Anti-Semitic Associations Continue to Damage the Credibility of 9/11 Truth Movement
It has recently come to my attention that CNN has broadcast some pieces on Jewish "9/11 Conspiracy Theories". I am not absolutely sure when these were first broadcast, because the youtube videos have been re-packaged, editorialised and titled "9/11 was a Jew Job".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mlkrdqO5EI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnrGNFcKOr4
The videos are very anti-semitic. They use the label "Jew" over and over again in captions which have been overlaid on the original CNN piece, a typical Nazi-style technique. Basically this is disinformation, because it taints 9/11 Truth with the stain of Nazism, anti-semitism and holocaust denial. The news piece features Christopher Bollyn who has neo Nazi associations and Eric Hufschmid who is a holocaust denier.
These two men are not representative of the 9/11 Truth movement.
I am no fan of Israel, and I do believe there may have been some Mossad involvement in 9/11 - but this is a far cry from saying "Jews did 9/11". I believe several different intelligence agencies may have participated (some perhaps unwittingly) in 9/11.
It's disappointing to have to repeat this at such a late stage, but I must emphasise that this kind of claim is incredibly damaging to our cause.
I'm totally against against any form of racial profiling, but the fact is 9/11 has nothing to do with "Jews", OK? 9/11 was carried out by power elites who don't give a damn about races, or humanity for that matter. Some of them may be ethnically Jewish, some may be "Christian", some may be "Islamic", and they often play the race card to manipulate populations, but they consider themselves to be above most of humanity. They believe they are "born to rule". One of their strategies to use of ethnicity and religion to divide people, to create enmity which they can exploit.
I never mention "Zionism" in the context of 9/11. It is unnecssary and inflammatory.
I try to stick to evidence, such as the documented fact that two workers at the Odigo messaging service received warnings of the attack.
Or the Israeli "removalists" who turned out to be Mossad agents celebrating while the Twin Towers were burning.
Or the Israeli "Art Student" spy ring.
There are many mainstream references to these events which you can find by Googling the various search terms.
One thing's for sure: the mainstream will totally bury us if people continue to go on about how "Jews" did 9/11.
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Anti-goyism.
I'll bet there is no such thing as anti-goyism? Wonder why?
It should be considered very bad to be an anti-goyist.
Why not start an ADL for us goyim?
Phd Kevin MacDonald Author: the Culture of Critique
Anti Semitism should not be used as a weapon to halt a investigation against the facts.
I don't know who produced
I don't know who produced the YouTube video, but if their goal was to discredit the 9/11 truth movement-- and especially those of us within that movement who point the finger at Israel and the Zionist cause-- they have done a very good job.
The video mentions Wolfowitz and Silverstein, two people for who there is no direct evidence tying them to the attacks. But no mention of Betty Ong's phone call, or the the two individuals, Danny Lewin and Edmund Glazer, who were sitting in the seats she reported as belonging to the hijackers. And no mention of the truly devastating facts pointing to a past history of Israeli-Zionist false flags and Arab frame-up jobs-- like the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair, and the bombing of the King David hotel.
The video then continues with some (deliberate?) crappy grammar while saying "Jew-Jew" over and over-- but not mentioning Israel or the cause of Zionism. The video concludes with a long diatribe by M.C. Piper against Bollyn, while the graphic idiotically suggests that they are both Jews.
I have spent a lot of time on various forums investigating the Zionist angle to the 9/11 attacks. I have spent some of that time on "anti-Semitic" sites like Stormfront, Sign of the Times, and NOLAJBS. I have never encountered anyone with a mentality like the one displayed on this YouTube video.
I find it extememely unlikely that this video was produced by any "anti-semites." I will bet my kids' college fund that this video was actually made by "pro-Semites," with the intention of silencing those of us who look at the preponderance of evidence pointing to 9/11 being conceived and orchestrated by the Israeli state, with a Zionist network in the US government and media being complicit.
This video is disinfomation, dz. Please do not fall for it.
Also note that CNN
Also note that CNN publicised the website jewsdidwtc.com which a 5 minute inspection of will revel as a spoof site.
It is run by the GNAA, and registered to someone named Mike Miller. The GNAA is a famous internet troll group, and is not meant to be taken seriously.
You have actually made a very important point. If I wanted to discredit those who claim that Israel was involved in 911, I could pretend that I was someone who believed that theory and then make myself out to be insane and weird.
Then people would point at me and be put off from investigating the angle I am associated with. That is a subtle way of stifling criticism and misdirecting people through disinformation.
