Mark Cuban Confronts Bill O'Reilly on O'Reilly's Radio Show - Audio Download
Mark Cuban Exposes O'Reilly Hypocrisy On Radio Broadcast - prisonplanet.com
Billionaire Mark Cuban, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks who is set to finance a cinema release of Loose Change narrated by Charlie Sheen, exposed Bill O'Reilly's rampant hypocrisy concerning his coverage of the 9/11 truth movement on the Fox News host's radio show yesterday.
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O'Reilly admits right off the bat that he has not even seen Loose Change, following in the trend of his fellow debunkers who have already arrived at a judgment without even checking the evidence. Bill's mind is made up! Don't bother him with the facts!This painfully underscores exactly what this whole charade represents, not an open debate on the evidence, but a cynical attempt to smear Charlie Sheen, Rosie O'Donnell and Mark Cuban.
O'Reilly wastes no time in doing so by associating Loose Change with "Nazi propaganda."
Be sure to check out the full article and the 9 minute mp3 as well.
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Scared
he was briefly thrown off by learning Cuban was Jewish.....but went on with the "cooked in ovens" tactic anyway... too muckin fuch
hey billy o...
2007 is the year the karma police defeat the thought police. enjoy the long, hard fall, you loser.
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IMPORTANT NEWS
Iran captures british sailors said to have intruded their territory. Can anyone say Lebanon?
Brits in Iran
There's something strange about that whole scenario. It almost seems the Brits are antagonizing, maybe even daring the Iranis to capture them. Obviously this will be exploited by the occupiers as an international incident that could justify further action.
We can only pray the incident will be defused diplomatically.
Vive le Truth
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Awareness+ activism+ rebellion= New Paradigm.
False Flag attacks in Basra,Iraq
For those of you unaware the Iraqi's of Basra busted some Brits that had dressed up in civilian garb and sprayed people in a market with guns. The civilians followed them and then imprisoned them in a jail in Basra. The British military tried to get them released by talking. The Iraqi's wouldn't free them so the Brits launched a "rescue" mission and broke into the jail to free them. If you go to www.antiwar.com and use their search engine you should be able to find this incident. It occurred last year.
Our own people, perhaps intelligence agents, are already trying to provoke infighting which is morally reprehensible and our damn government's need to be held accountable. We have enough evidence to start massive protests. We MUST stop WWIII
"... In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." (Galileo Galilei, 1564 - 1642)
OIL IS OBSOLETE - WAKE UP - YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO, AGAIN!
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/
Happening a lot...
More info and pictures on British SAS caught dressed up as Arabs...
Link : http://www.blogigo.co.uk/socialdemocracynow/INCIDENT-BASRA-THE-ROSETTA-STONE-IRAQI-INSURGENT-TERRORISM/24/
Also been reading a few stories about drivers being stopped, taken in for interrogation, then told to go a pick up their license from "x" poilice station, and discovered bombs planted in their car...
Very worrying if you drive in Iraq...
Best wishes
Also American Mercenaries are attacking American troops
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.main/index.html?eref=rss_...
This is the story about the American uniformed SUV driving insider knowledge attack on a US military post. It is blamed on Iran, but . . . the stronger evidecne suggests it is what it looks like: American merceneries attacking American troops.
CNN leaves out the part about one of the attackers being blond.
Let's include here that Sy Hersh has reported our tax money goes to support "Al CIAda" in Iraq directly.
I can't comprehend the motive (Halliburton's profits?) but the evidence is that this festering conflict is perpetuated intentionally by the American administration. You can only say America is losing if you measure it with peace-goal yardsticks. Somone in DC is quite happy with the turmoil and destruction.
Justice deferred is justice denied-MLK
Serves as pretext
for the 12 permanent military bases, which are there to control the oil as outlined in "Rebuilding America's Defenses". Plus of course the profits from the war machine.
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He may not believe
YET.....
But you can believe that he's going to support this cause.
Especially if he's going to receive criticism and publicity
I can not wait to see him on the sidelines of the next Mavs / Lakers game wearing an "Investigate 911" shirt...sitting next to Charlie Sheen.
Mark..... Please buy the Cubs!
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Dear Mark
You do your country PROUD ! This was an awesome clip on prison planet.The nine minute audio showed the desparation in O'Rilley.Mark did an outstanding job!
It was funny Mark pointed out that everyone should decied for themselfs.O'Rilley's comment was to prohibit this.Can you say CONTROLLED INFORMATION?
Please send a thank you to Mark
mark.cuban@dallasmavs.com
Wow, Mark Cuban stepping up to the plate big time! Bravo to
Cuban, Sheen, Rosie, etc.!!!
Furthermore, I strongly believe O'Reilly's statements about Cuban & Sheen to be serious threats made against their safety! O'Reilly needs to be held fully accountable for his dangerous, menacing, & intimidating remarks!
Having a billionaire on our
Having a billionaire on our team has to be good
Oh well...read on!
You might want to take that back later...
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Yea Somebigguy
Read my recent blog post brother.
What a fool
O'Lieley does not need to dispute facts
He has beliefs.
He has never even watched this film..... and the funny thing is.... he never will.... he will do story after story about this and he will never watch it.
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Am writing up list of journalists accomplice to the 911 murder
John MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE
Bonsoir ,
It is no longer possible to have FOX news , the BBC , the Gardian newspaper , Libération etc insult the 911 truth movement and abetting George Bush and company to escape from the 911 mass murder charge.
We must now start listing these accomplices so that they can be accountable one day for their acts when these necons murderers are put before the international court for their crimes against humanité. We need to note down the necessary references with the back up videos of the TV programs. I am starting with the one below.
Lost the references to some good video on YOUTUBE showing how these journalistes ( Henny show ? ) are using their talents to further the state evil.
