FBI set to probe Fort Hood gunman Nidal Hasan's 9/11 links

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6909467.ece

The FBI is set to investigate possible links between the gunman who killed 13 US soldiers at Fort Hood and a radical preacher in contact with at least one of the September 11 hijackers.

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, an army psychiatrist, went on the rampage at the military base in Texas last Thursday.

It has emerged that Major Hasan's family attended the Dar al Hijrah Islamic Centre in Falls Church, Virginia, and that the funeral of his mother, Hanan, was held there on May 31 2001.

At that time the imam of the mosque was Anwar al-Awlaki, a Muslim radical who saw Islam and America as enemies. Interviewed by the FBI after the September 11 terror attacks, Mr Awlaki admitted meeting hijacker Nawaf al-Hazmi several times in San Diego before he moved to Virginia in early 2001. Al-Hazmi was at the time living with Khalid al-Mihdhar, another hijacker. The two Saudi Arabians were on the American Airlines flight that crashed into the Pentagon.

Al-Hazmi and a third hijacker, Hani Hanjour, who piloted the Pentagon crash jet, attended the Dar al Hijrah mosque several times in early April 2001, although Mr Aulaqi has denied meeting them then.

Last night Senator Joe Lieberman called for an investigation into whether the army missed signs that Major Hasan had been turning towards Islamic extremism.

Students on a 2007-2008 master’s programme at a military college revealed yesterday that they had complained to faculty about Major Hasan’s alleged anti-American views.They included him giving a presentation that justified suicide bombing and telling classmates that Islamic law trumped the US Constitution.

“If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the US Army has to have zero tolerance,” Senator Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, told Fox News. “He should have been gone.”

Mr Awlaki, who was born in the US to Yemeni parents, left America in 2002, eventually traveling to his parents' homeland.

He was suspected of links with extremism even before 9/11, being investigated by the FBI in 1999 and 2000 for contacts with a possible procurement agent for Osama bin Laden. During this investigation, the FBI learned that Mr Awlaki knew people involved in raising money for Hamas, a Palestinian group on the US State Department’s terrorist list.

A spokesman for the mosque downplayed possible links. Imam Johari Abdul-Malik, outreach director at Dar al Hijrah, said he did not know whether Major Hasan ever attended the mosque but confirmed that the Hasan family participated in services there. Mr Abdul-Malik said the Hasans were not leaders at the mosque and their attendance was utterly normal.

The Falls Church mosque is one of the largest on the East Coast, and thousands of worshippers attend prayers and services there every week. Mr Abdul-Malik said that it was a mistake for people to conflate regular attendance at a mosque with extremism.

Many Muslims prayed at the mosque multiple times a day, he said. “It’s part of family life. It’s like going out for ice cream after dinner.”

Faizul Khan, former imam of the Muslim Community Center in nearby Silver Spring, Maryland, where Major Hasan also worshipped, said he was not aware that the gunman had attended services at Dar al Hijrah but said it would not be unusual for him to attend more than one mosque concurrently.

Mr Khan said he did not recall Major Hasan mentioning having been taught or preached to by Mr Awlaki.

General George Casey, the US Army Chief of Staff, warned against jumping too quickly inclusions, saying that it was important for the country not to get caught up in speculation about Major Hasan’s Muslim faith. He revealed that he has instructed his commanders to be on the lookout for anti-Muslim reaction to the killings at the Texas post.

Focusing on the Islamic roots of the suspected gunman could “heighten the backlash" against all Muslims in the military, he said in interviews on TV networks ABC and CNN, adding that diversity in the military “gives us strength”.

General Casey said that evidence to this point shows that Major Hasan acted alone, ruling out theories that he was part of an Islamic sleeper cell.

Major Hasan was shot in the torso by police at the end of his rampage, and remains in critical but stable condition at an Army hospital in San Antonio. He was now able to breathe unaided, doctors said.

Sixteen victims remain in hospital with gunshot wounds, seven of them in intensive care.

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"The Falls Church mosque is one of the largest on the East Coast, and thousands of worshippers attend prayers and services there every week."

I see it as nothing more than a coincidence, but I guarantee this will be over-inflated by the media.

And then there's this, and this. Liebermann is a full-fledged criminal.


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrori...

Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used 'Electronic Means' to Connect with Terrorists
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS

Nov. 9, 2009 —

U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.

Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said that he requested the CIA and other intelligence agencies brief the committee on what was known, if anything, about Hasan by the U.S. intelligence community, only to be refused.

In response, Hoekstra issued a document preservation request to four intelligence agencies. The letter, dated November 7th, was sent to directors Dennis Blair (DNI), Robert Mueller (FBI), Lt. Gen Keith Alexander (NSA) and Leon Panetta (CIA).

Hoekstra said he is "absolutely furious" that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan's attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News.

"This is a law enforcement investigation, in which other agenciesnot the CIAhave the lead," CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said in a response to ABC News. " Any suggestion that the CIA refused to brief Congress is incorrect."

Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, Anwar al Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S.

In a blog posting early Monday titled "Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing," Awlaki calls Hasan a "hero" and a "man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."

According to his site, Awlaki served as an imam in Denver, San Diego and Falls Church, Virginia.

The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there.

The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego.

He denied any knowledge of the hijacking plot and was never charged with any crime. After an intensive investigation by the FBI , Awlaki moved to Yemen.

People who knew or worked with Hasan say he seemed to have gradually become more radical in his disapproval of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

On Sunday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.

"If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance," Lieberman told Fox News Sunday.

Army Chief of Staff

A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, "We would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University."

Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan's statements.

"And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of office&be an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the constitution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict," Finell told ABC News.

The Army Chief of Staff, General George Casey, raised concerns over the weekend that innocent Muslim soldiers could suffer as a result of the shooting at Fort Hood.

"I think the speculation (on Hasan's Islamic roots) could potentially heighten backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers," he said on ABC's "This Week."

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2 choices

A few points:

(a) Increasingly, we're being led to believe we have to accept one of two possibilities. (1) The first is the "liberal" position: Hasan was severely depressed or otherwise mentally disturbed and suffered a "psychotic break." (2) The second is that he was an Islamic extremist, killing Americans sanely but viciously because of his beliefs.

(b) The second is increasingly becoming elaborated, as people claim to discover links to the 9/11 hijackers or to others in the al Qaeda network.

(c) The more the terrorist option becomes elaborated, the more suspect the whole narrative looks to me.

(d) Note that GW Bush rushed over to comfort the friends of the victims, being praised by the media for his warmth, in contrast to the "cold" Obama.

(e) If this incident is fraudulent, it seems to be directed by the extreme right against Obama and his waffling on troops to Afghanistan. He is, they say, a crypto-Muslim, not a real American, not dedicated to fighting Islamic extremism. This incident seems to be playing a role in moving him off the fence to a major troop commitment.

(f) Of course, this does not mean the event itself was a fake. It may be that they are just cynically exploiting it.

(g) But what about the three shooters the governor of Texas talked about right after the event? Have we explored that sufficiently?

(h) We are told that if Hasan survives he may undergo a military trial. In other words, not a real trial.

(i) The FBI has secured the site, taken his computer, etc. No crime scene left.

(j) 170 witnesses. Will we get to hear their testimony?

(k) Here's something to push for if Hasan survives his hospital stay: a civil trial with all the assurances of fairness that the system can provide. If he's guilty, so be it. If there's something fishy going on, get to the bottom of it.

Could be a sting allowed to happen

Hasan seems like the ideal terrorist case for the new "homegrown terrorism" classification" Islamic--Palestinian yet--and a "lone actor." if you read the literature, emphasis is now on lone actors that are less conspicuous than groups or cells. They are harder to discover, and one would guess, warrant a much more intrusive national security apparatus to rout them out. We can see that the intelligence services are in no wise finished with their anti-Islamic campaign, as evidenced by the very recent rubout of the Islamic cleric in Dearborn, Michigan, and the New York case where someone was allegedly going around buying stuff in cosmetics establishments (hydrogen peroxide?) in order to blow something or other up. Course nobody knows what to make of all of it, but one certainly can't trust the FBI or CIA to give us a straight story.

I though this quote from the story was interesting: "The two Saudi Arabians were on the American Airlines flight that crashed into the Pentagon." For sure? It is certain they were on that flight?

I cannot help jumping down

I cannot help jumping down the memory hole and digging up John Charles De Menezes.In the days that followed his murder at the hands of special forces,three witnesses were used to spread disinformation around the world.One said he had a large coat with wires hanging out,another said he hurdled the ticket barrier chased by three people,another said he had a thick coat and blue hat and looked Pakistani.The Metropolitan police then started a disinfo campaign leaking stories, to a compliant media,that Menezes was an illigal alien and a rapist. All of these claims and allegations were hopelessly wrong and clearly used as a feeble attempt to cover up a blatant murder by using smear and innuendo.

Don,t think for one minute that the UK media is any different from the US media,both are in the sewer.The Times used to have merit and credibility,those days have long gone.The Jean Charles De Menezes case proved just how low the media whores will sink. The media is no more than a propaganda tool of the establishment , British journalists are so low they can crawl under the belly of a snake with a top hat on.

Now THAT'S funny...

Spent 15 years in the comedy BIZ...and "crawl under the belly of a snake with a top hat on"...is a really, really good and totally pertinent joke...with a message!

Sometimes...we need to smile and have a laugh...

Especially when we are taking on the world's biggest police department...who have the world's most advanced "guns'n things"...and which is led by the world's most corrupt leaders!

Thanks for the wit in this CRAZY world!

Love, Peace and Progress

Robin Hordon
Kingston, WA

Good article...

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/11/11-1


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.