Michael Shermer: "9/11 Truthers Foiled by 12/25 Attack"
9/11 Truthers Foiled by 12/25 Attack
Hey 9/11 Truthers, CNN is reporting that al Qaeda just took credit for the Northwest Airlines terrorist attack:
“Be prepared to suffer because the killing is coming and we prepared you men who love death just as you love life and by God’s permission, we will come to you with more things that you have never seen before. Because, as you kill, you will be killed and tomorrow is coming soon. The martyrdom brother was able to reach his objective with the grace of God but due to a technical fault, the full explosion did not take place.”
—al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
Still think that al Qaeda did not orchestrate 9/11? Still think this is all an “inside job” by the Bush administration? Just who do you think Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab worked for? George Bush? Abdulmutallab’s own father ratted him out after he was radicalized by Muslim extremists—was that all part of the “inside job” as well? What was that sewn up in his underwear, the same superthermite that Bush operatives used to bring down the World Trade Center buildings with planted explosive devices?
Will someone from the 9/11 Truth camp please wake up and accept the fact that when al Qaeda takes credit for 9/11, says that they would do it again, and then tries, we should take them at their word.
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The Propaganda is sickening.
Once you see through the facade, it is so easy to spot the BS.
Hey Mr. Shermer
we should take them at their word.
I murdered Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman. Please take me at my word.
And given that my name is Syed*, I know you will.
*Syed = typical name for an eeevil Islamic terrorist.
Exactly... What's the facade?
The Facade= Al Queda= Fraud.
For all intents and purposes, Al Queda doesn't exist. Whatever measly shell it has
is held together by 'western' finance/intelligence; the rest is pure propaganda; and because
so many people actually believe what they see and hear on T.V., it passes for fact.
Fact: Al Queda is a construct of U.S. Intelligence: originally financed and trained by the C.I.A.,
to kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan, then to undermine Soviet control in 'the Stans'; then
to help de-stabilize Yugoslavia.
'Al Queda' has since been thoroughly penetrated by western intelligence.
If 'Al Queda' does something that directly impacts the American landscape, you can be sure
the hand of 'intelligence' is all over it, guiding it for proper propaganda effect.
Look at the Evidence... Madrid, London, Bali.... The Shoe Bomber... please...
If 'Al Queda' does something else, like fighting Empire Inc. in the land of the Vassal-Kings (like Saudi Arabia) then it's a resistance that the teleprompters simply TELL us is 'Al Queda.'
It's clear: 'Al Queda's a sham, a ghost, a mirage, a 'fabled enemy.'
EVERYTIME we hear about some "Al Queda" operative, communique, etc.
we must ask the simple question: Is this merely a C.I.A (or other) asset planting
stories, striking fear, pumpin n' pimpin' the pure propaganda?
Al Queda in Iraq, Al Queda in the _____ Pennisula, Al Queda in Venezuela,....
They should start their own soccer league.
For the vast majority of those guerillas/insurgents resisting Empire Inc.,
they have no idea what an 'Al Queda' is, and they don't care.
It's got nothing to do with them.
And I'm sure most of the world's people know that 'Al Queda' is a front.
But we Americans....
taking DUMB to a whole other level.
Still, the more these vultures and vampires continue with the obvious propaganda,
the more pissed off and awake we who have educated ourselves are going to become.
So bring it on....
Exactly!
You nailed it Andreyo!
Totally agree Andreyo...
This Shermer piece made me laugh because "Al Qaeda" can't even bomb one airplane but we are to believe they were able to orchestrate the highly complex attacks of 9/11.
Shermer also fails to mention that at first Bin Laden DENIED being involved in the 9/11 attacks not once, but twice.
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government." -The Declaration of Independence
SHERMER: NOT WORTH THE TYPING TIME!
Shermer has carved out a career for himself denying the existence of gravity and sunlight.
Good for him.
Our time would be much better spent informing the uninformed about 9/11, than getting upset about Shermer. This would be the best revenge.
Give away a DVD, e-mail a link, recommend a DRG book.
Who Is Al Qaeda?
