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Submitted by art V on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 12:04am.

Mr. Tarply-
How could you? After gaining so much respect for you I have absolutely lost all of it in the last week. First the whole fiasco with the Kenenbunkport Warning. At first I was not really sure what to think. Who is lying who is not lying (we are always trying to figure this out WHO IS LYING), but after listening to your little outburst the other night and your assault on the great people at TRUTHACTION.ORG, I know who is lying.........it is you Mr. Tarply. Cosmos is the hardest working activist in this movement and how dare you call him cointelpro. That is bull shit Mr. Tarply you are lying.
You make me sick now, you got very personal with your attacks on Cosmos too. A scumbag move if I have ever seen one. If I may ask who do you really work for? What are your real intentions? Are you trying to divide the truth movement? What is all this talk I hear about LaRouche?
What a punk ass move slandering truthaction , 911blogger, Arabesque, Michael Wolsey, Col. Jenny Sparks and all the activists who contribute to TRUTHACTION.ORG. We do this for free and lose money doing it. You go on FAUX Noise and promote your book. It looks like you got caught with the K warning and you had to make up some story so you blamed it on TRUTHACTION.ORG, I guess to cover your ass.
You said that 2/3 of TRUTHACTION.ORG is dedicated to debunking the K warning. How long did you look at the site, 30 seconds? You forgot to mention all the pictures from all over the world of people taking action for 9/11 truth. You think this is a bad thing? You don't want people to stand up and take action on a monthly basis? I ask again....who do you really work for?
So now I think it is fairly obvious to the REAL truth seekers which side you are really on. You are trying to divide us at a very crucial time, a time when we needed you and you decided to spit in our face.
As a past/current contributor at TRUTHACTION.ORG I take your comments seriously and I will not forget what you said. I hope the hard working citizens contributing at TRUTHACTION continue to expose you for what you really are.

Art V

p.s.if you didn't hear the radio show here it is...about 2/3 of the way through
http://www.nw0.info/files/Radio/The%20Genesis%20World%20Report/2007/Sept...

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Thanks....

Art.

Submitted by Michael on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 9:52am.

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after re-reading what i

after re-reading what i posted it looks like i spelled tarpley's name wrong all over my blog....i was so mad at what he said i threw some words down and this is what came out...i never bought any of his books like i buy all of DRG's....i really dont feel bad

whichever you you spell it tarpley sucks

Submitted by art V on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 8:29pm.

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Still Waiting....

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Submitted by Galileo on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 11:49am.

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You keep doing that, luv...

and we'll continue to sort this.

BTW: it's called co-dependence. Just dump the bitch(Tarpley)already. ;-)

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Submitted by Col. Jenny Sparks on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 3:57pm.

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YOU provoked Tarpley to this. Tell us why YOU are not a shill.

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Submitted by John Leonard on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 4:02am.

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What the hell are you on about, you wee git?

"Earlier, when I asked your real identity, you said you don't remember."

Show us a link where I said this, luv.

You're turning out to be more of a nutter than Chippy. He swore up and down I told him I was a man, but was never able to give us a link. LOL!
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Submitted by Col. Jenny Sparks on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 5:54am.

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What is going on here?

I'm a fan of Tarpley, I've read 911 Synthetic Terror, this is the best book on 911 in my opinion. Why the hell is Tarpley bashing Cosmos and others? Honestly, does he have anything else to back up this claim other than a beard and a funny name? Tarpley, surely you need more evidence than this.

I don't know who to believe anymore. The only thing we can really be sure of is the message, not the messenger. But I would like to here other peoples take on this issue.

Submitted by metallus2 on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 2:18pm.

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yes...why is Tarply bashing

yes...why is Tarply bashing Cosmos.....and Arabesque is one of the best bloggers out there....it just does not make sens to me and i am very upset

Tarply has contributed a lot to this movement, but then again so did Fetzer and the more time passes it seems like these guys are working together with an alternative motive

COSMOS YOU ARE A TRUE PATRIOT THIS MOVEMENT OWES YOU A LOT...THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART

Submitted by art V on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 2:46pm.

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John Locke

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Submitted by Galileo on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 2:57pm.

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I'm with you on Locke

That's one of the points where I find Tarpley to be a bit weird. The Declaration of Independence borders on plagiarism of Locke. I'm also wondering what he means by "Machiavelli in the positive sense".

But I'm not arguing philosophy right now. I took the position that I do not know who is at fault and continued to defend that position in a discussion with "Arabesque". When I refused to take sides, and started presenting evidence which appears to support Tarpley's accusations, I was banned from the STJ911 forum. My final act of temerity was to ask if Michael Wolsey is related to James Wolsey.

