The Washington Post: A leading Japanese politician espouses a 9/11 fantasy

The only good thing about 9/11 is to see brave figures rising, like Fujita, Gage, Jones, Jersey Girls & many others restoring the face of truth. This article can be one of those defining examples of how influential media are sabotage a serious and fact based discussion about what happened on September 11, 2001. The presentation of an authoritative and genuine politician from Japan, who risks his neck for the sake of truth.
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Title: A leading Japanese politician espouses a 9/11 fantasy
Source: The Washington Post
Url: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/07/AR2010030702354.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

YUKIHISA FUJITA is an influential member of the ruling Democratic Party of Japan. As chief of the DPJ's international department and head of the Research Committee on Foreign Affairs in the upper house of Japan's parliament, to which he was elected in 2007, he is a Brahmin in the foreign policy establishment of Washington's most important East Asian ally. He also seems to think that America's rendering of the events of Sept. 11, 2001, is a gigantic hoax.

Mr. Fujita's ideas about the attack on the World Trade Center, which he shared with us in a recent interview, are too bizarre, half-baked and intellectually bogus to merit serious discussion. He questions whether it was really the work of terrorists; suggests that shadowy forces with advance knowledge of the plot played the stock market to profit from it; peddles the fantastic idea that eight of the 19 hijackers are alive and well; and hints that controlled demolition rather than fire or debris may be a more likely explanation for at least the collapse of the building at 7 World Trade Center, which was adjacent to the twin towers.

As with almost any calamity whose scale and scope assume historic proportions, the events of Sept. 11 have spawned a thriving subculture of conspiracy theorists at home and abroad. The only thing novel about Mr. Fujita is that a man so susceptible to the imaginings of the lunatic fringe happens to occupy a notable position in the governing apparatus of a nation that boasts the world's second-largest economy.

We have no reason to believe that Mr. Fujita's views are widely shared in Japan; we suspect that they are not and that many Japanese would be embarrassed by them. His proposal two years ago that Tokyo undertake an independent investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks, in which 24 Japanese citizens died, went nowhere. Nonetheless, his views, rooted as they are in profound distrust of the United States, seem to reflect a strain of anti-American thought that runs through the DPJ and the government of Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama.
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Mr. Hatoyama, elected last summer, has called for a more "mature" relationship with Washington and closer ties between Japan and China. Although he has reaffirmed longstanding doctrine that Japan's alliance with the United States remains the cornerstone of its security, his actions and those of the DPJ-led government, raise questions about that commitment. It's a cliche but nonetheless true that the U.S.-Japan alliance has been a critical force for stability in East Asia for decades. That relationship, and its benefits for the region, will be severely tested if Mr. Hatoyama tolerates elements of his own party as reckless and fact-averse as Mr. Fujita.

These jokers got clobbered in their own comments page

Fred Hiatt
Editorial Page Editor

Jackson Diehl
Deputy Editorial Page Editor

Autumn Brewington
Op-Ed Editor

Jo-Ann Armao
Robert Asher
Jonathan Capehart
Lee Hockstader
Charles Lane
Ruth Marcus
Eva Rodriguez
Editorial Writers

and here:

here

Sent message to all

Thanks for the links.

In my message, I e.g. contrasted WaPo's coverage of the issue with that of the Washington Times:

"Explosive News"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/22/inside-the-beltway-70128...

Let's sow the seeds of some journalistic competition.

Brilliant! So did I!

Brilliant! So did I!

Payback time!

I'd suggest it's high time for us to give something back to Mr. Fujita. He stood up for the cause in his senior position, he informed his peers and he pushed the japanese gov. (when he was in opposition) during now famous televised parliamentary interpelations on the 9/11 evidence. His efforts seemed to be always more about the truth and evidence than cheap political gestures.

This is clearly a lame attempt by WP (and Langley hairbrainers) to put some presure on Fujita's political party and peers at home via nominally "respected" D.C. publication. We should help diffuse it by any creative means possible. One could be contacting journalism or ethics dept. on major universities,
showing it as textbook propaganda example, name calling, not focusing on the evidence/material presented by Fujita etc.

This recent WP hit piece is as almost stupid as any pointed editorial propaganda written in totalitarian countries of the world. We can leave it as open gate for the curious minds out there to actually use it as jump board to their own investigation. On the otherhand we can also put some pressure on the editorial board of the WP, because this is evidently beyond substandard yellow journalism performance. Yes, they might pre-filter your complaining phone calls, most of your email or snaimail complaints might go directly to a bin. But I think it's still worthy to launch a campaign against WP on this article. The buck must stop here.
Thanks

Major Media Propaganda Rag

The major corporate media exists for apparently one primary reason - to shape and steer public opinion in the interest of its corporate owners and allies, not to report information.

The establishement seem very concerned about alternative public opinion of 9/11, likely because 9/11 is a major cornerstone of their ongoing domestic and international agendas, not because skeptics of the official story are wrong.

Very well stated!

Like "radio free Europe" during the cold war, we now have the paradox of "internet free Americas" during the PNAC war.

Comments are not enough!

Yes article comments, however beyond ridiculing the editors and showing their true colors, these are a bit pointless, usually used only for channeling opinions/emotions away.

We should embrace other more long-term methods, distributing the article widely to critically thinking public and the tiny pockets of restspectfull journalist out there as a study case..

For instance, the issue of timing!?, Fujita has had come out years ago! this is quite important, they are either too afraid to cover directly the 9/11 truth conferences, so they just smear here and there haphazzardly, or this was more coordinated effort alongside that recent weirdo shooting at Pentagon, Ahmadeenejad etc.

channel our emotions away?

If we didn't channel some of our emotions away - would that make things better or worse?

(I don't know the answer to this one).

As we know, shills are on the job

Interesting comment:

"kathleennathan wrote:
darrylmason wrote: You're very dedicated to your work, FrankIBC. Almost 100 comments posted over an incredible 15 straight hours, and counting, with your longest pause between commenting coming in at about 40 minutes ...."

And Frank|BC did not cease his work at that point either, since he chose to ignore his outing as a shill and continue to post bull.

Yeah, it's easy to guess which ones are paid

by the sheer prolific nature of their posting.

There was one shill on Amazon I dealt with who posted prolifically, but only between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. After that, deafening silence until the next morning.

Is it just me, or...

