of the general theme and structure of the NWO but Alex Jones makes it available in a polished presentation that will be compelling to many. And regardless of the disinfo and distortion that will now be directed against this documentary, as accurately pointed out above, I believe a good number of people will be persuaded by much of what is in the video. Will it be enough? Will it be soon enough?

Closer to home, will the 9/11 movement, which much of the current awakening (in all respects) is predicated upon, be able to move from - just - focusing on arguing the empirical data and rationale of 9/11 to the role of that event in the larger picture? Obviously, at least to me, the persuasiveness of 9/11 and effect of travelling down that 'rabbit hole' has made many aware. I believe the concerted cointelpro and disinfo directed against the movement does underscore its importance as a catalyzer of change of view. But, as other threads have argued, we must always seek the best ways of effecting change. Endgame actually appears to have a significant chance to become a factor in this process by expanding the argument in the sphere.

However, We must not forget nor neglect the basic 9/11 truth message. It has proven, I'll wager, the most potent beginning argument. Continue to fight to inform those who do not know.* But do not shy from considering and discussing the issue of the broader picture as well.

*I believe only a part of that battle is on the web...(and much of that is with 'professional' antagonists) - I believe the most important place to be is within communities, talking and persuading.

on edit: Others, braver than I, have not only encompassed these issues but have confronted persons of 'Power'; e.g., Confronting President Clinton in Mn. as a visitor to the Bilderberg Group ........

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behind the 9/11 false-flag, their plans for population control via eugenics, & a one-world-government dictatorship!

If anyone tells you that eugenics, false-flags, & mass murder is too gruesome or far fetched to believe, just remind them of Nazi Germany merely 65 years ago. A civilized, advanced society went from listening to Bach & Beethoven to blindly following "patriot" Hitler, into exterminating countless innocents in gas chambers! Physicians eagerly performed grotesque experiments on children that ended in horrifying mutilations and/or deaths! Some people are just totally goddamn evil, period!

If the above could & did happen to Germany not long ago, then Bush, Cheney, & their NWO masters could well have been behind 9/11, & evidence shows they were!!!

Everyone should see this. It shows the larger picture, which is just as important as 9/11 (or 7/7, or...).

Alex is calmer now, which helps get the message across to many.

Hmm... There really seems to be a "downvote patrol" here.

About an hour and a half through the film I was sitting in my chair think "Holy crap this is amazing work...everyone should see this". By the time I finished it I thought, "Ok wait a minute, where did I get lost here?"

It seemed like the ending had a rushed quality to it. The historical set up within the first two thirds was dead on and brilliant. But I was left at the end wondering what the end conclusion is. I don't know "what " it is exactly that threw me off, but it's there.

Regardless of my personal feelings for Alex Jones, I think the film started out INSANELY great. I was actually thinking this rivaled many Docs that I've seen. But there is something about the last 45 minutes, when it got into conjecture, that felt vague or loose to me. Like the "future plans for global enslavement" by means of eugenics or something similar, rested on the words of a few fringe people. Not that I don't believe it could happen, but it seemed almost too simple and convenient as a unifying "reason" for all this chaos.

Hope someone else can word it better than I can if they agree. It seemed to have elements of hype that I just couldn't grasp as a real THREAT. I found myself running through every scenario and past genocides, wars, famines, cataclysms, mass murders, police state tactics, to find myself saying "It's all about mass culling of the population because of the "Guidestones" or words from Kissinger?
I feel Alex was right about the merging of nations into Unions, the carbon tax scam, the Social Darwinism of the past and present, the Rockefeller role in so much of it, the sterilization programs. But I could have used more evidence that all of this was the Master Plan of the ages. Maybe I have to watch it again to see something I missed.

I hope I get it soon!!!

The Big Fella (AJ) has it seems to me a track record of being way out in front as a dot connector. A big picture visionary, a debunker of offical history, a retriever of buried facts.

Does "Endgame" have weaknesses? Of course it does. Is he essentially correct about eugenics and genocide? I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt because, like I said, I have been impressed with that rare intelligence that oftentimes compellingly ties the hidden histories together.

"Endgame" though will be indigestible to the uninitiated, to those who have only the dimmest awareness of "Bilderberg." Someone here made the excellent point that "Endgame" will lose people because it has no concessions. I have always thought that an argument gains strength when it concedes points. Like when Aaron Russo (R.I.P. Great Man) says Dan Rather isn't aware of the nefarious ends of CFR, of which he is putatively a member. The Big Fella indeed comes off as being an evolution denier, however I do think he cut corners in making such acknowledgments because his priority was to fit everything the NY Times ignores and suppresses into a long film

I do not consider myself well-educated but I think "Zeitgeist" makes a tremendous case for the essential fraudulence of Christianity, which of course puts it at odds with AJ, which in turn defines his limitations

In the final analysis, Endgame unfortunately is yet another 'almost'. There are many pieces I agree with but.... It is not a movie I will copy and disseminate to folks I know. Among the problems I noted the following:

Misleads, to my mind, about Darwin.

Can't handle global warming. Can't see that it is an emergency and it is being manipulated for the gain of the globalists. Not and either - or.

Lies about Bertrand Russell. Not good. Throws everything else under a cloud of doubt if they will lie about something so unessential to the plot. On edit: there are other things BR said that could have been used but were not.

Re: Peak Oil. It appears the Jonesians can't handle the possibility that peaking resources may be in fact the case AND that the elites are manipulating it. Duh. Hard concept for them. The fact I was banned from their forum for merely voicing that possibility regarding PO is proof to me of their intolerance for open discussion.

Anti-choice - against a woman's right to choose and to be informed of that right. That was implied in the flick. Planned Parenthood has done a great deal of good.

Can't seem to figure that the human race is indeed bursting out of the seams and the planet's eco system is seriously threatened. One can handle that fact and work towards humane and just measures to help reduce it.... though I agree with the theme of the movie that the elites are, as is usual for those asswipes, simply willing to exterminate huge numbers.

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