New Details About Dick Cheney's Response on 9/11
An article in the Washington Post reveals new details of Vice President Dick Cheney's immediate response to the 9/11 attacks:
In a bunker beneath the East Wing of the White House, Cheney locked his eyes on CNN, chin resting on interlaced fingers. He was about to watch, in real time, as thousands were killed on Sept. 11, 2001.
Previous accounts have described Cheney's adrenaline-charged evacuation to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center that morning, a Secret Service agent on each arm. They have not detailed his reaction, 22 minutes later, when the south tower of the World Trade Center collapsed.
"There was a groan in the room that I won't forget, ever," one witness said. "It seemed like one groan from everyone" -- among them Rice; her deputy, Stephen J. Hadley; economic adviser Lawrence B. Lindsey; counselor Matalin; Cheney's chief of staff, Libby; and the vice president's wife.
Cheney made no sound. "I remember turning my head and looking at the vice president, and his expression never changed," said the witness, reading from a notebook of observations written that day. Cheney closed his eyes against the image for one long, slow blink.
Three people who were present, not all of them admirers, said they saw no sign then or later of the profound psychological transformation that has often been imputed to Cheney. What they saw, they said, was extraordinary self-containment and a rapid shift of focus to the machinery of power. While others assessed casualties and the work of "first responders," Cheney began planning for a conflict that would call upon lawyers as often as soldiers and spies.
Furthermore, already that morning, Cheney was consulting his lawyer to arrange extraordinary presidential powers in response to the attacks:
In expanding presidential power, Cheney's foremost agent was David S. Addington, his formidable general counsel and legal adviser of many years. On the morning of Sept. 11, Addington was evacuated from the Eisenhower Executive Office Building next to the White House and began to make his way toward his Virginia home on foot. As he neared the Arlington Memorial Bridge, someone in the White House reached him with a message: Turn around. The vice president needs you.
Down in the bunker, according to a colleague with firsthand knowledge, Cheney and Addington began contemplating the founding question of the legal revolution to come: What extraordinary powers will the president need for his response?
Before the day ended, Cheney's lawyer joined forces with Timothy E. Flanigan, the deputy White House counsel, linked by secure video from the Situation Room. Flanigan patched in John C. Yoo at the Justice Department's fourth-floor command center. White House counsel Alberto R. Gonzales joined later.
Thus formed the core legal team that Cheney oversaw, directly and indirectly, after the terrorist attacks.
Does anyone else find Cheney's response to the attacks, described here, rather sinister and suspicious?
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Dick Cheney > Benedict
Dick Cheney > Benedict Arnold
>?
If by '>' you mean 'a worse traitor than', then I agree. Arnold at least was wounded in the independence cause before he turned traitor.
I'm quite certain that the inner circle of perpetrators
of the 9-11 and 7-7 events, in their own minds, consider them selves the ultimate patriots. They understand the world much better than you or I or any of the unwashed masses. They know that oil is running out, they know that the US/UK and by implication Israel cannot survive at their current standard of living unless those countries control that oil and natural gas. They know that the only way they could hope to get away with it was to stage an dramatic attack and claim self defense as they established their "footprint" in the key resource areas.
The end always justifies the means. A few thousand (or tens of thousands of) American lives, and a few hundred thousand (or eventually even million) arab lives are quite worth the end result to them.
They did it for their country.
"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak." -- John Adams. Combine this with current geopolitical reality and the neocon prophet Leo Strauss' idea of the nobel lie (i.e., the masses must be decieved for their own good) and you get 9-11, 7/7, and more to come.
Fasten your seatbelts and rest easy at night knowing that your betters have your best interests at heart.
Order Out of Chaos - They did it for themselves
"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gate is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.”
