Alex Jones & Geraldo on the "Suicide" of Deborah J. Palfrey - FOX News
constitutional911 Sun, 05/04/2008 - 6:30am
Breaking News!
Geraldo At Large On DC Madam With Alex Jones 5/3/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIMhXqM-seM
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Too bad Alex
didn't get time to ask him about his Times Square opinion!
Is Geraldo trying to make up?
This is divisive garbage,
This is divisive garbage, what's the point of hating on AJ exactly? Go get your own radio show man, go do your own thing and discover you need money to expand the platform on which your trying to get truth out to people. I think you’re way too cynical.
What you believe AJ is owned
What you believe AJ is owned by ABC? You've bought into that junk? I thought you were smart dude. ABC lease out bandwidth to stations like GCN from what I've heard, it's like saying 911blogger is owned by the server company who they pay to provide the means to make this site what it is. Again, I thought you were smarter than that cus it's kind of glaring bullshit.
And if you want to hate on AJ I can supply bags of useless negativity towards Michael Ruppert, I think he is an asshole for what he said about the Loose Change guys being CIA and all the bullshit he pulled, so nobodies perfect here.
Well what do you mean by
Well what do you mean by hold him accountable? He's not pushing "no planes" junk etc or espousing violence or blaming the Jews. He's not perfect, but nobody is and if you actually look at what he's achieved its overall very positive.
DHS: Divisive Disinfo Expert
After reading this entire thread I am convinced that DHS must have been issued the same provocateur textbook as Haupt, Fetzer, and the rest of the Trojan-Horse Truthers. It's like he went down the list of divisive techniques, bullet-point by bullet-point. Quite impressive actually.
Actually...
No, he wasn't issued "the same provocateur textbook as Haupt, Fetzer." And he is anything but impressive. :) He is mad about certain things, and I can't say I blame him.
Granted, I'm not willing to post 100 comments about it. I said my peace, and I'm moving on.
Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?
Agreed, Jon
I saw all those comments and thought we had a lively debate going, not one person with a very large axe to grind.
sigh
Feeling better now that you're in the moderation queue, DHS?
Love is a verb, brothers and sisters, let's get busy!
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
I'm not...
In the moderation que anymore. I liked being there. I could never say anything stupid. :D
Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?
Its now widely believed that
Its now widely believed that bush administration is the most secretive administration ever so "9/11 was a 'cover up'" would appeal more than "inside job".
A cover up for what? Why mince words at this late date? It was
an inside job, just say so.
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Yet another divisive comment by DHS. What's up with you, son?
The truth movement is starving for publicity. The shirt is like a portable billboard.
BTW the repetitive slashing you do, ///////////////////, I noticed Nico Haupt used to do that. Strange.
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".... ///////////////////, I
".... ///////////////////, I noticed Nico Haupt used to do that. Strange."
Really strange indeed.
DHS has also been attacking a recent post on Loose Change - Korey Rowe.
Korey Rowe at East Stroudsburg University : http://911blogger.com/node/15378
Hmmmm. Strange indeed.
Divisive.
Seems suspicious to me alright.
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The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it
I agree with Rowe. No way did a Boeing with a 125' wingspan
disappear through a 16' initial impact hole.
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Rowe is absolutely correct that AA-77 did not slam the Pentagon:
How could flunky Hani Hanjour have flown all the way back from Ohio/Kentucky, and why/how could he have made those incredible acrobatics to hit the tiny, renovated section?
How did “hijacked” AA-77 fly all around the Eastern U.S., 45 minutes after the WTC was struck by 2 other “hijacked” airliners, without it being intercepted, pursued, or even observed/photographed by NORAD/Air Force?
Why won’t the gov’t release any clear video evidence of what struck the Pentagon, more than 6.5 years later? Why is it still some top secret?
What happened to the airliners virtually indestructible 2 huge steel/titanium engines?
How did they obtain DNA (delicate organic material) for 63 or 64 passengers when the seats, luggage, and most all of the airplane were supposedly vaporized in a fireball @ 530 mph?
What were Cheney & the “young man” demonstrating in front of Minetta? Why was the airliner’s location given as: “50 miles out”, “30 miles out”, “10 miles out”??? Out from what--did Cheney know the target??? Why didn’t Dick or the young man warn those in the Pentagon to get away from windows & take cover???
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Saying flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon is a step too far....