Start filling up your own fills so that we can have many copies of the same material.
Thanks
John
BILL O'REILLYJOURNALISTE FOX NEWS
GERARD POSNERJOURNALISTE
DIETL BOFORMER NYPD DETECTIVE
Fox and O'Reilly Threaten Sheen Over Narrating Loose Change 3rd Edition Bill O'lilly will be prosecuted for the cover-up of mass murder. 23/03/2007 submitted
http://www.911blogger.com/node/7156
I'm not knocking what you
I'm not knocking what you are saying but there is no International court.
Everybody is bought and paid for. That should be obvious by now.
There is no congress, there are no judges, there is no United Nations. They are paid for by higher ups and unless they are paid to act - they never would.
Why doesn't anyone ever mention Rothschild?
He controls most of the planet's financial transactions and events.
Okay so what do you suggest Sarah ?
John A MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE
"So everybody is bought and paid for" Okay I partly agree with you and I do prefer to do my own checking. But by getting together we are more intelligent than alone and a judgement can only de done collectively by recognised people.
So what do you suggest other ?
Yours John
WOW !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrcFA9j6bkU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epriso...
Did Alan Colmes say that? I must admit when he asked the question ."Do you think that everything the govement says is true?" I about shit! Do you think he looked at a few 9/11 videos?
That is another point id like to make. Did you notice how Hannity & O'Rilley put the questions out of context.
Whoah^2! That was surreal!
Did I just perceive...the voice of reason? On FAUX? I think hell has just frozen over...
No voice of reason there...
more like the voice of a Shill who sees the tide turning.
Or...
of someone who now dares to speak up, knowing the tide is turning. I try to see the good in people...
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whats the quote
"...and after a time it costs nothing to be a patriot" - or something to that effect?
pfft, colmes is hannity's lap wimp, and looks like a fake ass Jimmy Smits. HAHA
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9/11 was an INSIDE JOB
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In times of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.
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here you go CR..
it's Mark Twain and he was great. The quote you were looking for is my tag. I think in a year way more people will have opened thier eyes, but we gotta push.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." ---- Mark Twain
After Hannity's parting shot...
...that this will be used by America's enemies, Colmes' sarcastic last words were:
"You should never speak out in this country."
I learned a lot from this one about how Fox uses their "guest" commentators to manipulate the material.
Incessant ad hominem attacks = no game. The clock is ticking down and they are in panic mode and they have no bench. Sweatin' bullets and shittin' bricks.
Coach Cuban, if you are betting on the other team, you're gonna get creamed.
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The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001
If the ship is sinking
Alan Colmes just threw out his life preserver.
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excellent video
Mark Cuban did a great job against the shyster OReilly, the Murdoch puppet.
Wisdom, Excellent youtube url.
Great to hear someone say on Fox news, "Do you think everything the govt says is true", along with lets debate the facts and cut out the name calling and we all have first amemdment rights.
Doesn't sound like something Murdoch would want Alan and the others to say mostly in reference to something like 911 truth.
ALERT! ALERT!
Clone malfunction detected. Subject #AC04171964 underwent unexpected mutation and has developed balls contrary to genetic programming. Send in the eugenitors and stop processing of further subjects of this line until further notice.
The empire depends on you.
WOW, Excellent PROGRESS!
I do believe Alan Colmes has grown a rational thought process. Great YouTube video, thanks..
Memorable quote
Hannity: "This will be used by America's enemies as propaganda"
Well, you know who he meant by that. Case in point.
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Yes
I'm sure that they will see our weakness in questioning our own government.
Requiring conclusions which should have taken more than 24 hours.
Realizing that no people in their right minds would ever taunt the military power of a country like ours.
If Al-CIAda was a threat to us we would have taken them out on several occasions.
I'm sure that they are using our doubt in our own gevernment against us.
I wonder how they will accept our apology.
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am I the only one?
who found this interview to be disappointing and bizarre? Cuban keeps saying that he wants it out there because crazy stuff shouldn't be in the shadows or whatever. He also promoted a film making Iraq "look like Shangri La" right before the election?
Sorry, I don't think this guy is any kind of hero. Billionaires have agendas, and this one's seems to be to get Loose Change out there in order to have it be the film that the masses associate with 9/11. That could be a nightmare, especially if the film turns out to have specious or inaccurate information in it (as both of the previous versions have.)
All the attention OReilly pays to this particular angle of the 9/11 story should make us all very wary. Why indeed WOULD OReilly be giving this thing free publicity. I think maybe the truth movement needs to declare its independence from loose change.
Sorry folks, but this is all just getting too weird, too scripted, too incestuous. I'm not sure what's going on here but color me skeptical as all hell.
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you're not the only one
I'm VERY skeptical of Cuban. I think your concerns are valid. Speaking of billionaires, I'm very distrusting of George Soros even though he appears to align himself with the left and his whole "Open Society" thing. Sounds good on the surface until you dig a bit deeper and see what he's really been up to. Mark Rabinowitz of OilEmpire.us has some choice words regarding Soros here: http://www.oilempire.us/soros.html
Back to Cuban, the big red flag that came up for me was in the initial report about him apparently planning on showing the other side of 9/11 truth with an opposing film to Loose Change. I'm sorry, but you just can't play both sides of this, as if 9/11 truth is just an opinion like other emotionally charged issues such as gun control, abortion, or gay rights. 9/11 truth has various theories, sure, but to show both sides (presumably the government story vs. the unanswered questions indicating an inside job)? Sickening.
I pray every day
that they do come out with a film.
So we have a better standing from which to propel this movement.
Nobody read the Popular Mechanics book..... they only know that they wrote the book.... and they can go back to sleep.