~Cicero, 45 BC
"If everyone enjoyed the unrestricted use of his faculties and the free disposition of the fruits of his labor, social progress would be ceaseless, uninterrupted and unfailing. But there is another tendency that is common among people. When they can, they wish to live and prosper at the expense of others. The annals of history bear witness to the truth of it: The incessant wars, mass migrations, religious persecutions, universal slavery, dishonesty in commerce, and monopolies. This fatal desire has its origin in the very nature of man...in that primitive, universal and insuppressible instinct that impels him to satisfy his desires with the least possible pain.”
~Frederick Bastiat, 1848
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Glad to see more info coming out.
I'm always glad to see new information coming out, but this will only further cement "inside job" in our minds, but it won't do much for the cause because there's not much to it. It's just a reaction. We need better stuff and we need to be more aggressive.
Posted by chucksheen-- "A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gate is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men..."
chucksheen, I copied part of your quote because I think it's telling. When "they" can work in the shadows under the guise of being patriots, they have a supreme advantage over those who carry 9/11 banners. I wish there was a way for us to start our own "Truth Intel Organization" where qualified Truthers can pose as one of "them" and infiltrate the highest levels of corruption in order to gather evidence and expose them. The problem is that it would take years and rigid organization to pull it off, if it could be done at all. Maybe we could recruit the next celebrity convert and have them pose as a Bonaducci-like character who speaks out against Truthers in order to gain acceptance among the FOX-neocon brigade.... I just realized how desperate and fantastical this sounds. Just spitballing I guess...
Yeah, they'll try to justify their criminality as
....actions being taken for the greater good (of Western society, that is, "brown people" are again getting slaughtered and ripped off as usual).....(I often refer to these, but remember Bush looking straight into the camera during his SOTU and saying "America is addicted to Oil"? or Cheney's "The American way of life is not negotiable"? Those are their tacit justifications for, and admissions of, their murderous greed).......but really it's about self-enrichment for themselves and their cronies: 9/11 justifies the trillions in deficit (at interest) spending that enriches the M-I-C, Big Oil, and the Financial Oligarchy and preserves those entrenched corrupt power structures as long as possible.
Expose 9/11 for the Inside Job that is is and all that has followed (criminal wars abroad and a police state at home) start to get reversed.
dead on
couldnt have said it better myself.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA
exactly my thoughts on the matter
amazing how clearly you put it all in context. thanks
Great find!
It's pretty obvious what the witnesses and writers are saying here, though they avoid saying it explicitly.
Let's see: Cheney is unmoved by the collapse of the WTC, and his first thought is to investigate extra-constitutional powers that will be part of "the response."
"Cheney made no sound. "I
"Cheney made no sound. "I remember turning my head and looking at the vice president, and his expression never changed,""
... just like my expression, when reading this story...
Curious, that he didn't even manage to fake a surprise...
He was busy planning the attacks
I guess the reason for Cheney's lack of response to the first tower's collapse was that he was too busy thinking something like: "I hope the other tower's demolition also works as planned when we set the explosives off." This guy is a traitor, and he is going to end up in prison for what he did on 9/11.
Cheney's Response
...resting his chin....interlaced fingers....made no sound....one, slow blink...
He's just witnessed the deaths of what must be thousands....and he has no response...
Yet, immediately after the collapse he flies into action....first thing....talk to a lawyer.
Is the reaction suspicious - yes.
But my contention would be that he had no reaction, becuase he wasn't surprised...he expected it. Chances would be very high that indeed he'd probably seen computer generated animations of it. He knew eactly what was going to happen and what it would look like.
It's amazing how they have him...flying into action after the event, but nothing during th event. Why was he even watching it...did he not have anything better that he could be doing.
We didn't know the extent of the attack - and they are all watching TV. That's how you know it's a lie.
The Secret Service rushed "evacuated" him - as they should have. It's called following protocol.
Yet, the Service left Bush sitting there at that school, like he was a road apple - Why?
Why was Cheney evacuated and Bush wasn't?
