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Reprehensor Sat, 08/16/2008 - 7:40am
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Gorbachev Educates Larry King
The spin game continues
Isn't it disgusting how this whole incident is being distorted by the MSM? From the people who brought you an illegal war on Iraq, they are now spinning retaliation as "aggression"--pretending that Russia was not attacked in the first place. This does look like an obvious disinformation campaign that was set up from the beginning. I guess they are probably disappointed it backfired in their faces and are now in danger of losing access to precious oil.
The people who always lose are the civilians.
I've posted a blog about this here:
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2008/08/us-corporate-media-spins-russia...
9/11 researcher Michael Ruppert comments on the situation saying:
"The United States has been pushing Russia hard since well-before 9/11, trying to weaken and encircle it. I devoted a whole chapter to that subject in Rubicon. It is clear that the Bush Administration, in its Neocon cock-suredness, mistook Russia's comparatively tepid responses thus far as a sign of weakness. This is a rope-a-dope strategy that the U.S. looks certain to lose unless it can pull a rather large and intimidating hippopotamus out of the hat. The potential humiliation for U.S. prestige is so great that I would bet that the "football" has been dusted off in Beijing while Hu Jintao wonders what happened to his Olympic games. Either the Chinese had advance warning or they did not. If they did, which I suspect, then it's perfect to have Bush in Beijing where both Russia and China can carve him up like a Thanksgiving turkey. If they didn't, then I'm certain that Russia had a huge carrot to put on the Chinese table as the first tanks crossed the border."
http://mikeruppert.blogspot.com/2008/08/it-is-not-possible-to-understate...
"Russia has just brought the energy discussion back to the only real problem there is, Peak Oil...
The BTC pipeline, so familiar to FTW and Rubicon readers, carries about a million barrels a day of Caspian oil around Russia to a Turkish port in the Mediterranean from whence it gets shipped to Europe AND the U.S. It happens to run right through Georgia. More importantly, since it started operations just a few years ago, it has represented Europe's last (belated) futile hope for energy independence from Russia. Take a million barrels a day offline, or threaten to in a global oil market with no elasticity or swing producers, and watch what oil and gold prices do. The ramifications of this are enormous as the Saudis get pushed nearer the inevitable point at which they have to admit decline as the world will inevitably run to them for another dog-and-pony show of increased production."
http://mikeruppert.blogspot.com/2008/08/georgia-us-vs-ossetia-russia.html
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Thank you Arabesque, eye-openers
These are some eye-opening links you've provided, Arabesque. Thanks so much! It's good to see Ruppert blogging. I loved Ruppert's quip, "Zbigniew Brzezinski should have remembered that chess is a Russian game."
How close are we to the abyss?
...don't believe them!
I liked that quote too.
I liked that quote too.
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Ruppert and Peak Oil
I see Ruppert is still pushing his "Peak Oil" rue. Give me a break please Mike. I wasn't born yesterday. Peak Oil is just another fear tactic used by the NWO boys. Their sick agenda goes much deeper than Peak Oil. This reminds me of the "Global Warming" scam they are also using. The NWO boys real goal is an Orwellian fascist police state and a microchipped population of human drones. Do the research like I did.
The 9/11 wars are about oil
"Give me a break please Mike. I wasn't born yesterday. Peak Oil is just another fear tactic used by the NWO boys."
The 9/11 wars are about oil and controlling oil reserves. The PNAC document even admits that controlling oil reserves is an objective. The secret energy task for meetings pre-9/11 were about Iraq oil.
"These are documents turned over by the Commerce Department, under a March 5, 2002 court order as a result of Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit concerning the activities of the Cheney Energy Task Force. The documents contain a map of Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, refineries and terminals, as well as 2 charts detailing Iraqi oil and gas projects, and “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.” The documents are dated March 2001.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/iraqi-oil-maps.shtml
Project Censored remarked:
“Documented plans of occupation and exploitation predating September 11 confirm heightened suspicion that U.S. policy is driven by the dictates of the energy industry.”
http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/8.html
I guess it's just a coincidence that Bush and Cheney and other members from PNAC have ties to the Oil industry too, right? And gee, that former company of Cheney's has sure made an amazing "killing" off of the Iraq war. Haliburton.
"Several original PNAC members, including Cheney, Khalilzad and the Bush family, have ties to the oil industry. Many other members have been long-time fixtures in the U.S. military establishment or Cold War "strategic studies,"
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_...
The Iraq occupation is about oil.
Ruppert gives a lot of documentation for the basis of peak oil in his book. I encourage people to actually examine the evidence that he cites before dismissing this concept so easily.
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Sorry Arabesque
But "Peak Oil" is a complete scam. Trust me I have done much research. How many dead dinosaurs would it take to create all the fossil fuel necessary to fill all our oil wells? If you don't believe me read this. http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/peak_oil/peak_oil_is_... And that is just one article. Use your head. Oil , besides being a piss-poor energy source is a natural substance created by the Earth's hot core. It replenishes itself. By the way, Ruppert sold-out to the truth movement years ago. I have no respect for the man what so ever. He is also LIHOP. Read his book. He won't even touch controlled demolition. Another thing, the PNAC boys are just more tools of the Illuminati. They are no where near the top of the power pyramid. They take their orders from their masters. People like the Rothschild's and Rockefellers. Sure they may have pulled off 9/11 but they were just following orders from their controllers.