Has 9/11 Truth just bifurcated into a whole new realm of dialogue, both globally and in the USA. Seems it's suddenly everywhere all at once, the taboo subject going mainstream. What is interesting is how the more it's attacked the faster it moves, since stories on it, compell those who haven't done so already, to investigate it, and as we know, there's a fire hydrant of information out there, and it's a one way street, where people do not tend to ride the fence and once they've changed their mind, don't tend to change it back again. It must be the fastest growing social movement right now in the world. I also find it interesting that the 9/11 Truth Movement actually gave birth to that Tea Party Movement we've been hearing so much about. We started that, when we and a bunch of Ron Paul supporters went to the Boston harbor and dumped 9/11 Commission Reports into the water.

Good work everyone. Keep it up, we're making headway, big time - and so history, looking back, will begin to get this thing straightened out, for the sake of learning, truth, and justice.
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911 Truth has arrived

What comes next? Most likely the powers that be will use their control of the media to frame the public's perception. They will decide how they want to use 9-11 Truth for their own agenda i.e. blame and demonize the U.S. in order to prop up an 'international' solution.

That's why you should give Alex Jones credit for always talking about the big picture view of the power elite's agenda(s). It may be time for all of us to speak about the deep involvement in 9-11 by Israel and international bankers so as to prevent the public from so readily accepting the solution proposed by the same.

Keep talking about the New World Order.

With you in the struggle,
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A VERY courageous suggestion.

Israel ...FINALLY

Maybe the time just wasn't right but, until now, dicussions involving the Israeli government and Zionism have been disallowed, if not censored, here. I hope the time is right, now, because the two things are completely and inextricably intertwined.

Out of respect for the deep personal sensitivities that I've perceived on the part of several members here, I've steered clear of discussing either in my comments. But, it is no more an indicator of bigotry, racism, or hate speech to talk about these topics than it is unpatriotic to want truth about 9/11.

** It's not anti-semitic to discuss and/or criticize the Israeli government/Zionism. It's anti-semitic NOT to! Zionism is the REAL enemy of the Jews.

My initial work began with 911 Truth. I originally thought that it was the lynch pin to discovering/understanding the larger picture. But, just like "the light came on" for me one day about 9/11, the same thing occurred for me about Israel/Zionism. THAT's the REAL lynchpin. In both cases, I was spitting angry for being fool enough to fall for the propaganda of either of them, let alone both. I now work in two movements.

Just as a critical mass is quickly being reached by those waking up to 911 truth, the same is happening concurrently with Israel/Zionism. Not surprisingly, as both feel the terror of losing control of their "story," the more desperate and foolish their acts and statements and stooges become.

I agree with the commenter who stated that "anti" articles like this one do more for the movement than many "pro" things that we might do. We should thank these poor souls, as we owe them a deep debt of gratitude for their unintentional assistance.

bbruhwiler8, I hope that, as a major player at this blog, you will kick open this door and continue leading the way. Just as so many here bemoan the fact that the peace movement hasn't been able to - or won't - embrace the 911Truth movement, blind to the critical connection they share, the same is true for 911Truth and the movement working to "out" Zionism and their puppetmaster, The House of Rothschild.

Important things are worth repeating, so here goes:

It's not anti-semitic to discuss and/or criticize the Israeli government/Zionism.

It's anti-semitic NOT to!

Zionism is the REAL enemy of the Jews.

I have no problem at all

I have no problem at all with discussing evidence that points to Israeli involvement in 9/11. I do have a problem with trying to hijack the movement toward a political agenda that not all of us share. I'm not accusing you of that, but I've certainly seen this tendency.

I don't think it's as simple as saying, "The Zionists did it." There are many forces that drive history. Sometimes these forces converge, sometimes they conflict. I believe that 9/11 was a convergence of the interests of various sectors of the global ruling elite. Certainly 9/11 served the interests of right-wing zionism. But it also served the interests of many Christian Euro-Americans. And a sector of the Saudi Arabian ruling class. And the Pakistani regime.

I do believe that committed ideological zionists within the U. S. government were central in the planning and execution of 9/11. But it was a partnership of devils, and we should never allow our movement to be steered toward the contempt of one devil over another.

Amen

Couldn't have said it better!
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Absolutely, Bruno

> Keep talking about the New World Order.

Absolutely!

Cause 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB WITH OUTSIDE HELP, PLOTTED BY ILLUMINATI!!

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I think that the obsession

I think that the obsession with the "New World Order" is detrimental. It's a vague, speculative term that attempts to describe a unifying paradigm that links a broad range of actual State Crimes Against Democracy with wildly speculative (and unproven) ones. I also believe that it reflects a certain ideological tendency that attempts to inject a particular political agenda into our movement.

This is from the Feb. issue of American Behavioral Scientist:

"The SCAD construct is designed to move beyond the debilitating, slipshod, and scattershot speculation of conspiracy theories by focusing inquiry on patterns in elite political criminality that reveal systemic weaknesses, institutional rivalries, and illicit networks." (Lance deHaven-Smith, "Beyond Conspiracy Theory: Patterns of High Crime in American Government" Feb. 2010 American Behavioral Scientist)

Whenever I find people attempting to point out the ultimate puppet-masters, they always seem to bring "debilitating, slipshod, and scattershot speculation" into the discussion.

The reason our movement has advanced is because of the meticulous work of scientists, like Steven Jones, and sober professionals like Richard Gage.

"PLOTTED BY ILLUMINATI!!!"

sounds legit...

You got me missing the downvote button, sugar. ;)
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My curiosity was piqued

in November (or December) 2004 when early activist Jimmy Walter was ridiculed by Geraldo on Fox News in what was no more than a 3 minute hit piece.

Prior to that night, I was already pretty anti-war and anti-Bush administration policy, and the first time I watched Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 (which espouses the "incompetence" theory but does very well document how the administration seized on the event to further a political agenda), it practically seemed like a religious experience. However, I still accepted that 19 hijackers caused all of the destruction.

If a 3 minute hit piece could arouse the curiosity of yours truly, imagine how many people have begun to question 9/11 thanks to the Washington Times article, Jesse Ventura's 9/11 episode, the CBC Fifth Estate program, etc.

The ripple effect is spreading far and wide.

It sure is spreading fast now

and it's a one way street, as your experience shows.

What I find interesting, is that every member of Congress was given A&E4911T's Petition, signed by 1000 Professionals. That they are doing nothing about it, would suggest that they are prepared to allow themselves to be corrupted and participate in Misprision of Treason, rather than look into it and face the truth, no matter how horrific.

It is their inaction which is hurting the USA, not the information - it's the cover up and the spin which is the problem now both for them and a complicit and controlled MSM as the propaganda arm of various government agencies including the CIA.

This thing appears to be sweeping the globe now, as history looks back with near 20/20 hindsight.
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The Cover-up is being Uncovered

at a faster rate than ever before now.. And information, including hard evidence for govt. complicity is being disseminated by agents for truth in places like the NY Times, CNN, and Washington Post. How many curiosity seekers are now googling Building 7, perusing AE911Truth or the Patriots site? How many are now aware of the Jersery Girls and Bob Mac... and nanothermite?