Correction
Actually, I meant that the GNAA site is registered to a Mike Miller, but the owner of the JewsdidWTC site is anonymous in the records.
Absolute
Disinformation, agreed.
False Flag Psychological operation
The title sums up this CNN piece.
CNN can go to hell.
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The 9/11 Truth Movement Is Not Anti-Semitic And Neither Is Ray McGovern
Personally, I'm tired of the fact that ANY criticism towards Israel is labeled "anti-semitic." Let's be clear, the criticism is NOT directed towards the people of Israel, or the religion those people participate in. It is directed at the criminals within Israel's Government, and those who think Israel should be protected no matter what, regardless of who it hurts.
The Bush Administration is, BY FAR the most criminal group of people ever to inhabit the White House. Most of them are Christian/Catholic, etc... Does that mean we should hate every single person that chooses Jesus Christ as their God?
NO.
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I agree with this
I notice that, very often, it is labels that ruin an argument. One label that becomes especially pernicious is 'Zionism.'
Zionists in Israel are, in general, a bunch of weirdos that most people are afraid to be around -- zealots, wackos, strange folks in general.
I doubt very much that Silverstein or Zelkov, or Wolfowoitz, or any of those other prominantly powerful and wealthy Jewish folks identifies themselves as Zionist.
Politicians capture the Zionist vote, just as Bush captured the religious right vote. Politicians use whoever they can, always have, always will.
These are power brokers, no better and also no worse than others we find elsewhere -- especially here among Catholics and Methodists and so on, but no one mentions their religion. But also in, say, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia or basically anywhere you find wealthy and powerful people.
They can have any religious background. It changes nothing... and in fact that is the problem. No discernable morals, i.e., no real religion at all. Unless it is the worship of money and power.
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So shall we BOYCOTT THE MSM?
Is Critisism of Israel Anti-Semitic by Norman Finkelstein
Student of course Silverstein, Zelkov, and Wolfowoitz are Zionist, all a Zionist is a unconditional supporter of the State of Israel that’s it. A man name Theodore Hertzl started the political movement of Zionism in1896 an one of his most famous quotes "Anti Semitism will be our best friend" The Jewish Race or religion is the only race or religion that has a weapon of anti Semitism and boy do they now how to use it ooouch!!!
Is Critisism of Israel Anti-Semitic
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Friend, you mention "unconditional support of the State of Israel."
The whole Israel thing looks to me more like a holdover from imperialism's hey-day. British rulers took over that territory from the Turks after WWII, since the Turks lost that war as Axis allies with Germany and Japan. Britain allowed the UN to give away, to European settlers, a large part of the formerly Ottoman (Turkish) Empire land called Trans-Jordan, or Palestine.
I personally hope that Arab Americans gain in political power, so as to act as a counterweight in the USA to the 'Israel right or wrong' lobby. I believe that Arabs -- or maybe it is Muslims in general? Not all Arabs are Muslim and vice-versa -- have similar population numbers in this country, or maybe greater numbers, so they should theoretically be able to do that.
arabs have gotten the short end of the stick
The Ottoman empire wasn defeated and dismantled after WW1. I wish the arabs had more influcence in our political process but they are scared to speak out and they out number the jewish people 2;1 but they are 60 million Christian Zionist who tip the scale of influence on the zionist side If you have study media ownership you will realize that they are all ardent zionist arabs have gotten the short end of the stick
The Ottoman empire was
The Ottoman empire was dissolved by Turks in 1924.It was not directly the World War that ended it.
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You folks are improving on my brief historical outline. Obviously, the Ottoman Empire was long gone by WWII.
But my points remain the same. This give-away of a big land mass owned by someone else could not have happened without imperialism/colonialism ruling the day, as it did at that time.
Britain drew the boundaries for most of those countries over there, and not for the benefit of the peoples living there but for 'divide and rule' tactics. It was masterful.
The 'divide and rule' tacticians just love it when people name some religious group as the enemy. It isn't any religious group. The enemy exists at the top of the power ladder.
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"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton
Racism pisses me off!
Especially racism that ties to yellow journalism. They are trying to make it an issue for racists, thereby promoting racism themselves to save the criminals. Those bastards!
I hate disgusting bigotry
I hate disgusting bigotry and when it's deliberately attached to an issue like 9/11 truth it makes me furious. Frankly this video appears to be something deliberately designed to smear 9/11 truth as an issue, rather than just some mindless anti-Jewish junk.