Saying flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon is a step too far, present the facts, the size of the hole, the flight path contridictions, the eye witness edivence, but dont fill in the blanks yourself.
There are enough facts there to disprove the 'official' govenment account, you dont need to add to it with what you 'Believe.'
Concentrate on the facts! people can argue with opinions, they cant argue with facts.
Sweet Memories.
alex jones arrested we are change fox news 9/11 truth 07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ27ucTdQaI&feature=related
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Beautiful, here's the best version I've found of it:
Geraldo Rivera gets ambushed by 9-11 "Truthers" on Fox News
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ey8LRoFPrOo
Also:
Geraldo Rivera gave the "9/11 Truth" The Finger
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M_l1LvSoD48
Nice of Alex...
To appear on a show hosted by someone that accused us of being terrorists (and didn't bother to call him on it out of the box, and instead managed to get a plug for his site, the most important thing). Too bad Geraldo isn't smart enough to put the same kind of "mysterious" facts concerning the 9/11 attacks together, as he was with this apparent "suicide".
Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?
I agree
The Plug for Infowars was my point and original headline.
Its good the website got airtime on Fox of all places so hopefully people will browse and come across some serious alternative information on 911.
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Come on, Gold. Alex got some good publicity for his excellent
Infowars site. (I'm sure you could learn a great deal there yourself.) Gerry Rivers & FAUX aren't going to let Alex talk about just anything he want to on their CIA-run network.
Under the circumstances, Alex did a fantastic job, as always!
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Alex got a mainstream media oppourtunity, & he made the best of
it. I sugget you visit his http://www.prisonplanet.com/ as well.
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Jon........
i agree as well. Something is wrong with this picture. Don't get me wrong here. I visit Alex's web page everyday. The one thing that concerns me is that to those of us that know how corrupt the system has become some of things he says could be to much to handle in one bite for the blind
I really didn"t like the intro Geraldo gave Alex. CONSPRACY THEORIST.
Correction :
It's not true that women don't or only rarely hang themselves
( if you look at percentages ) :
Method : Hanging, strangulation, suffocation
Men : 22.7%= 5,887
Women : 20.2% 1,361
http://www.suicide.org/suicide-statistics.html#2005
But it's still an effective way to hide murder, very difficult to determine for sure if it was self-inflicted .
Men are 4-5 times !! more likely to commit suicide ?
I knew there isn't equality between the sexes here either but not that it's that bad ..
Maybe it's time for us men to start asking if we are doing something wrong with life ?
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It takes one's breath away
to see Alex Jone, who was arrested during Geraldo's show, on TV cameras, in the middle of a 9-11 protest, and indeed it was one of the most successful protests, now appearing on Geraldo's show and billed as a mainstream radio talk show host . I think this is testimony to Jones's growing popularity and success (and the growing public acceptance of the 9-11 movement he champions), something even FOX cannot afford to ignore. Remember, Geraldo did not have nice things to say about the 9-11 people that day, and Alex was one of them. This is an example of Jones taking the high ground and Geraldo capitulating, a harbinger of how change can be effected..
tshirt
Im waiting for it to arrive at Hot Topic
wtf?
what's your fuckin problem DHS? someone piss in your cheriois this morning? Something in your life you don't like?
Alex didn't post the ad for the shirt dumb ass... like really, get a clue!!!!!
Geraldo is the one who has had to suck it up and bring Alex on the show... have you ever heard of the 7 second delay? do you honestly think the producers are going to let Alex rant about a different topic? are you really that slow? Putting Alex's name on prime time in a positive light will only drive more people to the information he is delivering.. delivering in a manor that costs bigtime bucks... bucks which don't grow on trees and have to be raised... does he ask for donations? NO... does he ask you to purchase works of his in order to support getting the information out? YES... do those works support anything negative??? NO
so hang your panties at the door and don't let it hit you on the way out!!!
Personality.
You can't deny his personality gathers publicity. He's a fiercely independent Texan. I hate chanting, but I'm not going to hold anything against people who do it. It takes all kinds, I'm skeptical of Alex, but I haven't seen anything that makes me doubt his commitment to our cause.
I've been following Alex for several years & I'm not skeptical
of him whatsoever. You should listen to his daily webcasts over the net or on shortwave. It's cutting edge 9/11 truth & exposing those behind it, the NWO/globalists.
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painties at the door please...
pussies aren't wanted here... we need real men to fight this fight.