"He is also LIHOP. Read his book. "
"He is also LIHOP. Read his book. "
I read his book... sorry maddog, but you are falling for some of the propaganda out there. Tarpley also dismisses Ruppert's book as LIHOP, but this is a false claim. In fact, Ruppert's thesis is practically identical to Tarpley's. I'll quote from his book:
“The 9/11 terrorists did not act on their own volition. The suicide hijackers were instruments in a carefully planned intelligence operation… I [am] absolutely convinced that… the so-called hijackers… could not have accomplished the flying required on 9/11... Their behavior was more consistent with the creation of a detailed “legend” to make the public believe they had done the deed... The technology to fly airliners by remote control or, what the air force calls remotely piloted vehicles (RPVs), has been around since the 1960s... Like any “well-planned” government operation, the planning and initial preparations for what became 9/11 had begun in the Clinton administration as a contingency plan. That’s when the 19 so-called hijackers (and/or their handlers) began establishing their legends... Some of these “terrorists” had been turned by US, British, or Israeli intelligence long before 9/11. Some were probably long-time, deep-cover field agents... I believe that the so-called hijackers who had received this training were probably part of an ultra-secret US military and intelligence joint operation “Opposition Force,” or OPFOR, which routinely played bad guys in hijack exercises around the world and inside the US...What is clear is that the government’s assertions that 19 hijackers, funded from caves in Afghanistan, were able to execute what happened on September 11th is beyond ludicrous.”
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/11/disinformation-and-false-lihopm...
LIHOP and MIHOP are terms that can mean whatever you want them to mean. They are easily misused and your characterization of Ruppert's book is a perfect example. Ruppert is not interested in "LIHOP" or "MIHOP". He is interested in the facts about 9/11. Yes, he does not pursue the physical evidence, but he gives his reason for doing this... which you would know if you read the book. Which leads to my next point. Although Ruppert does not make an argument for controlled demolition, this does not mean he doesn't believe a controlled demolition happened. See the distinction? He is interested in making a fact-based case that does not rely on physical evidence.
"PNAC boys are just more tools of the Illuminati."
An investigation would determine who is really running the show. To eliminate suspects without an investigation is a careless mistake. This is like saying, I know you pulled the trigger to shoot that person, but you were just following orders (or: "Of course the orders still stand!"), and you aren't important because of that. First of all, only an investigation would establish this, and secondly, the man who pulled the trigger still goes to jail.
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I know
Ruppert personally. We are both members of AA. He has 20 something years and I have 31 years of sobriety. When he dropped out of the 9/11 truth movement I blew my stack and told him off. He said I didn't know how powerful the people we were fighting were. We didn't have a chance. I was a new comer to the movement at the time and you NEVER tell a new person that. I really ripped into him and stopped my subscription to his web site. He was quite pissed off at me for doing this. I also told him that his precious peak oil theory was bull shit and proved it to him scientifically. He hasn't spoken to me since. .....Believe what you want Arabesque, you have the right to your own beliefs but after much research I know for a fact that 9/11 goes far deeper than the need for oil. The PNAC boys are just tools of the NWO boys.
I see I am getting some
negative hits. Couldn't make me happier. It is so easy to say what people want to hear instead of the truth. I guess I am making progress. Controversy makes people think. I like that. That is what truth seeking is all about. But as Gandhi once said applies to peak oil and the motives behind 9/11. "Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth." Although I am defiantly not in the minority of one.
Georgia on my mind ...
The following article can be viewed in it's entirety at:
Is Not Western Hypocrisy Astonishing? by Patrick J. Buchanan
It is the first honest commentary from a non-necon republican that I've come across addressing Mikheil Saakashvili's ethnic cleansing of South Ossertia, Georgia:
"Mikheil Saakashvili's decision to use the opening of the Olympic Games to cover Georgia's invasion of its breakaway province of South Ossetia must rank in stupidity with Gamal Abdel-Nasser's decision to close the Straits of Tiran to Israeli ships.
Nasser's blunder cost him the Sinai in the Six-Day War. Saakashvili's blunder probably means permanent loss of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
After shelling and attacking what he claims is his own country, killing scores of his own Ossetian citizens and sending tens of thousands fleeing into Russia, Saakashvili's army was whipped back into Georgia in 48 hours.
Vladimir Putin took the opportunity to kick the Georgian army out of Abkhazia, as well, to bomb Tbilisi and to seize Gori, birthplace of Stalin.
Reveling in his status as an intimate of George Bush, Dick Cheney and John McCain, and America's lone democratic ally in the Caucasus, Saakashvili thought he could get away with a lightning coup and present the world with a fait accompli.
Mikheil did not reckon on the rage or resolve of the Bear.
American charges of Russian aggression ring hollow. Georgia started this fight – Russia finished it. People who start wars don't get to decide how and when they end.
