Debra Medina, Texas Republican Gubernatorial Candidate, Questions 9/11 and then Backs Off Under Pressure
We have all seen it before. We have seen it with the two "Vans" - Van Romero and Van Jones. After openly questioning the official story, they then "recant."
This story is currently on the front page of Google News with many outlets covering it.
In a nutshell: Debra Medina has apparently questioned 9/11 before, and Glenn Beck knew about it. He confronted Medina about it on his radio show.
From the CS Monitor:
So Beck asked her straight up: "Do you believe the government was in any way involved in the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?"
Easy answer, right? Nope.
"I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard," Medina replied. "There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there, so I have not taken a position on that."
That answer caused a stir in the studio. Beck quickly followed up by asking her if she would disavow any of her staff if they were "9/11 truthers."
"Well, you know, that's a federal issue. We're very focused on issues in Texas, on Texas state government," she said. "I'm certainly not into mind control or thought policing people. "We've got a very diverse team in this state and that's because Texans are standing shoulder to shoulder to support and defend the Constitution. I frankly don't have time, you know, to go through and do psychological testing on people and know every thought or detail that they have."
After the U.S. empire's foot soldier thought police were swift to run with this and declare that her candidacy will be shot to hell in a handbasket unless she recants, Medina realized the "error" of her ways in questioning the orthodox version of history, and she issued this statement:
"I was asked a question on the Glenn Beck show today regarding my thoughts on the so-called 9/11 truth movement. I have never been involved with the 9/11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way. No one can deny that the events on 9/11 were a tragedy for all Americans and especially those families who lost loved ones."
The cowardice.
Why can't there be more people like Paul Craig Roberts, Cynthia McKinney, Karen Johnson, and Yushika Fujita?
Why do some people shake in their shoes and lose all sense of integrity when confronted by the Glenn Beck thugs of the world?
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Here is the source
linking back to her statement which I forgot to hyperlink in the blog entry; her campaign home page.
This story is one of the top stories on Google News today, with many MSM outlets covering it.
He makes one good point.
Glenn Beck, "If you believe the US government blew up the World Trade Center there should be no other higher priority."
This is true. We should take his advice in this case. How many of us do?
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"The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth."
- Aldous Huxley -
I have made 9/11 truth my no. 1 priority...
...and indeed it has consumed so much time and energy that other aspects of my life have diminished in quality. Unlike Dr. Griffin, I am not retired and financially secure. I'm still a "starving artist" musician who, if I had poured the energy I've poured into 9/11 truth the past 5 years into landing a better job, I probably would have quite a lucrative gig in a great orchestra or other group by now.
The optimist in me says that the attention to 9/11 that the 10th anniversary will bring will make the truth dam truly burst. But the pessimist in me says that if it doesn't happen by then, it likely never will.
Some may consider this off topic - but I am offering it anyway
"To penetrate into the essence of all being and significance and to release the fragrance of that inner attainment for the guidance and benefit of others, by expressing, in the world of forms, truth, love, purity and beauty—this is the sole game which has intrinsic and absolute worth. All other happenings, incidents and attainments in themselves can have no lasting importance." Meher Baba
Just because questioning 9/11 isn't
isn't the most politically healthy thing to do, does not mean that Glen Beck is in any way justified in his ridicule of those individuals who question 9/11 for very blatant and OBVIOUS reasons. It does not make him right to simply begin with the assumption that all 9/11 truthers must be crazy because the government of the USA would never be involved in an attack on its own citizenry, to create a pretext to waging pre-emptive wars.
Glenn Beck, this is THE issue of our times and of modern history, whereby we are STILL mired in two wars, and this whole FIASCO has almost broken the back of the USA, brought the empire, to it's knees.
Oh and the questions - those must be addressed, in a rational and scientific manner - one cannot begin with only one presupposition and assume that anything other than that conclusion, and historical narrative, cannot be believed, simply because it's not politically expediant to do so. Since when does politics dictate reality?
Thought police.. I think she handled herself well and that Glenn Beck just made a fool out of himself, as usual.
His entire premise is flawed, and future generations, looking back, will come to recognize the "9/11 Truthers" as the first real patriots of the 21st century.
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On the 11th day, of every month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q9nRs8cu5Y&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthaction...
But let him obssess about us and our movement
as much as possible, so that he ultimately gets pulled into an actual debate on the issues raised.
