Charles Goyette agrees to be on National 9/11 Debate Media Panel
http://www.muckrakerreport.com/id317.html
The National 9/11 Debate™ is pleased to announce that Charles Goyette has agreed to participate in the National 9/11 Debate on March 10, 2007 in Charleston, South Carolina. Mr. Goyette will be part of the media panel that will pose questions to the debate team members.
Charles Goyette, recently honored as "Best Phoenix Talk Show Host" by the New Times, is a familiar voice to radio listeners all across Arizona and increasingly to listeners across the country. Thanks to his outspokenness and the clarity of his positions, radio listeners everywhere are finding they can't get enough of "America's Most Independent Talk Show Host!" His show is heard weekday mornings on KFNX AM 1100.
Charles has shared his views with television audiences locally and nationally on MSNBC and Fox News, including on The O'Reilly Factor, and on the popular PBS program NOW with Bill Moyers. Recently a national television documentary team chose to feature Charles' radio show for a forthcoming PBS special exploring immigration issues. Charles is also heard on talk radio nationally, filling in for syndicated talk show hosts such as Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann.
The need for a public National 9/11 Debate is made apparent by Zogby, CNN, and New York Times / CBS news poll results that indicate that fifty to eighty-four percent of Americans do not fully accept as complete or accurate, the Bush Administration’s account of what happened on September 11, 2001.
The format of the National 9/11 Debate will include a credentialed five-member debate team that supports the government’s account of 9/11, a credentialed five-member debate team that disputes elements of the government’s account, and a media panel that will monitor the debates and pose questions to the debate team members.
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Would like to be on this panel.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Great Quotations to have on file.
Regarding the debate over 9/11 and especially the consequences of the event:
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nation will accept the New World Order." -- David Rockefeller
"the process of transformation.. is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor." -- PNAC document
The investigations behind events like September 11th may be questionable, but the intentions of certain groups of people isn't.
*David Rockefeller is the founder and honorary chairman of the Trilateral Commission (founded in 1973) and said this on the evening of September 23rd in 1994.
*PNAC quote from Sept. 2000 document "Rebuilding America's Defenses" (p. 51)
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
The Project for a New American Century, or PNAC, is an organization based out of Washington D.C., was established in 1997, and includes such members as Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Lewis Scooter Libby, Richard Perle, William Kristol, Jeb Bush, and Paul Wolfowitz.
Murtha's 9/11 Rocket to Stardom
This is off topic, but... I don't see much coverage here ( or anywhere) of the Jack Murtha role in the Johnstown leg of the Flight 93 scam on 9/11. For those uninitiated - Murtha and his "crew" were running a hijacked plane drill the morning of 9/11, when suddenly, just 7 miles away, supposedly Flight 93 crashed.
Luckily for the administration (again), people were in place to "manage perception" and color or hide any details that may have been out of whack. Now the Dems are pushing for this guy to be the Majority Leader. So, we'll have an ex-CIA bud of Poppy Bush as Defense Sec., and a potential 9/11 accomplice as the House Maj. Leader. Right on, dudes.
I'm waiting to see why the designated "Pro Wrestling bad guy" Dick Cheney's terror drills on 9/11 are under scrutiny, but the "upwardly mobile since 9/11", and highly-MIC connected Jack Murtha gets a pass. This issue, above all others so far, may help distinguish between the authentic 9/11 sites and those that are, shall we say, UTI... "under the influence."
I wondered why Murtha
was the posterboy for the "official antiwar" motions...
this is all becoming more than obvious...
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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero
WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
Do you have a link to anything talking about...
....Murtha running a nearby hijacked plane dril that morning? I have never seen that....thanks...
Yeah. We need a little evidence.
It's hard keeping this controversial material straight, but I always thought Jack Murtha was a pretty straight dude. This possible involvement in 9/11 is news to me. Do you have any links to sources confirming this "war game" exercise he was overseeing?
We should start compiling a list of people we think or know to be involved in 9/11 and another list of politicians etc we know not to have been involved in 9/11. I have to know of some good people to vote for and which ones to avoid.
Thanks.
I didn't know [74-year-old] Congressmen run hijacking drills
Is this part of their routine duties?
I really need to see some links & further corroboration of this story. It sounds very fishy to me.
Google of Murtha's 9/11 Drills
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-4...
Your links don't pan out. Nothing about Murtha "war games."
Stick with Cheney & war games. No more disinfo please.