Mind you, I also support the no Isalamakazi hijackers hypothesis. Instead I point to ICTS, ICT, Odigo, AMDOCS, Comverse Infosys, Urban Moving Systems, etc.

Remember the Maine!

Submitted by Epimanes on Tue, 09/11/2007 - 7:30am.

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Thanks Art V

The main point that I have been trying to emphasize is the personal attacks against Cindy Sheehan and the anti-war activists. The truth movement is stronger WITH the anti-war movement, not without it. The attacks and divisive language is uncalled for, and that is what I am objecting to most strongly. I do not know the full truth of this matter, but I do know that the anti-war activists have NOT attacked Tarpley.

"Each of us were approached during the rally at the Kennebunkport event on August 25, 2007, to sign a statement calling for the immediate impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney. Since then, the statement has been altered and posted on the internet, making it appear as if we have evidence that this administration will carry out a "false-flag terror operation."
None of us have such evidence, and therefore, none of us signed a statement stating that we do. We wish the authors of the document well in continuing much needed investigations of all aspects of 9/11.

Signed:
Jamilla El-Shafei
Cindy Sheehan
Dahlia Wasfi
Ann Wright"
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/26355

Edit:

To see what I mean about "divisiveness" read my post here:
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/09/webster-tarpley-arabesque-cosmo...

Submitted by Arabesque on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 11:59pm.

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Cheers, chum! ;-)

I think they might have bit off more than they could chew. And it wouldn't be the first time a deliberate disruptor appears to be clueless about on-line 9/11 reality.

Some of us are something like on-line celeberties--whether it's because of what we do, or what we say, or how often we're seen. If you're not really part of the Truth movement-or any particular movement--you won't have a feel for who's only a loud mouth and who's respected(or both!;-) ). There's only so much anaylizing figures will communicate. The rest you have to know by being "deep in". And make no mistake, we have those toss pots here at 911Blogger.

Thing is, doesn't look like these ops are centralized or Tarpley et al, would have known better. Or maybe they thought urgency was of the essence. In any case, their hand is WAY overplayed. And there is no going back.

Currently there's a clumsy attampt to call for healing, but here is only one way out of the fiasco for Tarpley et al--apologies all around.

Nothing less has a hope in hell of saving his credibility.
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Submitted by Col. Jenny Sparks on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 4:11pm.

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I tuned out Tarpley when e came on Fox

a while back and couldn't even get the most basic facts straight. He had a rare opportunity to go on national television, albeit Faux News, and make a credible case for 911truth. Instead, he discredited himself and, to some degree, this movement with his misstatement of fact (he claimed WTC7 had "no fires" for example) and the absurd proposition that John Kerry was talking about the WTC7 when he spoke of a "wall" having to brought down in a controlled fashion.

The whole John Kerry flap was one of the most discrediting spectacles ever and Tarpley was right in on it. On national television.

I'm always wary of anyone Fox thinks would make a good punching bad anyway. Fetzer comes to mind.

Submitted by metalious on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 5:27pm.

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Here's some inside

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Submitted by Galileo on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 6:20pm.

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Tarpley’s got a

Tarpley’s got an embarrassing history with Lyndon LaDouche that finally, I want to see him comment on. If he can't denounce that shill and account for his hopefully misguided time spent with him, I personally can no longer support Tarpley.

Submitted by Dem Bruce Lee Styles on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 7:48pm.

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...

http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/640?replies=2

im at the conference right now. tarpley just called cosmos, jenny sparks, arabesque, michael wolsey, and john gold all cointelpro. he even put pictures of some of these peopleup on the screen.

no one even murmured.

It's like WingTV all over again. Oh well, at least I'm in good company.

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Submitted by Jon Gold on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 8:20pm.

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time to get stronger

Submitted by art V on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 10:23pm.

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Do you know...

What the sad thing is in all of this (one thing of many)? When the "Kennebunkport Warning" was considered to be legitimate, I posted it on my site. It wasn't until that legitimacy was questioned that I took it down.

I wasn't about to promote something that could be so easily used against us. I just wasn't going to do it.

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Submitted by Jon Gold on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 10:27pm.

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i completely agree...the

i completely agree...the whole thing was so confusing i have trouble spelling the damn thing

Submitted by art V on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 10:53pm.

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Les' Description Of Webster's Talk

"Webster Tarpley had a new slide show with his views on current political reality mixed with a good dose of humor."