Russia's response was "disproportionate" and "brutal," wailed Bush.
True. But did we not authorize Israel to bomb Lebanon for 35 days in response to a border skirmish where several Israel soldiers were killed and two captured? Was that not many times more "disproportionate"?
Continued
Just in case you missed this jewel:
12 Year Old Girl Tells the Truth on Fox News about Georgia. This is a keeper.
"Fox News even had to cut them off right in the middle of the account of Georgian aggression even though they had just come from a commercial break 2 minutes prior to that."
And now US taxpayer will pay for Georgia's ethnic cleansing ...
http://www.freestate.tv/2008/08/17/us-taxpayer-to-pay-for-georgia’s-wrecked-economy/
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is exploring ways to assist Georgia’s economy including how global financial institutions can help limit economic damage caused by the conflict with Russia, a senior U.S. Treasury official said Friday.
Assistant Treasury Secretary Clay Lowery said the situation in Georgia was “fluid” and it was hard to know how much harm was done to the economy and investor confidence since the crisis erupted over the breakaway South Ossetia region.
“We want to be supportive of the Georgia economic situation going forward and that includes bilateral and multilateral needs,” Lowery said in an interview with Reuters.
While the White House has flexed its political muscle to force Russia to pull troops out of the region, the U.S. Treasury has tried to reassure investors over Georgia’s young democracy.
“The most important thing is for the fighting to stop (but we also) want to ensure there is confidence so that investor flows continue,” Lowery said.
He said the U.S. wanted to make sure that the conflict did not take away from the impressive economic progress and reforms in Georgia that produced China-like growth levels of 11 percent in 2007 despite Russian trade and transit barriers.
Focusing in on the other players beside US ...
War in Georgia: The Israeli connection
For past seven years, Israeli companies have been helping Gerogian army to preparer for war against Russia through arms deals, training of infantry units and security advice
The military cooperation between the countries developed swiftly. The fact that Georgia's defense minister, Davit Kezerashvili, is a former Israeli.
Insightful article out of Israel
Thanks Joe
Thanks for posting this Gorbachev video. I love this man. He is honest and tells it the way it is. (Very unusual for politicians as we all know.) I remember when HE ( not Ronald Reaguns) ended the cold war he came to the States and was greeted like a rock star. He is a man of peace. Trust me on that one. What he says in this interview you can take to the bank.
FBI conclusions in anthrax probe meet skepticism
Aug 15, 2008 (CIDRAP News) – The Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI's) recently revealed conclusion that the late anthrax researcher Dr. Bruce Ivins committed the anthrax letter attacks of 2001 has been greeted with skepticism by many in the scientific community.
The FBI reported its conclusions and published a collection of documents about the long-unresolved case last week. The revelations came on Aug 6, only 9 days after Ivins, whom the FBI was about to charge in the case, died from an overdose of painkillers. In the anthrax attacks in the fall of 2001, five people died and 17 others were sickened after envelopes containing anthrax powder were mailed to two US senators and several media offices.
Ivins had worked at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) for many years, doing research that included work on anthrax vaccines. Early in the investigation, he analyzed some samples of anthrax from the 2001 attacks, according to media reports.
The FBI's case against Ivins is mostly circumstantial. But at its core is a claim that FBI experts and other scientists developed a new DNA fingerprinting technique that enabled them to match the letter anthrax to a batch of anthrax that was in Ivins' custody at USAMRIID in Frederick, Md.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/bt/anthrax/news/aug1508anthrax....
Th PeoplesVoice.org...an ally in truth
I was not aware of http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org
Check out their content. They are UN-controlled
The 7th Anniversary Of 9-11 And The Cycle Of War Vincent L. Guarisco 08/15/08
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/08/15/the_7...
Rep, thanks for posting this! This is a keeper.
peace.
When did Swiftboater Joe Corsi become a 9/11 CTer?
Corsi is scum. Why is he jumping on the thermite bandwagon? Is it to discredit Professor Jones' and to his work look like just another crazy theory?
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As Politico noted this morning, Corsi "has left a trail of wild theories, vitriol and dogma that have called into question his credibility."
Corsi told Politico, "I wrote those to be provocative and I said I would not use that kind of politically incorrect language again, and I don’t believe I have."
Democrats seeking to discredit Corsi have pointed out that he’s made other interesting comments, such as in a January 29, 2008, interview with a conspiracy-minded radio host (listen here) when Corsi said the US government wasn’t telling the whole truth about what happened at the World Trade Center during 9/11. Corsi gives much credence to the claim by physicist Steven Jones who claims the towers exploded because of explosives inside the building.
"World Trade Center dust forms the iron sphere that can only be formed at extremely high temperatures," Corsi said, "jet fuel doesn't…The government's explanation of the jet fuel fire is not a sufficient explanation to explain the evidence of these spheres – these microscopic spheres – that Steven Jones has proved existed within the WTC dust."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/democrats-seek.html
This is Making the Rounds
The science is sound
The above movie was made to criticize Corsi AND the "Truthers".
Do not criticize anybody for joining the the reality based community who want a scientific and legal approach to the political mass murders of 9/11.