Dead links
My apologies. I posted that Google search results because I had to hit the road that day, assuming the links I'd found would show up. And now, all the previous links re: Murtha and 9/11 itself are missing. It's been a while since I found this story referenced on about 5 sites, over 2 years ago.
All I can find reference to now is the previous day's (9/10/01) terror meeting at that airport. An anomaly in itself, albeit much less indicative of Murtha's role.
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.20
http://www.co.cambria.pa.us/cambria/cwp/view.asp?A=1213&Q=499509&tx=1
This Murtha-airport connection on 9/11 was either disinfo to begin with, was incorrectly construed from the 9/10 info, or was very real and it's now been successfully scrubbed. Any 'disinfo' was not deliberate.
from what i saw, a wargame
from what i saw, a wargame had something to do with Jack Murtha Airport or something like that, not the man himself. i didnt really delve though.
from what I've read of your postings
not a bad idea.
National 9/11 Debate - Reject Govt Version
Each team will have 5 members. Additional names represent alternates.
James H. Fetzer - Team Leader
David Ray Griffin
Steven E. Jones
George Nelson
Charles Pegelow
Kevin Ryan
Judy D. Wood
With this engineering-heavy crew, this debate will probably focus on building collapses and the argument may become circular, especially since most of the evidence is gone forever. With all respect, some broader perspective would help. Jon would broaden the perspective, as certainly would the ultimate expert on state-sponsored terrorism, Webster G. Tarpley.
add: Dan L. Abrahamson
"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
yeah, hes a pretty smart
yeah, hes a pretty smart kid. i would say add Tarpley too though, the guy is a walking encyclopedia of false flag facts.
Remove Judy Wood, add Dan Abrahamson...
...I'm sorry, but Judy Wood's inclusion is an absolute recipe for disaster-
and that may in fact be Fetzer's point in including her...
If she starts talking about directed energy beams from outer space being
more probable than thermate in the destruction of the towers- and
getting fellow team-member Jones into a debate (as on the Fetzer
radio show not too long ago)- it will be an absolute disaster.
Put Dan Abrahamson or Tarpley on this panel, Fetzer. For the love of Truth!
Here's my dream team...
Paul Thompson
David Ray Griffin
Steven E. Jones
Barrie Zwicker
Lorie Van Auken
Jenna Orkin
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
This gives us...
Encyclopedic knowledge of the event, a logical viewpoint, scientific analysis, media analysis, family analysis, and environmental analysis.
I would give away the drum set my grandfather gave me to see this.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Perfect If + 1 More
I would still add Webster Tarpley to the list. He seems like he could hold his own in a debate on this topic.
I think...
Nafeez might make a better addition.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Tarpley!
Took the words right out of my fingers, he would need to be on there.
Ray Mcgovern
Would give you a big bonus, anyone that can make Rumsfeld look like a absolute and total fool, shows an understanding of the man and the facts.
The guy is incredible.
no doubt, you HAVE to
no doubt, you HAVE to include Zwicker in my opinion. the guy is a genius.
I'm honored to have hung out
I'm honored to have hung out with Zwicker, he is incredibly insightful, and a true representative of investigative journalism's spirit.
Thumbs up!
That would be a great team.
Judy Wood and Steven Jones
Are Jones and Wood going to debate each other?
We would like you to be on, too.
You would learn something.
Still can't help but think....
There going to back out.This needs to be advertized as much as possible.
Goyette tore one of the Popular Mechanic's shills to shreds on
his radio show about 6 months ago!
goyette is a very clear
goyette is a very clear minded guy. He is also always seems completely completely sane. This is great.
OT: P20G
Anybody got the scoop on P20G? Just checked wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proactive_and_Preemptive_Operations_Group
Maybe worth a looksie or two? eh?
P2OG
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2002/10/102802.html
DOD EXAMINES "PREEMPTIVE" INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS
"One way to invigorate U.S. intelligence would be to 'Develop an entirely new capability to proactively, preemptively evoke responses from adversary/terrorist groups,' according to the Defense Science Board, a Pentagon advisory group."
"Such an approach would 'improve [intelligence] information collection by stimulating reactions' from the target."
See, the plan was always about "evoking terrorist groups". But what this really means is rounding up random Iraqis, torturing them, and releasing them, knowing full well that they were going to retaliate by going ape shit. That's how Iraq became the suicide bomb capital of the world. Iraq never used to be like that, and now it is. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. This has been buried for far too long. Even the most vocal opposition democrats in washington are sugar coating this.
will Davin Coburn be on the panel?