Arabic al-qā'ida, al-, the + qā'ida: 1.) Decade old video of unidentified men swinging from monkey bars in the desert. 2.) An internet entity from parts unknown who claims responsibility for everything.
AMEN Aidan
I'm prepping 1,000+ DVDs for TWO upcoming MLK Parades in my town.
If Not Me? Who? If Not Now? When?
http://www.northtexas911truth.com/
Excellent
This growing cause owes it's success entirely people who take the time to inform others.
It must qualify as one of the greatest grassroots information campaigns ever.
We get no help from the regular media.
yes... but...
... sadly... the process is also easy to usurp and corrupt. Since this is essentially a grassroots underground railroad of information - it is relatively easy to insert disinformation into the flow. Rumors and urband legends easily get picked up - gain wings - and get carried far and wide.
Rumors and opinions get repeated as fact - and facts themselves get burried in a blizzard of disinformation.
so - sadly - the very thing we cling to as the 'cure' - in many cases serves up poison pills to the uninitiated.
a TRUTH movement without a facts filter? how can that possibly work?
in the 6 years i've been in this TRUTH movement i am yet to see that elephant in the room addressed.
"We need to move beyond conspiracy theories and slogans - and return to our roots. 9/11 Truth is no less than a constitution battle to ensure our rights as citizens to demand full and honest answers from our appointed representatives in Washington." JA
I agree John, and...
I would add,
that facts and information alone are not enough.
IMHO, the issue of 9/11 is important for the way it penetrates to the core question of 'power' in our society; but the change needed now is a whole one. Our WHOLE society needs a fundamental change; and it can't happen through words on a computer screen alone.
If we place our complete faith here, we'll be sorely disappointed.
We need to organize at the local, community levels. We need to build links with people at different points on the political-ideological spectrum, and so on.
We also need to know who our immediate allies are, those with whom we can speak directly and clearly, as opposed to those who require a lot of documentation.
We need to take care, that we not get lost in the vast, black hole of endless information.
And it's such a pleasure talking with you folks, for real and straight up.
Skeptical about the Skeptic
Shermer's "Skeptic magazine" is a front for the world's moneyied interests. His alternative health debunking columnists (Example: Harriet Hall) are the "expert witnesses" used by the state medical boards to prosecute all manner of alternative health care practitioners who are causing no harm (including economic) in order to protect the marketshare of MDs and other licensed health care providers. These self-proclaimed "experts" are also members/board members of Quackwatch, another big Pharma/Medical industrial complex tool, charged with prosecuting and persecuting all manner of alternative health practitioners and alternative modes of treatment (ex: herbs).
Thus, it does not surprise me that he has been given the instructions to spew the OCT propaganda.
What's Schermer Got Sewn Up In His Underwear?
I’m trying to figure out who the bigger loser is, Abulmuttallab or Shermer? Maybe we should go spend a couple more billion dollars on “some kind of security” since another al-Qaeda loser could not figure out how to light a bomb that he must have bought at an “al-Qaeda R Us” outlet store. I also have a hard time figuring out who is worse, the friggin moron who lit himself on fire, or the incompetent and negligent US intelligence officials who knew Abulmuttallab’s potential links with al-Qaeda but failed to put him on the terrorist no-fly list.
If Obama had half a brain and wants to prevent another false flag terrorist attack against America, all he needs to do is hold those responsible for “any” intelligence screw-ups, including this one. He needs to tell the intelligence agencies that individuals responsible for such failures will be investigated and penalized to the fullest extent of the law, and heads will friggin roll this time instead of being promoted like many of the intelligence officers who were responsible for the 9/11 failures (to this date, not one single person or institution has been held accountable for the many many many 9/11 failures).
Nobody is saying that al-Qaeda is not a threat, what they’re saying is that an organization that is down to a couple hundred people is probably not worth two wars and couple of hundred billion dollars per year. The overwhelming majority of Truthers do not even deny that al-Qaeda was involved in the 9/11 attacks, they just know that other parties were also involved and that the al-Qaeda operatives were utilized primarily as patsies in the operation.