Not only is their mud not sticking, but it's backfiring-- like a karmic boomerang. This is a harbinger for more disclosure and more desperation on the part of the perps and their lapdogs. Their desperation will become ever more obvious, and their attempts to smear will further backfire as we disseminate, enlighten, and enlist converts to truth on a global basis.

We need to step up the Misprision of Treason campaign now.

i was surprised to see geraldo. . .

. . . give effective air time to alex jones, as world911truth posted here earlier today. geraldo (who in the 70s brought the zapruder film to television) and bill maher (who got fired from abc for saying something "politically incorrect" about 9/11) are the most disappointing of the mainstream press corps. you'd think they'd know better. wondering if they can ever be won over.

even more surprising ...

was the comparative lack of sneering, mock incredulity in geraldo's interview w/ Alex - there was almost a hint of respect toward AJ from the msm frontman

WaPo; libelous and treasonous

I hope Fujita sues. I posted this as a comment and sent it to the letters editor and the ombudsman at this mockingbird rag:

letters@washpost.com,
ombudsman@washpost.com

the Washington Post said, "Mr. Fujita's ideas about the attack on the World Trade Center, which he shared with us in a recent interview, are too bizarre, half-baked and intellectually bogus to merit serious discussion. He questions whether it was really the work of terrorists; suggests that shadowy forces with advance knowledge of the plot played the stock market to profit from it; peddles the fantastic idea that eight of the 19 hijackers are alive and well; and hints that controlled demolition rather than fire or debris may be a more likely explanation for at least the collapse of the building at 7 World Trade Center, which was adjacent to the twin towers."

The question is not whether there were terrorists; it's who the terrorists were. The WaPo suggests that anyone questioning the official 9/11 conspiracy theory is part of a "lunatic fringe", and that normal, responsible people simply accept what the public has been told about 9/11; i.e., that the attacks were solely the responsibility of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, and that the Bush Administration and US intelligence and defense establishment just "couldn't connect the dots," despite the great body of public evidence which contradicts that claim.

Does the Washington Post editor really believe the 9/11 Commission Report is credible? The Commissioners and half their staff had political, profession, personal and/or financial conflicts of interest, most notably the Executive Director Philip Zelikow, who, in addition to other conflicts, had co-authored a book with Condoleezza Rice, served on Bush's NSC transition team from Clinton, created an outline of the Commission's final report prior to the investigation beginning, was an architect of the pre-emptive war strategy, and after the 9/11 Commission took a position working with Rice in the Bush Administration. The Commission accepted at face value statements from interested parties such as GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, JCS Chairman Richard Myers and others in the FAA, NORAD, FBI and CIA, and in some of its most critical passages used testimony that was obtained by torture from accused 9/11 participants. The 9/11 Commission interviewed Bush and Cheney together; not under oath; for just over 3 hrs; the session was not recorded; and Commissioner's notes were subject to review and confiscation. What honest person can accept w/o question an investigation so obviously compromised?
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timelin...

Regarding reports of insider trading; the 9/11 Commission relegated these issues to an endnote, glibly dismissed them w/o presenting verifiable evidence, and begged the question by claiming that the entities making the few trades they addressed had "no conceivable connection to Al Qaeda." In addition to the highly publicized put options (in over 30 companies, in addition to AAL and UAL), the Federal Reserve increased the money supply shortly before 9/11, there was a massive increase in the purchase of Treasury Bonds shortly before 9/11, including a single $5 billion trade in early September 2001, and during the attacks there were hundreds of millions of dollars in illegal transactions being run out of the World Trade Center. Investigations into all of these things were snuffed out prior to the 9/11 Commission's investigation. See here for more info:
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timelin...

The cases of stolen identity, double agents, doppelgangers and photos matching people who turned up alive after 9/11 protesting their innocence have in some, but not all, cases been resolved, which naturally leads to questions about who the hijackers really were, whether the US govt has accused the right people, and why there haven't been legitimate answers to the questions re: identity. See here for more info:
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091601stillalive#a091601...

Regarding the destruction of WTC 1, 2 and 7: in Section 6.14.4 of NCSTAR 1, NIST admitted that the Twin Towers collapsed "essentially in free fall." Nowhere in the entire report does NIST actually explain how 15-30 stories of building mass were able to completely crush the lower 80-95 stories; they simply assert that "global collapse" happened.
http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/

In its report on WTC 7, NIST admitted that there was "a freefall descent over approximately eight stories at gravitational acceleration for approximately 2.25 s" (48)
http://wtc.nist.gov/NCSTAR1/PDF/NCSTAR%201A.pdf

However, it's obvious from watching videos that WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition, and that NIST's claim that office fires caused girder expansion, leading to the failure of a single column and that this failure brought down the entire building in the exact manner of a controlled demolition is "bizarre, half-baked and intellectually bogus."
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/videos/index.html#building7

See here for many more reasons to question the "bizarre, half-baked and intellectually bogus" official 9/11 'conspiracy theory', and to question the Washington Post's motivations in publishing such a blatantly disingenuous and libelous editorial:

The Top 40
http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

And see The Complete 9/11 Timeline at HistoryCommons.org for a comprehensive overview of events leading up to, on and after 9/11, without the spin applied by mockingbird media such as the Washington Post:
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

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very cool. . .

. . . i do think it's a good idea to have these kinds of replies at the ready for posting responses etc. on the mainstream press websites. i posted this on the wa post comments page:

"nice work! not only are 911 truthers into "fantasy" but they are very dangerous also. see evidence here
http://www.infowars.com/proof-that-911-truthers-are-dangerous/."

Is this the fight stage?

The Japanese are honourable people and the current government was elected by the population because it was a "change" to the blindly following the US predecessor and they will honour that!

Yuki's fellow politicians are educated on these matters and they have stayed out of it because of their relationship with the US and that they consider it "their" business. If the US makes it an issue Japan may just react with the truth....now this may be where it gets very interesting indeed.

Please support Fujita with comments and words of support as he is a very brave and honourable man.

Kind regards John

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It becomes more interesting

It becomes more interesting every day. When influencial papers decide to personally attack high profiled politicians from allied countries, than you know that the water is hot. So, let it be hot. It amazes me that they (The Washington Post) don't have the taste and manners to treat this honorable man with the tact and decency he deserves. I mean, how discourteous can you be after recently being host of this man who gave you that interview? Is the Glenn Beck fever moving towards Washington Post's intellectuals?

