....with all the practice you've gotten recently vis-a-vis Weick-off, you are 911Blogger's Doberman Pinscher in the House of Truth....

:)

Granted, it's one way to keep your 9/11 Truth chops up....

He didn't consult you Jon???

I had to change my number he was calling so much.... ;)

DRG probably didn't think you would be able to keep a secret..... you know that a conspiracy can be kept hidden only if it involves one person..... because if there is more than one person involved it is sure to be leaked.... I learned that from a FBI expert on conspiracies.....

Could you keep it quiet that they were putting a book together to debunk the debunkers?..... we both know that would be a big NO!

Maybe it is time for you to conspire to write your own book.... because eveybody knows .....we are all in it for the money

Bling Bling

Now assume you are part of the global elite, burdened with great wealth and the responisbility to the lead the masses and shape the world to the greater good (to them more control = more stability = better world).

Having known that war is the greatest way to change society, your associates have opened Pandora's Box of chaos utilizing your method of problem-reaction-solution / Hegelian dialect. You know that it is almost a certainty that a terrorist will cause a mass killing in the U.S., possibly detonating a nuclear bomb and killing millions.

This would undoubtedly shake America to its core and possibly destablize the entire world. To prevent this and continue on your gradual method of slowly changing the world, you decide to plan a "Controlled Terrorist Attack" that has a lot of shock value but with very little death and minimal disruption to the global system.

Thus, "Controlled Terrorism" is better than "Uncontrolled Terrorism". So after the controlled 9/11, you now have the justification to increase military spending, limit civil liberties, and go to war with the Middle East for control of oil and to shape a new world order. The 3,000 people who you killed in the Controlled Terrorist Attack was very small in comparison to the number who would certianly be killed eventually in an Uncontrolled Terrorist Attack.

To you, your results create a global Utopia of world peace, even though liberty, freedom, soverignty, religion and individualism is mostly eliminated. There is no more war, there is no more starvation -- you have achieved the noble greater good dreamt by so many.

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So what is worse? Both scenarios can be rationalized and justified as having noble intentions. It all goes to what you think the end result is and if it's worth it. I think the 9/11 movement really should study the psychology behind how 9/11 could have been an inside job. How people could remain silent about the conspiracy because they sincerely believe it will eventually save the world. And also have the truth movement offer a counter solution to the current global elites goals for a new world order.

The world is in chaos, clearly things have to change...let's not let a bunch of evil selfish banking/corporate/collectivists mold the world to benefit the select few.

(I'm a libertarian. I don't agree with allowing 9/11 to happen, just a thought experiment)

(People say, well why would they need to fly the planes into the buildings AND demolish them so they came down? Wouldn't doing one or the other justify us going to war? For only 3,000 people dying, 9/11 provided massive shock value in seeing two (three) skyscrapers fall down and the Pentagon on fire)

Unless there's solid physical evidence or a top level whistle blower that comes forward, I doubt we'll ever be able to fully debunk the debunkers. Sure we can counter their argument, but it will become an endless debate like the JFK assassination.

I think the psychology of how 9/11 could be an inside job is a great way to show cause. If we can argue the reasons some may believe 9/11 was a good and necessary event, perhaps than people can get past the "oh I can't believe my government would ever do such a thing" mentality. Similiar to the Pearl Harbor books that argue that allowing the attack was a good thing to get us in the war, etc.

In addition, I think the 9/11 truth movement needs to offer a solution to the entire truth movement, like the information mentioned in Aaron Russo's documentary. If we can offer counter solutions to the Federal Reserve and their global system, then we can beat them at their own game.

Perhaps my posts got voted down for being off topic, but I sincerely believe to convince anyone of the truth you have to adquetely explain WHY and offer a counter-HOW to fix the problem 9/11 allegedly solves.

He has thoroughly and completely proved that the 9/11 Commission Report is one big myth. He has never tried to prove any particular theory so we're not going to hear about Zionism from him or any other "theory".

One of the main arguments for foreknowledge of 9-11 is that any rational person looking at the warnings and evidence accumulated by U.S. officials before 9-11 would have concluded that an attack was going to occur. To not have put in motion measures to stop it therefore proves complicity.

Consider two clues:

The FAA has a “Red Team” whose job it is to try to smuggle explosives and weapons past airport checkpoints to test airport security. According to Bogdan Dzakovic, a member of the team, airport security failed 90 percent of the tests, but the FAA did nothing about it, essentially blocking further tests.

A report by the Library of Congress to the National Intelligence Council stated: ‘Suicide bomber belonging to Al Qaeda’s Martyrdom Battalion could crash land an aircraft packed with high explosives into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the C.I.A. or the White House.’

The New Yorker reports that according to Richard A. Clarke, U.S. National Coordinator for Counterterrorism in the White House, about ten weeks before 11th September, the U.S. intelligence community was convinced that a terrorist attack by Al-Qaeda on U.S. soil was imminent. Seven to eight weeks prior to the 11th September attacks, all internal U.S. security agencies were warned of an impending Al-Qaeda attack against the Untied States that would likely occur in several weeks time: “Meanwhile, intelligence had been streaming in concerning a likely Al Qaeda attack. ‘It all came together in the third week in June,’ Clarke said. ‘The C.I.A.’s view was that a major terrorist attack was coming in the next several weeks’.” On July 5th, Clarke “summoned all the domestic security agencies—the Federal Aviation Administration, the Coast Guard, Customs, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and the F.B.I.” and informed them “of an impending attack.”