They do not need to look at both sides of the evidence / excuse.
Popular Mechanics did not agree with any of our findings..... not one.
They will; have their shills they can roll out..... but they are wrong.... and we can prove it.
So.... Mark Cuban.... do as you will.
Bill O'Lieley..... keep talking cause you are losing credibility with every word.
Nothing they do or say worries me one bit.
Where's that report on Building 7?
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I have faith in DRG
and I say bring it. If there is an agenda here..... I don't see it yet.
"Loose Change" was simply my gateway to truth... it was not the Bible
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Yes, but even DRG plays the Pentagon card
And you just know that if LCFC contains more material about no-plane-at-the-Pentagon, O'Reilly and fellow goons will be tripping over each other to be the first one to ask, "Then where are the passengers of Flight 77? And how do you explain all of the photos of plane parts? And, oh, look, the Pentagon just released a video of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon! Just in time for the sixth anniversary! Looks like all you people are full of shit."
So, if the invisible pink unicorn isn't in this room
where is it?
Why do you focus so much on what "O'Reilly and fellow goons" will have to say? I just don't get it.
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seriously.
seriously. and im glad DRG plays "the Pentagon card" because it has caused god knows how many people to question the whole official story of 9/11. Pentagon Flash anyone? remember it? i do, and millions of other people saw it when the movement was in its infancy. it had a HUGE impact at the time. that CANNOT be denied, even if you happen to think Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
Word.
The movement was indeed in its infancy when Pentagon Strike flash video was new. It even predated In Plane Site I believe. I agree, the Pentagon issue has opened many peoples' minds to the entire issue.
Because this is about winning
not about continuing to flaunt weak theories for the sake of argument. We need a bulletproof platform, not a sketchy, might-be right platform. O'Reilly and goons shouldn't be handed ammunition to use against us, and the Pentagon issue is like handing them a bazooka.
you missed my point. i guess
you missed my point. i guess i dont care as much about what people like O'Reilly say as you do. the Pentagon and all the anomalies that surround it have caused scores of people to question 9/11 or even join the movement themselves. it was in fact one of the first issues to cause there to even BE a 9/11 truth movement. so some rightwing tools that watch Hannity and the goons get a one sided view of 9/11 heavy on the Pentagon(though NEVER in a fair way and you know it.), that means we should never bring it up again? despite the fact that it has been a great "recruiter" for lack of a better term? you act like if we just all dropped the Pentagon that O'Reilly and the rest would focus on what you want them to in the way that you want them to. pipe dream. though they would LOVE for us to drop one of the best recruiting tools we have. im not gonna fall for it. ALL evidence because it makes our case that much stronger.
I don't agree with the idea
that bringing people into 9/11 Truth by any means, even by flawed theories, is a good thing. We should bring them in with the best proof, not the highly dubious proof.
many of the people who are
many of the people who are now in this movement are here because of those "flawed theories". the movement would not be as big and as powerful as it is now without that "highly dubious" proof. this cant be debated, its a fact. but now that we have made it this far lets forget all about it? no thanks. show of hands(even though this thread is kind of dead now), how many of you first started to question 9/11 because of CD or the Pentagon? the Pentagon was the birth of this movement.
simuvac -
If the mystery at the Pentagon is what first gets them to question the government myth of 9/11, then that's fine.
Once they start asking questions they will undoubtedly find their way to the stronger evidence. When I am out on the street and people ask me about the Pentagon I just say I don't know what happened there and that's one of the thousands of reasons why we need new investigations. Then I ask them what they think happened and what else they know about 9/11 or what other questions they have about 9/11. This inevitably leads to the single strongest physical evidence, WTC 7.
My point is let everyone find their own way into the rabbit hole, then make sure they get a grand tour of the whole warren and, by all means, point out the shakier tunnels.
I hope that you and yours are well.
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
in other words, without
in other words, without things like the Pentagon and CD, things people can see with their own eyes and dont have to trust media sources for(we all know how good the media is at changing history and burying stories, but they cant change video/physics), the movement might not have even been here and O'Reilly and the rest could have gone on with completely ignoring us. the bullet proof evidence you speak of is damning, but again, it can and has been successfully hidden so far for the most part. that isnt because CD and the Pentagon have made it so, its because the media have made it so. because they CAN not because some people in the movement use the Pentagon and CD to our advantage.
RT - I see 3 possibilities here:
1) Mark Cuban thrives on controversy and has latched on to this to feed his appetite.
2) Mr. Cuban knows the truth, sees how the movement is reaching critical mass, wants to get on the right side of history and is tactically shrewd.
3) Mr. Cuban knows the truth and is acting as an agent to intercept a powerful element (the Loose Change franchise) in the movement in order to divert and/or disarm it.
Only time will tell.
I hope that the LC crew have very good attorneys (whom they trust) checking any and all agreements thoroughly. I would also recommend that they bring in some pro-truth attorneys (there are a few around here) to render an opinion before signing anything (hope it's not too late for that).
9/11 Truth does not live or die with the fate of one movie (even Loose Change Final Cut).
I hope that you and yours are well.
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
Cuban is too much of a narcissist
to care if he is right or wrong.
A Narcaissist
and a passionate one..... Point?
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The point is
I don't see him as a guy who is doing this for the principle. His admission to O'Reilly that he plans to release a counter-LC film as well should be proof of that. Cuban is an attention-seeker. I don't think it matters to him how this plays out, as long as LCFC is a controversial and successful film. Maybe that's good enough for us. I don't know. Depends how Cuban's public attitude toward LCFC changes. He had the chance to say to O'Reilly, "You're wrong, Bill. LCFC will prove 9/11 was an inside job," but he didn't. What kind of producer is that?