Who would have given the order to leave him there? When and why was it given? Bush didn't give it. We know that - he said nothing when he was informed.
So...in the middle of the biggest attack in the nation's history...the EXTENT OF WHICH WE DID NOT KNOW...OR FROM WHOM.....the Secret Service let the President sitting, unprotected, out in the open, in a school room in Florida...and on NATIONAL TV......FOR THE ATTACKERS TO SEE....AND KNOW WHERE TO GO....IF THEY WISH.....
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
You need no more proof then the actions and reactions of the VP, President and Secret Service.
Treasonous Scum!!!
The world is waking up to it - hopefully before the stage the next (NUCLEAR ) 911.
Spread the Truth far and wide.
Dick Cheney is Satan
and as such, needs to be driven underground - preferably under the heavy foot of justice doled out by the American people! History is not expedient enough a judge. Makes you wonder how far these people will go before they lose control of their military. Without his army, Cheney's just some pasty mean fascist guy with a cleft pallet.
"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a New World Order — can emerge..." - George H.W. Bush, 9/11/91
hmmmm
Want to figure out 9/11? Ponder the 9/11 "Mineta Stone"
"There was a groan in the
"There was a groan in the room that I won't forget, ever," one witness said. "It seemed like one groan from everyone" -- among them Rice; her deputy, Stephen J. Hadley; economic adviser Lawrence B. Lindsey; counselor Matalin; Cheney's chief of staff, Libby; and the vice president's wife."
The VP's WIFE ? Was she representing the AEI or PNAC ?
and is all this before or after Norman Mineta
saw and heard Cheney do nothing to stop the Pentagon-attack in a room that Cheney claims he wasn't even in at the time ?
In fact, where WAS tricky Dicky that day ? and just WHEN did
those SS-agents "evacuate" him ?
I smell planted Washington Post BS disinfo ...
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This would have been after the Mineta episode
according to the timeline.
Mineta episode was around 9:20. First tower collapse around 9:59.
Which makes me wonder...
I believe Peter Dale Scott has speculated that between 9:20 and 9:58 (when the 911CR says Cheney arrived in the bunker) Cheney may have left the room to make a call on a secure back channel. Scott sees the "9:58" lie among other lies as an attempt to cover for Cheney. But we're not sure what they are covering with these lies. If Cheney is definitely in the bunker when the south tower explodes (9:59), and definitely there when Mineta and Clarke testify (around 9:20), then it's possible in the unaccounted 30 minutes or so that Cheney left the room to communicate with the perps. I'm sure Scott's book will have an astute reading of this.
Maybe Cheney stepped out, ...
...knowing what was coming, to make a call on a secure throne phone and take a Big Time dump.
What is the time on Mineta's accounting of the incoming plane?
9:20 - Mineta and Clarke testify that he (Cheney) was there in the bunker.
9:32 - Pentagon helipad Clock http://americanhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/record.asp?ID=19
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9:38 - Official Pentagon strike time
Why would Cheney leave the room, knowing of an incoming aircraft, until after the Pentagon impact?
Then back in his seat within 21 minutes (official) or 27 minutes (clock) in time to calmly watch the south tower collapse?
9:59 - South tower collapse
Is there something very, very special about those six or so minutes?
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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)
I think Scott's hypothesis was
that 9:58 maybe the time Cheney returned to the PEOC, but not necessarily the time he first arrived.
I don't know if or why Cheney may have left the room. Scott's point was that the commission clearly lies on this point (the 9:58 arrival of Cheney), to protect Cheney from something.
Here's some of Scott's writing on the subject:
"My big question and the focus of my forthcoming book - The Road to 9/11 - out of that huge book with 14 chapters, there are only two on 9/11 itself, and both of them are looking exclusively really, almost exclusively, at what Dick Cheney did between 9 am and 10:39 on that morning -- because there are different accounts of it, and interestingly there are different accounts from Dick Cheney himself, incompatible accounts. And I believe it is a very important issue because either he was in the bunker, what we call the PEOC under the White House, or not, when two crucial orders were made, a Stand Down order that got all the planes down on the ground, that came out of the bunker, and a Shoot Down order, to shoot down any remaining hijacked planes. (At this point there was only one – Flight 93, which of course is the plane that should not have been shot down, according to the official version, because the passengers were taking care of the problem themselves.)