Corsi is not perfect, but there is no need to throw stones at him. I would welcome all to study and dissimenate the science presented and discussed in places like www.AE911Truth.org . It does not matter what these people thought and said in the past, hurry up all of you, and change paradigm to the reality based world. Imagine if you just recently had a shift of paradigm, and then the "mainstream truthers" treated you with disdain! How would you feel? What would your next thought about the truther community be? I would welcome Colin Powell, and even Barack Obama to show some wisdom and join the 9/11 Truth community. Hurry, this is the summer of TRUTH !! http://truthaction.org/?q=node/235
Love,
Dr Beeth
I disagree.
Please check this out drbeeth;
http://911blogger.com/node/17179
Mr Corsi has a problem with the truth.
Let me make this more clear:
Thanks for the links, I checked them out.
I see this from a further off perspective: We all want to be ”truth-tellers”, and some take this role more seriously than others.
We can only see the truth from the perspective we have acquired in life: if you grew up in red-neck country South Carolina with semi-criminals later involved with the National Rifle Association, and military buddies at varying degrees of sanity, you could still be a ”good-guy”, and help your friends understand what is actually going on in the world.
I feel Alex Jones has done an enormous amount of good in helping people come around to a perspective or paradigm shift that perhaps we have allowed the executive of this country to start amassing too much power, and it is time that we reverse this trend. I don’t know Corsi’s track record on truth, and even knowing Kerry was a member of Skull and Bones, I still voted for him. When I saw how Kerry just stood by as a student asking him a legitimate question was tasered while held to the ground, I can not bring myself to criticise anyone who warned about Kerry’s integrity. He was known as ”the smoke screen” in Massachusetts for good reason.
Let me make this more clear:
Anybody who will confront our politicians to come clean on their analysis of how and why 9/11, the Anthrax attacks, and London 7/7 were pulled off, they seem on the right track to me. I will not trust ANY politician, American or European alike, who refuse to give me a clear stated stance on this, that makes sense in scientific and legal terms. If their answer is that ”they have not studied it” or, that they do not feel it would enhance their political career to bring up the subject, then they have a ticket to my full disdain, and we should all recognise that these cowards without a backbone have NOTHING to do with defending OUR interests in OUR political institutions.
Election time is coming: Review the US Presidential candidates stances here: http://rockcreekfreepress.com/CreekV2No8-Web.pdf
My sincere wishes of success to all the truth tellers of the World !
Dr Beeth
"unflinching, unswerving, fierce intellectual determination, as citizens, to define the real truth of our lives and our societies is a crucial obligation which devolves upon us all. It is in fact mandatory. If such a determination is not embodied in our political vision we have no hope of restoring what is so nearly lost to us - the dignity of man." (Harold Pinter)
And let me be clear.
The "Big Tent" approach to 9/11 Truth is over.
The days of rushing with open arms to embrace someone who is new to 9/11 truth with no critical observance of their public statements and published work, in particular, is WAY over. Individuals who are publishing lies to make money, and further a political agenda on top of that, are not friends of the truth. Thus, they are not our friends.
This approach has saddled 9/11 truthers with clean-up after clean-up, debacle after debacle.
At this site anyhow, the big top is closed, and some clowns are being laid off.
You have a point there Reprehensor,
” Individuals who are publishing lies to make money, and further a political agenda on top of that, are not friends of the truth.” Of-course I agree on that.
This being said, we should be respectfully critical when we see incompatibilities, and give credit where credit is due.
I am a General Practitioner, Reprehensor, so of-course I welcome EVERY individual’s awakening to a paradigm more based on reality. Those who refuse to acknowledge reality, and choose to live with a non-reality bound mental construction often end of having psychological or psychiatric disturbances. As I doctor, I care at-least as much for those patients. Imagine what it would be like, treating the military coming back from traumatic service. They did not always do the right choices in life, but they are all equally entitled to my respect and care. Among them are also, no doubt, arms-dealers and persons who have participated in government misconduct at very high levels. They too deserve my care and compassion, and if I can help them to understand that their current course has a bad karma, and that there are alternative options that can make this World a much more fun and better place, then I will always have a go at it.
Please go easy on limiting the size of your tent. Remember, the education needed to get the large masses to understand what happened on 9/11 will start taking hold when the message is sufficiently present in the whole world’s collective consciousness. We still have some work to do, since we need to succeed with this education task before the end of September 2008!
Maybe you should not lay off your “clowns”, but instead encourage what they are doing right, and give them feed-back on what you believe they could do better! Sorry, I know it is a lot of work, but the results will be worth it!!
Love,
Your friend and co-truther, Eric
www.patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Beeth
And what if the clowns are paid to be contrarians?
And thus, insensate to reason or logic?
To what end then is spending rhetoric on these individuals?
Or, what if they are utterly rigid in their belief in specific theories. Earnest, but not malleable at all.
My experience is that to harbor these types ultimately only winds up trying the patience of the majority who then finally lose patience and drop standards of politeness. It has happened here time and again.
By far, however, the proponents of theories that have no popular acceptance among 9/11 truthers, (due mostly to a lack of scientific practicality), are agressive! They bring condemnation upon themselves, and inspire divisive behavior, and aggressive rebuttals!