Deterrent effect

I would think that ridicule is something that no one wants to be subjected to no matter what culture they're from. The Post is probably hoping to rattle him, hope that their 'coverage' of him gets negative play in the press back in Japan, so that either he will want to have nothing more to do with 9/11 truth, or be effectively turned into the Cynthia McKinney of Japan, thereby serving as a cautionary example to other government figures, not only in Japan but around the world, to get them to think twice lest they ever feel like speaking up about 9/11.

Lets hope not!

Yuki has extended his neck for all of us, so lets hope and pray that luck favours the brave:)

Kind regards John

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Applause to the fine character of Mr. Fujita!!

Regarding our friend from Japan, this Einstein quote applies...

ALBERT EINSTEIN: "Great spirits will always encounter violent opposition from mediocre minds."

The most severe form of learning disorders are owned by those that "already know everything."

Brilliant!

Cheers John

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questions about supporters of OCT

I was just on a CNN comment board where I made a challenge for anybody to come up with a list of 10 qualified and credible people who support the OCT. Remarkably, someone finally took the challenge and provided the following list (copied verbatim)
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* Farid Alfawakhiri, Ph.D. senior engineer, American Institute of Steel Construction
* David Biggs, P.E. structural engineer, Ryan-Biggs Associates; member, ASCE team for FEMA report
* Robert Clarke structural engineer, Controlled Demolitions Group Ltd.
* Glenn Corbett technical editor, Fire Engineering; member, NIST advisory committee
* Vincent Dunn deputy fire chief (Ret.), FDNY; author, The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety
* John Fisher, Ph.D. professor of civil engineering, Lehigh University; professor emeritus, Center for Advanced Technology; member, FEMA Probe Team
* Ken Hays executive vice president, Masonry Arts
* Christoph Hoffmann, Ph.D. professor of computer science, Purdue University; project director, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University
*Allyn E. Kilsheimer, P.E. CEO, KCE Structural Engineers PC; chief structural engineer, Phoenix project; expert in blast recovery, concrete structures, emergency response
* Won-Young Kim, Ph.D. seismologist, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University
* William Koplitz photo desk manager, FEMA
* John Labriola freelance photographer, WTC survivor
* Arthur Lerner-Lam, Ph.D. seismologist; director, Earth Institute, Center for Hazards and Risk Research, Columbia University
* James Quintiere, Ph.D. professor of engineering, University of Maryland member, NIST advisory committee
* Steve Riskus freelance photographer; eyewitness, Pentagon crash
* Van Romero, Ph.D. vice president, New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
* Christine Shaffer spokesperson, Viracon
* Mete Sozen, Ph.D., S.E. Kettelhut Distinguished Professor of Structural Engineering, Purdue University; member, Pentagon Building Performance Report; project conception, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University
* Shyam Sunder, Sc.D. acting deputy director, lead investigator, Building and Fire Research Laboratory, National Institute of Standards and Technology
Mary Tobin science writer, media relations, Earth Institute, Columbia University
* Forman Williams, Ph.D. professor of engineering, physics, combustion, University of California, San Diego; member, advisory committee, National Institute of Standards and Technology
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Anyway, obviously I know of several of these people (Sunder, Van Romero), but being somewhat new to 9/11 truth, I don't know the backstories on all of them. So I've got a couple of questions.

1. Is there any location on the web that lists any/all of the various people above (or any/everyone who has been on record supporting the OCT) and discusses why they are not credible or why their stated beliefs should be discounted? The reason I ask is that it would be really nice to be able to provide a link or google search phrase to guide people to this page. As it is now, I don't have much I can say about these people.

2. Barring a site as referenced above, does anybody have any quick notes off the top of their head as to why any of these should be considered non-credible.

As it stands now, for this particular thread, I'm kind of at a loss, because
1) it's difficult to provide counter-arguments about people I don't know
2) although, you can argue about the evidence, it's difficult to succintly argue in a comment thread about some particular person's statements or why their statements are false

Thanks

am I wrong...

or do most of these people rely on the government for their income?

Vetted?

I bet this list was compiled without the permission of the 'signers'. It would be nice to have a court reporter take down their statements (mug shots too).

Very interesting list! I hope others will do some research too

Van Romero, Ph.D. vice president, New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology: very suspicious

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/retractions/romero.html

Romero was one of the first experts on explosives who stated that explosives were responsible for the collapses of the WTC buildings. He withdrawed this conclusion very fast. Read for the ins and outs.

I see one of the main links is dead. This is an alternative one on 911Research:
Tech Receives $15 M for Anti-Terrorism Program:
http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/disinfo/retractions/NMT_25sept03.html

New Mexico Tech Vice President Romero Named a Top Lobbyist:
http://911review.com/coverup/romero.html

[Bad link]

Secret Sozen report

* Mete Sozen, Ph.D., S.E. Kettelhut Distinguished Professor of Structural Engineering, Purdue University; member, Pentagon Building Performance Report; project conception, September 11 Pentagon Attack Simulations Using LS-Dyna, Purdue University

I was advised by a civil engineering faculty member at the University of Michigan that Mete Sozen wrote a report which has been suppressed that disputed the official collapse explanation for the WTC demolitions.

Somebody should try FOIAing Purdue to get it out.

James Quintiere, Van Romero, Steve Riskus, where's Bazant?

Quintiere has not supported the CD hypothesis, but has been very critical of NIST's report:

Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation
http://www.ae911truth.org/info/12

1 QUESTIONS ON THE WTC INVESTIGATION JAMES G. QUINTIERE - 2008
http://www.fpe.umd.edu/documents/QuintiereNATOFinal.pdf

Van Romero's the guy who, right after 9/11, said, "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse," then shortly after that changed his tune and received huge boosts to his career and income
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/retractions/romero.html

Steve Riskus is not an expert, he's just one of the many dozens of people that witnessed a commercial airliner hitting the Pentagon; i'm surprised WaPo didn't mention '757 didn't hit the Pentagon' claims- Fujita has said things alluding to that before; hopefully he's realized that claim is inconclusive/probably disinfo.
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/04/911-and-pentagon-attack-what.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

I'm also surprised Bazant is not listed; he's published a number of papers in peer-reviewed journals promoting utter bullshit, like his 'crush down, crush up' fairy tale.

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21..

..isn't many, especially when it's forced to include suspect Shyam Sunder of NIST. Glenn Corbett and Forman Williams are also NIST employees. John Labriola (freelance photographer) doesn't sound very 'qualified', nor does Christine Shaffer. Maybe he is qualified as a photographer, and she as a spokesperson?

Discounting RIskus (and possibly Quintiere) too leaves about 15.