Hey, I also just learned that Alexander Cockburn pronounces his last name Coburn.
Coincidence?
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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero
WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
Your Smart Phone's data belongs to us, says US
US CITIZENS face the danger of their smartphones being confiscated ad infinitum according to a report in the New York Times.
This report revealed that laptop computers are currently seized on a completely ad hoc basis from US citizens on re-entry to the US without "probably cause, reasonable suspicion or warrant."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/131106data.htm
Damn!
And I just got a Blackberry.
Flight 77 Video out on 12/21.
Washington DC. On March 8th, 2005 Flight77.info (Plaintiff, Scott Bingham) filed the first ever FOIA lawsuit to obtain government confiscated video related to Flight 77 on 9/11. It was originally revealed through our effort is this lawsuit (within the 7 page statement by Special Agent Maguire) that the government is holding Flight 77 related video that was confiscated from the Doubletree Hotel in Arlington, Virginia on 9/11.
Flight77.info has paved the way in this case, and is in fact the primary source forcing the release of the Doubletree Hotel video.
The planned release date of this video is December 21, 2006. The reason given is that the FBI is moving its FOIA function to Winchester, Virginia and its video equipment is currently being reassembled there. This is the reason given.
Once released, the video will be posted on Flight77.info. As we did in with the new Pentagon impact footage, we will strive to post an exact copy of the video file that is released to us - not a link to a further compressed file hosted on YouTube. We have plans to increase our bandwidth to meet the demand.
http://www.flight77.info/
As stated in the last page of the Maguire Statement, whatever is on this video, it will not be the impact. It will likely be a glimpse of the flight.
It has always been the intent of the effort at Flight77.info (since our original FOIA request was written on October 14, 2004) to strive to bridge the gap created by the divisive arguments within the 9/11 Truth Movement about what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11. Our intent is to help focus the the movement.
We believe in the 9/11 Truth Movement. Its advancement is our reward.
That is a pathetic, b.s. excuse to further delay a crucial video
"The reason given is that the FBI is moving its FOIA function to Winchester, Virginia and its video equipment is currently being reassembled there. This is the reason given."
I appreciate the offer of an exact copy being posted. In physical evidence like this, all the video needs to be seen/revealed as clearly as possible. (If we can get clearer video/audio of the WTC eruptions/explosions, we could crack that part wide open, IMO.)
Dear Shill: Please answer a few questions
Regarding AA-77 Striking the Pentagon:
How could flunky Hani Hanjour have flown all the way from Ohio/Kentucky, and why/how did he make those incredible acrobatics to hit the tiny, renovated section?
How did AA-77 fly all around the Eastern U.S., after the towers were struck, without being intercepted or even observed/photographed by NORAD/Air Force?
Why won’t the gov’t release any clear video of what struck the Pentagon, more than 5 years later?
How did they obtain DNA (delicate organic material) for 63 or 64 passengers when the seats, luggage, and most all of the airplane were vaporized in a fireball @ 530 mph?
What were Cheney & the “young man” play acting in front of Norman Minetta?
DNA
Never mind how they retrieved the DNA from the wreckage. Just ask how the had the passenger's oriiginal DNA samples in the first place which was needed to make the comparrisons.
From relatives and personal items
Nitwit
what about the hijackers?
Where did they get their DNA? From Bush's guest house in Crawford?
simply put
nothing gets past the Pentagon's 2nd-to-none, missle shield without a military transponder on board or an intentional shut-down of the system -- no "false" hopes here, just the facts, m'am; and the facts all say, "inside job," plane or missle, video or no video; just the facts..."the whole truth and nothing but the truth...what were 'the orders' as per 'do the orders still stand?' "
"Your answer, sir; the court is waiting to hear your answer."
You hit that right on the
You hit that right on the head with cruise missle.
Missile Shield
nothing gets past the Pentagon's 2nd-to-none, missle shield without a military transponder on board or an intentional shut-down of the system -- no "false" hopes here
Given that the Pentagon is only 2 miles away from Reagan National, it is rather unlikely that they have some type of magical automated "missile shield", but even if I imagine its existence, how exactly is it "second to none"? Please list the numbers, locations and full military nomenclature of the radar and missile systems at the Pentagon.