Bring it on Glenn Beck, because that is a debate we wish to engage you in, and we will, and you will lose that debate. Bring it on buddy, we welcome it, because whenever we come under attack, we win, it's always the same, and it just keeps on happening, time and again, but with your help Glenn Beck, we'll get to fully HALF the American population in no time, so that history can begin to straighten itself out, and therefore serve as an actual learning process.
Dedication to truth and reality, is a discipline of love. Maybe you should go back to your AA meetings and clean the wax out of your ears and plug some cotton batton in your mouth, and LISTEN.
You've been exposed also to the information of the 9/11 truthers and we know you know damn well that we have legitamet questions which DEMAND answers, and that our observations, like those of the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, now numbering over 1000 professionals, are entirely valid.
Like O'Reilly you are somehow terrified by us and our movement.
Bring it on buddy, bring it on.
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On the 11th day, of every month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q9nRs8cu5Y&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthaction...
You guys need to hit the comments section
of the various articles on this subject! In the coming weeks PLENTY of people who consider themselves mainstream are going to be reading about Debra Medina. We need to reach them as best we can. I think one way is to explain why anyone would embrace 9/11 truth ideas.
Here's a recent comment that I made under the article found at http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/state/stories/...
Okay, people. Let me educate you a bit on at least one issue surrounding Debra Medina's statement about the American people not having not seen all the evidence related to 9/11.
On 9/11, while then-President George W. Bush was reading My Pet Goat to a crowded room of school children at Booker Elementary, he was warned by one of his aides that the nation was under attack. He did not leave the room or alter his behaviour in any way. And although he was scheduled to be there months in advance, the Secret Service did not even attempt to whisk him away to safety. So the main question here is, why not? Neither the president nor the Secret Service agents present would have acted so incompetently -- putting the lives of innocent school children in mortal danger -- unless they knew confidently, in advance, that the elementary school was not a target.
This is just ONE of MANY mysteries at the heart of the "inside job" controversy -- and this does not even cover the physics or chemical evidence related to the collapse of WTC 1,2 & 7. Unless you are pathetically blinded by party loyalty, I'm sure you'll agree that the above inquiry (originally made by the 9/11 families which ultimately remains unanswered) is a good one. Rest assured, there are many more.
An interesting observation in Texas area blogs about this...
On many local Texas blogs which I visit there are people who definitely support the government's story about 9/11. Many of these people support Medina. It is interesting to hear these anti-truthers defend Medina, defend the right to have an opinion about 9/11, and also deride Glen Beck, saying things like: "...9/11 isn't the issue here. So what if Medina or others have an opinion about 9/11! That is their right. Yeah, I'm not too happy with Glenn right now. I know he's a Perry supporter, but the question, the way it was posed and his reaction afterwards was really out of line. Disappointed."
Lowest of the lowest of the low
That creeps like Beck should be floating around cyberspace is one thing, but he actually has a big audience on nationally syndicated television. People WILLINGLY watch him without their eyelids pasted to their foreheads Clockwork Orange style. Think about that. There are actually hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Americans who embrace this little weasel of their own volition, watch his adverts, pay his rent. To think of the IQ it takes to find Beck entertaining, stimulating, worthy of one's time, the mind boggles.
And to make matters even worse
if that were even possible - he KNOWS he's a total weasel and includes that in his schtick, and that is what makes him appear somewhat authentic, and helps draw these people in, who are themselves weasels, and so he makes them feel better, because he speaks for weasels everywhere! He's a clown, and he knows it. Rational people think he's a tad mentally ill and unworthy of serious consideration, thank God.
The USA has become a circus, and Glenn Beck is one of the clowns at center stage. He's like the geek version of Bill O'Reilly!
But yes, it's a disgrace. I once knew a person who liked watching Beck, and quess what? Yep, weasel.
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On the 11th day, of every month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q9nRs8cu5Y&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthaction...
If Glen Beck's drivel
truly represents mainstream American concept of the world, is it any wonder the country is going down the gurgler?
The truth about 9/11 is clearly the most important issue facing US and the world today ... the fact that it is an officially taboo subject, a thought-crime punishable by ridicule, abuse and character assassination, reveals the shocking extent of moral and intellectual decay, the putrid corruption at the core of contemporary society.