Regardless of Mr. Cubans
Regardless of Mr. Cubans motivations a wide theatrical release will awaken fresh hordes of new truthers while a suppression of the film will create ever more controversy .Either way it helps.As our numbers increase more people (Alan Colmes?) will realize exactly what they have been a party to and start to rebel against their masters.There are people such as the miami reporter who originally covered Prof. Jones, who had to mask his report as a hit piece to get it past his editors.Perhaps this technique is being employed more than we think.This movement is a juggernaut smashing down the crumbling wall of lies and deceit encasing these treacherous swine. And what champion does the darkness field before us...
Bo Dietl --Frito Man
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I found it disappointing and
I found it disappointing and disheartening. Cuban essentially give O'Reilly his major point, which is that Loose Change is a deplorable film, but defends his right to distribute deplorable films.
Can you believe it, I'm agreeing with you.
stranger things
have happened, but yeah, I'm glad we can agree on some things.
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See the WISDOM
Smooth move on the part of Mark.Anyone who has looked at what we have see's the truth. He avoids attack in the manner in which he presents it.
NO YOU ARE NOT
I don't know if I trust this guy and he may be trying to steal the copy license so he can limit the exposure to the film.
REMEMBER MARK CUBAN JUST HAD HALIFAXION SUED FOR UPLOADING 9/11 VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE.
Halifaxion is now gone...all his vids gone...
I don't know if I trust this guy and after this audio clip I trust him even less.
Point
You do have a point.... If Mark Cuban does get the distribution rights he can keep this off of the internet...... no one will ever see "Loose Change" for free.
And he will own the rights to all the previous films as well.
This deal could get Loose Change yanked from the internet.
I could be wrong?
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I just don't know if I trust this guy
Especially after his attitude towards Oreilly.
MARK CUBAN JUST BUSTED HALIFAXION FOR PUTTING A SMALL CLIP OF A MAGNOLIA PICTURE ON YOUTUBE.
Halifaxion was a youtuber who we all know had almost 200 9/11 related vids. They have all been deleted and his account closed. They also closed his account on Ifilms.
I DON'T TRUST THIS GUY MARK CUBAN UNTIL HE PROVES HE IS FOR TRUTH.
He could easily totally limit exposure to "Loose Change Final Cut" and sue anyone who uploads even small 2 minute clips to youtube.
It would be an excuse to delete the accounts of hundreds of people who have small segments of loose change on ther accout.
He could use this as a mass culling of 9/11 truthers from youtube!!!
BEWARE THIS GUY
I JUST HAVE THIS FEELING!!!
Halifaxion's sites.....
are sorely missed....he did tremendous work in getting this information out via the Internet community.....
If the Halifaxion case is not reason for severe concern
then what is? Stinks to high heaven.
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who cares if he sues us?
who cares if he sues us? Lets all do it...he can sue me for all I'm worth, I could care less.
He can't sue us all.
No matter what company distributed Loose Change, there's some billionaire at the top making the decisions. So Cuban is going to have to spend his next 5-10 years in court if he tries to block LC from the internet.
It's only one truther movie anyways, albeit it being the most popular one.
It's not the lawsuits...it's the culling of massive information
After listening to his audio again and again I think this guy might be a snake in the grass.
Something is fishy
There are many many clips of magnolia pictures on youtube and google...
WHY DID THEY PICK ON HALIFAXION FOR HIS SHORT CLIP?
Why single him out?...So they could cull 200 9/11 videos that he collected over the years!
Now...If mark waits until all the 9/11 truthers upload pieces of the film, he could have youtube/google/gootube delete possibly thousands of accounts and hundreds of thousands of 9/11 videos.
He could offer to distribute the film, and actually never ever distribute a single copy!!!!
DID YOU NOTICE THAT HE SAID IN THE INTERVIEW THAT THERE WOULD (POSSIBLY) BE A DVD?
How many films have you ever seen that did not have a dvd?
They do this in the music business ALL THE TIME. They buy the rights to a band and never let it get big because it's in competition with some other band they promote. That way they keep the band down and the competitor can never get rights to it.
Just like oil companies buying the patent to water powered cars and never letting them flourish...
I FIND THIS SUSPECT...ESPECIALLY AFTER HALIFAXION!!!
All of the footage is in the
All of the footage is in the public domain -news reports,interviews,etc. so what would be the point of suppresion?
If somebody wants to give big bucks to some patriotic,clever and insightfull people, who will probably use most of it to recut an updated new film anyways, I for one would love to see a reward go to somebody who richly deserves one rather than one of those obscene shills for a change.
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Because most people don't know how to
find stuff in the public domain
But on youtube it's visible to anyone with a single click of a mouse. You don't even have to be looking for it to find it.
With news in the public domain you have to be actually looking for it to find it.
Very big difference.
Thanks for the skeptical view. We needed it.
He states more than once that theories that stay in the shadows can't be adequately refuted. He is basically saying that he is distributing the film so that the issue can be debunked. And he doesn't once lend the movement any real credibility.
I'm alarmed.
If Mark Cuban...
Funds a debunking movie by Popular Mechanics, than Bill O'Reilly should fund a new investigation.
Bill... why don't you have Kyle Hence on? The Executive Producer of 9/11: Press For Truth. A film that brings the entire 9/11 report into question, and is endorsed by the family members that fought for the creation of the 9/11 Commission?
Or... why don't you have Bob McIlvaine on? Or Michele Little? Or Donna Marsh O'Connor?
That would require being "Fair And Balanced", and unfortunately, Fox News doesn't live up to its' slogan.
"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton
FOX
is sticking by their beliefs
that those films do not exist and neither do the people who made them.
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You...