Do you know what the rest have said, or have links to any sources? It would be good to know what their stated beliefs are before attempting to refute them!

There's a TA thread on the topic, maybe some of these people are mentioned:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5946

Thanks Lemmingbar... copied this for Thread on TruthAction

I am keeping a running log on TruthAction...
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5946

Open debate

Let www.ae911truth.org and http://stj911.org extend a welcome to the experts listed. Open discussion of the facts can only serve to draw more people to the truth - as Richard Gage recently demonstrated on WBZ Radio: http://gators911truth.org/00/911/AE911-Gage-WBZ-3-3-2010.mp3

More free and fair debate will help us to further refine and sharpen our points.

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just commented at WaPo

kinda rambling, but...got in a lot of points. The physics of controlled demo are already very well represented early in the comments. The cool thing is, its like 13 pages of comments, but newer ones are first.

We are going to win this thing! A brand new world is possible.

Nice one

Great comment Camus. WaPo editors are getting utterly pawned in the comments section.

Here's Camusrebel's post:

Why did Bush stay in that school for 45 minutes? It was a publicly pre announced event. About 2 miles away from Sarasota Int. Airport. When one of his secret service heard of the 2nd tower he said "We're outta here" why was he over ruled.
Isn't it odd how many of the "hijackers" were trained in CIA affiliated airports. Able Danger? Phoenix memo?
The FBI squashed the the minnesota office's multiple pleas to investigate.

The Commission report has a chapter titled, "The System Was Blinking Red" from I believe a Tenet quote. Dozens of warnings were pouring in from many other countries. Richard Clarke tells of a meeting w/ many agencies in July where it was decided that all excersise should be cancelled. Yet there were multiple war games going on that morning.

False blips added to radar. At least one documented questioner: "Is this real or exercise?"

Why did NORAD's story change at least 3 times? Why were planes sent out over the ocean. Why did an FAA manager take a tape of several operators discussing thier actions that morning and cut it into pieces, putting them in seperate trash cans?

What about people calling in from New Jersey about a group of men filming and doing a celebration dance? Their van was described. They were arrested. They were all Israel's. Their "Urban Moving Systems" van was found to have traces of explosives in it.

Shanksville was clearly shot down. Debris was found up to 8 miles away. How much do you see in the empty crater?

What did cheney mean "of course the orders still stand"? Why were protocols changed that summer to give cheney complete control? Why did Dim-son ask to talk w/commission only while holding big dick's hand? Why no video? Why no freakin transcript? We get video of Clinton yakking about a simple act of one consenting adult pleasuring another. 3,000 are murdered and we don't even get a transcript?

As we all know by now, the FBI was involved in the '93 WTC bombing. If you are not, check the public court records. Of course if you only get your info from WaPo, your ignorance is understandable.

Why would they do it? The phony war on terror was already being ginned up to replace our previous mortal enemy Russia.

The 2 most frightening words our Military/IC ever heard was "peace dividend".

I could go on and on. The smoking guns are in the hundreds. If you were responsible for murdering 3,000 would you come forward? Is it scairy to admit? Will it have paradigm shifting reprecussions? Yes.

Will it be the end of the Democrat and Republican partys? Most likely. Capitalism as we know it? One can dare to dream. the very existence of the CIA? Most def.

With 9/11 truth we can begin to heal our planet. Without it we are toast. Summon the courage. Turn off your TV, put down the WaPo, think FOR YOURSELF.

The truth is plain as day for those with the guts to confront it. The time is now. Think what kind of world you want for your grandchildren's grandchildren.

Peace

where's the Fujita interview???

WaPo editor: "Mr. Fujita's ideas about the attack on the World Trade Center, which he shared with us in a recent interview,"

A search for "YUKIHISA FUJITA" gets 2 hits, the above editorial and an article from January which is primarily about Ozawa
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/NewsSearch?st=%22YUKIHISA+FUJIT...

the only mention of Fujita in the Jan article:
"Asked to explain Ozawa's new role in governing Japan, the head of the DPJ's international department, Yukihisa Fujita, said in a statement: "Government policies are overseen by the cabinet led by prime minister Hatoyama, and party affairs by the secretary general Ozawa. There is a division of labor with close cooperation and leadership between the two.""
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/09/AR201001...

So where's the interview??? This treasonous WaPo editor snake is going to libel Fujita and everyone who questions the treasonous OCT, but won't publish Fujita's own words? The WaPo is propaganda and scum, but that was already clear from many episodes in their history.

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Precisely - where's the interview?

Makes no sense to report on it, without including what he had to say.
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the science is settled

"Mr. Fujita's ideas about the attack on the World Trade Center, which he shared with us in a recent interview, are too bizarre, half-baked and intellectually bogus to merit serious discussion."

it's a play right out of Gore's playbook ....the science is in..there is no debate... blah blah blah

we need to hop on our boards and ride this media wave as long as we can...

I got the local 50,000watt station to interview Gage later this week... it's taken me 8 years to get them to bite on 9/11 truth... times are changin'

...50,000watt station to interview Gage later this week...

Great job!
Excellent work.
"...we need to hop on our boards and ride this media wave as long as we can..."

The Washington Post

The Washington Post is a disgrace.

They're dynosaurs looking at meteors

Nice to see us winning the info war, after all these years, and so much effort.

We're into the Third Phase - violent opposition, and this just kicks us into high gear, and they lose more ground.

History is rearing up and re-evaluating what took place on 9/11, and in the wake of 9/11. Seems the perps didn't factor in the Internet as a mass information dissemination channel capable of altogether bypassing the mainstream media.
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Notice the Alternative Media won't touch 9/11 truth

Funny how 9/11 truth is popping up here and there in the mainstream media, and in foreign press.
What is very suspicious is how the Alternative media is avoiding like the plague.
The worst offenders? Alternet, DemocracyNow, the Nation, CommonDreams, antiwar.com, Counterpunch.
Most of these not only have avoided mention of 9/11 truth, but when pressed, they insult people who are in the movement.

The Alternative press is supposed to step in and make known the real facts when the msm, controlled by powerful forces, keep those facts from the American people.

Why the treason against us?
Check out who supports these sites. It is hard. I've gone into some of the support for Alternet, just as an example. Foundations. Foundations which if you follow some threads lead to the same big powerful elites that control msm...................huge corporations, big international financial groups, the Israel lobby, etc etc.
Dump alternative media. We've got to find a media site that is not controlled by these same powerful groups.

It is alarming

The "alternative press" is not alternative, apparently. It is "controlled opposition"....
sickening and disheartening. None of these sites will print the scientific evidence or have the courage to reveal factual accounts of eyewitnesses and experts.
How do we put pressure on them?