Here's a transcript of the interview
Source: http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/36197/
February 11, 2010 - 13:54 ET
Debra Medina
GLENN: I want to talk to you about your state elections for a second. I've got calls. I get hammered every single day from all sides. This has not been a friend nor has it ever been a show that has friends. We don't have any friends. I mean, I still have some friends, but we don't and that is because we don't pull any punches, we don't we're not out to make friends. We're here to tell the truth. And sometimes people are good, sometimes people are bad. I don't ever endorse anybody, nor do I want to. I'll tell you what I think about individuals but I don't endorse them. I don't lend my credibility to anybody. I struggle to keep my credibility with myself. For instance, Jim DeMint, I like the guy. I think he's the real deal. Could Jim DeMint would I like to recommend that we never let Jim DeMint go to Argentina? Yeah, yeah. Do I think he's going to be, you know, do you think he's got some babe on the side in Argentina? No. But I didn't think Sanford did, either! I mean, you don't know the heart of an individual. The way you can judge them is really through their record.
Now, we've got a lot of people coming up out of the out of nowhere that have no record at all. So now what do you do? How do you judge these people? For instance, in Texas Rick Perry who's always been kind to me, always been nice, I think I've been the same to him, I think I've been fair, he's been fair with me. The things that I have witnessed firsthand on Rick Perry I like. For instance, we were standing backstage and at one point we were talking about the guy, you know, the guy who's getting the death penalty. What was the guy's name that killed all those people in Houston, the illegal immigrant, Pat?
PAT: There's several. Are you talking about Angel what's his face?
GLENN: Yeah, got the death penalty, Bush tried to push it off. And Rick Perry said to me, "I'll throw the switch myself. He is going to die." And I loved him for that.
PAT: And he did.
GLENN: Right.
PAT: He did.
GLENN: He's bad on the border. You know, I think he talks out of both sides of his mouth on that. However, he's great right now talking about the Tenth Amendment. States rights. I want to believe that he's right on that, that he would do it. But you are in a campaign, so you don't know. Now we have somebody who had 4% of the vote, has no money for ad campaigns and now she's up to in three, four weeks she's up to 24%? I know Kay Bailey Hutchison, forget about it. That's just, I'm sure she's a very nice lady. I've had her on the show before. I just, I'm not impressed with her at all. And again I don't mean anything about her personally, I just don't think she's the answer for Texas. So I guess for me it would be between Debra and Rick. Wanted to get Debra on the phone because I don't know anything about her.
Welcome to the program, Debra Medina. How are you?
MEDINA: Great. Good to be with you, Glenn.
GLENN: Tell me a little bit about yourself because, you know, the tea party people, they are coming out of the woodwork. People are just popping up, and I think that's good but it's also a little dangerous because we don't know anything about you. Tell me who you are.
MEDINA: Registered Nurse, long time Republican Party grassroots activist from South Texas, entered the gubernatorial race a year ago today, which was before the first tea parties because I saw neither Kay Hutchison or Rick Perry bringing conservative constitutional government to our state. Had been watching both of them in office for a long time and I've got to take issue with you saying the governor's strong on states rights. He has said we're not going to nullify, we're not going to interpose. He hasn't done anything to stop the federal government as it steps time and time again outside the Constitution. He's been in office for nine years. And even in the first debate when he was specifically asked whether or not he would stand to stop healthcare, he declined to do that. We're looking to see what's going to happen. All of America knows there's no constitutional basis for nationalizing healthcare. He's singing a song for the campaign and I think most of Texas sees that. I've been very gratified to have people from all over the state standing shoulder to shoulder with me. That's how we take back our country and that's what's happening here in Texas.
GLENN: Okay. The question was tell me about you. Who are you?
MEDINA: Registered Nurse, grassroots activist, 20 years in Republican Party, grassroots politics from south Texas, businesswoman, wife, mother, rancher, farmer, grew up on a farm, learned the value of hard work early, married, two kids.
GLENN: What did you you say small business person. What did you do in small business?
CALLER: I'm a Registered Nurse. I worked in and around corporate healthcare since 1984, private for profit healthcare. I opened a small business in Wharton which is a town of about 12,000 people just southwest of Houston, Texas. I do medical billing and consulting for a living. My clients are physicians and ambulance services, insurance companies and attorneys looking at the pricing, revenue, payment of healthcare as well as quality issues. So still actively practicing Registered Nurse in the State of Texas.