What people want to know is to what extent was al-Qaeda still being used in the run-up to 9/11 as confirmed by FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds (http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/). People also want to know what the hell a Jewish kid from Orange County is doing as al-Qaeda's spokesman and current #3 (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2169943&page=1)? Like the article says, first Pearlman turned to heavy metal music and then to Islam (this is such a typical career path for many jihadists, we probably need to abolish heavy metal). Maybe Mr. Shermer could help us with that little bit of irony while he tells us that the al-Qeada boogeyman is out of the bag once again.
Hey Idiot...
Our invasions in that region, which include Afghanistan, Iraq, and the drone bombings of Pakistan that have resulted in incalcuable deaths, not to mention the recent bombing of Yemen, might have actually caused people to dislike America and take action.
Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.
maybe if we ocupied more of
maybe if we ocupied more of there land we would be safer?
maybe if we raped more of there women they would not hate us anymore?
Maybe if we arrested more of there inocent men and tortured them we wouldnt have them trying to kill us?
Maybe, just maybe if we investigated 911 before we strike another arab country we would be safer.
9/11 controlled demolition, per irrefutable evidence, inside job
Mr. Michael Shermer,
1. What "CNN reports" is very much just another inside job, propaganda. .. I have not seen them report scientific facts and evidence about 9/11. Have you??
2. al Qaeda, confused as every other American, will take credit for anything they like , especially for anti-American terrorist attempts, because they resent occupations, aggressions, colonization of their Arab lands by US and western Christians, started during never elected pr Bush.
Let me explain - al Qaeda probably even to this day doesn't know that they have been had, aided - that secret entities have their 9/11 not only allowed, but also made it happen real good. This per irrefutable scientific evidence by now, too.
The big factor in stirring terrorist anger and actions is US remote UAV airplanes bombing and killing people on the ground in occupied countries, Afghanistan and also Pakistan. This foments terrorism well. Just as any occupations, wars.
Detroit failed bomber was inside let it happen operation too - but a good one - nobody was killed, they set it up so bomb did not explode.
See http://krunchd.com/inside, and better http://WorldNewsRecord.wordpress.com
What is "foiled by 12-25-09" inside fail bombing attack is peace, a chance for peace, and 9/11
Truth.
In fact, NOT revealing and investigating 9/11 Truth controlled demolition inside operation pretext to war is leaving the same forces in place, might bring more pretexts for wars inside covert ops. ...
http://friendfeed.com/petrbuben for summary news
http://911investigate.blogspot.com
in same tone,France is putting forward to gouvern.change in Iran
John A MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE
bonsoir ,
and in the same tone, France is putting forward to gouvernement change in Iran. The propaganda is much more effiecient than in 1953
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20321
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20502
When are we going to learn our history ?
SuperPower is Super long to view but excellent.
http://www.911blogger.com/node/22238
Yours
John
super power
i agree, i watched it over 2 days but was well worth it.
If you havent watched it, take the time.
Thanks, I submitted that.
If Not Me? Who? If Not Now? When?
http://www.northtexas911truth.com/
"Superpower" makes Michael Shermer look like a redneck
"Superpower" is not a "9/11 Truth Film", but it acts as an excellent bridge towards understanding how sinister our government really is. If people grasp 50% of the film, they might take a second look at 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxYvedENt1U
Foiled?
How did 1 guy stop this guy with a bomb?
and yet 4 planes full of people couldnt stop these hijackers, one piloit was a pro boxer?
And you cant use the box cutters as a means, thats been retracted by the cia. the one phone call that mentioned box cutters never happened. they admitted it was faked.
the plane over penn, is becomeing the loaded gun and everyone knows it, the cockpit doors where never opened, and now with the trials in NY. there having to admit that it was shot down.
So that means they lied to all those familiy members and the public that they were heros and brought the plane down.
After how many lies do we start to believe what there saying? I find it hard to believe that this guy wasnt another patsy like bin laden.
And Al qaeda never took credit for 911, Bin laden came out three days later and said he didnt have anything to do with it. then they came out and said they would hand him over if we could show any proof he was involved.