Sir, we are not "friends", we are barely acquaintances. We are not enemies, but let's take baby steps, shall we?
There is a whole army out there paid to be contrarians.
You mean the Trols! YES! I know they exist, and I understand your exasperation.
Then, there are the Bozo’s, with a foot in their mouth, and who don’t have a clue…
I can imagine you have met and dealt with many categories of truthers, and they are not always an easy bunch. Thank-you for your patience and courtesy, like youv’e shown with me.
I understand that the Clowns are not easy in your role as ”Reprehensor”. But I kind of like them. In their humor, they can often pass a message much stronger than more conventional truth tellers. I used to consider David Icke a Clown. Watch the three hour talk by him below: yes he once brought ridicule upon us, but no we should not distance ourselves from him.
I’m all for the baby-steps. In my smaller communities in Sweden and Belgium, we most often talk to each other on a first name basis, and know each other. I understand this is difficult in a country of 300.000.000 !
I do respect your work at 9/11 Blogger very much, and hope together with you for a very auspicious end of summer 2008 with 9/11 Truth going main-stream!
All the best, Dr Beeth
I.O.U.S.A.
http://www.iousathemovie.com/
ABOUT THE MOVIE
Wake up, America! We're on the brink of a financial meltdown. I.O.U.S.A. boldly examines the rapidly growing national debt and its consequences for the United States and its citizens. Burdened with an ever-expanding government and military, increased international competition, overextended entitlement programs, and debts to foreign countries that are becoming impossible to honor, America must mend its spendthrift ways or face an economic disaster of epic proportions.
Throughout history, the American government has found it nearly impossible to spend only what has been raised through taxes. Wielding candid interviews with both average American taxpayers and government officials, Sundance veteran Patrick Creadon (Wordplay) helps demystify the nation's financial practices and policies. The film follows former U.S. Comptroller General David Walker as he crisscrosses the country explaining America's unsustainable fiscal policies to its citizens.
With surgical precision, Creadon interweaves archival footage and economic data to paint a vivid and alarming profile of America's current economic situation. The ultimate power of I.O.U.S.A. is that the film moves beyond doomsday rhetoric to proffer potential financial scenarios and propose solutions about how we can recreate a fiscally sound nation for future generations.
Creadon uses candid interviews and his featured subjects include Warren Buffett, Alan Greenspan, Paul O'Neill, Robert Rubin, and Paul Volcker, along with the Peter G. Peterson Foundation's own David Walker and Bob Bixby of the Concord Coalition, a Foundation grantee.
Pointedly topical and consummately nonpartisan, I.O.U.S.A. drives home the message that the only time for America's financial future is now.
Catherine Austin Fitts speaks out
...on the housing bill, I.O.U.S.A and the economic context for understanding 9/11.
http://www.solari.com/archive/housing_bill/
Also looking forward to the Cynthia McKinney interview with Carol Brouillet on Monday.
Election Integrity Issues...
30 minute interview with Stephen Spoonamore ~ former CEO of Cybrinth. Paper Ballots.
http://www.velvetrevolution.us/prosecute_rove/images/Spoon_Full.wmv
Goes along well with Mr. Clinton Curtis' testimony. He is a computer programmer from Florida
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs
Energy Independence News.
New Way Of Storing Solar Energy Discovered
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/oxygen-0731.html
Giant Kites To Harness Wind Power
http://devicedaily.com/misc/giant-kites-to-harness-wind-power.html
@OpEdNews.com
http://www.opednews.com/articles/9-11-Afghanistan-Iraq-G-by-scott-creigh...
August 14, 2008 at 23:16:51
9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Georgia, Iran, and Pakistan; The Vulcan's Path to The Caspian Sea Basin
by scott creighton
www.opednews.com
One of the first things this administration did was meet with Dick Cheney’s Energy Task Force in early 2001. Those meetings were kept secret and they have refused to disclose who was actually there, and what was discussed. We all know that.
“The Washington Post reported on November 15, 2005 that it had obtained documents detailing how executives from major oil corporations, including Exxon-Mobil Corp., Conoco, Royal Dutch Shell Oil Corp., and the American subsidiary of British Petroleum met with Energy Task Force participants while they were developing national energy policy. ”Wiki
One thing MOST don’t know, is that Ted Olsen defended the Vice President’s office in keeping these meetings secret before the Supreme Court. Olsen ALSO represented this administration in their bid to stop the recount in Florida, thus putting this administration in the White House. AND, his wife was on one of the planes during 9/11, and is the only one on record (according to Ted Olsen, since it was really HIS testimony ABOUT the phone calls (that the FBI in the case against the “20th hijacker” said didn’t happen) from Barbara that established the whole “box-cutters” theme.
Curious isn’t it? How ONE man is so intertwined in the whole story line.
What don’t we know?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/9-11-Afghanistan-Iraq-G-by-scott-creigh...
Hear Presidential Candidate Cynthia McKinney on No Lies Radio! Live Broadcast! National 911Truth.org Movement Conferenc
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Hear-Presidential-Candidat-by-No-Lies-R...
