Digg links back to DemocraticUnderground.com so fire away.

Well spoken! He speaks for the people. That last statement was great: "The sooner you put leaders in jail..."
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If one does not thoroughly LOOK, the TRUTH is not visible.

I thought Amy did a good job introducing the ballot initiative to viewers...

part 1:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MGHGixdN6h4

part 2:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TQp69v5mbIg

Was that Amy Goodman actually covering a 9/11 Truth story? I think I'm going to pass out from shock.

I still think this is a topic she wishes would just go away, so I suspect intense public pressure had a lot to do with this. If you're someone like Amy, having kept silent (or worse) for so long, you have to wonder what happens to your career when the dam breaks on the truth about 9/11. What happens when her legion of faithful followers begins to wonder why they've been led down the OCT garden path by Democracy Now all this time? Where was the courageous journalism? Where was the attempt to get at the truth in all these disastrous post-9/11 years? Can her audience ever trust her again?

All past bitterness aside, this is an exciting development. I thought Gravel spoke very powerfully and his personal history in regard to such highly relevant events give him the kind of gravitas that makes him hard to dismiss lightly. I hope like hell his appearance pulled in a boatload of new signatures from many people who previously had no idea this effort was underway. DN's audience is huge, so I'm hopeful!

I LOVED what he said about the importance of actually putting a U.S. president behind bars! Talk about a new morning in America...

The more work that Kucinich does, and the more opportunities that Gravel and others have to "call out" the corporate control of the USofA as it relates to 9/11, the clearer become the differences in the various people and groups associated with the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Perhaps it woud be productive time spent to drop back a fair distance in order to gain a better perspective about The Ron Paul Experiment and Ron Paul himself, the political front organization of The Ron Paul Experiment known as We Are Change Chapters, and what Alex Jones' objectives and future contributions might be.

More and more exposures about new and positive information surrounding the events of 9/11 are happening seemingly every day, and more and more, The Ron Paul Experiment is moving in the complete opposite direction. The Ron Paulers were never interested in anything to do with 9/11 anyway, they just were positioned to ride the 9/11 Truth Movement's coattails, and of course, to discredit the movement itself. Whether by design or not, it was a classic cointelpro action...

For the thousands of really good people in the various We Are Change groups around the world, perhaps you should hijack the WAC idea and retool it to something other than a front for Ron Paul, Libertarianism, and whatever Alex Jones' goals might be. It could become a really good idea if this happens.

One thing for sure, the above mentioned folks are being seen differently as time marches on...especially the Ron Paul devotees who used the 9/11 Truth organizational opportunity to hand out Ron Paul propaganda.

In defense of Alex Jones, the first half of Terrorstorm is nothing less than brilliant, and I hope that he creates another shorter video that ties in all the false flag attacks that were used to manipulate the people of this country into yet another unwanted war.

This would be the BEST tool to penetrate the barriers to 9/11 Truth set up by the high levels of the peace movements. This messaging would really resonate well with the public because the average person would come to understand that it is a PERSONAL COMPLIMENT that they need to be lied to in order to support wars that they would NEVER agree to support without such trickery foisted upon them by their own government.

Alex Jones...a request!

Hey, all the data, history and film footage are there to accomplish this..how about it? Please step up and help us implement the first step to inform the REMAINING MILLIONS of people about the truths behnd 9/11. Lets get them into the 9/11 Truth Rabbitt Hole and trust hem to go where they want to go in repairing our democracy. You most likely would also expand your fan base.

Love, Peace and Progress with:

PUBLICALLY FUNDED ELECTIONS using HAND COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS on a NEW PAID FEDERAL VOTING HOLIDAY...just for starters as we take our country back...

Robin Hordon

... is lost in infighting, I feel appalled. That is all I can say.

FFS!

Top reasons NYC 9/11 Truth activists will NOT support the current ballot initiative.

1 – The initiative itself appears flawed in such a way as to almost guarantee its failure. The initiative itself demands that $100,000 annually be paid to each of the 9 specified commissioners.

“The Commission shall have a duty to maintain the number of Commissioners at no less than nine and to fill vacancies promptly.”

Additionally, as many as 15 may be appointed:

“…and others to be appointed by majority vote of the Commission members to bring the Commission up to as many as 15 members”

These figures necessitate a base annual budget of $900,000 to $1,500,000, while the 5 year budget itself is quoted as $50 million.

Failure to raise this amount will allow the organizers of this event to essentially hold the initiative hostage, essentially shelving it for an indefinite period of time, and preventing its execution.

“The work of the Commission will commence upon the expected realization of the full funds specified in our anticipated budget.”

2 – The participation of Edgar Mitchell as a commissioner. Edgar Mitchell is a well-known advocate of the pseudo sciences, including his many public initiatives, writings and claims associated with UFOs, extraterrestrial ‘visitations’ and his personal experience with ESP/clairvoyance.