I don't find what he did funny at all. From the "Kennebunkport Warning" to the "outing" of "COINTELPRO."

Edit: Michael Wolsey interviews Dahlia Wasfi.

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Submitted by Jon Gold on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 8:03pm.

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Priorities

Tarpley has overplayed his very weak hand. He will never again achieve the prestige or respect he once had. Quite the opposite. When folks do psychological evaluations, they base them primarily upon a history of currently observed and past behavior. When folks determine who to believe and who not believe, they function the same way. Tarpley's and the KW folks' behavior is now 'on the record'. Always available to be re-reviewed. And it will always be the damning evidence that identifies the point in time when a once respected spokesperson for a movement revealed he cared nothing for it. In his arrogance he could not rise above his own ego to do the right thing. That his own agenda, whatever it may eventually be seen to have been, took precedence over the goals of 9/11 Truth. And took priority over the needs of the nation. Sad for him. Saddening for us.

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Submitted by medicis on Sat, 09/08/2007 - 11:10pm.

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Cosmos is the real deal.

Cosmos has pretty much dedicated his entire life to 9/11 Truth. Hundreds if not thousands of people can testify to the amazing work he has done and continues to do. Anyone making such accusations against him is a complete ass hat, end of story.

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Submitted by operator kos on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 2:58am.

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I agree!

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Submitted by u2r2h on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 4:49pm.

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HA! funny... -- 11/11 Never

HA! funny...
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Submitted by imgstacke on Sun, 09/09/2007 - 5:46pm.

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Who is this disinfo twerp who sent a note to Tarpley...?!

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I swear the Portland disinfo/disruptor crowd certainly likes to spin its wheels. Check out this garbage I was copied on, where a known disruptor obviously has nothing better to do in the 911 Activism world than create some friction/controversy...
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Thanks for all you've done!
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:46:40 +0000
From: Jerry Jordan
To: tarpley@
CC: Styve, Marsh

Hi, Mr. Tarpley! Thank you for all you've done to help expose 911 truth.

I read your book Synthetic Terror. I know it helped me get into 911Truth and learn everything I wouldn't have from the MSM.

I was wondering if you could get someone to help us out here in Portland. No one will take the Kennebunkport Warning with the seriousness that it deserves because of all the disruptors spreading their disinfo.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/08/364216.shtml?discuss
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/08/364309.shtml?discuss
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/09/364506.shtml?discuss

As you can see eveyone's all "Hoax! Hoax! Hoax!". I'm very concerned about an imminent false flag event and I don't think these people realize how much danger we're in until it's too late! And these brave people who signed the warning shouldn't be slandered by the liars.

At 911Blogger a local activist Styve has been working hard but to no avail;

http://www.911blogger.com/node/11055#comment-159561

911blogger seems to be firmly on the side of the pro hoaxers.:(

Maybe you could talk to the local Oregon Truth Alliance? They could have you come and speak or something. Anything to stop another 9/11!

I think Styve is a member of the OTA and can help you out. Hope I got the right one! He's done so much out on the streets to promote the Truth, writing on Indy Media and stuff. Hope I'm not being too forward but this is so important I think it's worth the risk!

In case you might be too busy(you must get hundreds of emails a day!) I'm also sending this to Bruce Marshall. I know he's been trying to help too.

Thank you again for everything!

JJordan

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What a load of insincere shit, and to what end, I do not know! JJordan...keep fighting your fight online, and leave us alone, please.

Other members of the Portland 911 Truth community have received harassing, or disruptive bullshit from this person, and Indymedia has indicated that he has been kicked out of every activist group that they know of, for disruptive antics.

Bottom line...the GOP is getting desperate to put down the 911 Truth Movement, and I wouldn't doubt they would use Martial Law to do so. Casseia had some inane shit to say about my improper use of BushCo and GOP, so she can explain if she feels it is pertinent.

Styve

Submitted by Styve on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 12:01am.

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Very funny that one of his links claims Fraud on Tarpley!!

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Submitted by Styve on Mon, 09/10/2007 - 12:56am.

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Why don't you make a blog of this evidence...

And post it here at 911Blogger?

This should be good value.

I'm off for some kip. Expect to see that blog when I get back, guv.;-)

EDIT: did myself a lookup--you really shouldn't have too much of a problem seeing our side:

"... I happen to agree that Tarpley's writing style has drawbacks, but not for the same reasons as you do. I believe he is too verbally abusive of people who probably don't warrant it."

http://www.911blogger.com/node/10772#comment-158153

Cheers!
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