Perhaps the "alternative"

media on the left is silent because the most visible outrage re 9/11 Truth is coming from the right. I say that as a progressive women who is frankly leery and turned off by the anti choice, anti climate change, anti single payer health care, "Christian" or Libertarian patriotism that accompanies much of the 911 Truth movement. Having said that , I am a progressive Christian who is wiling to put differences aside for a larger cause...Truth, Peace , Justice ,Freedom...

the "left/right" paradigm has to go

these divisions are used to weaken and destroy those who threaten TPTW.....
give them up! Look at each issue individually and decide how it plays out and if it will benefit our world.
When you look at earth twirling through space...there is no "left" and no "right"....
We are all one people and one planet.
It is time to end the lies and constructs that pit us one against another...one race against another, one nation against another...
There is just ONE earth and ONE humanity.

Confusing cause and effect

Speaking as one who is likewise 'leery and turned off' by the same kinds of tendencies as you are, I've heard that argument before and am not convinced, finding it to be just another excuse to avoid examining the issue. It works like this: Left or 'progressive' alternative media keep their readers and listeners in the dark about all that's being uncovered regarding the implausibility of the 9/11 official story. Consequently, as this information spreads--surprise, surprise!--people of a more conservative populist political persuasion--who (for whatever reason) are not so constrained in terms of what they are exposed to where 9/11 is concerend--wind up being represented in the 9/11 truth movement to a greater degree than most self-identified progressives are used to being the case in the movements they participate in. Those same alternative media then turn to their audiences and say, 'See the kind of people who make up that movement? Hear those other opinions that they esposuse? Do you really think there's anything to what they're saying about 9/11? And even if you do, are you comfortable being associated with them politically?'

In short, the 'silence of the left' (that is, in its organized form, as distinct from activists acting individually) is something that clearly preceded the upsurge in 9/11 truth activism, before that activism had taken on any particular cast which those 'alternative' media could present to their readers and listeners in a negative light (such as, by equating it with anti-NWO, anti-illuminati rhetoric). So apparent was this silence within the first few years after 9/11 that Griffin even wrote about it in the introductory chapter of 'The New Pearl Harbor' back in 2004.

emailed Fujita

Just sent this to Fujita: info@y-fujita.com - found the email on http://www2.y-fujita.com/cgi-bin/index.php (translation available from translate.google.com or worldwidelexicon.org)

Greetings Mr. Fujita,

I'm writing to praise you for acting on the courage of your convictions in raising questions about the official narrative of the 9/11 attacks, and to let you know that the Washington Post recently insulted and libeled you in an editorial:

A leading Japanese politician espouses a 9/11 fantasy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/07/AR201003...

In the headline, your questions are referred to as "a 9/11 fantasy."

And in the body of the editorial:

"Mr. Fujita's ideas about the attack on the World Trade Center, which he shared with us in a recent interview, are too bizarre, half-baked and intellectually bogus to merit serious discussion."

"Mr. Fujita ... a man so susceptible to the imaginings of the lunatic fringe"

And the last paragraph, in addition to further insulting and libeling you, is obviously intended to send a message from the U.S. establishment to Mr. Hatoyama that he should get rid of you if he hopes to preserve close relations with the U.S.; "That relationship, and its benefits for the region, will be severely tested if Mr. Hatoyama tolerates elements of his own party as reckless and fact-averse as Mr. Fujita."

It is already a disgrace that the Washington Post has failed to conduct any serious investigation of the 9/11 events (even as they've reported many of the facts that contradict the official 9/11 narrative), and failed to call anyone to account for the failure to defend the U.S. and the failure of the 9/11 Commission to conduct a proper investigation, but now they have insulted and libeled you for calling attention to the contradictions between the 9/11 story and the public record.

I hope you will pursue legal action against the Washington Post for libeling you; in addition to receiving an apology and redress for the damage done to your reputation (and possibly your career), the Establishment media will learn a lesson about attacking those who are seeking truth and justice. Furthermore, it will attract international attention to the urgent need for a full investigation into 9/11, before that day is used again to justify war and the subversion of human rights and the public interest.

At a minimum, I trust you will demand that the Washington Post publish your written response to their charges. They have not yet published their interview with you, and readers have no idea what it is you actually said to the Washington Post.

Sincerely,

Erik Larson

PS If you are not yet familiar with it, I highly recommend:
The Complete 9/11 Timeline
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

PPS, it is not mentioned in the editorial that you said anything to the Washington Post questioning the lack of evidence that AA 77 hit the Pentagon, but you've done so in the past. Please be advised that there are many eyewitnesses to an AA 757 hitting the Pentagon, 757 parts were seen and photographed both inside and outside the Pentagon, passenger DNA and personal effects were reportedly recovered from the Pentagon, there's a 90' gash in the base of the Pentagon with a fuselage-sized hole in the center, and the damage path inside and outside the Pentagon matches what might be expected of a 757 crash.

Certainly, the U.S. government should release all documents, photos and video proving it was AA 77. However, it may be this information is being suppressed in order to fuel the controversy over 'what' hit, and distract from larger questions- such as why there was no air defense of D.C. after a 'summer of threat' that included warnings of a plot involving hijacked planes to attack U.S. cities, and more than half an hour after both WTC towers had been hit.

Here are links for more info on the Pentagon, from sites that present credible evidence and questions regarding 9/11:
The Pentagon Attack:

Witnesses described the plane hitting the Pentagon
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/04/911-and-pentagon-attack-what.ht...

What the Physical Evidence Shows by Jim Hoffman
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon/index.html

Pentagon Attack Errors
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/index.html

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thanks for that

You could/should send a copy to the Democratic Party of Japan H.Q., so it will go through their bureaucracy, not only directly to Mr. Fujita.. I'll do the same.

Fujita comment on WaPo article?

Toten is this the website? I couldn't find an email or contact form:

anyone able to translate Japanese to English? Machine translation is rapidly improving but still sucks; seems this Fujita blogpost on his party's website may be a comment on the WaPo editorial:

http://www.election.ne.jp/10870/82214.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fw...

Washington Post (March 8 Date) for my comments on an editorial critical of the

Yukihisa Fujita at 2010/3/09 18:13:55

Washington Post (March 8 Date)載Rimashita be misinterpreted as the editorial. Contact for this, it will report the circumstances.

March 3 Hokkusutadda AM 10:30 Lee said the Washington Post at the request of the Foreign Press Center (Lee Hockstader , Editorial Writer, The Washington Post) that "Japan's stance on immigration, changes in attitude" in the subject interviews Yukihisa Fujita, member of the House of Councilors (International Director) visited. (Annex, the first request for an interview, the following questions and more information)

The problem with the article outlines the history and interview requests regarding this below.

