Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Talks About 9/11
Camp Casey interview with Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern. He talks about running into ex-Secretary of the Department of Transportation Norman Mineta and confronting him regarding his testimony before the 9/11 Commission. Mineta testified that Cheney was well aware of the location and destination of Flight 77 (or whatever it was) and forced NORAD to stand-down and allowed it to hit the Pentagon.
(Includes the Mineta testimony at the end of the clip. Some people have suggested that Mineta was not talking about Flight 77, or conversely, the flying object that hit the Pentagon. Mineta is definitely talking about the flying object that hit the Pentagon. He knows, what it is, that he is talking about.)
Video at Information Clearing House, thanks, Joe;
11/03/06 Video - Runtime 7 Minutes
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sink your teeth in already
sink your teeth in already Ray, we need you.
He's close....
...funny, I always use the "sticking his toe in the water" metaphor where he is concerned.
Love the guy, but wish he would commit to 9/11 Truth.
Still, kudo's to him for bringing up the Mineta testimony; it's one of the best pieces of evidence we have and it needs all the exposure it can get.
I still smile when I think of Fetzer bringing that up on Fox (to their horror, I'm sure), and Mineta resigning the next day.
mcgovern is one of america's
mcgovern is one of america's strongest speakers...period. It appears he knows the official story is crap. he suggests that he hasn't fully investigated all the evidence but the Mineta testimony alone is enough...for the love of all things good and decent, he was the transportation secretary of the united states of america and said in front of anyone who felt like watching via CSPAN that they had plenty of time to blow up whatever it was that was heading toward the pentagon. if the air force couldn't handle the job then put a couple of gi joes out in the street with a couple of rocket launchers and blow it out of the sky the old fashioned way. Ray McGovern, speak out...America and the world could use your powerful and credible voice.
i dare say it wouldn't have
i dare say it wouldn't have been all that hard to shoot it down with a stinger or something similar...aren't those things heat seeking....i'm sure somewhere in Washington DC there was bound to one laying around...any fool watching TV knew that the plane was going to follow suit and crash into a building...if cheney was concerned at all with protecting the nation's capital city then he would have ordered someone out on the front lawn with anything they had...for crying out loud do something besides hiding in your bunker....maybe he could have grabbed his trusty shotgun and led from the front...now that's a novel idea for modern day master's of war.
Hear, hear: Mr. McGovern,
Hear, hear: Mr. McGovern, please speak out on 9/11, the full story!
Ray...
Told me he's going to watch 9/11: Press For Truth this week... who knows.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Jeez....PFT?....
....Jon, give him "Synthetic Terror".....
I mean, this is ridiculous.....the man is CIA and has briefed Presidents, and he has to do his research with the movement's documentaries (and a limited hang-out one at that)?....what is up with this?.....he should be explaining this to us, not vice versa.....
I'm mystified.
He has...
On SEVERAL ocassions. I've learned A LOT from Ray McGovern.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Gold, you can't have learned
Gold, you can't have learned a lot because we cannot see you using your knowledge.
However, you seem to be ready to abuse anyone who's ideas you don't understand.
You think you learned from Ray McGovern because he talks slow.
Jon....
....this guy's (Anonymous, naturally) post is BS....
I might disagree with you about the value and comprehensiveness of PFT,....but only respectfully....and I don't want to "argue" with you about it....we both know where we stand....
Ray McGovern
"For people to dismiss these questioners as "conspiratorial advocates", or "conspiratorial theorists"... that's completely out of line because the... The questions remain because the President who should be able to answer them, WILL NOT."
And I'm not going to get into an argument with you about 9/11: Press For Truth. Especially considering how it was received yesterday.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Jeez
At least he has not pulled an Alexander Cockburn, but I agree, his excuse is totally disingenuous. At any rate, he applauded the 911 truth movement.
In his newsletter Cockburn sites a professor who uses lots of physics equations in his article (that Cockburn cannot understand either) in order to browbeat 911 truthers.
Even that Zionist shitbrain Bill Maher (with lettuce and kosher pastrami) has now questioned 911 (thanks to Charlie Sheen's prodding). If only Al Gore had won in 2000 we wouldn't be in this kosher pickle and I doubt if the fact that Joe Lieberman as his VP candidate-- an ultra right wing Zionist hawk who posits that the role of the US government is to serve the interests of Israel-- would have really hindered our march toward dumocracy.
What we need
What we need is the likes of McGovern, Bill Christison (both ex CIA) and James Petras to provide a full critique of the history of the Pro Israel Lobby with 911. Victor Thorn has a book that broaches the topic, Jon Gold also posted a long essay on the topic. James Petras' powerful book The Power of Israel in the United States is must reading for anyone concerned with the death of American democracy and in direct relation to the 911 issue.
Ray seems like a good guy,
Ray seems like a good guy, but he's playing it safe. Considering he was an intelligence anylsyt, bet your best beer he KNOWS 911 was an inside job. He's just hedging and angling for now. Watch him like a canary in a coal mine.