They still havent been able to that to this day. Hes not wanted for 911. No one is because we never investigated it
Who retracted what?
Who admitted what was fake? Who admitted what was shot down?
Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.
LOL
"We need to move beyond conspiracy theories and slogans - and return to our roots. 9/11 Truth is no less than a constitution battle to ensure our rights as citizens to demand full and honest answers from our appointed representatives in Washington." JA
Well, for one thing...
Who admitted what was shot down?
Did he "admit it..."
Adam or did he simply have a "Freudian Slip" or misspeak?
I don't recall Donald Rumsfeld saying "I admit it... we shot down Flight 93 on 9/11, and then lied about it afterwards."
That video is NOT an "admission," and I think it's sad that you're portraying it as such.
Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.
"Freudian Slip"
Freudian slip
–noun
(in Freudian psychology) an inadvertent mistake in speech or writing that is thought to reveal a person's unconscious motives, wishes, or attitudes.
In other words...the unconscious slips up and speaks the truth.
Exactly.
Freudian slips reveal what a person is really thinking. It's deeper than simply telling someone to turn right when they really mean left.
A while back, I left someone a voice mail with my phone number. The last digit was a 6 and I accidentally said "sex." The Freudian Slip revealed the truth of what was on my mind at that moment.
(Incidentally, the 2nd to last number was a 2, so "blah blah blah blah blah to sex." :D )
Did the number end with
Did the number end with "...one two one two six"?
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
It may be the truth...
But it's not an "admission."
Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.
Witness Says Sharp-Dressed Man Aided Terror Suspect
Witness Says Sharp-Dressed Man Aided Terror Suspect
by burghnews
Witness Says Sharp-Dressed Man Aided Terror Suspect
by burghnews
I found this video at Family Security Matters, a Neo-con Rt Wing Fear site
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/blog/
From CNN Report on "Sharp-Dressed Man" and Videographer
CNN Airs Eyewitness Testimony that ‘Well-Dressed’ Indian accomplice helped Abdulmutallab board without passport and that man on plane filmed entire flight and bombing attempt
more here:
http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-evidence-clearly-indicates-staged-atta...
"...terrorists' exploding underwear (satire)"
This article satire is a good quick read. http://www.naturalnews.com/027825_terrorists_underwear.html
"...A wedgie with a bang....
...This is a serious discussion. There was an attempted assassination of a Middle Eastern prince that happened not long ago. It was even reported in the press. The assassin had somehow managed to shove explosives into his rectum -- I swear I'm not making this up -- and waltzed right through security with it. He then shuffled toward his target, fired off the bomb and subsequently blew his butt cheeks all over the room... without harming anyone else...."
Did terrorist have his legs burnt ? Trousers fire proofed ?
John A MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE
bonjour ,
in fact did the so be terrorist have his legs burnt ? Or was his trousers fire proofed from the inside ? We saw his trousers( at least reported to be) on French TV last night and they did not seem to be badly burn ?
Why go to the pain of fire proofing the trousers if you are going to blow your legs off anyway ?
Yours John
thanks
Thanks for these important video clips, Joe. I hoped you've downloaded them in case they disappear from the internet. I wonder if the well dressed "Indian" man was airport security or undercover police. His behaviour sounds odd for a passenger. And now we have a possibly suspicious guy with a camcorder recording the whole event as well.
No Follow Up
Joe,
Let's see if CNN (and other media) will follow up and go to Amsterdam Airport Schiphol to inquire as to how Abdulmutallab boarded the flight without a passport/visa and who was that well-dressed Indian man escorting Abdulmutallab. Or will the media behave like the FBI did towards the Haskell's...not follow up?
