Seed Magazine science blog Respecful Insolence mocks 9/11 truthers
billybipbip Mon, 02/11/2008 - 10:00pm
A surgeon has a popular science blog where he is mocking 9/11 truth, he lets anyone post and doesnt censor civil debate so you can chime in if you want, they are teeing off on 9/11 truth.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/02/the_troof_hurts.php?utm_source=mostactive&utm_medium=link
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Another Steel Melting Straw-man
9/11 Cartoon: Steel Melting Double Straw-man
By Arabesque
A blog entitled Respectful Insolence posts a 9/11 Cartoon The "troof" hurts...
The cartoon asks the question "can fire melt steel" and gives a misleading answer.
Yes, fire can melt steel, but only in special conditions as Dr. Thomas Eagar explains:
Ironically, this cartoon found underneath the blogger's tagline, "The miscellaneous ramblings of a surgeon/scientist on medicine, quackery, science, pseudoscience" is actually a double straw-man. First of all the NIST report denies molten steel (likely because acknowledging molten steel would be very problematic for the official story--in contrast to what this cartoon would have us believe). Secondly, molten steel can only occur with the conditions described above by Eagar.
Did the steel melt at the WTC as denied by NIST? According to eyewitness testimony of "pools of molten metal", analysis, and other evidence; yes it did. With very unusual temperatures.
Is this the only evidence of molten steel? Hardly. In fact, "a fire protection engineer and two science professors" published a brief report about steel taken from Building 7, revealing:
What does it all mean? The NIST report denies this evidence even though some of it made its way into the previous FEMA report. This is exemplified by John Gross, who denied the existence of molten steel:
There is compelling evidence that the steel melted, and no official explanation has been given. Instead, official reports have been forced to deny the existence of molten steel to support the official story that fires caused the Towers and Building 7 to collapse.
Contrary to the insinuations of this cartoon, the truth is more complicated than the question: "can fire melt steel?" Indeed it can, but not in the conditions we are told existed within the World Trade Center on 9/11. It is an indisputable fact that jet fuel fires cannot reach the temperatures needed to melt steel. Not only this, the buildings were designed to survive plane crashes and jet fuel fires of the kind seen on 9/11.
Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, Architects for 9/11 Truth, and others are calling for an investigation to answer what really caused the molten steel and the unusual temperatures observed.
come on and join in people
people, its me vs 3-4 liberal shills
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/02/the_troof_hurts.php#c745922
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I think most people don't care enough to read the 100 or so comments though... writing a blog response is probably more effective.
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