The show called all three guests conspiracy theorists....nice try lol
Did I say "most fox viewers are going to go to his site" ?? no ...nice try lol
I know you're not sure where the 7 second delay comes in.... that's why you're whining around like a little bitch... but if you pull your head out of your kulu for a moment, you would realize that if Alex were to try your idea and blurt out something off topic, the producers hit the button and cancel the interview. Your lack of television experience and bitterness is way to obvious.
He says those things on the shows because it is a new world order being carried out... do you think Bush and the other idiots who have publicly stated it's a new world order are lying??? duh ....it's an info war Mr Bitter ....we need numbers awake to the reality in order to have a chance at defeating it when the final chapter comes upon us.
the day you start working 16 hours day in and day out for free and reach as many people as Alex has, and can still afford to pay the mortgage and feed your family, I will eat my words. I will also pay for the publishing of the for sure best selling book that would come out of such an amazing feat....
Does he support...
Efforts like the "Week Of Truth", the families petitions that have been put forward as well as their calls for a new investigation, movies like 9/11: Press For Truth, and In Their Own Words: The Untold Stories Of The 9/11 Families, or just that which will bring him money? Show me one posting of his from the September 11th Advocates. Just one. I listened to Alex debate Ron Wieck. Make sure you go to prisonplanet.com, infowars.com, and google Terrorstorm, Endgame, and Martial Law. That is basically the message I got from Alex. Alex is in this for Alex. That is the impression I have gotten from him over these MANY years. Sorry, but I don't do what I do for Alex Jones.
Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?
True?
If anyone accuses Alex Jones of being in it for personal gain or profit, it seems you'd have to accuse Steve Alten of the same charge?
You might be right..
I can see where you get that idea with Alex. I agree with a lot of what you say. I just know Steve Alten's deal with me buy a book, so if he gets to the New York Times Bestseller list he can donate 5% to the victims seemed a little self interesting to me.
And it's in no way criticizing your determination and activism, because I know you get the job done in this movement. It's obvious.
Business vs Person
That he makes money doesn't disqualify him as a messenger of alternate news.
And here we are as DHS intended arguing amongst ourselves about the efficacy of Alex Jones the messenger.
DHS is spiking this thread.
Why I don't know . . . but discussing the messenger rather than the message is something I thought Rep was going to police here.
ad ho·mi·nem
–adjective
1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ad%20hominem
Has Alex Jones conated to the Feal Good Foundation?
Strawman argument . .
Right, its strawman to ask
Right, its strawman to ask that someone who supposedly supports the victims and their families to actually do something other than parade them around and aggressively ask them to say "911 was an inside job" on their show.
Sorry for hurting your feelings by questioning your hero.
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Great minds ... think for themselves.
Alex Jones
ok, you've convinced me that Alex Jones is selfish and just wants to make money . . .thanks . . .now I can go back to getting my news from Katie Couric.
DHS is just polluting this trhead . . . Ad Hominems are frowned upon here. Character assassination that is.
And I'm sorry . . but Alex is on Fox news and the week of truth was lame . . . case closed.
My mother and father who are retired professionals now listen to Alex because his information in general is accurate and his predictions come true no matter how bad you want them not to.
Richard Greene is a good guy but he lets Webster Tarpley ramble on the radio debating some guy with pentagon talking points . . . lame . . . so lame.
Mike Malloy is just special.
What the fuck is Lionel talking about?
Yes, I am a fan of Alex Jones and yes I wish he were crazy so that I could be reinserted back into the matrix where the steak tastes so damn good. I grew up in a small town and rode my bike and marched in parades on the 4th of July. It was nice back there.
Gold, how does one increase his audience in a capitalist
society???
Your argument against Alex Jones is foolish, divisive, and a complete waste of time. Move on.
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There are different paths
Not everyone has to do the same things to promote 9/11 truth.
Alex Jones for Free.
Alex Jone's daily radio broadcasts are available for free in a looping 24 hour cycle and in a user friendly format. His documentaries are available for free on Google Video and he specifically encourages people to copy and burn his doc's to dvds and pass them around. I've learned a ton of information from Alex Jones and all for free. If he wants to hawk his shirts and his stuff well that is his right. Plus a plug for infowars.com is a good plug in my opinion. That site is put together real well.
What does surprise me is fox news who I hate is the only station with the balls to ask Jesse Ventura his views on 9/11 and have Alex Jones on the air. Where is CNN and MSNBC. Too cowardly to confront these issues.
I've considered that.