A lot of "Official story" defenders have their minds made up
about this, especially at Screw Loose Change. Their reasoning is that if information comes from AFP, Jeff Rense, or Bollyn, then automatically you are anti-semitic, Holocaust denier, Nazi sympathizer, blah, blah, blah. Guilt by association is how they view it, in fact, it's how they now view the whole truth movement.
This is an example of them; Here is an exchange from Col. Sparks and one of the SLC people on the subject of the association of Rense to Holocaust denial and truthers using his site for links to 9/11 related material.
CHF said...
Also, the please explain how Rense can be denying the Holocaust AND exposing Prescot Bush's Nazi conections.
Doesn't it bother you at all that you twoofers regularly find yourselves having to justify using Holocasut Denial sources?
11 April, 2007 15:22
To which Col. Sparks replied;
Doesn't it bother you at all that you debunks regularly have to manufacture allegations of Holocaust denial--to avoid explaining things like this:
Also, the please explain how Rense can be denying the Holocaust AND exposing Prescot Bush's Nazi conections.
Now give a bleeding explaination.
Their reply is; Why are you asking me?
http://www.rense.com/general75/whyhl.htm
http://www.rense.com/general50/ernst.htm
http://www.rense.com/general69/mustbe.htm
http://www.rense.com/general70/dzp.htm
http://www.rense.com/general63/exx.htm
Take it up with Rense.
Col. Sparks replied; You and your lot made the claim, now explain--in your own words. Links, like special effects, are to enhance content, not be a substitution for content.
Their reply is; I stated that Rense.com publishes Holocaust Denial articles - which it does!
The problem is that twoofers don't know when to pick their battles and so they find themselves defending such vile scum.
My statement to that was this;
Where did I defend Jeff Rense? I don't care for Rense, I don't bother with his site, because his site is what taints a real truth movement. Sites like his are what brings the lunacy perception to the movement. Besides, I really don't trust him because his father had connections with the CIA and Hughes aircraft, i.e. part of the MIC.
I can absolutely tell You that Col. Jen Sparks IS NOT a Jew hater, nor a lazy researcher at all, in fact she is extremely dilligent, intelligent, and she will challenge You at every step. I haven't ever seen her spread false info, and neither is she a paranoid punk kid. She, like I, want a new investigation into 9/11.
Thats who I am defending here.
His reply; CHF said...
"Where did I defend Jeff Rense"? (He highlited my question)
Never said you did.
So I used his quotes in My next post;
Well chf...You said here;
"I stated that Rense.com publishes Holocaust Denial articles - which it does"!
Followed by;
"The problem is that twoofers don't know when to pick their battles and so they find themselves defending such vile scum".
Such vile scum pertaining to..Jeff Rense, specificly?
I asked;"Where did I defend Jeff Rense"?
And your reply; "Never said you did"
To which i said; I suppose not specificly, but generally.
Now here is the logic they use in his last post;
CHF said...
Mike AntiNeocon,
Jenny defended Nazinyc and I said she was defending a Holocaust Denier.
She denied it and then quoted Rense, which she then also defended.
I have seen twoofers in such a position many a time, getting caught using such sources and then refusing to acknowledge the error or question the source.
Thus: twoofers don't know when to pick their battles and so they find themselves defending such vile scum.
The master class has always declared the wars; the subject class has always fought the battles.
No Problem With Rense Links
I skimmed through the info in those links above.
They are not noxious pieces of racist propaganda, just people expressing their opinion that the mainstream version of history may be wrong.
They oppose the imprisonment of people who express similar views.
What exactly is wrong with that?
The video which I posted at the top is much more insidious than anything on Rense.
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Another Red Herring
Thank you CNN and CIA. Unfortunately, people don't trust the MSM any more so this red herring isn't going to stop the truth from coming out.
Behavorial Conditioning 101(Review)
Unconditioned Stimulus(UCS)= anti-semitism
Unconditioned Response(UCR) = disgust
Conditioned Stimulus(CS) = 9/11 "conspiracy theories"
The CS is introduced with the UCS which elicits UCR. Repeatedly pair the CS and UCS and eventually the CS by itself elicits the UCR.
There is a nice toasty spot in hell for you assholes. Unlike dogs, humans have the ability to think abstractly to identify these techniques. You have been outed. I can't wait for the trials and executions to begin! Treat your fellow humans like animals and YOU WILL GET WHAT'S COMING TO YOU!
To learn more about behavioral conditioning look up Ivan Pavlov and B.F. Skinner. Knowledge will set you free!
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Next thing you know
talk about "black ops" will be considered racism.
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