The 7th Anniversary Of 9/11 And The Cycle Of War
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-7th-Anniversary-Of-9-1-by-Vincent-G...
Mark H. Gaffney: Was 9/11 an Inside Job?
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/link.php?id=66528
After Cheney's Energy Task Force
"At the start of President Bush’s first term in office, Vice President Dick Cheney chaired a high-level government task force on energy, several months after the Council on Foreign Relations released its independent Task Force report, “Strategic Energy Policy: Challenges for the 21st Century.” The Council’s initial report is updated here, taking into account the Bush administration’s energy policies during its first six months in office. "
Task Force Members included:
ODEH ABURDENE is managing partner of Capital Trust S.A.
GRAHAM ALLISON is Director of the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard University’s John F.Kennedy
School of Government and Douglas Dillon Professor of Government.
JOSEPH C.B ELL is a Partner with Hogan & Hartson, L.L.P.
PATRICK C LAWSON is Director for Research at the Washington Institute
for Near East Policy
FRANCES D.C OOK heads the Ballard Group LLC
JACK L.COPELAND is Chairman of Copeland Consulting International
CHARLES B.C URTIS is Senior Adviser to the United Nations
Foundation and the President of NTI
TOBY T.G ATI is Senior International Adviser at Akin,Gump,Strauss,
Hauer & Feld, L.L.P.
LUIS GIUSTI currently serves as Non-Executive Director of “Shell”
Transport and Trading, and as Senior Adviser to the Center for
Strategic and International Studies.
DAVID L.GOLDWYN is the principal of Goldwyn International Strategies,
LLC.
MICHELT.H ALBOUTY is an internationally renowned earth scientist
and engineer.
AMYMYERS JAFFE is the senior energy adviser at the James A.Baker
III Institute for Public Policy of Rice University and President of AMJ Energy Consulting.
MELANIE A.KENDERDINE is the Vice President of the Gas Technology
Institute.
JOSEPH P.K ENNEDY II is Chairman and President of Citizens
Energy Corporation.
MARIE-JOSEEKRAVIS is an Economist and Senior Fellow at the Hudson
Institute.
KENNETH LAY is Chairman and CEO of Enron Corporation.
JOHN H.LICHTBLAU is Chairman and CEO of Petroleum Industry
Research Foundation, Inc.
JOHN A.MANZONI is Regional President for British Petroleum in
the eastern United States.
THOMAS F.M CLARTY III is Vice Chairman of Kissinger McLarty
Associates.
ERIC D.K.MELBY is a Senior Fellow with the Forum for International
Policy and a principal in the Scowcroft Group.
SARAHMILLER is Editorial Vice President and Group Editor of the
Energy Intelligence Group.
STEVEN L. MILLER is Chairman of the board of directors, President,
and CEO of Shell Oil Company.
ERNEST J.M ONIZ is a Professor of Physics and former Head of the
Department of Physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
EDWARD L.MORSE is Executive Advisor at Hess Energy Trading
Co., LLC.
SHIRLEY NEFF is an Economist for the Democrats on the Senate
Energy and Natural Resources Committee.
DAVID O’REILLY is Chairman of the Board and CEO 0f Chevron-
Texaco.
KENNETH RANDOLPH is General Counsel and Secretary of Dynegy,
Inc.
PETER ROSENTHAL is Chief Correspondent on energy and
commodities for Bridge News.
GARY N.ROSS is Chief Executive Officer of the PIRA Energy Group.
JEFFERSON B.S EABRIGHT is Vice President of Policy Planning for
Texaco, Inc.
ADAM SIEMINSKI is the Director and Global Energy Strategist at
Deutsche Banc Alex.
MATHEW SIMMONS is President of Simmons & Company International,
a specialized energy investment bank.
RONALD SOLIGO is a Professor of Economics at Rice University.
MICHAEL D.T USIANI has been Chairman and CEO of Poten &
Partners since 1983.
PHILIP K.V ERLEGER JR.is President of PK Verleger LLC and a
Principal with the Brattle Group.
ENZO VISCUSI is Group Senior Vice President and Representative
for the Americas of Eni.
CHUCK WATSON is the Chairman and CEO of Houston Dynegy Inc.
WILLIAM H.W HITE is President of the Wedge Group Inc.
DANIEL YERGEN is Chairman of Cambridge Energy Research
Associates.
MINE YÜCEL is Senior Economist and Assistant Vice President,
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas.
Follow the link for the full report: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3535.htm
I wouldn't be surprise if there was some overlap between this group and the group that planned 9/11.
I haven't posted anything
I haven't posted anything for a while.
Anyway, as this is an open thread on any topic. Can someone tell me what the bumper music is for the The Global Research News Hour on RBN with Michel Chossudovsky?
Also on a similar topic what is the bumper music for Webster Tarpley's show?
I'm a bit of a philistine when it comes to classical music :)
Thanks
Paul Craig Roberts
says the Russia-Georgia conflict was sanctioned by the White House:
DIGG discussion: Georgia conflict in relation to 9/11 Truth...