Round 1 of our interview time is one hour, was right about the views of lawmakers and Fujita, Japan's current theme of immigration requests. During the interview, Mr. Hokkusutadda, which had been hit a comment on a laptop, one hour after the interview, after you close the laptop, as in the biography of the lawmaker Fujita chat "9.11"

Committee for Our larger point is that it is a question and the Committee asked what the point of wondering which one. In contrast, Mr. Fujita is "9.11" incident that points out the background and began to become involved in remains unknown.

2 Therefore, Mr. Fujita is about the question of consent will be answered after hours, as had been answered reporters questions outside the course.
Fukazawa, also attended the meeting said the three Foreign Press Center (Uchida, Chief, International Bureau, also Banikuru associate of Deputy Chair) During this visit, interviews with other immigration issues that did not even take a check with the tip of one . (After the interview, which also received a letter of thanks from President of the Center Terada.) So as to record the entire record of this interview, at a later date, is expected to introduce a whole.

4 as in 1 above, after the interview, "9.11" but a conversation about 9.11 can be concluded that neither the conspiracy, and asserted that such would not dismantle the Twin Towers bombing, clear have a voice. Rather, the scene of war and humanitarian assistance, such as Afghanistan and the families of the victims, "the war on terrorism" and went from the position of parliamentary questions requiring verification of the origin of that introduced.

Fujita also has five members, including former prisoners of the U.S. military support activities, many American friends in all circles, has been trying for years to build a bridge between the United States.

Six Beginning of his article in the first place, and that it is as if the introduction of the Upper House Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Rep. Fujita, (head of the Research Committee on Foreign Affairs in the upper house of Japan's parliament ) Lawmaker Fujita "Esutaburishumento of foreign policy," but to use the term, unless lawmakers said the right post, international director of the party's position that is not in a position to be involved in politics. 断Zezaru was forced to distort the facts and inflammatory reporting.

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Gatekeepers all...

Make absolutely NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT...

...the vast majority of "alternative media" are gatekeepers to the power structure.

Fill in your own "property owners" whose property is being protected by these gatekeepers in question.

I was at Santa Cruz a few years back when there was an alternative media "Truth Emergency Conference" hosted by 9/11 Truth...and the gatekeepers were CRAWLING all over the place. Most attendees were GREAT and brought good, kind, intelligent and caring hearts...but the "alternative media types" were merely establishing their presence...and influence.

ANYONE...can figure the "media gatekeers" out...its been happeneing for years...in the NYT and in what Hollywood routinely blurts out...and almost everywhere else.

Its ALL right in front of our eyes...and its still taboo to talk about this situation in the Good Ole USofA...and of course, in Canada too...

The nicest thing about CI...Civil Informationing, is that ordinary citizens are encouraged to become their own media...and to become their own educators also...

9/11 TRUTH for World PEACE and JUSTICE

Robin Hordon
Kingston, WA

PS: I suspect that the latest kurflufel about Toyota [the automaker] has more to do with Fujita than one might inherently think.

We are taking on "The Big Boys" in BIG WAYS now...and they care not one bit about human lives...except their own offspring's lives of course. Thier self applied "destinies" are to rule the world...and many of the HI PERP players [sitting at the international financial tables] have been accomplishing this for centuries. [That was a hint folks...] rdh

What makes Americans "American"

Some years ago, when I was waking up to this lie called 9/11, I was exchanging mails with a US military personnel.

He was very polite and all that but he never accepted any allegation I had found on 9/11.

And yet, one day he wrote to me in a mail and said,

"Even though we do not share the same view at all, I am ready to risk my life to protect your right to claim what you claim. That's democracy."

I was deeply moved with this comment of his.
I thought to myself, that's another reason why I like Americans! even though I was somewhat frustrated the way he trusted his country=Government et al and didn't listen to me and yet that's sort of understandable because I didn't know even 1/10th of what I know now.

Anyhow, back to this WP's article.

The paper is no doubt, one of the leading media in the U.S.A., the country of democracy where you are supposed to enjoy the freedom of speech.

And yet, it printed this ugly attack on a politician who is holding an important post in his country without examining any fact at all in order to deny his allegation.

Is this democracy?
Is WP American?

Not of genuine Americans I should say.

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The fight is on

First they ignore you, then they fight you...

Can anyone doubt that now the fight is on for real? A sobering moment. The political system of the USA (and, by default, my country, Australia, because of our support for the bogus war on terror) is now hanging in the balance. What may happen first though, is a quick pull-back from this apparent attempt to test the waters of public opinion by publication of this biased article which may even hope to capitalize on anti-Japanese sentiment or racism. But it will not work. It is too late. The 911Truth genie is out of the bottle.

So as I see it there only a few ways they can go now. 1) Implement martial law, declare 911 truth to be traitorious 2) Continue the fight, using more and more desperate measures, but short of implementing extreme measures like martial law. 3) Another big false flag which can be blamed directly on 911truthers, instead of the mini false flags we've been seeing.

Think how much is at stake. We all know and realise just about everything we know and are familiar with will be affected. I believe that it is one of the reasons my country is trying to introduce an internet filter. So far, option two has been their way. But they will be starting to realise it isn't working. Option three looms larger. So let us be ready. If there's another big false flag, we must be ready to expose it far and wide.

But let us not fear option one. Personally I think such a move will fail. Carry on the fight everyone!! We are obviously winning now.

Sorry, comments are not enough!

As mentioned before comments at the WAPOrware article are good, but somewhat more direct and personal heat is needed as well, what about phone calls to their office..

generic: (202) 334-6000, Washington Post, 1150 15th St Nw, Washington, DC 20071

!Contact people from the editorial desk directly - phone numbers and emails inside (incl. Ombudsman's):
http://www.aboutus.org/WashPost.com

!Plus there seems to be a key to their email system:
e.g. Editorial Page Editor's name: Fred Hiatt => email: hiattf@washpost.com
Is it also the same system for the head honcho executives listed bellow I don't know yet, lets try..