If not, how can you evaluate the effectiveness of a weapon system that you cannot identify or describe in any manner?
sorry
if I knew that much they'd have to shoot me - and I'll bet you wonder why whistle-blowers aren't jumping out of every armoire?
You illustrtaed my point for me.
It's funny that you don't even bother to research those "questions" yourself. They've been addressed years ago and you claim not to know the answers?
Hani Hanjour was capable of flying, NORAD wasn't looking inward, vidoes are irrelevant as I carefully explained, and DNA comes from blood relatives.
Duh.
Now, refute me or go back into hiding.
your big chance
VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
those below have declined to join the debate - 3 seats still open
9/11 Commission Members
Thomas H. Kean
Lee H. Hamilton
Richard Ben-Veniste
Bob Kerrey
Fred F. Fielding
John F. Lehman
Jamie S. Gorelick
Timothy J. Roemer
Slade Gorton
James R. Thompson
Applied Research Associates, Inc.
Steven Kirkpatrick
American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE)
Zdenek P. Bazant, Northwestern University
Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, Berkeley
Computer Aided Engineering Associates, Inc.
Peter Barrett
Popular Mechanics
James Meigs
David Dunbar
Brad Reagan
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Scientists
World Trade Center Collapse Investigators
S. Shyam Sunder, Lead Investigator
Richard G. Gann, Project 5 Leader
William Grosshandler, Project 4 Leader
H.S. Lew, Project 1 Co-Leader
Richard W. Bukowski, Project 1 Co-Leader
Fahim Sadek, Project 2 Leader
Frank W. Gayle, Project 3 Leader
John L. Gross, Project 6 Co-Leader
Therese P. McAllister, Project 6 Co-Leader
Jason D. Averill, Project 7 Leader
J. Randall Lawson, Project 8 Leader
Harold E. Nelson, Fire Protection Expert
Stephen A. Cauffman, Program Manager
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
Philip Zelikow
Securacom (WTC Security Provider)
Barry McDaniel
Hiding the truth again
It's always interesting that the simple truth about evidence gets 9/11 Deniers foaming at the mouth that they have to hide the post lest "innocent" minds become exposed to truth.
Amazing.
Denial
When you say "9/11 Denier," are you trying to suggest that people who question the official story are like Holocaust deniers?
Two can play that game.
It can much more easily be said that you are in denial, and the NIST study is your Leuchter Report.
People that deny the Holocaust refuse to believe that a government would murder its own citizens.
question
In terms of percentages, how much of your time researching 9/11 has been spent focusing on the pentagon? I'd be shocked if it was anything less than 50%!
And here's another question: how does the possibility of a faked airline crash compare to the theft of over 2 trillion dollars from that same building? Which is the bigger story?
The Gig is Up!
There are hundreds of videos in and around the Pentagon which if made available would offer a full spectrum of whatever it was that hit the Pentagon. The fact that we have not recieved any of these videos after countless requests and no legitimate reason for withholding them speaks to the guilt of obstruction of justice. Furthermore, one video from the Doubletree will prove nothing more than possibly showing a large commercial jet flowing low towards the Pentagon. We want all the videos because it needs a complete perspective. By this time, 5 plus years later, the Government's defense of their 911 version has become laughable. Furthermore, the Pentagon still has nothing to do with the WTC demolitions; nor does it deal with lack of Air defense; nor with bizzarely coincidental military exercises and drills occuring on 911 which dealt with scenarios nearly identical to what occured on 911; nor does it deal with the Pakistan Intelligence aperatus in DC; nor does it deal with a mountain of evidence which points to the government as liars and likely conspirators of the attrocities of 911.
Suspect in Mail Powder
Suspect in Mail Powder Threats Due in Court
Preliminary tests showed the white powder was not hazardous, officials said.
The letters, which had fake return addresses, were received by Pelosi, a California Democrat who is in line to become speaker of the House; comedians Stewart and David Letterman; Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer of New York; and MSNBC host Keith Olberman.
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/suspect-in-mail-powder-threats-due-...