It is my opinion that the 9/11 Truth movement has already been negatively stigmatized by the mainstream media as a result of many of these advocates of pseudo-sciences and outlandish theories. The inclusion of a known UFO / clairvoyance advocate to the commission itself appears to be an intentional attempt to poison the well and associate 9/11 truth with tin-foil hat type conspiracy theorists.

3 – The participation and control of this initiative remains in the hands of a known 9/11 Truth disruptor who has explicitly and implicitly promoted the work of disruptors to this movement.

Examples:

Les Jamieson organized and sponsored events featuring the following guests and/or content:

• Judy Wood – advocate of the ‘space beams’ theory.
  
• Jim Fetzer – advocate of the ‘space beams’ theory, as well as many other discredited and debunked theories.
  
• Afred Webre – UFO advocate
  
• Nico Haupt – serial slanderer of 9/11 Truth activists, and promoter of the no-planes theory. Mr. Haupt is best known for highly inflammatory videos that include content accusing prominent 9/11 Truth activists of pedophilia, the use of excrement in conjunction with 9/11 imagery, slanderous accusations and innuendo, nazi imagery – including his self-proscribed persona NicoHitler. Mr. Haupt has also led disruptions and assaults of 9/11 activists at ground zero.
  
• Paula Gloria – promoter of Webfairy and Nico Haupt. Ms. Gloria was most recently invited by Les Jamieson to speak at St Marks church in NYC, despite her known reputation for posting/promoting the videos of self-described “transgression artists” that seeks to label prominent 9/11 Truth activists as members of a known Al Qaeda media cell. A recent video called for “the gassing of victim’s families.”
  
• Rick Siegel’s film “9/11 Eyewitness” during a live event featuring David Ray Griffin. This content was inserted into the program without the knowledge and approval of Dr. Griffin. Mr. Siegel is better known for his website 911Researchers.com which has been responsible for virulent attacks against victim’s family members and 9/11 Truth activists, while promoting no-planes theories, mini-nukes at the WTC and a virtual whose-who of 9/11 Truth disruptors and disinformation activists.
  
• Jimmy Walker, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, bestiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
  
• Webster Tarpley, who used the platform provided by Mr. Jamieson to accuse prominent 9/11 activists (e.g., Cosmos of 911TruthAction) of being terrorists and government agents. Photos of each activist were projected on a screen while Tarpley accused each of being Islamic terrorists / Chechen rebels and cointelpro activists. Mr. Jamieson – organizer of the event – present during these attacks – did nothing to halt the presentation – and has since offered no apologies to the activists slandered and defamed.
  
• The distribution and sale of the highly anti-Semitic magazine “Criminal Politics.” This magazine featured Dr. David Ray Griffin on its cover, with the headline accusing Jews of being responsible for the pedophile scandal in the Catholic church.
  
• Various debunked theories (pods under the plane, the hijackers are still alive, etc etc)
  

It seems incredible to me that such prominent activists as Jon Gold would YET AGAIN seek to give the benefit of the doubt, and the public spotlight, to Mr. Jamieson after the repeated disruptions and betrayal of our trust.

The idea that we should all rally behind an initiative that haslanguage contained therein inherently designed to financially stall a citizens’ investigation, while placing spokesperson powers and administrative powers in the hands of someone PROVEN to be untrustworthy is, frankly, irresponsible and unfathomable.

I want you all to consider the cost of failure. I want you all to consider the consequences of a high-profile 9/11 initiative, endorsed by many of our most high profile victim’s family groups and first responders, suddenly falling prey to the scrutinizing eyes of the media – with Mr. Jamieson in the spotlight representing their interests.

What are the stakes here?

Does your advocacy and support of this initiative protect it from those who seek to use it to shame and discredit us all? Just how?

Imagine this initiative passes and the media calls on the main contact – Les Jamieson – for an interview. Do you want him speaking for 9/11 Truth? Just HOW would Jon Gold PREVENT him from speaking and representing this initiative?

Jon Gold is disingenuous when he claims that TruthMove and WAC and ny911Truth are simply experiencing ‘bad blood’ over ‘history’ that he himself fails to define That is simply not intellectually honest.

Let me define that history for you. Many of us have DIRECTLY been attacked by those you now seek to indirectly empower to lead an investigation into 9/11. Many of us have been the target of virulent and vicious videos that label us AL Qaeda – including calls for violence against us – created and promoted by the VERY SAME PEOPLE LES JAMIESON INVITES TO HIS CHURCH TO REPRESENT THIS MOVEMENT.

UFO advocates? Anti-Semites? Space beams? no-planes on 9/11?

I guess some people never learn.

I cannot speak to what lies in the heart of Les Jamieson. At best he can be described as showing profoundly bad judgment – and is not to be trusted. At worst – it is intentional.

Neither is an acceptable option when considering a citizen’s investigation into 9/11.

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Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? Do we deserve to know how and why 9/11 happened?