Four more sides of the story here : Georgian reintegration minister, the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, the Peace Loving Georgian people and former Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Michael Gorbatchev.
Georgian reintegration minister, Temur Yakobashvili As interviewed in the Haaretz : "It was a matter of screwing or being screwed." www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1011396.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9hbLooJYOI Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov addresses a wide range of issues surrounding the future of the Caucasus region including Abkhazia, the role of the U.S. and media coverage of the conflict on "Russia Today TV", with english translation.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9848 The Georgian Peace Committee asks World public opinion not to identify the current Georgian leadership with the people of Georgia, with the Georgian nation. Please note: if you follow the "DIGG" on this story, you will find an interesting discussion that connects the story to the citizens working for 9/11 Truth !
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjbwlyguEGY August 14th 2008 Gorbachev Defends Russians In Georgia on Larry King Live, 3pts - Part I (7min)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPDIwh2sbhA&feature=related Gorbachev explains the dangers of allowing military budgets to spiral, and the need for an atmosphere of trust. (8 1/2 min)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSAqB5FzmVA&feature=related Saakashvili get a chance to respond to Gorbachev (8 min) on Larry King Live.
BTW: About the URGENCY involved for the New-York Ballot initiative, I contributed this: NOW is the time for Miracles ! THIS IS THE SUMMER OF TRUTH !
www.911blogger.com/node/17158#comment-194689
We are in this together www.911blogger.com/node/17160#comment-194701
Love
Dr Beeth
Also : Thanks for the "I met the Walrus" animation interviewing John Lennon !
"unflinching, unswerving, fierce intellectual determination, as citizens, to define the real truth of our lives and our societies is a crucial obligation which devolves upon us all. It is in fact mandatory. If such a determination is not embodied in our political vision we have no hope of restoring what is so nearly lost to us - the dignity of man." (Harold Pinter)
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Putin's Winning Hand:
Once the Atlantic Alliance is shattered, America's lifeline to the world is kaput
By Mike Whitney
There are no military installations in the city of Tskhinvali. In fact, there are no military targets at all. It is an industrial center consisting of lumber mills, manufacturing plants and residential areas. It is also the home to 30,000 South Ossetians. When Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili ordered the city to be bombed by warplanes and shelled by heavy artillery last Thursday, he knew that he would be killing hundreds of civilians in their homes and neighborhoods. But he ordered the bombing anyway.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20535.htm
Gorbatchev describes Georgia Attack,, Media "Lies from Begining to End"
Video
Click To View
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20534.htm
Energy War
Russia-Georgia Conflict Fueled by Rush to Control Caspian Energy Resources
Democracy Now! Audio & Transcript
Human Rights Watch has accused both Russian and Georgian forces of killing and injuring civilians through indiscriminate attacks over the past week of fighting. Professor and author Michael Klare joins us to talk about how the Russian-Georgian conflict is largely an energy war over who has access to the vast oil and natural gas reserves in the Caspian region.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20538.htm
Out Damn Blot
A Letter to Colin Powell
By Ray McGovern
You have said you regret the "blot" on your record caused by your parroting spurious intelligence at the U.N. to justify war on Iraq. On the chance you may not have noticed, I write to point out that you now have a unique opportunity to do some rehab on your reputation. If you were blindsided, well, here's an opportunity to try to wipe off some of the blot. There is no need for you to end up like Lady Macbeth, wandering around aimlessly muttering, Out damn spot... or blot.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20536.htm
Georgia: Another Neocon Farce?
By Sean Gabb
I am a citizen of a country that was a principal actor in the two big wars of the twentieth century. I believe that these wars were unnecessary for the security of my country and killed unimaginable numbers of people. They also destroyed British primacy in the world and were the means of transforming Britain from genuine liberal democracy to politically correct corporatism.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20518.htm
Icke's latest
Anyone who reads my posts knows I have the highest regard for David Icke. The man has devoted his life to unmasking the truth. Now he is running for Parliament. Not to win but to expose "The Big Brother State" Here is a url to his latest video. It's a must for all truthers to watch. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4799447112501062338&ei=RlKnSL30...
I second this recommendation:
I thoroughly enjoyed watching the full 3 hour performance of David Icke, including the excellent political illustrations and humor. David Icke gave some well deserved punches to today's generation of journalists of the Main Stream Media. The punches where all the more heart felt, since he had been so severely ridiculed, and shunned by those very same journalists, but today, given the seriousness of the implication Icke is talking about here, all of us should make an effort to try to understand what it is Icke has been concerned about for quite some time. There is no reference to "reptiles" among us, or weird ET beings, it is very much about the political constellations of our day. As a humanist, I still believe we need a strong UN, and that the European Union CAN make for more TRANSPARENT democracy, with respect to all the regions desire for control over the issues that concern them most, and are their natural jurisdiction.
We need to track down the criminals who have lobbied their way into this humanist and democratic movement, in the so called interest of "safety", private banks, global corporatist strategy and more nefarious military interests. In this "Black and White" world of today, their deceitful lies have become very visible, and through the paradigm of people like Icke and the 9/11 Truth community, we can better start identifying what is wrong with our current course, and start inventing better ways to push ahead to a more harmonious and trusting world community.