Something about that story
Something about that story smells fishy. The powder was not hazardous. The FBI supposedly nailed this guy because they "...watched Castagana walk from his home to a public mailbox Thursday and deposit several letters. One was allegedly addressed to someone previously targeted and contained the white powder." Notice how it states that one letter was "allegedly" addressed to someone who previously got a letter. The statement only alleges; it does not confirm. We should also wonder how the FBI happened to decide which mailbox to watch considering there must be a whole mess of them at any given zipcode in LA. I highly doubt the mail carriers flag the mail as being from a specific box upon pickup. I also would like to know how the FBI knew exactly which letters this guy deposited(unless they somehow kept it empty so his letters wouldn't get mixed.) or how they knew they needed to check the box after him. Constantly checking the mailbox to see if letters had anthrax would also blow their cover so I doubt they were doing that.
I also would like to know why the Federal Bureau of Idiots can't get their shit together to find the individual who actually mailed Anthrax and killed people? Get it together retards.
it would be a simple matter
it would be a simple matter to codify the bag that contains the mail from a specific mail box. I don't think that would cause any difficulty as letters are coded as they are processed (stretched out short barcodes) which can surely map out the point of origin into the mail system.
Much like IP packets and the net, in this case the route of a piece of mail is hard coded into the system. A letter with a zip of 20001-1001 would go to a specific mail distribution center in washington, and this with the code for the mailbox (origin) would map out the letters complete trail through the us postal services's system.
If they don't do it know it would be a simple system to implement.
Bush speaks: "elections even in a time of war"
"Whatever your opinion of the outcome, all Americans can take pride in the example our democracy sets for the world by holding elections even in a time of war."
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/131106Elections.htm
- keep this statement of Bush in mind when they try to play the whole thing down
What is scary here is that
What is scary here is that these liars continue to show their true colors... they allow parts of the plan to escape when the speak... if you listen closely you can catch them....
Makes me wonder what they have in store fo the next election..... will they stage another attack so they can impose Martial Law and suspend elections indefinitely making BUSH our supreme ruler?
Liars always slip up... unfortunately they can slip past most of the people most of the time.
Impeachment off the table?.... they are allowing this to happen
Ron Paul kicks ass
my favorite republican is at it again:
Congressman: American Concentration Camps "On The Books"
Texas Representative urges repeal of neo-fascist laws in America before it is too late
Re-elected Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul joined Alex Jones on air last week to discuss the fallout of the midterm elections and what he sees transpiring over the next two years. He ended by ominously warning that if something is not done soon to overturn legislation such as the Military Commissions act, the law officially allows for citizen concentration camp facilities.
http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/131106RonPaul.htm
In case anyone hasn't heard the goyette interview...
......with Davin Coburn of Popular Mechanics, it's in my signature below.
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They can't explain the Mineta Testimony:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y
Davin Coburn of Popular Mechanics takes beating from Charles Goyette:
http://media.putfile.com/Davin-Coburn-of-Popular-Mechanics-on-Charles-Go...
Short clip of Davin's handy work
http://www.truthcult.com
Charles interviews Davin. Its a clip of one of the interviews but it very quickly reveals Davin's command of the facts.
I can't take these people
I can't take these people anymore, we really need to get the truth out there.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/detainees_lawsuits
Dictatorship is at the
Dictatorship is at the footsteps. It won't be long til it hits home.
Just wait 'til the economy
Just wait 'til the economy tanks. Then *boom*, that's when it tumbles.
Better yet, don't wait!
Better yet, don't wait! Let's act.
Cool!
Let's act what?
BushCo is going to have to pay dearly for these crimes!
Also, if they have taken away all these kidnapped prisoners' rights, it's not much of a stretch before they start doing that to us here.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts on what this debate will establish, if anything?
WTF? ALL WTC FOCUS? LAME!
My god, all a focus on the WTC huh? Wow, some debate. There's not going to be any debate on
Nafeez Ahmed/Peter Scott Dale/Sander Hicks/Michael Chouddosky's work?
Man, according to most truthers, 9/11 happened in a vacuum with no Arabs at all...just CIA white guys pressing buttons with joysticks. Weak sauce.
To TRULY understand 9/11, is to learn the true history of Pakistan, Khalid Shaek Mohammed, and the 1996-2001 period around the world. Simply discussing "well see, the melting point..." is freaking LAME.