Many times. I still am wary. But I the publicity at this point seems to benefit the movement. He supports Luke Rudkowski, who along with Alex Jones are both strong advocates of non-violence and the Gandhi and King approach to change.
Mostly Betsy...
I have helped with the posters, the flyers, the ads, etc... I don't have money, and most of what I do have has gone to this cause.
Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?
Alex Jones also puts loads of money back into the cause.
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They are murderers, you silly shill.
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So many I's in your posts
For someone so obsessed with condemning ego and personality, you sure put a lot of
I did this
I did that
I created
I mailed
A whole lot of self centered and self serving comments.
pffftt. Look who's promoting his own ego and righteousness here.
one possibility
"What does surprise me is fox news who I hate is the only station with the balls to ask Jesse Ventura his views on 9/11 and have Alex Jones on the air. Where is CNN and MSNBC. Too cowardly to confront these issues"
I agree with your sentiment. I also loathe Fox, but notice that they will sometimes go where nobody else will. Another good example is the Carl Cameron piece on Israeli spying and 9/11. Yet another example, in a roundabout way, is the news report that Fox news suppressed on Monsanto back in 1997. While they could be blamed for not following through on it, I don't think any other major network would have the courage to even begin a thorough investigation confronting Monsanto, which is one of the most morally repugnant and confrontational corporations on the planet.
I think there is still some idealistic sentiment within Fox that creeps out now and then that they are rewriting the rules of broadcast journalism, and it makes them more audacious at times.
As others have noted, though, I would certainly not discount controlled opposition as a factor either.
Maybe FOX/CIA know they're going to lose, & they are gradually
going to turn themselves toward truth before it's too late. Of course, this is speculation.
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Our objective is to expose the criminal elements of government
This is great exposure.
It positions Alex Jones as a credible source, because he is "authenticated" on national TV.
It exposes another criminal act of elements within our government.
This is on the road to 9/11 TRUTH.
It makes our movement "more approachable" by the public.
Alex did a fantastic job.
...and as for me...
...I will keep posting signs and putting our flyers and DVDs and info cards and promoting 9/11 Truth. That is my hat. It is all of our hats.
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If one does not thoroughly LOOK, the TRUTH is not visible.
I've criticized Alex for
I've criticized Alex for lack of solution based thinking and it still bothers me. He's an emotional dude who wants to awaken other people and their activism and solutions. He's an educator. He does support the most effective activism and solutions in my opinion through WeAreChange. He also helped finance and distribute the movie Loose Change: Final Cut and is currently working with a very sharp activist by the name of Jason Bermas. If he turns out to be controlled opposition, we'll have to deal with that. But until he starts calling for violence or whatever else, I'm thinking he's with us.
What are your charges of him being controlled opposition, which I'm sure our movement is going to have to deal with, specifically? His personality? His success? He doesn't spread disinformation as far as I know, he doesn't turn people away, his numbers are growing, he gets the celebrities. He doesn't advocate violence.
Webster Tarpley & his books are still fine with me.
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Tarpley--who?
He's so five minutes ago, luv.
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Maybe William Cooper was right all along
William Cooper warned people about Alex Jones long ago.
You don't have to ADVOCATE violence... you just have to stir up emotion....
Think "I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore".
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Great minds ... think for themselves.
Maybe William Cooper was right all along
Maybe William Cooper was wrong all along?
Is there a special disinfo class where they teach you blog spiking . . . this is like text book disinfo.
Divide and conquer- keep
Divide and conquer- keep arguing and counting the days to the next 9/11, then we can start the cycle allover again without achieving anything.
Do you really think we can afford to be critising people within our own movement? there is enough of that coming from the outside.
Alex jones has broken some of the biggest people to come out for 9/11 truth- regardless of him selling t-shirts. His work is amazing at the moment.
Also to go on Geraldo I think was a smart move- I mean surely no one here actually thinks Geraldo is personally responsible for 9/11- his worst crimes are aiding the cover up and official govenment line and attacked the truth movement- wether he knows it or not.
While there is no blood directly on Geraldos hands, he potientially can be turned to 9/11 truth, even for selfish reasons like saving his own career, when the tipping point comes. And now it is gonna make it harder for him to attack Alex next september at the protests, as he has had him on his own show.
My point is we should always have a hand out to everyone as they could always potientially be future allies. You have to play the game and not alienate ourselves further.