And there is no doubt, everybody agrees, including the 9/11 Report, that both these orders occurred. There is no doubt that the first was at 9:42; and there is great confusion as to whether the second order was around 9:45 (Richard Clarke says it was before Air Force One took off at 9:54) or when the Report indicates: probably about 10:15, which of course is after Flight 93 had already crashed.
Now when did Dick Cheney go into the PEOC? He spoke to Tim Russert on "Meet the Press" five days afterward, on September 16, and said he got there before the plane, if that is what it was, flew into the Pentagon, which was at 9:37. And I believe what he said on September 16.
Then he was interviewed by Newsweek, and that appeared in Newsweek on December 31; and it is the basis for the story in the 9/11 Report: that he "arrived", and that’s the Report’s word, in the bunker "shortly before 10 [am], perhaps at 9:58."
You notice if that was the case, he was not present for either order, though we have many sources to say that he was there for the first, and the only coherent reading of Richard Clarke’s book is that he transmitted to Clarke the shoot down order sometime before 9:54.
What I think happened -- and this is where we will get back to JFK -- is that Cheney did indeed arrive quite early in the bunker, as Norman Mineta, who was also there, testified. (There’s a very interesting story there that I can’t get into here.) And THEN Cheney left, and this is the interesting thing, he left the bunker, went back into the tunnel leading to the bunker – and from the tunnel he made the crucial phone call to Bush and perhaps an even more crucial phone call to Rumsfeld, which Rumsfeld has referred to but which the Report ignores, which was about three things:
1) protecting Air Force One, which was irrelevant;
2) orders (disputed) about planes, which may have involved the shoot-down order;
3) Continuity of Government.
I wish I could get into this -- it is the heart of my book: instituting COG, Continuity of Government (which I call Change in Government, because it is often called a plan for the suspension of the U.S. Constitution – and that is a pretty accurate summary of it)."
Actually, it looks like Mineta entered at 9:27
He said that in an interview with MSNBC, and said it was after 9:25 in the Seattle 9/11 Visibility interview on YouTube. Then he heard the "50 miles out," which Adam Letalik says in his article matches the timing of the Pentagon hit, and then 5-6 minutes later, as Mineta told Roemer, he heard the "does the order still stand" comment. 9:27 is also more consistent with Richard Clark's book than 9:20, which seemed rushed.
This confusion about time may arise from a misstatement in Letalik's paper, as I discussed in a comment here:
http://911blogger.com/node/9629#comment-153245
Somebody in the bunker did
"Does anyone else find Cheney's response to the attacks, described here, rather sinister and suspicious?"
Check out the picture of the Cheney in the bunker, 5th picture down in the Washington Post article. The guy to the left, in the blue shirt and red ties with his arms crossed, is looking at Cheney with a very skeptical and disturbed look on his face. Who knows what he is thinking, but it looks like "Oh my God, we're screwed."
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Three explanations
Cheney's reaction to the fall of the South tower is very telling because it is not the reaction of a normal human being. I believe there are only three possible explanations for Cheney's reaction:
1. He knew in advance that it was going to collapse.
2. He is a soulless sociopath.
3. Both.
Or he is a ...
... nitrogen-based creature from Xyclon-V.
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"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~~ Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Director Building and Fire Research Laboratory (NIST)
or is he a....
shape-shifting Reptilian?
I really don't see evidence of Dick Cheney's involvement with 9/11...
NOT!!!!!!
"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a New World Order — can emerge..." - George H.W. Bush, 9/11/91