GLENN: Why is your what are your policies? I mean, what do you say, this is what we've got to do right now?
MEDINA: Oh, I say that we've got to understand first what protects freedom and what destroys it. And I believe that the two essential elements of freedom are private property ownership and gun ownership. They are as essential to freedom as air and water are to life. We don't own our property in Texas. We've got one of the highest property tax rates in the country and we've had tremendous abuse of eminent domain under Governor Perry's leadership. I'm sure you've heard about the trans Texas corridor, the NAFTA superhighway, but there's others. There's lots of disrespect and disregard. I think even the border, the immigration issue, the illegal immigration issue bubbles up into private property rights. That land along the Texas border is someone's farm or ranch. It is private property. And you cannot trespass on someone else's property. Come through the gate, the legal port of entry. So we've got to restore private property ownership in Texas. We need to eliminate property taxes here.
GLENN: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
MEDINA: That's been the cornerstone of this campaign and then we can get into talking about all the things we're going to do to reestablish a proper relationship between a sovereign state and a limited federal government.
GLENN: Okay. Debra, help me out. You don't have any income tax in Texas.
MEDINA: Correct.
GLENN: So if you are going to reduce the property tax or eliminate the property tax, what are you replacing it with?
MEDINA: You are going to find the government with the thing that is the best model of funding government. That's a consumption or a sales tax. It is the tax that creates the least amount of drag on the economy. It's the tax that is most fair and most easily borne by the citizens. So we need legislation in Texas that will rescind the authority to levy a property tax and create or broaden the authority to raise the necessary revenue. I'm all about cutting spending, but I know people get very nervous when you talk about changing funding structures and mechanisms. Even in Texas when you look at eliminating property tax and doing a revenue neutral, getting the same dollars out of a sales tax, we will see a $3 billion increase in net personal income and add 150,000 real jobs to the Texas economy.
GLENN: What kind of sales tax
MEDINA: They have talked about the new jobs and the great jobs situation that we have in Texas, but the reality is we have lost 14,000 jobs in the private sector in Texas. We have added 156,000 government sector jobs. Our job growth has come entirely in the government sector. 14,000 few private sector employees supporting 156,000 more government sector employees. That's not a healthy economy in any free society. Get property tax eliminated, do revenue neutral sales tax, and you will see 150,000 new jobs, $3 billion net personal income increase in the first year.
GLENN: I have when I said that I was going to have you on, you can't imagine the mail pro and con that I received. There was a theme that ran against you and that is you are a 9/11 Truther.
MEDINA: Well, there's lots of mud that people would like to throw at Debra Medina and make stick. The truth is I'm an everyday ordinary person. I am fighting for the things that our founders fought for, those very basic principles of a constitutional republic, and I'm going to champion people that hold their government accountable, hold me accountable but that's the first time I've heard that accusation. So that's an interesting one.
GLENN: Right. Here's then let me be more frank and ask you the question: Do you believe the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?
MEDINA: I don't, I don't have all of the evidence there, Glenn. So I don't I'm not in a place, I have not been out publicly questioning that. I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard. There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there. So I've not taken a position on that.
GLENN: I think the people of America might think that might be a yes.
MEDINA: Well
GLENN: Do you have advisors, do you have advisor
MEDINA: I'm not going to take a position.
GLENN: That's fine.
MEDINA: These questions have been raised and they are not answered.
GLENN: Do you have advisors that advise you or people that are around you that are 9/11 Truthers?
MEDINA: Not to my knowledge.
GLENN: Would you, if you found out that there were, would you disavow them like the president should have but I mean, he escorted them out in the middle of the night. Van Jones was a 9/11 Truther. If you found out that people around you are advising you were 9/11 Truthers, would you disavow them or allow them to continue to advise you?
MEDINA: Well, you know, that's a federal issue. We're very focused on issues in Texas, on Texas state government. I'm certainly not into mind control or thought policing people.
GLENN: No, that's a pretty big one.
MEDINA: We've got a very diverse team in this state and that's because Texans are standing shoulder to shoulder to support and defend the Constitution. I frankly don't have time, you know, to go through and do psychological testing on people and know every thought or detail that they have.
GLENN: No, I don't think it's psychological at all.
MEDINA: I don't see us having a team of radical individuals, if you will. I think that there are certainly some that are looking, trying to use scare tactics. I you know, are there people?