Are correct. If you were someone that didn't know anything about 9/11 Truth, and saw that the media refused to acknowledge the existence of an incredibly newsworthy documentary, why would you think that is?
"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."
Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton
Mark is alot smarter than Bill
He keeps referring to getting the story out so people can see what's crazy et . . but he never says he thinks Loose Change is nuts . . . I don't think Bill gets how Mark is manuevering him.
The media
What will become of the gatekeepers when polls show 90 percent of the world thinks it was an inside job? Will there be accountability? Aren't they an accessory?
did you hear what BO said?
"Whenever you legitimize dishonesty, you then become a partner to it. ... I am an expert at mass media. There is nobody who knows more about it than I do. You *marginalize* cranks. You put them in a position where they *cannot* do any damage."
Hmmmmm.
Want to figure out 9/11? Ponder the 9/11 "Mineta Stone"
Uh
huh...
Technology make Phaedrus look stoopid. Help!
Someone help me out here please. I'm dying to see this video and can't seem to watch the mp3 video. I just get a blank green page. And I can't seem to find software to play the vid.
Thanks, Phaedrus
Awareness+ activism+ rebellion= New Paradigm.
Audio... no Video
Can you hear it OK?
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Nash
I have to say, I've been annoyed at Mark Cuban since he traded Steve Nash but I now have some -- I repeat SOME -- resepct for Cuban.
At the same time, listening to Cuban on O'Reilly he sounds like a complete shill. He bends over backwards for the official story.
The Eleventh Day of Every Month
....
I can see why he got rid of him..... I like Cuban were living in disbelief.
Nash is kind of an anomaly ...... he probably figured that the short Canadian white guy was bound to lose it's luster.
Sometimes as a businessman you try to sell high and buy low..... sometimes you make mistakes
Cuban still seems to be ahead..... he's doing alright.
Now the Chicago Bears management..... there's some problems there..... trading their bests offensive player and their second round pick....for a worse second round pick?!?!?!?!
Superbowl to Toilet....... GO BEARS!
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Mark is smart as a fox
I hope Mark is just out for the money because he's gonna make alot of it on Loose Change.
I don't know what motivates him but if you listen to his interview with BO he never gives the bastard a target to hit.
He sounds like he agrees with the official story but take another listen. He rides the "free speech" train.
Mark the Fox maybe!
http://www.truthcult.com
Nuttin'
Just a message. "Clip info: (No information available.)
Already downloaded the following;
http://mpf.dzm.hu/download.php
mplayer_setup_0-19-0_full.exe
Nuttin I tells ya.
Awareness+ activism+ rebellion= New Paradigm.
You cant watch an mp3
only listen to it.
LOL Phaedrus
It's audio of a radio show...
Link : http://prisonplanet.com/audio/240307oreilly.mp3
Best wishes
no audio either
OK OK I understand it is audio. Like I said, "my stoopid." But I still can't play the damn thing. Nuttin I tells ya, nuttin. Not a peep, not a sound.
Thanks for tryin to help tho.
Actually after reading all the comments I think I have enough of the gist of the story.
Mark good guy- financing Loose Change.
O'Reilly on meds- irrelevant.
Mark bad guy- intentions questionable.
Steve Nash good guy- short white Canadian.
Publicity good- for Loose Change.
Loose Change- good for making people think.
Let's hope the financing has nothing to do with distribution.
My head hurts. Being stoopid is so much easier.
DOH
Awareness+ activism+ rebellion= New Paradigm.
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Thanks
Got it. Thanks.
By the way, no offense taken. I didn't notice the sarcasm and even if I did it I have a sense of humor. Life's too short.
I only hope this film gets distribution. It's hard to determine Cuban's agenda.
Awareness+ activism+ rebellion= New Paradigm.
Try this
I hate to see you abandon whats almost become a quest Phaedrus.
Have one last go..........
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QUU9BXV8
It's O'reilly that's
It's O'reilly that's done.....independent journalists have re-captured the flag. True investigative journalism has re-surfaced and the mere existence of Rupert Murdoch and his cronies is questionable, at best. (They) could give a rats ass about the victims of 911 or the halocaust for that matter. It's their own asses that they are deperately trying to save. Thank God for the internet!!
You're DONE O'reilly....you're DONE!
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The 9/11 Lie is in Critical Condition
www.northtexansfor911truth.com
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joe_plum_070324_the_9_2f11_lie_is_in_c.htm
And to those of you with something to hide; perhaps now would be a good time to "lawyer up" and "cut a deal." The game is over.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joe_plum_070324_the_9_2f11_lie_is_in_c.htm
That interview sounded a bit odd
since Cuban was labelling the Loose Change film a "crazy movie". He might be playing his cards to get some pressure off himself until it is released, time will tell.
On the clip with Colmes, I have to agree, he did seem to grow a pair when he asked Reagan if he thought that the government always told the truth. He might even have felt some satisfaction of being true to proper journalistic ideals afterwards, perhaps for the first time in a while.