I'd have liked to see a longer response to the voting question. Anyone else see "American Blackout"?
missed opportunity for Mineta
This video is only marginally useful, because ultimately McGovern says he didn't get an answer from Mineta. No new information here, except perhaps the pat on the back from McGovern to everyone here. It's actually quite depressing to see that Mineta, a guy whose testimony puts Cheney in the bunker at least 40 minutes before the 9/11 commission report (!), chooses not to elaborate on his testimony, and given his age it is obvious he never will.
10 bucks and a pizza says
10 bucks and a pizza says mineta is shaking in his dress shoes for his remaining golden years and/or for his family's safety if he even mentions his testimony. hopefully he writes a full account has it notorized or something and puts it in a safety deposit box for when he clocks out.
talk about whistleblowers
The main problem has always been the lack of whistleblowers coming forward - nobody dares to tell for whatever threats are against them. Now we can identify one of these: Mineta!
How cowardish can people be? Does Mineta think he'll live forever? What's his life worth compared to what is at stake with 9/11? Aren't there any heros anymore? and that in America, the home of the brave, NOT...
mineta
mineta paper
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth911/truth911/finalmineta.doc
contacting mineta?
i'm wondering if anyone knows how to contact norman mineta? do we know where he lives, a phone number, an e-mail, friends or family? i'd like to ask him some questions and show him the paper i wrote about his testimony.
Hill and Knowlton
He works for the massive lobbyist, Hill and Knowlton:
http://www.hillandknowlton.com/index/contacts
Norman Mineta
Vice Chairman
607 14th Street, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC, 20005
USA
202 333 7400
Send an email
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I believe they were the ones who sold the first Gulf War (re: babies in incubators). That was before Mineta worked there. But it should tell you that he works for THEM, not US.
thanks man... ya, i know
thanks man... ya, i know he's definately one of them... but from what ray said, it sounds like mineta is not aware of the contradiction. unless he read the 9/11 commission report or someone told him, he may not even know about the contractions in the final report.
Maybe...
He saw that his testimony wasn't mentioned in it, and figured it wasn't worth the read...
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
are we supposed to believe
are we supposed to believe that minetta is too dense to realize the implications of his own testimony?...doesn't bode well for his ability of making sure the nations pot holes were filled in properly as the old transportation sec. ;)
McGovern has some good
McGovern has some good quotes on the back of a couple of 9/11 truth books, including I think the 9/11 AND AMERICAN EMPIRE - PD Scott / Griffin volume, or one like it. He's obviously aware of what the story is. I think he's hedging his public statements for a couple of reasons - possibly if he'd come out earlier he never would have been allowed in the same room as Rumsfeld those few months back. Seems like a decent bloke - I like his comments in TERRORSTORM.
I just sent an email...
Dear Mr. Mineta,
You testified before the 9/11 Commission that you arrived at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center at 9:20, and Dick Cheney was already there. By 9:25, according to you, a young man came in and out of the room three times to tell Cheney the position of Flight 77, and asked for confirmation of orders. Orders that couldn't have been a "shoot-down" order because according to the latest Vanity Fair piece, fighter pilots claimed by 10:10:31, they had, "negative clearance to fire." So what order was it? Who is the young man, and why didn't he testify before the 9/11 Commission? Why did Dick Cheney claim that he had given a "shoot down" order? Why did the 9/11 Commission claim that Dick Cheney arrived at the PEOC by 9:58am? Why did the 9/11 Commission completely omit your testimony from the final report?
Any information you have would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Jon Gold
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Bush makes Kennedy Center appointments
Source: Associated Press
11/5/2006
WASHINGTON - President Bush has tapped Emilio Estefan Jr., the Grammy-winning producer and husband of singer Gloria Estefan, to serve on the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts board of trustees, the White House said Monday.
A Cuban refugee, Estefan has worked on albums for Latin music's most significant crossover artists, including Shakira, Ricky Martin and Jennifer Lopez. He is already member of the President's Committee on the Arts and Humanities.
The board of trustees is headed by the current and former first ladies and has members from Congress, the government of the District of Columbia and those picked by the president, among others.
Bush also nominated billionaire casino mogul Steve Wynn and former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta to serve as board members. Wynn opened a $2.7 billion resort and casino in Las Vegas last year and in September opened a $1 billion hotel-casino in Macau, a Chinese territory.
Mineta, the only Democrat to serve in Bush's Cabinet, stepped down in July. His six years as secretary made him the longest-serving head of the department since it was formed in 1967.
Bush also selected investor Elliott Broidy, AOL founding executive James Kimsey and real estate developer Sheldon Kamins.
In September, Broidy hosted a fundraiser with Bush at his Beverly Hills home. The event was expected to raise $1.3 million for the Republican National Committee.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."