link?

I was really surprised when i saw the footage. I knew the NIST figure, but had never thought that it should be interpreted so literally. Indeed the gash runs from floor 19 up to 47 in a straight line.

NIST has pictures of the gash, otherwise they would not have produced that diagram. Why have they never shown them? Perhaps because no one (except the hard core conspiracy deniers) would believe that such a hole could be caused by a piece of falling debris.

Please watch my movie: WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11

... That is a BAD joke !!!

You say...

That's the thing to do when you think you've got something that may be of interest to the investigators, isn't it? Share it?

We say...

2. Immediate release of 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage held by NIST, largely from private photographers, regarding the collapses of WTC buildings on 9/11/2001 (NIST, 2005, p. 81). In particular, all footage relating to the collapse of WTC 7 (including shots before, during and after the collapse) must be released immediately, without waiting for the NIST report on WTC 7, which is long overdue and may be prolonged indefinitely.

Makes sense, don't it.