Sibel Edmonds: In Pursuit Of The Facts

A MULTITUDE of links in the original. GO SIBEL! - Jon

Inviting Ms. Schakowsky to Join…….

Source: 123realchange.blogspot.com

Dear Congresswoman Schakowsky:

It is an age-old tactic, when one cannot refute statements with facts, to attempt to discredit the witness. Rather than exchanging accusations, let me just go on record with facts and detailed citations.

When I became aware of incriminating evidence against high-level U.S. officials—elected and appointed—I filed under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and fought for five years in court. I bore tremendous cost, financially and emotionally, to make this data public. Here is the court case identification: C.A. No. 1:02CV01294 (ESH).

Few citizens have gone this far in a FOIA case to make covered-up information available to the public. No one gains financially from fighting this kind of thing in court, and I am no exception. You have called me a fantasist, but would a fabricator pay as dearly as I did to have her claims investigated?

I fought another court case to expose government criminality through key witnesses and documents. As in the FOIA case, I bore tremendous costs and was again blocked by the invocation of the State Secrets Privilege and National Security. The court case identification is Civ.No.1:02CV01448(JR)).

No other citizen has twice had the State Secrets Privilege invoked. But why would the government, with the support of congressional representatives, go to such lengths to quash, gag, and classify the files and operations in question if they were “fantasy, lies, and nonexistent” as you say?

I complied with the whistleblowing rule and took my case to the Office of the Inspector General and provided all of the information they allowed me to. They interviewed dozens of witnesses and reviewed hundreds of pages of documents in their investigation of my credibility and the validity of my case. Here is the link to their confirmation that I and my case have merit: DOJ-IG Report. Here is the redacted report that shows how our government censored more than 90% of this report to the public: Redacted DOJ-IG Report. Very few national security whistleblowers have been granted this level of validation and vindication. The Justice Department’s own Office of the Inspector General disagrees with your characterization of me and my case.

Several senior members of Congress—from both sides of the aisle--have also investigated and publicly confirmed my credibility and the grave nature of my disclosures. This is what Senator Leahy had to say: Leahy Statement. This is what Congresswoman Maloney said: Rep. Maloney Statement. Here are the assessments of Senator Lautenberg--Sen. Lautenberg Statement—and Senator Grassley--Sen. Grassley Statement. By attacking my credibility, you are also attacking your colleagues, including many on your side of the aisle. Are you accusing these senators and representatives of being fantasists too?

You have been described as a “true blue” civil libertarian, so it will surely interest you to know that the ACLU has declared me “the most gagged” person in the history of this great nation. Are you also attacking the ACLU and calling their characterization of this case a fantasy?

I have testified under oath, and my public biography will provide you with information about my educational background, financial background, and family life. I am fully aware of the consequences of perjury, and as you can see, I would have a lot to lose were that the case. I am sure you are familiar with my sworn testimony, but you can review it here.

I’ve done more than my share through the courts, IG offices, Congress, and media. I don’t have your power. You sit on the House Intelligence Committee, and you are one of the members of the majority party in Congress.

Here is what you can do: Call for an investigation and a hearing before your committee on this long covered-up case. Subpoena the files and call the witnesses. Bring in retired Special Agent Gilbert Graham and have him testify on the official report and complaint he filed with the DOJ inspector general in 2002 regarding the FBI counterespionage investigations involving Turkey and Israel in which targeted US representatives were illegally wiretapped. This is not fiction. Here is the official and signed public version: SA Gilbert Graham Report.

Also bring in former FBI Counterintelligence Operations Manager & Espionage Investigator John M. Cole and have him testify under oath regarding espionage cases involving State Department officials, Pentagon officials, and Congressional members. Here is a preview of some of the information disclosed and confirmed by Agent Cole: Interview and Radio Interview.

Also bring in the sworn testimonies of current FBI special agents in the Chicago and DC field offices who dutifully and patriotically led the counterintelligence operations on Turkey and corrupt US officials, only to see their investigations blocked and covered-up. Their names are public.

Order the Justice Department to release the two main Counterintelligence Operations Files on Turkey and “US persons of interest”—one from FBI Chicago Field Office-1996-2002, the other from FBI DC Field Office-1996-2001. These will help bring out the facts regarding your story too. I have documentation supporting the existence of these files.

Recall that I did not accuse you of any criminal or espionage-related activity.

The last time I saw a similar attack on my credibility was when Dennis Hastert issued a non-denial denial to information contained in a previous magazine article. He later gave up his seat, registered himself (under FARA) as an agent for the government of Turkey, and went on to collect $35,000 per month as a foreign agent. I certainly hope you are not planning to follow his footsteps by giving up your seat and officially registering with a foreign government. It would be far better if you used your position to bring out the facts. I will be delighted to assist you.

Sibel Edmonds

Truth

Is it possible that American government, media and education is controlled?

An unfortunate miss-phrasing...

Is it possible that American governement, media and eduaction are NOT controlled?

...would be the better question to ask.

When more citizens know about what's happeneing on "American Idle" [misspelling by design]...than what is happeneing in thier own governances, well, this demise isn't a coincidence.

Indeed, its quite contrived!

VIVA the young generation who have their "fingertips touching the keyborads to the world"...

The HI PERPS have decimated the education and news? research and presentation process in the last three decades...and...the young kids have figured a way around it.