I agree with you to some
I agree with you to some extent- that about corey rowe is shocking for example. I think this is a battle that needs to be fort on all fronts, alex spereads the truth to certain types of people, whilst others will take more notice of the scientific edivence or the contradictions within the comisssion report.
What we need to concentrate on is having all our people delivering a united message, and in my opinion that should be through the science, the work of Stephen Jones and Richard Gage is the best in the truth movement because it is all FACT- no theory there, no 'I believe a plane other than 77 hit the pentagon.'
Anyone can be a voice for 9/11 truth as long as the message is the same.
Controlled Demolition is not
Controlled Demolition is not 911 Truth? WTF?
What is then?
I would argue that
I would argue that everything else is just speculation though- he said she said stuff- people can lie, science cant.
What do you propose to do? protest and wave signs until the people admit to it? Get the scientific community on our side and no one can argue with that. Scientists are people of intergirty and are use to breaking barriers. ( thats their job)
But regardless- we need a united message!
Its really simple- this is a
Its really simple- this is a crime, a mass murder. How do you solve a crime?
Scientists piecing together the edivence in a lab? or going pointing the finger until they confess?
Good luck, but Im with CSI.
So what do you sugest we do?
So what do you sugest we do? Remember we are on the same side here.
Well again to an extent- but
Well again to an extent- but this is America remember, who are people gonna listen to? you or celebrities?
I think your just dividing the movement when we should be uniting.
The messanger is not important its the message.
More people speading the word wether they are celebrities or just regular people is the issue, but making sure they are spreading the right word.
Again- T-shirts are not the issue here.
Unity not division please!
Thats all very well but I
Thats all very well but I think you are forgetting that we are making progress. Who is the biggest celebrity in America? whoever it doesnt matter- I think we are pretty close to getting him to come out for 911 truth and then it is out in the open and we can start having the debate in public- because at the moment the problem isnt getting people to believe us, its just getting the message out there, the edivence speaks for itself and cannot be dismissed. It is all about tipping points- and I honestly believe we are nearly there- there are new high profile people joining our cause every week- how long will it be before someone joins who cannot be ingored?
Thats the way to do it, along with everything else, including your ideas!
Like I said its a battle being fort on many different fronts and sooner or later the tipping point is gonna come, and we are definatly making progress- surely no one can deny that?
We just need to unite more and keep on doing what we are all doing! nor fighting between ourselves. Surely you agree with that?
Alex Jones at this point is doing much more good for the truth movement than bad, and thats good!
So which would you prefer?
So which would you prefer? Articles that are ridiculed by morons and that inteligent people can draw their own conclusions about? or no articles at all?
The very fact that there are articles is progress! Remember Ghandi
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
There not ignoring us anymore- progress is being made.
I am not really a paranoid person but I am really starting to think there that there is more going here with you- I mean how can you seriously be telling us that splitting up the truth movement is a good thing? And also your denial of the work of Stephen Jones as a important, that doesnt make sense to me. Have you actually looked at his work?
Agreed
There are a lot of things I dislike about Alex, such as his less than stellar record of putting evidence together. E.g., he uses some joking statement from Prince Philip, known for his offbeat sense of humor, to drive home his argument about the power elites wanting to lower population.
Maybe of more concern is his tendency to avoid anything that might implicate Israel in anything. His otherwise excellent short video excerpt on the USS Liberty is the only piece I have ever seen that makes it look like the attack was planned by the United States from the outset to take over the Middle East, as if that was an American priority in 1967 during the Vietnam war!
If at some later point, fair investigations point to agents of the Israel government as being involved in 9/11, then I don't want an Alex Jones to try to steer us away from that conclusion.
But until that time, I respect all the work that Alex has done. I like his relentless approach and manner, which is both affable and a little gruff. Maybe avoiding criticism of Israel is something he simply has to do for now...in the current repressive climate, you can't take on everyone at once. He brings a lot of value to the table, let's give him some slack.
Aside from the no-planes theorists, who could actually destroy 9/11 Truth by drowning it in looniness, I think it is wise to avoid infighting wherever possible.
There is tons more evidence about eugenics than Alex (and many
other researchers) have revealed. Why do you disparage all this as merely some joking remark of Prince Philip? Have you watched Jones' "Endgame"? It's free on the web.
Yes, the NWO/globalists do want to contol us.