Dean Jackson/Editor-in-Chief DNotice.org
Washington, DC
Half Hour Interview with Kurt Haskell
Detroit attorney Kurt Haskell appeared on the Alex Jones Show today and detailed his experience at the Amsterdam airport and on flight 253. Mr. Haskell provided information not covered by the corporate media.
featured stories Alex Jones Interviews Eye Witness On Flight 253
In addition to a detailed retelling of the story he gave the corporate media, Mr. Haskell addressed the unprofessional and lackadaisical behavior of the FBI and airport security after the plane landed at the Detroit Metro airport in Romulus, Michigan. He characterized their behavior as a “complete embarrassment. They actually put us in more jeopardy than we were already in.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM2yiohmPEI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvQU1AnxOiw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiURjIUnyys
Kurt Haskell (witness) knows about the 9/11 Cover-up...
Kurt Haskell (witness) knows about the 9/11 Cover-up, but would like to keep it low-key. He does not want the credibility of his testimony side-swiped by the 9/11 issue. (One minute 34 seconds into interview)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiURjIUnyys#t=1m34s
No passport?
Haskell says that he overhead a conversation revealing that the "terrorist" had no passport yet was allowed on the plane. CBS national news last night stated that he had a valid passport and a valid US Visa. The powers that be issued that fast!
further explanation to Michael
to your ...... "Just who do you think Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab worked for? George Bush? Abdulmutallab’s own father ratted him out after he was radicalized by Muslim extremists—was that all part of the “inside job” as well?" .........
EXACTLY this is why it is another inside op - Umar was banned from Great Britain as radical/ terror potential, his father TOLD US Embassy in Nigeria that his son is radical Islamist resenting western occupation, so that Cia Fbi Dhs Tsa KNEW .......... yET they let this guy board, enter US, and have bomb on him ----- wHY !! ..... why would they let the guy in on ??
but yes, fun - it was non leathal op -- bravo Cia, im with you on this -do your pretexts, but please - no dead, no killing .... that'd be barbric, maam.
http://worldnewsrecord.wordpress.com
http://krunchd.com/inside
inside ops - 9/11 01, London 05, Oklahoma City 92, Detroit 09 .......
He sure gets around
Good points Petr. For someone who denied a Visa and no passport, he sure gets around. He's been to Yemen. He got from Nigeria to Amsterdam without one. Then onto the U.S. without one. Hmmm and he did this all on his own? Of course not, we know he is getting help. We know about the man in the suit that accompanied him to the boarding gate. Why isn't that man's face all over the news? Did I hear correctly that security at this airport in Amsterdam is run by an Israeli company? Need confirmation on that.
Additionally for Mr Shermer, It would seem that such an well organized and funded as COBRA, or I mean, KAOS, oh oh sorry Al Qaida would be able to construct a better bomb than this. I would be willing to bet it was purposely constructed so poorly that it would fail. The C.I.A doesn't need all of this incidents to be deadly to get the desired effect. In this case I think they are trying to enact policies for profiling and getting full body scanners installed. Those seem to be the immediate talking points being jammed down our necks right after this incident. Just my two cents worth..
together in truth
peace all
dtg
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"It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear."
- Douglas MacArthur
Possible reasons,desired effects - latest Detroit bombing inside
Thanks, good points from you, too.
As you say, reasons might be to introduce new, additional police state security measures and install new equipment to further harass air travelers.
I think further reasons might also be
1. to remind people, to keep population in apprehension, or outright fear, of terror.
2. to get to Pres Obama, to express irritation with his policies, to be able to say - he is not "protecting Americans well enough"
3. some agencies inside political infighting. A palpable friction lately came out between Cia/Dir Panetta and National Intel Council/ Dir Blair
3. simple pretext for further conflict, as Sen Lieberman already called for preemptive strikes on Yemen
4. implied message that the next time, bomb might actually work
5. all of the above
I do think that managers in CIA, FBI, DHS, TSA responsible for this inside operation - letting known radical banned in Britain board a plane with a defective bomb - should be reassigned immediately. Any such consequences never happened after 9/11, as far as I know.
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Memo To Michael Shermer
When will you defenders of he government's (racist) 9/11 conspiracy theories wake up and realize the simple obvious fact that a confession or taking credit for something isn't proof of anything without HARD evidence to back it up.