Cheers,
B
"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." Albert Einstein
What I'm hearing here is
What I'm hearing here is ,Cuban saying that it's better to bring the film to the surface than have it lurk in the shadows ,so it'll be easier to refute the message.I don't see how any one can interpret that he is a truther.Maybe he sees how popular the film is on the internet and thinks if he distributes it he can make alot of money off it.As for O'reilly,he shows you what a real obnoxious prick he really is.Again the subject of holocaust denial comes up.So we should all be able to see now ,that the tactic for the gov't to refute 9/11 truth, is to tie it in with holocaust denial.I don't know about everybody else but I very frustrated by the fact that 9/11 truth has never received any mainstream press stating that there may be some truth to it.How come something that is so obvious can't be seen by any of the media. I know it's controlled but ,not even one reporter coming out? I give credit to Charlie Sheen and Rosie because they really do have alot to lose as do we all.I pray everyday that somebody who has some inside information would come out.I want to see the people who are destroying my country brought to justice. an aside to Real Truther ,your comments are very informed and always on the money.keep up the good work.I love 9/11 blogger.I don't post much but I'm on the site day and night.
thanks IB
yes, they seem to think that the association with holocaust denial is the way to go. probably because they know it divides people, which is why whatever we feel about that issue we should minimize its discussion--otherwsie we play into their hands. and that means not dignifying the smear by taking it any more seriously than it needs to be taken. The Eric Williams debacle is a case in point. If someone puts out a book that they didn't even write by themselves (he stole parts of it), and walks around with a swastika screen saver, and does it deliberately to make us look bad, why should we play along in any way? As for Cuban--if the guy were a truther, wouldn't he have used some of his billions of dollars before now to get the word out? Wouldn't he avoid OReilly like the plague and instead ask Rosie to get him on the View? There are so many better things that a billionaire truther could do than help distribute the 9/11 documentary that has already been seen by more people than any other, and isn't even the best one out there. As for the mainstream press, the reporters who work for it know the score, and if they were sympathetic to 9/11 truth they probably would already have quit in frustration. We can't depend on the MSM, in fact we have to destroy its credibility now that 9/11 has given us the chance to do that. We know that newspapers are reeling from low sales and that no serious person takes anything on Fox at face value. There is a huge difference between the reality presumed in the MSM and the reality that I experience when I walk out the door and talk to real people. As our real reality evolves over time, the MSM has to keep up in order to retain credibility, and if we keep up the pressure we will put them in the bind of having to either admit they lied about 9/11 or just go out of business. It is not excessive to say that Bill OReilly is guilty of treason and should be prosecuted for disseminating blatant lies and propaganda. Giving him a pass for any reason would make no sense. He IS a criminal. He IS guilty. He should enjoy whatever time he has left, because one way or another he will be made to pay. That's not a threat, it's prediction about someone who knows full well that they are playing with fire. None of this is going to disappear--they can raise the stakes as long as they want, fatten the pot as it were--every time they go double or nothing it's because they don't care to fold just yet. It's what irrational and insane people do once they've become fully unhinged from reality. That is where OReilly is at this point and he knows it--there just ain't no going back at this point, for him and many others. As hard as it is to believe that in 10 years he won't be around, either in prison or (XXXX), I don't see any way he will survive this adventure of his with his career, or more, intact. To quote the song "what would you do", I hope he understands the time, brother, cause it's major. We're not kids they're playing with, and though we'd be fools to let on to everything in the works, they'd better not underestimate the forces arraying themselves against them. We're going to make it happen, make no mistake.
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Bring which truth to the surface?
Change your listening bias to thinking Mark thinks that Bill O'Reilly and the NWO are the liars that need to be exposed.
Still works.
Doesn't matter, its coming to the surface. When I tell people about this stuff now they just nod their heads . . . the Bush crime family have lost all credibility.
http://www.truthcult.com
RT, here are some paragraphs for you
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my eyes hurt :(
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Cuban Loose change kids????
RT your right, not only should We be wary of Cuban, But also the loose change kids. This could be there last ditch effort to stop the truth By Making a movie full of theory and none of facts. Which would be very easily debunked. It seems weird to me that the loose change kids don't reach out to us in the 911 movement more, like have us screen there movie, give them pointers not to boost your ego RT but your Knowledge of 911 surpasses anyone associated with loose change. There is a lot of people on 911 blogger that fit in that category.
By they way it seems to me that the MSM when referring to 911 is using the Jew card way to much Why?
I think you've hit it GIR!
There are lots of us who know a lot about 9/11--not everything, but more than enough to spread the word. Not just that, but there are plenty of 9/11 documentaries that have been made and many more that could be made.
Here's a paragraph, Bruce. Breathe....
We seem to agree that Mark Cuban is not above suspicion, even worse he seems to have been involved in some sort of purging of truth videos from youtube (I don't have any knowledge of that myself but I assume people here know what they're talking about!) So here we are trying to figure out what his interest in LCFC means.
Is Mark Cuban trying to get control of Loose Change to limit its reach? To what end? Will he do the same with 9/11 Mysteries? Press for Truth? Improbable Collpase? What good would it do anyone to suppress Loose Change?
Or is the truth that Loose Change is in fact the honeypot of all honeypots? Remember Dan Rather and the fake memo containing real information about George Bush's military record? How about a fake documentary containing real information about 9/11, but in some way flawed so as to discredit the rest? It's possible, yes. Remember that Loose Change was originally, according to its makers, supposed to be a fictional account of a conspiracy behind 9/11, until they realized that there really was a conspiracy and decided to make it a documentary. That has always seemed way strange to me.
I can't help thinking that the best defense for the perps, aside from blocking any mention of the truth in the mainstream, was to make sure that they also controlled the alternative media on the subject. They had to create the truth movement before the truth movement created itself, or someone else created it who would be out of their control.
This could explain Eric Hufschmid, the half brother of Rupert Murdoch's daughter in law being one of the first to publish a book and DVD about 9/11. Hufschmid for some reason felt it necessary to discuss the JFK assassination in his book, and then also revealed himself to be a doubter of the moon landing and the holocaust. One of the first negative responses I received to a poster I put up about 9/11 was a note someone attached to it saying how if you believed this you would also believe the moon landing and holocaust were faked--I must say it made me quite suspicious of Hufschmid, as did his feud with the Loose Change guys and his incessant talk of "crypto-Jews", a term I find to be pretty offensive.