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For starters
who was talking about eugenics? Jones makes a big deal out of Prince Philip saying that he'd like to come back as a virus in order to cure overpopulation, as if Philip were spelling out policy. The truth is that Philip has always had an odd sense of humor that may be his way of dealing with all the lame pomp that comes with being an English monarch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh
Using that as an argument is about on a par with Bill O'Reilly wanting Mike Malloy arrested for saying he has violent fantasies about McLellan and Perino. These are meaningless joking statements by individuals, not indicators of policy.
Nice statement. Let's cut out the "divide & conquer"
Nice statement Cooper. Thanks. I have the excerpt below because this thread is blown out of proportion and straggles with divisiveness.
All this derogatory chatter against Alex is not really helping things.
Alex has done a lot for the 9/11 TRUTH movement.
This was a great action where Alex got onto mainstream TV with a hot topic. This helps in the road to 9/11 TRUTH.
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...I am gonna go out and pass out some DVDs and info cards instead of waste my time reading all the negative stuff against Alex.
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Here is part of Cooper's thread
"Divide and conquer- keep arguing and counting the days to the next 9/11, then we can start the cycle allover again without achieving anything.
"Do you really think we can afford to be critising people within our own movement? there is enough of that coming from the outside.
"Alex jones has broken some of the biggest people to come out for 9/11 truth- regardless of him selling t-shirts. His work is amazing at the moment.
"Also to go on Geraldo I think was a smart move- I mean surely no one here actually thinks Geraldo is personally responsible for 9/11- his worst crimes are aiding the cover up and official govenment line and attacked the truth movement- wether he knows it or not...."
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I agree...
to an extent with Jon RE: this issue.
I have expressed more times than I can remember that I personally believe we (as the ones who question government, authority, etc.) often put too much
emphasis and dependence on Alex Jones' to be the "voice" of our "movement".
YES - he has done a hell of a job with his research.
YES - he puts in a hell of a lot of time into things
YES - he should be credited for many things he does.
But does that mean we put him on a pedestol as a united mouth for the movement - in general - that questions governments and their authority over the people? I don't think so. That's CENTRALIZING power, CENTRALIZING voice, behind one person... If I recall, isn't that what we are all against?
Yes, his character makes him an easy choice for those to place in front of an audience. But don't forget what we so fiercely believe upon and let that hinder in our efforts both internally and externally of this movement.
I respect Alex - alot - for everything he has done. But I will continue to voice my opinion ten fold about my beliefs on having one person be the mouth, be the face, and be the symbology of my beliefs and my god-given right to question things that don't make sense.
Regards,
Mark in Philly
http://www.FealGoodFoundation.com
After 911 it has been so hard to trust people
and i looked up who owns GCN and found out it is ABC
http://spirituallysmart.com/Jones-CIA.htm
It is not ABC
false - what did you look up . . . are all of you in a room a central command together.
Yes, these brazen false suicides make me a bit paranoid.
Different strokes
Whatever you say about his style, Alex Jones has woken up masses of people through his work.
David Ray Griffin has also woken up masses through his work.
Both effective, just different styles. So what?
You don't like Jones? -- turn the channel like it's bad TV.
If 911 truth is to go mainstream, it WILL have diversified proponents--hopefully these people can keep their egos in check.
(The perps of 911 love to hear the type of infighting on this thread.)
Maybe Alex doesn't like you
I called his show one time and nobody picked up . . .what a jerk Alex is . . he wouldn't answer my phone call.
Perhaps Alex thought you were a divisive shill, as do I.
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If you don't know the answer to that
then you don't know what Alex Jones has been talking about all these years and you need to do some more homework.
9/11 is just one of many false flag attacks carried out by the central banks/military industrial complex/cocaine importation agency.
For some reason the perps are screwed up sexually and like to fuck little boys and masturbate to videos of people being tortured.
The CD Madam catered to these folks so she could have been in possession of some mind boggling information.
The perps had her wacked and arrogantly think they can get away with it
What is so significant is that Fox new had a program where the host and all guests think the "suicide" stinks to high heaven.
People think Alex hurts the movement because he talks about outrageous things. He does because the is reporting the news and that's what's going down.
"You can't make this shit up folks!" - Alex Jones
This is nothing but...
a positive development. Did you all see the clip where Guilfoyle brings all this stuff into question? I thought I was living in a parallel universe. How truthers can even begin to cast negative shadows on something like this is beyond me.
Truth, Beauty, Justice
The guy writing the book
journalist who reported that DC Madam would kill herself before coommitting suicide is a paid hack. All of his books are about debunking conspiracy theories.