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The Washington Post Company - Directors ("interesting" personal bios and "Langleyesque" profiles hah):
http://www.washpostco.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=62487&p=irol-govHistDirectors
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The Washington Post Company

1150 15th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20071
202.334.6000
TWPCoReply@washpost.com

Ann McDaniel – Senior Vice President

Rima Calderon - Vice President – Communications and External Relations

Kris Coratti Director – Public Relations/Communications

David J. Jones – Manager, Community Relations & Contributions Washingtonpost Media

http://www.washpostco.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=62487&p=irol-companycontact

Get crafty, there is always a way to get over their secretaries etc., refer "Fujita's fantasies" to hard core evidence at http://www.ae911truth.org/ or Griffin's books or still better yet "Jersey Girls" Steering Committee report on the Congressional 9/11 Commission aka the famous 70% unanswered questions for the victim families:
http://www.911truth.org/images/resources/Family%20Steering%20Cmte%20review%20of%20Report.pdf

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btw. Washington Post CEO joins Facebook board | The Social - CNET News
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10121237-36.html
http://www.facebook.com/washingtonpostworld

Interesting short summary & comment:

Did they later remove my two comments?

I can find them on my WP account page, but out of the context, and I cannot find them in the discussion thread itself.

* * *

The Washington Times exhibits some real journalistic attitude in this important issue:

"Explosive News"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/22/inside-the-beltway-70128...

And the entire February 2010 issue of the highly respected journal "American Behavioral Scientist" is devoted to State Crimes Against Democracy, with September 11, 2001 in focus:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Entire-February-2010-Issue-by-Elizabeth...

Other peer-reviewed articles:

"Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence for energetic materials "

http://www.springerlink.com/content/f67q6272583h86n4/

"Active Thermitic Material Discovered in
Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe":

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/000000...

But one doesn't really need to be an academic to realize that three skyscrapers pulverizing mid-air, with material ejected horizontally at a higher speed than the building's vertical "descent", amounts to controlled demolition.

("Descent" is in quotation marks, as the top parts of the buildings themselves disintegrated and pulverized during the first few seconds and thus could not have destroyed much anything below.)

And no serious investigation into unprecedented highrise collapses would begin with the total destruction of the research material (NIST: "no steel was recovered from WTC 7"), followed by years of speculation and various theories until finally coming up with a "magic column did it" explanation. How naive can people be?

* * *

I didn't expect Washington Post to succumb to this level of yellow journalism.

There are thousands of well-known professionals, eminent academics and credible whistleblowers who do not buy the official 9/11 fantasy. Google "Patriots Question 9/11".

In a poll by a large Finnish magazine, a whopping 38 percent of the respondents responded that 9/11 was a false-flag operation. In an international poll at around the same time, less than 50 percent of the respondents thought that "Al-Qaida" was behind the operation.

There are too many reasons for me (and many of my fellow countrymen and -women) to be unable to believe the official explanation of 9/11 to mention here. They include:

- the lack of interception during the almost 2-hour hijacking drama
- the 3 different official explanations given over the years for the failure
- the fact that not a single person was ever fired for either incompetence or lying
- the anti-hijacking exercises unfolding at the same time as the real hijackings (WaPo, why haven't you covered this?)
- the anthrax attacks - framing Arabs but leading to a US military laboratory - targeting two Senators, both of whom had been trying to halt the rushing through of the voluminous Patriot Act legislation on the basis of the 9/11 attacks - as you realize, the legislation had been on the shelve waiting)
- the put options indicating foreknowledge, as confirmed by independent analysts, etc etc.

And then there is the scientific article "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" published in Bentham's peer-reviewed journal, and other articles in other journals. The new volume of the respected American Behavioral Scientist is dedicated to State Crimes Against Democracy (SCADs), with 9/11 and the "war on terror" it is used to legitimate in focus.

Ah, building 7. Absolutely nothing suspicious about it...?

1) The skyscraper was destroyed in a way that matches the most skilled of controlled demolitions (CDs) imaginable. Many CDs have even been botched, and I can't believe that random fires (which is the final official explanation, finally given at the end of 2008!) could accomplish what even precisely placed and timed explosives sometimes fail to do.

2) The research material (=the building's steel debris) was destroyed before investigations began. Yet we are talking about an unprecedented, massive building disaster here! Examining the rather compact debris pile would, of course, have revealed the cause and mechanism of the destruction.

3) After various hypotheses over the years and an admission in an interview in 2006 that "We don't really know" we've had trouble getting a handle on building 7", the governmental agency in charge of the investigation, NIST, somehow comes up with the precise cause of the destruction (yeah right!), triggered by a "new phenomenon", although thermal expansion has hardly been absent in other steel building fires.

4) Three months before the final report at the end of 2008, NIST said that WTC 7 could not have freefalled, as there was always material that needed to be broken, thus slowing down the collapse. Yet after numerous comments and calculations from the truth movement, in the final report they acknowledged a period of total freefall of 2.25 seconds during the collapse, meaning that there was absolutely no resistance from the 80 support columns and other building material within the space of ~8 floors, proving the partial removal of the resistance by explosives as in controlled demolitions.

I'm no engineer, but the above makes me singularly unable to take the official investigations and explanations seriously. And the over 1,100 architects and engineers of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth agree.

And the "journalists" at Washington Post can't even figure out why thinking people have *problems* with the official explanations?

Fujita responds

Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_499856.html

Seems so-called interview WaPo refers to was on another topic and that Fujita's 9/11 comments came were 'during informal talks' (afterwards).

"Fujita, the director general of the DPJ's international department, admitted referring to the attacks 'during informal talks' with the Post following an interview that had focused on Japan's immigration policies."

'But I clearly said I have never concluded that September 11 was a dark plot and never stated that (the collapse) of the Twin Towers was a controlled demolition,' Fujita said in a statement. 'We cannot help but conclude that it's a seditious report distorting facts.' Fujita separately told AFP: 'I'm puzzled and annoyed. I'm considering how I should take action to protest against the editorial.'

The article above has the headline "Denies calling 9/11 a hoax " which at first glance seems to make Fujita out to be another Van Jones eg denying his 9/11 position. However, allowing for Japanese - English translation quirks, I just see Fujita trying to take control of his message. Fujita is like most of us, calling for a new investigation, pointing out the many problems with the official story, and while he has his convictions about these problems, he doesn't speculate or state conclusively that they did or didn't happen.

Most important of all Fujita made a presentation about these problems with the official story in Japan's parliament, and has continued to talk about the issue.

Speaking carefully

That's right. Should we be concerned if Fujita's comments regarding his 'informal talks' with the Post are accurate? '...never concluded,' '...never stated'. This looks to me as though he is speaking carefully. After all, one can stop short of stating something as a definite conclusion while still finding official explanations to be less than credible; and while still believing that being open to the possibility that a more thorough examination of evidence might change one's understanding of the attacks.

This stands in contrast to the case of Van Jones, who had signed a petition calling for a new investigation, then late renounced that position. Fujita is doubtless feeling the heat in a major way, but let's hope he doesn't wind up going all the way to issuing a public retraction in the manner of Jones or Debra Medina.