Too bad that all the grayhairs out there don't have a laptop...they just have a "channel changer" to click with one finger...

Using one finger?...when you could be using five...is a good way to identify self limiting...

Here is my advice to all the gray hairs who slowly fell into NAPS since the 60s...

"Ask your children to buy you a laptop...and ask your grandchildren to teach you how to use it...because its an intersting Truthful World out here..."

Love, Peace and Progress...

Robin Hordon
Kingston, WA

UPDATES

And It’s Not Only Sibel Edmonds Who Says So
http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2009/09/28/and-its-not-only-sibel-edmonds-w...

VIDEO: Schakowsky Publicly Denies Affair With Turkish Agent as 'Total Fantasy', 'Totally Made Up'
FBI whistleblower Edmonds stands by allegations, challenges IL Dem Congresswoman to 'bring a libel suit against me'...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7436

EDIT:
CIA Vet: FBI Whistleblower Edmonds 'Very Credible'
Longtime counterterrorism agent, Phil Giraldi comments on FBI vet John Cole's recent confirmation of Bush official targeted in 'decade-long' espionage probe
(Giraldi also slated to be my guest on Wed.'s 'Malloy Show')
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7440

http://911reports.com
http://www.historycommons.org

Strong words from Sibel.

Good to see her take on the Congresswoman head on like that.

HUGE

The public profile of Sibel is skyrocketing. If she gets challenged on any number of issues it could be explosive. And if she wins any of these challenges, the credibility of 9/11 truth gets pulled up with her on a number of fronts -- very important fronts, i might add. THAT'S WHY Sibel is so important, IMVHO. That and the fact she has knowledge about key players involved in a twisted hoax that's been (and is being) played on us. We all need to do whatever we can to get this information into the main stream. Trust me, the "they" that doesn't want this information out there hopes this becomes old news, real soon. Let's not let that happen.

Thanks Jon for keeping us up-to-speed.

Zing!!

Great job Sibel !!---cant wait to hear the Congresswomans' response.

On the specific case of the funeral

It appears SIbel wasn't cautious enough. This now means she has been partially 'debunked'.

This doesn't mean her allegations about the set-up, the bisexuality and the blackmail aren't true. But I do find this a tad bit disappointing.

I encourage everyone to read through http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7429

For example, here is Giraldi:

We have already heard from the congresswoman's office and will probably let her rebut "factual errors" but will not get into a series of exchanges with her, though that is a decision that the magazine will make, not me. It was an interview not an article and while we made a clear case that we consider Sibel credible we were not able to factcheck all the names and issues she presented us with though we did check dates and other easily verifiable material. I am not even sure how one would check a death date in the state of Illinois for someone whose maiden name one does not know and as for the townhouse, property records have to be searched in a local court house, as I recall. I cannot address the reliability of the information being provided by the congresswoman and would not even want to attempt to do so.

Sibel's response is basically a long argument from authority. I'll wait and see how this plays out. There's really no point in pretending everything is fine.

As I wrote...

Before...

The specific details of who owns what, or whose funeral she attended may not have been part of the "intercepted communication of targeted operatives" that Sibel has been reporting on "more or less verbatim." She says they referred to the mother as "the mother..." So, Sibel assumed, and rightly so, that it was Rep. Jan Schakowsky's mother.

She does make sure to say "Did the set up take place? Yes; confirmed by the FBI surveillance team; Chicago-Field Office."

There is an expression that I've heard before, but I don't remember it verbatim. It went something like, "if someone denies something in Washington D.C., you know they did it."

Sibel is FAR from debunked. Don't forget the response from Schakowsky's office that used words like "birther" and "aliens" and "conspiracy theory...", a standard response from those who have a guilty aura around them.


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

I have faith that Sibel is

I have faith that Sibel is honest about her information, there is another dimension in preventing the people who attack her from casting doubt on her allegations. Facts put forth in public statements need to be rigorously checked, including funeral dates, etc. I mean, a private investigator could do this. I mean Giraldi, ex-CIA, can't?

They need to protect themselves from this. We can't have poorly checked details serve as attack vector. SIbel's credibility is very important in relation to whenever she speaks out about 9/11. In short, I hope this doesn't end well for Schakowski, but I'm slightly startled.

I agree she's far from debunked, but politicians have excellent spin doctors on their payroll. They can't have any wiggle room.

By the way...

I sent Sibel an email last night. I'm not going to post it, but I essentially said that if the media decides to cover this, they are most likely going to focus on the "sex scandal" portion of it, and that she couldn't allow that to happen... that she knows what the important issue is, etc...

She said, "I totally agree."


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?

There is an expression

'There is an expression that I've heard before, but I don't remember it verbatim. It went something like, "if someone denies something in Washington D.C., you know they did it."'

Reminds me of one I've heard: 'Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.'

Don't give up

on all of us "gray hairs"...I am a 60 year old politically progressive 9/11 truther. Not all of us are young, male, or libertarian...Unfortunately I can't seem to get my own sons to become politically active...YET..But I do enjoy interacting with the amazing young people in the truth movement via the internet..and at times taking to the streets.

Amen, 73 and still squealing

for TRUTH, PEACE, JUSTICE, then reconciliation and forgiveness. Thank you Truthers and Changers.

More...

Credibility for Sibel Edmonds...

http://123realchange.blogspot.com/2009/09/grossman-confirmed-as-fbi-targ...


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?