Video Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
Osama bin Laden dead: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
www.telegraph.co.uk
The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.
By Steven Swinford 10:25PM BST 04 May 2011
Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the US special forces was cut off.
A photograph released by the White House appeared to show the President and his aides in the situation room watching the action as it unfolded. In fact they had little knowledge of what was happening in the compound.
In an interview with PBS, Mr Panetta said: "Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn't know just exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments as we were waiting for information.
"We had some observation of the approach there, but we did not have direct flow of information as to the actual conduct of the operation itself as they were going through the compound."
Mr Panetta also told the network that the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president.
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Staged: White House “Situation Room” Photos Part Of Bin Laden Fa
In addition to images of President Obama’s address to the American public on Sunday night, it has emerged that the dramatic photos of Obama, Biden, Hillary Clinton and members of the White House security team watching the assassination of Bin Laden “live” were in fact completely staged, casting further doubt on the ever-changing official account of the operation.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/staged-white-house-situation-room-photos-part-of-bin-laden-fable.html
Prison planet is not a news
Prison planet is not a news source. I'm a little disappointed in you Orangutan. Stop biting on this Bin Laden fakery stuff, it's hurting us. Please trust me, it's hurting us seriously. I want to unite with you and others, but I'm going to have to push back hard for as long as it takes to get us focused on the right issues.
Spread the News. Be the Media.
Spread this link http://www.RememberBuilding7.org as much as you can.
And I think keeping up with the ever changing story of Bin Laden's death is worth our time. Especially documenting the inconsistencies and changes in it.
I am with you 100%
I am with you 100%
I do spread info about
I do spread info about building 7, but this isn't about me. I'm trying to help you, I'm trying tol get you to see what a reliable news source is and is not, and I want you to personally believe that AJ is not appropriate to distribute to the public and I want you to stop spreading his material because YOU believe that, not me. Please reconsider what you believe about him if you have not already done so.
I agree.
Bin Laden fakery info, whether true or false is hurtful to our movement.
I think the POINT is that the twin towers did not "collapse" but were blown up, from the top down to within a few seconds of absolute free fall. But there again, no one wants to talk about the twin towers, assuming it is beneficial for the movement only to talk exclusively about building 7.
Failure to address the absolutely obvious CD of the twin towers, the crux of the psy-op, and now insisting that Bin Laden was long dead already, doesn't help the movement of our movement.
My next question is this,
My next question is this, “why has it taken 4 days to let us know you actually weren’t watching what you said you were watching?”
http://norcaltruth.org/2011/05/05/u-b-l-story-changes-again-no-live-feed-due-to-blackout/
And the suspense on Clintons face? Just allergies.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/clinton_says_she_has_no_idea_what_was_happening_when_iconic_white_house_photo_was_shot/2011/05/05/AFqqcRvF_story.html?wprss=rss_politics
Out of probably dozens if not hundreds of photos, they chose to highlight the one where Hillary is about to sneeze. OK.
Granted, it is an amazing photo.
Beacuse they are surely looking at something, this photo must not have been taken during the "blackout" in my opinion.
Hillary says, "she doesn't remember what she was looking at in that photo".
But there was a blackout for 20-25 minutes during a 40 minute raid according to Panetta. So Hillary doesn't know what she was watching during a 15-20 minute period when these photos were taken, and she still says it was the most intense 38 minutes of her life? OK
Fine. Everything you officials say is true is true, until you say it is not and give me a new truth. OK.
And now...."We won't offer any more operational details on U.B.L. Raid"
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/white-house-no-more-operational-details-about-obl-killing.php
OK
I think I have their story straight now, do you?
computers in photo
and if you look closely you see all of the computers are off . these guys are total idiots, but since they own the media it doesnt matter
Bollocks
If you're in IT, as I am, you know that conference rooms and operational rooms (such as the Sit Room) have standard computers available and ready for use. That doesn't mean they have to be used. What does your mental world look like? You expect Secretary Clinton, super gaffe machine Joe Biden and SecDef Gates to be rattling away on some laptop during a special operation? Most people in leadership positions of their age are complete morons when it comes to IT, have their assistants do everything for them and then take the credit for it themselves. You know, like the people who are standing and don't get a seat.
The laptop in the lower right corner appears to be on: albeit in sleep mode. I'm not sure of that but it looks like it. The laptops are connected to wired LAN. The brand is HP.
There is a burn bag in between Biden and Obama. Hillary Clinton carries a ring binder on her lap that says: TOP SECRET CODEWORD NOFORN. (NOFORN means, not for foreign allies, only for US citizens) Below that it says: "FOR USE IN WHITE HOUSE SITUATION ROOM ONLY". On the laptop she's not using lies a printout of an aerial photo of Bin Laden's hideout. The other is obscured. That might be the Pakistan Military Academy. Who knows.
Brigadier General Marshal B. Webb is seated between Obama and Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough. He appears to be actually doing something besides gawking at the screen, and he appears to have brought his own laptop; something that rings familiar too, because upper management usually gets something better for themselves than standard issue, which lags behind on upgrades. Plus, upper management types like special, privileged treatment and try to break protocol and rules for themselves as much as possible. Plus I'm not sure the White House and the Pentagon have the exact same IT policies and hardware.
