100% official proof: Doubles on 911 at work
People might recall that the presence of Atta and Al Shehhi in Shuckums (Hollywood, FL) on September 7, 2001 posed a big challenges to the official story. Their heavy drinking in this bar has been witnessed by many and widely reported in the media. Yet the Commission Report states that Atta travelled to Baltimore the very same day.
The last flight from Fort Lauderdale (closest airport to Hollywood) to Baltimore took off at 7.30 p.m. If one assumes that all the reportings that have him drinking longer than 7 p.m. are wrong, that he managed 12 miles to the airport in a quarter of an hour and if he was still allowed to check in at 7.15 p.m. and that the reportings of Atta and Al Shehhi in Sarasota the same evening are wrong, too, than the drinking in Shuckums so far was no definite proof that Atta had a double.
This changed now with the publication of the evidences presented in the Moussaoui trial.
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution.htmlOpen the one on Atta (OG00020.02 at the bottom of the page)
Here you find now:
[b]On Sep 7 a wire transfer from Al Shehhi's and Atta's account happened on Sep 7 at 15:58.[/b]
This pushes the beginning of the drinking to later than 4 p.m. or somehow the alleged hijackers interrupted their session which has not been reported. It gets worse.
Now open the file on Al Shhehi (open OG00020.01 at the bottom of the list). Here you find:
[b]Al Shehhi made on Sep 7 at 16:56 in Deerfield Beach an ATM withdrawal fom Saeed Al Ghamdi's account and was taken on video.[/b]Now, how is this possible. At the very same time he’s supposed to drink in Hollywood which is 20-25 miles away. All reports talk of Atta and Al Shehhi drinking there. If Al Shehhi arrived just after 4 p.m. in Hollywood then he would have had to leave the bar right away in order to drive back to Deerfield Beach (where by the way he was coming from) and could only have returned back to Shuckums around 5.45 p.m. having left Atta alone for 1 ½ hours. All this is in inexplainable contrast to the Atta and Al Shehhi drinking in Shuckums. And I would very much like to see the video footage of Al Shehhi!
It gets even worse.
As officially stated in the already mentioned chronology on Atta he did take Flight 2719 from Fort Lauderdale to Baltimore on September 7, 2001. [b]According to the BTS the plane was scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Therefore Atta is on a flight to Baltimore while he is still witnessed drinking at Shuckums for hours....!
Therefore we can conclude that Atta and most likely Al Shehhi had doubles.[/b]
More info on this topic here:
http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3637
For further information on the alleged hijackers see “Tracking the alleged hijackers and their doublesâ€.
http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewforum.php?23
Thanks to John Doe II for sending this in.
Also, vote: http://wor710.com/pages/46363.php?
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Dear jfal, if the official
Dear jfal,
if the official FBI chronology presented as evidence at the Moussaoui trial is lying then this is punching a big hole in the official story.
Why should they lie?
Why don't they put Atta and Al Shehhi in Hollywood heavily drinking in Shuckums?
What sense does it make to present evidence of transactions done, flights taken and video footage of the alleged hijackers if all is a lie?
And again why should they lie about that?
Why?
If you bother to read my timelines on every single alleged hijackers you'll find plenty of indications that doubles are at work. Just read the summary thread and read eg the summary on Atta. This suffice.
It confirms once again, a
It confirms once again, a simple murder gets a bigger investigation than 9/11 did, get more suspicion than 9/11 did. And btw, a simple murder doesn't cost anyone $2 trillion
Government refuses to
Government refuses to authenticate bin Laden “confession video”
http://www.teamliberty.net/id284.html
Starstika:
Starstika: 911-Was-An-Inside-Job.mp3
http://www.starstika.com/beats/911-was-an-inside-job
The more you look at the
The more you look at the details of the attacks, the more the official story simply falls to pieces.
Right now +55% of Americans are willingly or unwillingly blind.
Let's keep pushing for the truth!
People might recall that the
I had some moderatley-religeous Muslim friends in college, and they would NOT touch a drop of alcohol!
Another motive for 9-11
Another motive for 9-11 crimes:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20060724/bs_nf/44218
Anon, the response I have
Anon, the response I have heard to that is Atta was just trying to blend in or that guys like him are taught they can skirt traditional rules if they do good for their cause in the big picture (by blowing up infidels or whatever).
Nonetheless, John Doe is an amazing researcher.
anyone listening to Fezter
anyone listening to Fezter on Unrandom Thoughts?