Here's one for you Shermer; My milkman says he did it. Do you believe him? I mean how gullible are you? How gullible do you think we should be??
what
Sounds like our boy here needs to go back to high school for a physics lesson. Besides we all know that the government would never fabricate evidence or lie about what really happened. There is another way to think about Mr. Abdulmutullab's father's coming forth, for one thing they had his son red-handed, so his father was not preventing anything other than maybe he figured that they would trace Mr. Abdulmutullab to his father anyway, so speaking up may save him from the C.I.A. or whoever from investigating him thoroughly. I mean he is a banker and we all know how well we can trust those people.
I think people in the social sciences like to say
"Relation does not necessarily mean causation."
I had to post Shermer's blog, because he's been such a douche to 9/11 Truth for years, and because his logic (especially for a guy who associates with Skeptic magazine) is so warped.
What makes him think the set of people taking credit for this 12/25 incident have anything to do with the set of people allegedly taking credit for 9/11? They fly the same banner, or so we're told? Why should 12/25 have anything to do with 9/11? It doesn't. It doesn't prove the 9/11 Commission was somehow independent and comprehensive, for example. It doesn't prove that office furniture fires can bring down steel-framed skyscrapers. It doesn't prove that NORAD suddenly told the truth to the 9/11 Commission.
One thing has nothing to do with the other -- except the association made by the perps, the media, or both.
Exactly...
One event has nothing to do with the other... what he just did is the equivalent to saying...
Ok... let's bomb the shit out of these people for 8 years, and when they strike back, then we can say, "I told you so... I told you there was Al-Qaeda..."
Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.
In philosophy is called
the "fallacy of association." Also specious reasoning. Good points, simuvac. Thanks for posting this. Shermer is a supreme douche bag.
9/11 Truthers are not the only ones...
...who question the political expediency of some of these events.
i'm not a particular fan of Justin Raimondo, af Antiwar.com - but he demonstrates that 9/11 Truthers are not the only ones now questioning these events:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/12/27/the-lap-bomber-mystery.
Quote:
We are asked to believe that a highly privileged young man, with everything to live for, was suddenly seized with a desire to commit suicide as an act of jihad: that he disappeared from his life of ease, on a street lined with Mercedes Benzes and Ferraris, in a fashionable district of London, and traveled to Yemen, where he received what may have been a defective bomb, which was sewn into his underwear by his jihadist trainers. This bomb then went undetected in Amsterdam airport, where the security arrangements are said to be tight (and a personal interview is conducted), and where he was let on a plane headed for the US in spite of explicit warnings given by his own father.
I’m not buying it, and, furthermore, in the context of Haskell’s testimony, another narrative seems just as likely: that this was a staged incident, a false flag operation, launched by those who have everything to gain by ramping up the atmosphere of hysteria and fear that regularly precedes America’s wars.
(end quote)
Michael Schemer - perhaps you are painfully woefully sadly out of touch with the growing sentiment of the American public.
But also from Justin Raimondo -
Quote:
Eight years later, our mental processes have been quickened, through bitter experience, and a growing cynicism which leads us to notice – and question – several seeming anomalies, such as: why, when Umar’s own father – a prominent banker – contacted the US embassy, and met with the CIA as well as the Nigerian intelligence agency, and warned them his son might pose a danger, was Umar allowed on a plane entering the US? Authorities tell us that he was in a database, consisting of over half a million people, said to pose a risk, but not on the "no fly" list, in spite of his own father’s warning.
End quote
One is forced to wonder when characters like Michael Schemer will cease employing hyperbole about '9/11 Truthers' - and start asking the legitimate questions we expect from responsible citizens.
"We need to move beyond conspiracy theories and slogans - and return to our roots. 9/11 Truth is no less than a constitution battle to ensure our rights as citizens to demand full and honest answers from our appointed representatives in Washington." JA"We need to move beyond conspiracy theories and slogans - and return to our roots. 9/11 Truth is no less than a constitution battle to ensure our rights as citizens to demand full and honest answers from our appointed representatives in Washington." JA
logical fallacy
One is forced to wonder when characters like Michael Schemer will cease employing hyperbole about '9/11 Truthers' - and start asking the legitimate questions we expect from responsible citizens.