Associated press puts out a press release and all the papers pick it up. . . looks like lots of folks are rreporting this but its all coming out of the pentagon or haven't you been keeping up with the news lately.
yes
because I say so
and because its true
Children children..........
Come on let's not consume the posts with a pissing contest. Alex on Geraldo? After that stint in NYC?
Alex introduced as a conspiracy theroist? WTF? Ever notice when it involves sex it makes the news? Yes i know it's more then sex regaurding this issue, but all in all in involves corruption in our government.
With all the justifiable questions of the 911 truth movement, and all our experts,and witnesses.
Stil NO major media in depth coverage ! This defines the definition of Bulls**t !
This was a major shift in a pattern
Fox news babes agree with Alex Jones and so does Geraldo.
Doesn't make fFox news any less of a piece of crap but it does signal a shift.
AJFan
......shift? Sometimes the obvious is totally opposite. Why is this an issue with the mainstream?
Can anyone who calls themselves a journalist be so stupid as to not look at everthing they can get their hands on? That being said. How could anyone believe the official fairytale on 9/11.
Alex on Geraldo?......on FAUX?.......Sorry the math somehow doesn't add up.
Ok DHS...don't leave your panties at the door...
take your panties with you then..... I mean c'mon... just imagine how many people haven't been woken up to 9/11 truth with your sure fired methods while you're whining around on a blog... are you against 9/11 truth? you must be against the family members if you would rather bitch on a blog than help them with your sure fired method.
I get what youre saying man.
I get what youre saying man. But it appears as if you've picked up a few detractors who would rather your comments become buried. Your frustration with the movement (however inarticulately it was stated) reflects a little looked at reality. Maybe part of that stems from the fact that typically its the 'debunkers' who raise the issues youre making, but that doesnt detract from the message.
If I get your point, its that the more sensational of us when given an outlet to spread the message speak about issues that are easy to become dubious of right off the bat, especially to a newcomer to 9/11 truth. Then once the person has spread the message and creates a loyal group of parrots, the message can be commercialized to feed the wallet and ego of the sensationalist. Thus, a movement once about a genuine heartache, betrayal, justice, and questions of accountability becomes of a movement of matter-of-fact assertiveness represented by questionable individuals who's beliefs often interfere with the presentation of certain facts.
If this is your objection, then I applaud your sincerity and willingness to detract from your peers in an attempt to begin a dialogue about a potentially real and serious issue.
Though I often kneel in the church of controlled demolition myself, Ive always taken Michael Rupperts advice about JFK and "back and to the left" quite seriously. Well that was almost 50 years ago. Zapruders tape came out in the 70's I believe, and to this day no one went to jail as a result. Mrs Kennedy had no justice, and the American people were never given answers. I dont want to see the 9/11 truth movement go down that same road, and rather than try to silence you with downvotes I would be happy to engage in your dialogue, since that's all you seem to want anyway.
Anyway Kimberly Guilfoyle is HOT!
Hot!...Sure is!
Glad you brought this out! She is hot ! It is a nice change of tone from all the other chatter.
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DHS we can agree on at least
DHS we can agree on at least this right lol?
I guess DHS does not think she is hot?
I think she is hot!
I can see.
I have eyes.
Dem Bruce Lee Styles, thanks for lightening things up.
If one does not thoroughly LOOK, the TRUTH is not visible.
Come on! Hot is hot. Do not strain for criticism.
Come on! HOT IS HOT.
Do not strain for criticsm.
Do not strain to cause so much disruption.
Do not struggle to find points of disagreement.
If one does not thoroughly LOOK, the TRUTH is not visible.
degrating women now....
So women are exotic pets now?? DHS's true colors shine... he would rather bitch on a blog than help family members and he thinks women are pets..
didn't you also say you were done about 4 or 5 messages back ? now your word means squat too!!!
Pests and "Pets"
Had I known this blog would have caused such a ruckus..........
Well - infowars got mentioned on Fox.
Any decent browsing of Infowars would lead to georgewashington's excellent blog posts and a great deal of good alternative information on 911 Truth vs the mainstream propoganda.
THAT was the whole POINT OF THIS POST.
Frankly, I do not care what anyone thinks of Alex Jones.
We just need to get the word out and INFOWARS is a source of good alternative 911 Truth information.
The DC Madam case is a Talking Point that can help us talk to people about a whole range of issues once the topic of Govt cover-ups are brought up.