Love,
Dr Beeth
Thank You Dr. Beeth
Finally someone on this page understands what David Icke is all about. Even our top 9/11 truther, Alex Jones is in Icke's corner now. This man has spent the last 20 years searching and documenting the truth about how the world really works. How many of us can say that? I sure can't. As far as the reptilian thing goes who gives a crap who is pulling the strings, evil humans or reptilians? It makes no difference to me. We are being controlled and manipulated and that is the bottom line. There is a NWO in the works that MUST be stopped at all costs. 9/11 was just the tip of the ice burg. This rabbit hole runs very deep. As far as the reptilian thing goes, the history books are loaded with references to this being a reality. ( Check out the bible sometime ) It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Icke is right about that subject also. Everything he has said in his books over the years has happened. People who once laughed at him and called him a nut job are not laughing any more. Thank God this man stuck to what he believed in. That takes tons of guts. How many of us could have handled the trashing he got? Not many I can assure you. I know I couldn't.
"The Big Brother State"
David Icke puts it all into a three hour nutshell.
David Icke Alex Jones
The dynamic duo tell it the way it is. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-397495977395954314&ei=m7-oSKyLD...
Gwatney, Clinton favorite, shot dead/gunman killed ..
....by police. There's more there than meets the eye. It's the usual dead suspect story,.
Gwatney wanted to break up plans of Howard Dean and Donna Brazile for the DNC.
Bill Gwatney 48 Shot Dead
...don't believe them!
Anthrax story.....now possibly...Cyanide attack?
This story may have been overlooked even by discerning readers?
I first heard a dead man with no ties to the Denver area found in his hotel room. There was no mention of cyanide or a pound of it present at the scene --or of his origins from Somalia.
Heaven forbid, but could it be a covert op meant for the DNC?
Death Due to Cyanide
When you read foul play not suspected...suspect it...everyone has a pound of cyanide handy, don't they?
...don't believe them!
Kevin Ryan on FreeSpeechTV's Keynote all last week
I was very pleased to see this week's Keynote on the FreeSpeechTV channel (available to all DISH and DirectTV customers) was Kevin Ryan's excellent presentation "A New Standard for Deception". Keynote is one of their cornerstone programs and is shown many times throughout the week, so that's a whole lot of great Truth programming coming into a lot of people's homes.
I hope this bodes well for their future programming choices. I've complained a number of times in the past that this channel trots out loads of 9/11 Truth programs during pledge drives (clearly they know what viewers want!) and then the topic seems to dry up once the fundraising is over (unless you count INN World Report, which has been excellent on 9/11 Truth reporting).
Pakistan Gun Culture
FYI
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1gizg_vice-travel-darra-pakistan_short...
I suppose if people are allowed to post David Icke stuff...
I won't get bashed too hard for posting this, something I found the other day...
From the 1999 film "The Matrix":
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/282/12665matrix22jpgnl8.jpg
Just another coincidence, or were the makers trying to tell us something?
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"If I had just paid $20 million for the NIST report, I'd be asking for a refund!... The trouble with the NIST Report is that it isn’t even science because it's not capable of being verified or negated!" -Dr. Frank Greening
Dan Rather&John McCain on 9/11:"State Sponsered Terrorism?"
Just saw a train
It was headed north with at least 60 pre-built and ready to bury bomb shelters...errr survival pods.
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Together in Truth!
out of the blue from Sen. Feinstein
I can't even remember what this (form) letter may have been a response to, but today, Mon. 8/18/08, I get this from Sen. Diane Feinstein:
Thank you for writing to me with your thoughts on the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 and the continuing government response. I appreciate your comments and welcome the opportunity to respond.
The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks on the United States closed on August 21, 2004 after releasing the 9/11 Commission Report. The Commission was highly critical of the governments actions, citing a lack of imagination to envision the full scope of what a host of prior terrorist events meant for U.S. homeland security as well as a failure to connect the dots that might have led to the revelation of the 9/11 plot. The Commission also provided several important recommendations to reorganize government to fight the battle against terror. If you would like to view a full copy of the Commission's report, copies are available at many bookstores and through the 9-11 Commission's website at http://www.9-11commission.gov.
On December 5, 2005 the 9/11 Public Discourse Project, comprised of several members of the 9/11 Commission, followed up on the Commission's recommendations with a progress report and found significant remaining deficiencies in government policy which we continue to work to remedy.
The 9/11 Commission Report did not find evidence of intentional Government complicity in the September 11 terrorist attacks. The Commission was a bipartisan group comprised of many respected leaders who worked exhaustively over many months reviewing millions of records and conducting countless interviews - including of the President and Vice President of the United States. Even if you feel their criticism of the Government might have gone further or uncovered more, I believe our current efforts are best focused on trying to implement the improvements recommended by the Commission - an area in which we still have much work to do. I remain committed to the pursuit of policies that protect Americans from terrorism while safeguarding important civil liberties and will keep your thoughts in mind as I review related legislation.
Again, thank you for writing. If you have any further comments, please contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
What a BULLSHIT Letter!
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