GLENN: No, I don't think they're scare tactics. Debra, you've answered the question.
MEDINA: Yeah, are there people that have tried to come and be a part of our team
GLENN: Right.
MEDINA: that have not gotten on the team? Absolutely there are. But I can't
GLENN: Yeah, I understand. Debra, you've answered the question.
MEDINA: You know, I don't know. That's so out of context, it's difficult for me to answer.
GLENN: There's
MEDINA: I think it would depend on, you know, how vocal they were about that and how much I thought it colored whatever other talent they brought to the table.
GLENN: Yeah. Okay, Debra, thank you very much. I appreciate it and best of luck to you.
MEDINA: Thank you, Glenn.
GLENN: You bet. Bye bye. I think
PAT: Problematic?
GLENN: While I don't endorse anyone
PAT: Problematic?
GLENN: I think I can write her off the list. Let me take another look at Kay Bailey Hutchison if I have to. Rick, I think you and I could French kiss right now.
PAT: Let me tell you something. He's a damn handsome man.
GLENN: He's a damn handsome man.
PAT: Looks good in a pair of jeans.
GLENN: Wow.
PAT: He's a handsome man.
GLENN: Wow. The fastest way back to 4%.
STU: (Laughing).
GLENN: Holy cow.
PAT: I mean, and we're going to I'm going to hear from people in Texas. How can you take her we just asked the question!
GLENN: Asked the question.
PAT: Because we got all the rumors, I expected her to say oh, absolutely not.
STU: Even if you are a Truther, there's an easy answer to that
PAT: That is not what she said.
STU: which is of course not; what are you talking
PAT: Absolutely not, I am not a 9/11 Truther.
GLENN: I mean, but at least give her credit.
STU: Give her credit, she told the truth.
GLENN: Give her credit for telling the truth.
PAT: She didn't lie. Yeah, she didn't lie.
GLENN: But you know what? If you believe the United States government blew up the World Trade Center, there should be no other higher priority, no other higher priority.
PAT: And I don't want to hear from you if you are a 9/11 Truther on her side.
GLENN: Yeah.
PAT: Save your e mails.
Vote For Answers New Hampshire
It's now official. At least ten towns in N.H. will have the following question on the ballot.
http://voteforanswersnh.com
Somebody post this story please. Leftwright--- did you get the NYC CAN email, "Vote For Answers New Hamphsire."? Please post as front page.
That website
is looking really good. Among many things that impressed me was this statement from the former mayor of Keene:
'So long as our policies continue to be based on those tragic events, it will never be too late for honest answers to reasonable questions that to this day go unanswered.'
It's great when we find people--especially people who've held public office--who demonstrate that they share at least some of the basic understandings of 9/11 truth activists without having been openly a 'part of' the truth movement.
I just sent her a note of
I just sent her a note of support and being from Texas, I'll also get a chance to vote for someone I can truly believe in.
I too am from Texas. I will vote for Medina.
One thing is for certain in Texas. No "9/11 Truther" will ever vote for Perry nor Hutchinson, because they are corporate puppets.
The Texas Montlhy polls show that Debra Medina is steamrolling towards the Texas governorship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcoiHkps_0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GIVZsqz_cU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gHZNcuHhwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k3MM3P1YnY
9/11 Truth scares the powers that be.
A huge number of people who are aware of Ron Paul, Medina, the New World Order, The Federal Reserve, the corporatocracy, the Peace Movement, etc. are also aware of 9/11.
The problem which the corporate media has is that 9/11 Truth is the most important issue of our time.
It is the key which opens the door.
Glen Beck, Palin, Obama, mainstream media, the government, etc. will lose their source of power to the degree that it becomes acceptable to question 9/11.
In a way, there is an advantage of Glenn Beck bringing up 9/11. It puts focus on the issue of 9/11.
Corporate media trying to demonize 9/11 Truth is a statement of how powerfully important this issue is.
Still true..
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
Re: 9/11 Truth scares TPTB
Glenn Beck ... You can't HANDLE the 9/11 Truth!
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
I commented in the Dallas Morning News....
I used my real name ROB WRINKLE.
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/02/debra-medi...
Keep banging the drum
Today it may be political suicide to discuss the 9/11 issue, but regardless we must continue to raise the issue because tomorrow it may be illegal to discuss it. We still have free speech, let's use it while we got it. Nothing is more important in this time in history.