Isn't this a good thing?
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Well said !!! constitutional911
Very well said ! constitutional911...very well stated:
"We just need to get the word out and INFOWARS is a source of good alternative 911 Truth information. The DC Madam case is a Talking Point that can help us talk to people about a whole range of issues once the topic of Govt cover-ups are brought up."
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This is a good thing and ties in neatly with getting the truth out about 9/11.
That Fox clip draws attention to alternative news. It draws strong attention to Alex Jones. And Jones draws a lot of attention to 9/11 Truth.
Can you imagine the advertising dollars it would cost to get this kind of link towards 9/11 Truth?! This Fox Report was a real winner for our side. The broad public will probably readily entertain or accept the premise that the DC Madam was murdered. They can confront that. Many will research Alex Jones. This is an entrance point towards people glimpsing at 9/11 Truth.
It is on the road to 9/11 Truth.
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Alex
did try to plug prisonplanet.com towards the end but was cut off.
If you listen carefully, you can hear him yelling out the website over the talking heads.
We should capitalize on this even though I will never trust Fox or Geraldo.
Lets use their tactics against them.
Corruption runs deep in D.C. and any issue that exposes that is an avenue to bring up 911 Truth issues for people's consideration.
Done rightly , subtly and smartly we can Force Multiply real quick.
DHS's divisiveness and nitpicking over slogans and messengers is PRECISELY what we CAN DO WITHOUT.
Let's keeps OUR FOCUS on our ULTIMATE OBJECTIVE OF WAKING PEOPLE UP AND CREATING MASS AWARENESS.
Arguments over Personality conflicts,Slogans and T-Shirts are distractions.
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DHS...
You made your point way back on the first page, but felt compelled to drag it out over 5 pages. You are concerned that the blog entry was posted on the front page in the first place, but felt compelled to make a spectacle of yourself arguing with many users.
Almost all of your posts have been voted under, and I'm blocking you for a while until you chill out.
Thank You Rep.
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Agreed.
Yes; thank you, Rep.
I think many of us were tired of hearing from Dept. of Homeland Security (DHS)
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I just heard on AJ's show
I just heard on AJ's show Wayne Madsen say her "suicide" has something to do with 9/11 prior knowledge or something. I don't know if that's bs disinfo or what, but if it bears out that makes this thing entirely relevant to 9/11 Truth.
Here's what I think is most likely going on.
Please don't vote this down just because you are an Alex Jones fan. He is fallible, and I do appreciate his contribution to 9/11 truth, if not much else.
Alex Jones was invited to speak on this topic for one reason only. FOX News wanted to create the perception that the only people interested in further inquiry into the death of the DC madam are "conspiracy theorists," as Geraldo referred to Jones.
Fox News and Geraldo have little respect for Alex Jones. Fox News and Geraldo have no interest in promoting the idea that she was murdered. As we all know, Fox News is a talking points promoter. Jones wasn't on the show to make his views look reasonable. Quite the oppsite.
They might have been reasonable, but they weren't well founded. He stated that she was murdered with nothing other than her assertion that she wouldn't kill herself. If she was going to kill herself she would not have announced it. They might have put her under 24 hour suicide watch.
Latest developments:
{{{The Pinellas County medical examiner's Office ruled the death a suicide. Authorities expect a final report once toxicology tests are finished.
Detectives from the Tarpon Springs Police Department followed several investigative avenues, but found "no new evidence would indicate anything other than suicide by hanging," according to Capt. Jeffrey P. Young.
The note to Palfrey's mother, 76-year-old Blanche Palfrey asked for forgiveness:
"Mom, I want you to know how very much I love and appreciate you. I sincerely apologize for any pain which I have caused you in this lifetime. Additionally, I can't sufficiently express to you how badly I feel for this burden I am leaving you with here," Palfrey wrote.
"However, I cannot live the next 6-8 years behind bars for what both you and I have come to regard as this 'modern day lynching', only to come out of prison in my late 50s a broken, penniless and very much alone woman."}}}
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/05/AR200805...
Now, despite the news above, I actually think it likely that she was murdered. BUT!!!!!!...that's a far cry from saying she was. Doing that plays right into the hands of those who might like to cover up what actually happened. And the news above makes is highly unlikely that any further facts will become available indicating otherwise.
And yet...
... Geraldo emphasized that he tends to *agree* with his three guests about this.