There's talking about 90% population reduction (specifics)
NSA eavesdropping program
NSA eavesdropping program ruled unconstitutional
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/17/domesticspying.lawsuit/
In a 44-page memorandum and order, U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor, -- who is based in Detroit, Michigan --struck down the National Security Agency's program, which she said violates the rights to free speech and privacy.
Taylor's ruling stems from a case filed by the American Civil Liberties Union. According to The Associated Press, Taylor is the first judge to rule the eavesdropping program unconstitutional.
I'm living in the middle of
I'm living in the middle of the biggest muslim community in Europe (I'm not a muslim) and I can attest that a muslim wouldn't smoke or drink alcohol. It's actually pretty hard to make or keep muslim friends, because they are not visiting a typical European bar. Just count the arabs/muslims in your local watering hole...
The whole official story is so weird, because they allegedly found a koran and so on.
Other Anon, but aren't
Other Anon, but aren't Muslims supposed to be pure or something leading up to their suicides, I don't know.
Also, was it really key to their success that they needed to routinely get plastered in saloons? Perhaps they were not “martyrs”, and they really just liked getting drunk in topless bars?
>I had some
>I had some moderatley-religeous
>Muslim friends
About the whole terror legent, I find it also hard to believe that they, the "Muslims" would be that religious.
There are these groups in the middle east, like Hezbollah, Hamas, etc. but I doesnt seem to me they're fighting for their "religious" fanatism, but rather against Israeli and U.S. influence.
The only ones always talking about a 'crusade' are the patsies like 'Uncle' Zawahiri and Osama-Bin-Audiotape-Laden.
And if Bush wants to start a 'crusade' to spread christianity in the middle east, he should better take a look into his 'homeland's churches, and see if they are as filled as they were 10-20 years ago - they aren't.
(Quote Bush 2000: who is the most important person for you? GWB: "Christ.")
Holy shit, great news! Let's
Holy shit, great news! Let's hope they actually abide by the ruling.
WOW, Ruppert says bye-bye to
WOW, Ruppert says bye-bye to the U.S. Crazy story.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081606_burning_bridge.shtml
>eally just liked getting
>eally just liked getting drunk in >topless bars?
It's not just that. They did outrageous things in other ways, too, such as letting a Cessna stand in the middle of the Runway and walking away. And 'miraculously' (Big brother CIA makes it possible) got away with it.
Wow, Al C. That Ruppert
Wow, Al C. That Ruppert article looks amazing^! I don't have time to read it now, but I will love to read it when I get home later! Thanks!
NSA eavesdropping program
NSA eavesdropping program ruled unconstitutional
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLI...spying.lawsuit/
Perhaps this is a plan for another attack.. to "convince" people the need for taps
Atta also consumed cocaine
Atta also consumed cocaine and had a quite interesting sex life. They visited one of the SunCruz ships.
Every real muslim would say that they have nothing to do with religion at all.
The same SunCruz ships
The same SunCruz ships connected to Jack Abramoff.
Oh what a tangled web we weave...
>Perhaps this is a plan for
>Perhaps this is a plan for another >attack.. to "convince" people the >need for taps
>CB | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 2:03 pm | >#
true. They will do everything now to create a new war/terror scare, under which Bush can once again violate the Constitution completely.
Bush's former chief Andrew Card said in a speech after he left the White House, that Bush's no.1 priority is protecting the constitution" - they are liars of a big dimension...
I don't know if this has
I don't know if this has been posted before.. it's from July 7th
'Toying With Terror Alerts?'
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1211369,00.html
Oh what a tangled web we
Oh what a tangled web we weave...
-- Chris Rose
Sure we do, because it is just connecting the dots. Nothing's made up. It is all very well documented in the MSM.
It is a huge web, but it is the sad reality - a result of the connections between the GOP, Saudis, a family called Bush and the Mafia.
Check this out truth
Check this out truth seekers. 9/11 activist Christopher Bollyn beaten by the cops. And people wonder why I hate these people so much. http://www.rbnlive.com/Bollyn.html
>http://www.rbnlive.com/Bolly
>http://www.rbnlive.com/Bollyn.html
>maddog | Homepage | 08.17.06 - 2:23 >pm | #
It has some new info about the Odigo 9/11 chat-warning mystery.
Apparently, 9/11 "conspiracy
Apparently, 9/11 "conspiracy theories" are the subject of CBC Radio's The Current tomorrow:
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2006/200608/20060817.html
"Tomorrow on The Current, we'll be talking about what they are saying about who's really behind the events of September 11th, and how that day has shaped our modern suspicions. And you know who they are. Don't you?