But hey, Im just a "shill" because I believe a lot of truthers are focusing way too much on the wrong avenues.
no, your a shill because you
no, your a shill because you say the same crap over and over. ISI is the holy grail, liberals are to blame for everything and anyone who talks about the Pentagon or the Towers is a shill. thats what you always type, never fails. some dont focus on arabs at all, your right, and thats a problem, but you focus on them way too much.
calm down folks
this is why a debate like this needs Tarpley - he puts it all together with cogent precision - listening to his broadcasts, you will hear him distinguish his position from others, but never attack any faction within the movemnt - he knows clearly the need for solidarity, knows it from his work with SDS and from its having been hijacked by cointelpro agents - he does hit the left gatekeepers hard - what we all should be doing - hitting their blogs hard with the 911 truth message
9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA, Third Edition
9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA--Third Edition, by Webster G. Tarpley, is the best 9/11 truth book so far!
Click here to search inside the book: http://www.amazon.com/9-11-Synthetic-Terror-Third/dp/0930852370
Lecture from the book
A/V
http://www.911busters.com/New_911_Evidence/WMV/Webster_Tarpley_NYC.wmv
audio only
http://www.911busters.com/New_911_Evidence/MP3/Webster_Tarpley_NYC.html
and to some the dancing israelis were just
dancing. i say put em all on the agenda--arabs, israelis, CIA Mossad, neocons, and see where the chips fall.
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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero
WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
What makes you think that the physics evidence is mutually
exclusive of the documentary & testimonial evidence?
Use all the avialable evidence!
thank you sir! thats what i
thank you sir! thats what i always say.
WTC focus
I dont like to focus on the WTC either, because like some have said, it is like focusing on the video where Kennedy's head gets knocked backwards. That was pure undeniable proof that there was a bigger conspiracy and an even bigger cover up. And what good did it do?
The funny thing is the WTC debate is basically already won. The steel was hauled away in a blatant criminal act. Someone should swing for that.
And Goo-liani somehow "knew" the towers were going to collapse, and both FAA and NORAD were well aware that more planes were being hijacked. Yet people were told to go back to work, and no effort was made to evacuate both buildings immediately after the first tower was hit. So there's hundreds of needless deaths that need to be avenged, regardless of what conspiracy theory you believe. Then there's the thousands of people who were told the air was safe to breathe. Another blatant and deadly cover up that does not require a tin foil hat to see.
There are 3 COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT PIECES OF VIDEO EVIDENCE (at precisely 14:37 of 9/11 Mysteries and the 2 videos here ) that clearly show an explosion at the base of the tower immediately preceding the collapse, yet these facts are not integrated into the NIST report. That proves the NIST report is a fraud, unless you (rather unscientifically) assume that an explosion which immediately preceded the collapse was just a "coincidence". Regardless of what "weakened the steel" at the impact site, the explosion at the base of the tower is what initiated the actual collapse. That can be the only logical conclusion one can reach, given all the available evidence.
The shaking of the tripod mounted camera is of particular interest to me, given the "tuning fork" properties of steel skyscrapers and all that that implies. It can easily be proven that the shaking of an adjacent building can not be caused by collapsing floor trusses high up in the WTC. Only an event at ground level could have caused adjacent buildings to shake. Erm... where are the so called "scholars" on this? I hope they get this all figured out by March of next year... otherwise that debate is going to be pretty ugly.
Congressman: American Concentration Camps "On The Books"
Texas Representative urges repeal of neo-fascist laws in America before it is too late
Re-elected Texas Republican Congressman Ron Paul joined Alex Jones on air last week to discuss the fallout of the midterm elections and what he sees transpiring over the next two years. He ended by ominously warning that if something is not done soon to overturn legislation such as the Military Commissions act, the law officially allows for citizen concentration camp facilities.
...
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, The Congressman spoke on the issue of going about demanding a repeal of freedom crushing legislation such as the Patriot act and the Military Commissions act and the Defense Authorization Act which essentially wipes out Habeas Corpus.
...
http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/131106RonPaul.htm
We must take these Nazi-like camp threats very seriously!
Bush, Cheney, et al, don't seem very scared or nervous to me.
Giuliani just announced that he is preparing to run for President in '08!
These people are just as arrogant as ever, IMO!
Sorry, just saw that Chris linked this same AJ story above
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My Dream
My Dream Team:
Fetzer
Tarpley
Barrett
Steven Jones
sounds good to me, just
sounds good to me, just throw in Alex Jones for some passion and urgency and you got a panel.
Add David Ray Griffin Alex
Add
David Ray Griffin
Alex Jones
Delete
Fetzer
Ray McGovern
Sugar Ray!
i dont think hes willing to
i dont think hes willing to go on record yet. he makes some encouraging comments but he still hasnt taken that leap.