It stands to reason that the fake movement, like the fake left, would meld to some extent with the real movement, just as the fake left works in tandem with plenty of honest leftists. I think that David Ray Griffin is for real--a look at his books and lectures leaves me with a good feeling about him. Kevin Ryan is someone else I have no reservations about. Willie Rodriguez and Steven Jones have associated themselves closely with suspect people in the past and so I have my reservations. Jones hooked up with Fetzer, a clear plant, and Rodriguez with Jimmy Walter, who if I'm not mistaken revealed himself to be a no-planer (at the towers.)
Jones also wrote an unfortunate paper analyzing pre-Columbian American art for signs of Jesus's having visited America that has been passed around. No matter how good his paper on the physics of collapse is, that's just weird. It doesn't mean he's dishonest, but it affects his credibility in many people's eyes. Since any competent physics professor could do the same work it bothers me a little that the one who has become well known for his work has such baggage. Willie on the other hand would seem to have impeccable credentials as a rescue hero (unless his story is an elaborate hoax) but he seems to have been targeted by people with bad advice, and treating the key to the stairwells like a holy relic is also a bit weird.
I think the point I'm trying to make is that we don't have to follow anyone's lead on 9/11--we should each pursue our own path as we see fit, and together our efforts will correct each other. An extraordinary crime requires an extraordinary cover-up, after all, and I thinki we've seen enough to know that the perps agents are among us (Barry Zwicker makes this point). Instead of freaking out and turning on each other like rats deprived of sleep and food, however, we should try to keep our spirits up, and not allow the desire for unity to trump our need for caution qas we move forward. Because friends, we ARE moving forward, which is precisely what causes the weirdness to flare up as is happening now with OReilly and Mark Cuban.
Don't trust me, either. I could just as easily be a plant who will turn on you one day. Each of us has a duty to the others to maintain a high degree of individual thought and initiative that will insulate us from groupthink. All the good ones know who they are--and as the truth comes out, we will be obvious to each other by virtue of our genuine air of happiness over the fact. We can win, and by god I think we WILL win!
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Damn
RT....when is the book coming out.... JK ;-P
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good question
it's Bruce, he mad eme use paragraphs which made that longer than it should have been! :) personally i'm looking forward tto the 9/11 Blogger Victory Ball when we win--there will be toasts upon toasts that will have to be made all around for this crowd...
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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
*raises a glass*
Why wait? Cheers.
In all honesty
You can not fault a man for trying to find the truth and evidence for the religion he has chosen.
I wish more religious people spent a bit more time going to the depth of their religion or others.
If you did some research perhaps you would understand the depth of his questioning. There are many who believe that after Jesus Christ rose that he did make a journey to Central America.
And when the Spainards arrived they believed that this was the return of their white bearded savior. I forget much of the details but there is much to question in this matter.
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And to be fair
what Steven Jones did in "Behold My Hands" was offer a hypothesis -- regardless of how strange it might appear -- and offer evidence in support of it -- regardless of how far-fetched it might appear.
So, in terms of science and logic, there's nothing wrong with that. It's a hypothesis, it's up for debate, and it's not presented as fact. It is, however, religious baloney in my opinion.
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"There are many who believe
"There are many who believe that after Jesus Christ rose that he did make a journey to Central America."
Those many are called mormons. Outside of them, not too many people believe that. Not in the scientific community or in the 2 billion+ Christian community.
News editor at The Watchman Report, www.watchmanreport.com, delivering 9/11 truth to the Christian community
I don't hold peoples beliefs againt them.
Being facetious as I say this, religion is like a hereditary disease, it's passed from generation to generation. I would also dare point out that it's the number one killer 'disease' ever.
With the knowledge that there has been sixteen different versions of the christain christ the last ten thousand years, I find all 'modern' religions to be a little silly. It's all based on astrology.
Hey, that was just a jolly tease
with the paragraphs. Don't worry about my breathing.
I basically agree with the rest of what you said. We should always keep our eyes and minds open and absolve no one of scrutiny. And as long as each of us remains independent, there is simply no way anyone could critically harm our cause -- we are WAY too decentral, and thus uncontrollable. Unless we ALL blow it and get fooled.
That's the beauty of it.
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Keep your enemies close and your friends closer
Yea wow we will find out when final cut is released i can guarantee there will be no mention of Israel if there is it will be like a borat satire
Hufschmid Smith Is well Very serious about exposing Zionism They are sincere with there work But They think everyone is a Zionist agent who doesn't link Zionism in every faucet of life they could be right i Just don't know I have to study both sides but to blame everyone with no proof seems a little fishy Here is what Hufschmid says about Cuban very interesting
http://www.iamthewitness.com/2929Entertainment.htm
Well About Jones looking for Jesus in ancient Colombian art can be very easily explained He is Mormon and Mormon Believe that Jesus went to south America before he descended up into heaven My step father is Mormon boy is he brainwashed
Let me get this
Let me get this straight.This Mark Cuban guy has sued the most prolithic 911 truther on YouTube & now hundreds of 911 truth videos that were there aren't,and you're wondering if we can trust him!! LOl! This is like the big oil company buying the secret formula that turns water into gas so they can kill it before it puts them out of business!Sure,he'll buy the formula...& make the lose change guys rich.......but you'll never fill your car with a garden hose & drive off & you'll never see a new lose change in the theatres...or maybe one or two...but never on YouTube.
Distribution of Loose Change.
It's always been my impression that the Loose Change guys are sincere. I admit I could be wrong. Even so, if as you say, Mark Cuban can kill distribution of the movie, another better movie will sprout up in it's place. And another Mark Cuban may try to control it's distribution. Don't underestimate the power of the Truth Movement.
What has more power? Truth or money?
Awareness+ activism+ rebellion= New Paradigm.
Dylan's take on the subject.