Well, we'd love to hear from you today ...especially from those of you who have friends--rational intelligent friends---who nonetheless believe, say, that Princess Diana was deliberately killed. Or that the moonwalk was a bogus political stunt designed to scare the commies. Or that aliens are watching us as we speak.
Call us or write us today and tell us about this person. And don't worry, our phones aren't tapped, and no one's reading our emails...as least as far as we know. Our email address is thecurrent@cbc.ca. Or with the operator's assistance, you can call us collect at 416 205 7878."
I believe these shows are archived.
I just read the Ruppert
I just read the Ruppert article and I agree with him on one thing. As I said yesterday on this blog, "The criminality of the US government is unparallel in all of human history." I may not agree with Ruppert on all issues but I do agree with him on that. If you read the article you will understand that is precisely what he is saying.
The Michael C. Ruppert
The Michael C. Ruppert article is great and a must read! Thanks Al C.
That makes at least three of
That makes at least three of us, maddog.
Perhaps they were not
Perhaps they were not “martyrs”, and they really just liked getting drunk in topless bars?
Yep, maybe they were just government employees participating in mock terror drills in the morning, who decided to have a few drinks that night...
That MCR article depressed
That MCR article depressed the crap outa me.
...especially from those of
...especially from those of you who have friends--rational intelligent friends---who nonetheless believe, say, that Princess Diana was deliberately killed. Or that the moonwalk was a bogus political stunt designed to scare the commies. Or that aliens are watching us as we speak.
So...why even bother with a show then? Man I get so pissed off when I hear crap like this. "If you believe 9/11 was a consiracy, then you also believe Elvis is still alive and that aliens are watching us".
I am mad as hell!
I just read the entire
I just read the entire Ruppert piece as well. It is depressing, for sure, and difficult to read, especially since I've questioned the wisdom of staying in the U.S. as well.
I've been wondering what he's been up to since the burglary of FTW offices, because there's been a noticeable absence of his words at FTW for weeks now.
I need to digest all of this before commenting further....
How come people dont say
How come people dont say "if you believe there's WMD's in Iraq and Bush won Florida fair and square, you believe in Elvis is alive and the holocaust was faked?"
On the other token, why are anti war liberals not made fun of for their "conspiracy theories" about the neocons, but we are taken to task as if we are terrorists?
And that sucks about Bollyn getting arrested, but why is he saying Ellen Mariani is associated with Eric "I hate the Jews and the holocaust is ahoax" Husfhmind?
And the Odigo story...my feeling is that Mossad and this Kobi Alenander gu y picked up chatter that 9/11 was going down, made some profit on it, warned his pals. I don't think "the JEws were in on it". They just shadowed the operation with Mossad like flies on crap...crap being the hijackers. Tho, investigating Zim industries in the WTC may yield interesting notes.
pocky, you own the media.
pocky, you own the media. you republicans OWN the media, yet you complain EVERY DAY about "liberal this liberal that, its the lefts fault!". wake up man, YOU OWN THE MEDIA, NOT US.
On the other token, why are
On the other token, why are anti war liberals not made fun of for their "conspiracy theories" about the neocons, but we are taken to task as if we are terrorists?
pockybot | 08.17.06 - 7:02 pm | #
oh, i dont know pocky, maybe because they are NOT conspiracy theories but well documented fact? you dont believe vote fraud is a fact? the left does, the right doesnt. who do you agree with on that one?
"Therefore we can conclude
"Therefore we can conclude that Atta and most likely Al Shehhi had doubles."
I assume this statement is supposed to be cute or tongue in cheek? To me, it's just a bad way to present what should be serious information. Skeptical people come here to see if we are a bunch of idiots. They see an idiotic statement, and then they decide we are a bunch of idiots. So, drop the cute, please.
Dear jfal, the conclusion
Dear jfal,
the conclusion you quote is based on official documents and many press articles. Either you believe in bilocation of Atta and Al Shehhi or you you to agree that they had doubles. The third possibility is that the official chronologies of the alleged hijackers is simply lying. What's your choice?
Btw if you check the link at the bottom of the original post you'll see that this is by far not the only evidence of double identities.
So, if you talk about serious people then please tell me how do you explain the presence of Atta and Al Shehhi at two different places at the same time????
John Doe II- Are you
John Doe II-
Are you kidding? Maybe I'm missing something. But I choose the third possibility, of course. (The official account is a lie.) If you're not kidding, please explain.
If you are kidding, then you are just clouding the issue. This isn't helpful, especially for someone coming here for the first time. We need to keep focused on the goal of convincing people. Being cute and unclear doesn't help.