There are other (pretty boring) things I've found, but I'm having far too much fun with it to tell, and risk not having that much fun again.
You were saying? Do you ever get tired of believing in bollocks? Sorry for being harsh, but I have my belly full of the utter nonsense and claptrap being promoted on this otherwise wonderful site right now.
Read this and please snap out of it
Finnish Broadcasting Corporation...
... interviews a visual journalism researcher who also seriously questions the authenticity of that very picture:
http://yle.fi/alueet/tampere/2011/05/tutkija_epailee_obama-kuvan_aitoutta_2566035.html
"The picture appears staged and having been planned for months", says Anssi Männistö, a visual journalism expert at the University of Tampere.
Body 10 years old, 10 helmet cams malfunctioned, PMA cooperated
Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 of Marfan Syndrome. His body was on ice, to be brought out when politically needed. The DNA was Bin Laden's, but the body was about 10 years old. So it could not be inspected independently nor shown to the public.
Helmet cam videos of the attack raid are too hard to fake, and will not be shown. How many soldiers were there, 10? So all 10 helmet cams malfunctioned at the same time?
Pakistan Military Academy and Pakistan leaders, who have let US drones kill political rivals, cooperated in the hoax, to let the US win a face-saving victory, and hopefully leave the area.
Questions about Bin Laden's wives and kids
If the Bin Laden Lynching Raid at the "mansion" was staged, we need to figure out who the "wife" and kids really were.
Have there been any DNA tests on the kids? Will there be?
Probably not, to keep them in custody and "protect them" from the lime light. So they have a plausible reason for not letting anyone independently verify who they were. We just have to accept their story.
What mother would want herself and her kids to be around:
* the most wanted man on Earth, who was in constant danger of just such an attack?
* What wife would want to sleep with a man twice her age? .
* What wife would want to share him with other wives and sleep with him once a week?
At least Hugh Hefner can take them out and spend money on them.
Bin Laden could not go anywhere, have a bank account in his name, or use a credit card.
* An un-armed lady "rushes" a soldier with body armor, and he has to shoot her in the legs?
* What could a lady do to hurt a Navy SEAL?
* The wife who was shot, reports when sleeping with Bin Laden she still felt alone, so the love making was not even good.
* Did the kids get home schooling? If they went do school, did teachers ask about their parents?
* Next door neighbors didn't know Bin Laden was there?
* Bin Laden kids never went out to play with neighbor kids?
* They were happy, with no internet? Doing what?
The whole story does not make sense.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42900591/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/t/mystery-surrounds-bin-laden-wife-wounded-raid/
People unarmed
Quote :
« My next question is this, “why has it taken 4 days to let us know you actually weren’t watching what you said you were watching?”
Pakistani security officials said on Thursday. Said : « "The people inside the house were unarmed. There was no resistance,"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/05/us-binladen-pakistan-raid-idUSTRE7442NW20110505
It is not possible to show to the American public, the images of the commando killing people inside the house if these people were unarmed . This may explain why “there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound”.
Does the American public understands that if Osama Bin Laden was the real leader of the terrorist organization Al Qaeda, it would have been normally logical to capture and interrogate him in an American prison located in Afghanistan, for example, in order to get from him information allowing to arrest the other members of Al Qaeda'organisation, Ayman al-Zawahiri in particular ?
Tit2 France
Exactly
"Does the American public understands that if Osama Bin Laden was the real leader of the terrorist organization Al Qaeda, it would have been normally logical to capture and interrogate him in an American prison located in Afghanistan, for example, in order to get from him information allowing to arrest the other members of Al Qaeda'organisation, Ayman al-Zawahiri in particular ?"
If Osama was there, especially unarmed, why kill such a treasure trove of hugely valuable information?
That is what anyone with half a brain should be wondering about.
It makes one laugh when they - after killing him - say that they'll start to investigate what he has been up to for the last several years.
Is this not a good question?
"If Osama was there, especially unarmed, why kill such a treasure trove of hugely valuable information?"
Why the negative vote? I'm interested in knowing.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20110505/WIRE/110509711/1350?p=4&tc=pg
The White House is exempt from FOIA, so the law wouldn't apply if the images are controlled there. The CIA, which had operational control of the mission, and the Defense Department can use a series of exemptions from the act to block release of the images.
The Associated Press on Monday requested through the FOIA photos of bin Laden's body as well as other materials, including video taken by military personnel during the raid and on the USS Carl Vinson, the ship that conducted bin Laden's burial in the North Arabian Sea. The government has 20 days to respond to a FOIA request.
The Obama administration has pledged to be the most transparent government in U.S. history and to comply much more closely with the Freedom of Information Act than the Bush administration did.
Ultimately, the issue could wind up in federal court.
"I think that it's going to be a hard road," Hodes said. "It's not inconceivable that a court is going to say to release them. But I think the government will fight because it's made its decision."