The answer is never.* It is not a question of "when." These people are not innocent skeptics who are simply experiencing deep seated denial. Your assumption that they might be, is the fallacy.
No, people like Shermer and the Popular Mechanics people, imho, know damn well that 9/11 was an inside job and they're getting paid handsome money to defend the OCT.
*The day that the majority of the population realizes 9/11 was a false flag might be the day that these people gingerly concede, and they will blame deep denial as the reason they took so long to come around. In reality, of course, they will "come around" because they know the jig is up.
i'm not assuming anything
don't assume what i assume
"We need to move beyond conspiracy theories and slogans - and return to our roots. 9/11 Truth is no less than a constitution battle to ensure our rights as citizens to demand full and honest answers from our appointed representatives in Washington." JA
Response to Michael Shermer by World911Truth
Read our full response here:
http://world911truth.org/response-to-michael-shermer/
10 excellent questions...
These would be perfect for also posing to "KSM" in a mock trial to generate publicity for 9/11 Truth. If not Charlie, then someone else to play the prosecutor.
If Michael Shermer is so cocky, how about another round of debates against Kevin Ryan?
When does Richard Gage get to sit down
with Shermer?
Now the comment section has been infected.
I just noticed that "Freako Nico" has posted a comment on Shermer's article.
just a murmur from Shermer
2009 goes out with a whimper. He sounds desperate.
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
Just because there's such a thing as
Islamist Extremist Terrorism, does not mean that the twin towers' steel structures defied the laws of physics on September 11th, 2001.
____________________________
On the 11th day, of every month.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q9nRs8cu5Y&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthaction...
Al Qaeda official news
Al Qaeda official news bureau issued a press release taking credit?
And who made the statement?
Show me.
Mr. Shermer,
al Qaeda did work for the US Government. The name means "the database". They are the original database of terrorists the US trained and sent in to defeat the Russian's in the 1980's. Your lack of knowledge is astounding. You preach to the Burger King audience of America. Would you like some freedom fries to go with your amazing analysis? I guess its back to the drawing board.
Obama Is Told of Signs That Should Have Grounded Plot
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1&hp
Obama Is Told of Signs That Should Have Grounded Plot *New York Times
* comments (138)
By PETER BAKER and CARL HULSE
Published: December 29, 2009
HONOLULU — President Obama declared Tuesday that there had been a “systemic failure” of the nation’s security apparatus after being told about more missed signals and uncorrelated intelligence that should have prevented a would-be bomber from boarding a flight for the United States.
The president was told during a private briefing on Tuesday morning while vacationing here in Hawaii that the government had a variety of information in its possession before the thwarted bombing that would have been a clear warning sign had it been shared among agencies, a senior official said.
Cont:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1&hp
Coincidence?
"Airline attack complicates Guantanamo closing"
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/12/29/attack-yemen-guantanamo.html?re...
If Yemen is not on the "invade and occupy" list, at least Obama can now save face while reversing his decision about trying Guantanamo detainees in NYC.
Coincidence??? Good timing at the very least.
If I wasn't so trusting of our governments and media, I would think that everything including this story on cbc.ca was staged.
nullius in verba.
The Crotch Bomber
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First, there was the Shoe Bomber.
...Then, there was the Crotch Bomber.
Who's next? ...and let's not be sexist.
The...
Underarm Bomber
Bra Bomber
Shirt Sleeve Bomber
Double-chin Bomber
Hearing-aid Bomber
Lovehandles Bomber
Eyebrow Bomber
Condom Bomber
Chapstick Bomber
Belly-button Bomber
Toupe Bomber
Tampax Bomber
Others that you foresee?
Theatre
The Manipulated $tates of Hysteria, brought to you by the criminal cabal of US government, transnational corporations, media, defense industry complex.
The most severe form of learning disorders are owned by those that "already know everything."
A "Sharp dressed man" helped
A "Sharp dressed man" helped the terrorist. Yet another Manchurian candidate?
Stay away from Michael Shermer
Ignore the f*%ker. We all have important stuff to do, and he's a waste of our time.