nice job

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

That was a very one-sided interview - the Truth side. Kevin kicked serious butt. Mancow didn't even put up a fight. The tide is turning.

That they ordered the attacks, or at the very least, had a say as to when the attacks would take place.

July 21, 2001: US Official Threatens Possible Military Action Against Taliban by October if Pipeline Is Not Pursued Niaz Naik. [Source: Calcutta Telegraph]

Thanks to www.cooperativeresearch.org

Three former American officials, Tom Simons (former US Ambassador to Pakistan), Karl Inderfurth (former Deputy Secretary of State for South Asian Affairs), and Lee Coldren (former State Department expert on South Asia) meet with Pakistani and Russian intelligence officers in a Berlin hotel. [Salon, 9/16/2002] This is the third of a series of back-channel conferences called “brainstorming on Afghanistan.” Taliban representatives sat in on previous meetings, but boycotted this one due to worsening tensions. However, the Pakistani ISI relays information from the meeting to the Taliban. [Guardian, 10/22/2001] At the meeting, Coldren passes on a message from Bush officials. He later says, “I think there was some discussion of the fact that the United States was so disgusted with the Taliban that they might be considering some military action.” [Guardian, 10/26/2001] Accounts vary, but former Pakistani Foreign Secretary Niaz Naik later says he is told by senior American officials at the meeting that military action to overthrow the Taliban in Afghanistan is planned to “take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.” The goal is to kill or capture both bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Omar, topple the Taliban regime, and install a transitional government of moderate Afghans in its place. Uzbekistan and Russia would also participate. Naik also says, “It was doubtful that Washington would drop its plan even if bin Laden were to be surrendered immediately by the Taliban.” [BBC, 10/18/2001] One specific threat made at this meeting is that the Taliban can choose between “carpets of bombs” —an invasion—or “carpets of gold” —the pipeline. [Brisard and Dasquie, 2002] Naik contends that Tom Simons made the “carpets” statement. Simons claims, “It’s possible that a mischievous American participant, after several drinks, may have thought it smart to evoke gold carpets and carpet bombs. Even Americans can’t resist the temptation to be mischievous.” Naik and the other American participants deny that the pipeline was an issue at the meeting. [Salon, 9/16/2002]

There was a specific time frame for invading Afghanistan on the table. An invasion that required the 9/11 attacks as a pretext.

Coincidence or just a little TOO convenient?

Here's a simple illustration:

Good job Kevin.

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"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

"How dare he use his intellect on us!", Too pathetic.

Where did you learn those excellent debating skills Mancow?! Mancows class on debating must have taught him to declare someone is a loon when they make a good point. Ah-hem, I believe a fair debate would have not only declared Barrett the winner, but would not have compromised his ability to speak.

and that is why the world loves us. They love us for our artists. They hate us for our politicians. All this politics is making me crazy . It's all a bunch of words by a barrel of suit monkeys. Who has more fun than people.....monkeys.