If I may respond to my own comment. Here's an interesting comment from Dylan hisself over at Loose Change website.
"Waterbender....let's do a little role playing.
You're a theatrical distribution company.
Somebody like me comes up to you and says, "I'd like you to spend a million dollars producing our film, as well as more millions in prints and advertising, putting yourself and your company at major financial and political risk by embracing a film as controversial as mine.......but I also want it available for free on the internet."
Do you...
1) Smile and nod?
2) Laugh?
3) Throw me out of your office?
This is not multiple choice. "
Find it here; http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5967
Now try to imagine youself in Dylan's shoes. Everyone has an opinion, a suggestion or an insult. I will continue to support Dylan & co. (I have to, I bought 2 Loose Change sweatshirts, I'm committed.)
Awareness+ activism+ rebellion= New Paradigm.
IF YOU HAVENT READ THE WHOLE THREAD
GO BACK AND READ IT
There is valid reason to NOT trust Cuban in this deal.
He is wacky and I would never trust him with anything, now hearing his comments on these issues I seriously doubt he will distro the movie. He's probably trying to lock it up in some court battle bs, with no dvd, and no internet release available.
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So good to hear O'Reilly get poned
I do approach Mark Cuban with skepticism...believe Me, it's a learned trait being in the truth movement.
Cuban does give Me the cautious attitude, because when somebody challenges him, He has the tendency to roll over them and take no prisoners.
On the other hand, it seems that He goes with the idea that making money through internet journalism is a future endeavor and since loose change is so popular, He sees it as a potential cash cow. In his production company; 2929 Entertainment, there is a subsidiary called Magnolia productions..now I don't know if Halifaxion was using these without his consent and he called in his hand while all these 9/11 videos were a part of the whole piece within a legal battle. Perhaps the full story on this would tell whether or not that is what went down...I'll be checking into this to be certain.
It is 2929 Entertainment that produced the films...Enron: The Smartest Guys In The Room, and Good Night And Good Luck. Both very good, informative movies.
Right now I'm ecstatic that Bill got smacked down for once in a long time.
The master class has always declared the wars; the subject class has always fought the battles.
Verify Accusations Please
Please post links when you say that Mark Cuban is suing google.
If we don't substantiate our claims, then we become "just like Bill".
"Considering Rosie O'Donnell is a holocaust denier, why would believe anything she says . . ." - get the point.
Tell you what, I'm going to go do a little research of Mark Cuban and I'll be back in a few.
http://www.truthcult.com
Here's one Mark Cuban sues google interview
http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2007/03/14/mark-cuban-google-may-not-know-i...
My quick read of whats going on is that Mark's movies are being uploaded to google. This is a violation of current copyright law.
Keep in mind that the NSA has its tentacles deep into google. Whatever is going on, its not as simple as Mark wants to buy Loose Change and kill it.
More like . . . Mark wants loose change so he can make a killing and purchase some leverage in the upcoming copyright lawsuits as old media battles new.
Its not good against evil, its just a game.
http://www.truthcult.com
Wait a minute here
Magnolia singled out HALIFAXION out of hundreds of video clips on youtube by magnolia pictures.
Halifaxion only uploaded 3 small clips of an enron documentary...not the entire thing.
Why single out the biggest youtube 9/11 truther?
This stinks of something worse
Or does Cuban want to make money with 9/11 truth
videos, having exclusive rights to all, and then charging a fee to have them downloaded to the public access. In other words, a cash endeavor. While He wants to a corporate entity himself. What is his motive? Does Cuban like the money? Of course He does, He has plenty of it. My concern here is, does He want the power? The power to control information? To become a media monopoly in his own right?
My suggestion is to have as many videos for ourselves now, before the video police come to your home.
I am watching Cuban with a critical eye to see if this looks like He wants to own 9/11 rights for money or suppression. We all should.
The master class has always declared the wars; the subject class has always fought the battles.
Calling all New Yorkers
O'Reilly says New York is his town. "The people in my town", he says, "do not want Loose Change playing in a theatre or Charlie Sheen narrating it."
O'Reilly says that you believe that Loose Change is "dishonest."
O'Reilly says that you believe that Loose Change "diverts attention away from the real villains."
O'Reilly says that you believe that Loose Change "gives fodder to the anti-American kooks all over the world."
Is this true? Is this what you believe? Does O'Reilly really speak for you?
O'Reilly, according to O'Reilly, is an expert at mass media and that no one knows any more about mass media than he does. O'Reilly says that Al Jazeera is going to ram Loose Change down your throat. Just who rams more mass media down your throat? O'Reilly and Fox News or Al Jazeera.
O'Reilly, while claiming to be a good American who is concerned for his country, admits to believing in the legitimacy of censorship. Strange, don't you think, coming from someone whose livelihood is dependent upon two fundamental and unalienable Rights, freedom of speech and freedom of the press, which are the antithesis of censorship. It seems O'Reilly believes that these Rights are solely for him to exercise. But, woe be unto any other who dares to do the same.
If O'Reilly doesn't speak for you, please let him know.
Do it on the Eleventh of Every Month.
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The true threat to liberty comes not from terrorists but from our political leaders whose natural inclination is to seize upon any excuse to diminish them.
~~ Walter Williams, Nightly Business Report, September 2001
Aproached With Caution
Good point. This should all be approached with caution.
Either LCFC comes out solid
Either LCFC comes out solid with damning connections or it has limited credibility.
It's not like the information isn't out there. Who chooses what goes in, what stays out? I'd think that would be pretty telling, depending on the content.
It'd be quite silly to see it turn into some kind of Wraith of 9/11 Truth. Get it?
I'd prefer a movie that discussed and dismissed the bs as well as presented sharp points of interest than a "crazy movie".
But that's just me. Probably not.
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