Approximately 4 weeks prior to 11th September, the CIA took seriously specific information of an impending Al-Qaeda attack on U.S. soil. The Associated Press reports that: “Officials also said the CIA had developed general information a month before the attacks that heightened concerns that bin Laden and his followers were increasingly determined to strike on U.S. soil.” A CIA official affirmed that: “There was something specific in early August that said to us that he was determined in striking on U.S. soil.” AP elaborates that: “The information prompted the CIA to issue a warning to federal agencies.”

So it is clear that the U.S. intelligence community was anxiously anticipating an imminent Al-Qaeda attack in the next few weeks. But that is not all. The specific method of the attacks – using planes as missiles or bombs – was also known by U.S. intelligence. The U.S. intelligence community received warnings six months before 11th September, warnings which were repeated again three months before that date, that “Middle Eastern terrorists” planned to hijack planes to use as missiles against prominent American buildings. These warnings were not ignored or dismissed. On the contrary, they were taken very seriously by the U.S. intelligence community. Newsbytes, an online division of the Washington Post, reported in mid-September that:

“U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies received warning signals at least three months ago that Middle Eastern terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American and Israeli culture, according to a story in Germany’s daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ).

“The FAZ, quoting unnamed German intelligence sources, said that the Echelon spy network was being used to collect information about the terrorist threats, and that U.K. intelligence services apparently also had advance warning. The FAZ, one of Germany’s most respected dailies, said that even as far back as six months ago western and near-east press services were receiving information that such attacks were being planned. Within the American intelligence community, the warnings were taken seriously and surveillance intensified, the FAZ said.”

The last comment - “Within the American intelligence community, the warnings were taken seriously and surveillance intensified” - is crucial. It clearly indicates that in response to the ECHELON warnings, the entire U.S. intelligence community - all U.S. intelligence agencies - were on alert for a hijacking attempt that would attempt to hurl planes into “symbols of American” culture. So the U.S. intelligence community knew both that an Al-Qaeda attack was imminent, and also that the attack would attempt to use civilian planes as bombs to hit prominent U.S. targets.

John McMurtry cites another revealing piece of evidence indicating specifically that U.S. intelligence had been aware that these targets were located in lower Manhattan – the World Trade Center is of course the most prominent terrorist target in that district, particularly since it had already been targeted in the past by terrorists linked to bin Laden in 1993:

“Perhaps most remarkably, there had been direct warnings from the Republican Party’s own past Chief Investigative Council for the House Judiciary Committee to the closed decision circuits of Congress and the Bush administration. Representing F.B.I. special agents suing the U.S. Justice Department (along with Washington-DC Judicial Watch), David Philip Schippers reported in Houston on October 10 on the ‘Alex Jones Talk Show’ that these agents knew of a plan of bin Laden’s network to attack Lower Manhattan with ‘commercial airlines as bombs’ long before 9-11, but were blocked from investigative and preventative action by F.B.I. and U.S. Justice Department command, and threatened with prosecution under the National Security Act if they published this information. Attorney-General Ashcroft himself, reports Schippers, refused to return calls on this matter to his fellow senior Republican for four weeks before 9-11.”

At the same time, U.S. intelligence was aware that suspected terrorists linked to Osama bin Laden were training at U.S. flight schools. The Washington Post reported, for instance, that the FBI had in fact known this for several years - yet, absolutely nothing had been done about it:

“Federal authorities have been aware for years that suspected terrorists with ties to Osama bin Laden were receiving flight training at schools in the United States and abroad, according to interviews and court testimony… A senior government official yesterday acknowledged law enforcement officials were aware that fewer than a dozen people with links to bin Laden had attended U.S. flight schools.”

All this information was widely known in the U.S. intelligence community. U.S. intelligence operatives were fully aware of their dire implications. But they were forced into a state of inaction by the studious passivity of Washington. One active FBI counter-terrorism investigator, for instance, testifies that it was widely known “all over the Bureau, how these [warnings] were ignored by Washington...
What is clear from this data is that it is wrong to assume that one agency had one bit of information, another agency had another, and due to incompetence either the information was not taken seriously or it was not connected, or both. On the contrary, the entire U.S. intelligence community was alerted to the relevant information, and took it seriously. Given that the White House Counterterrorism Security Group, coordinating the findings of all federal agencies, was working incessantly on the Al-Qaeda plot prior to 9/11, this is not surprising.

A few weeks prior to September 11th 2001, the intelligence community thus anticipated: an imminent Al-Qaeda terrorist attack on U.S. soil; the hijacking of civilian planes to be used as missiles to target iconic structures symbolic of American power; the targeting of buildings in lower Manhattan. But preventive action in response to this precise information – such as apprehending Al-Qaeda operatives at U.S. flight schools - was blocked from Washington.

The above analysis demonstrates that even a cursory inspection of some pertinent facts suffices to discredit the simplistic “incompetence theory”. Instead, the facts clearly indicate that the Washington political echelon simply refused to act on accurate and precise intelligence of the impending attacks.
Now, why is that? CB? Killtown? Ronnie? Brainster?

Passenger jet hijackings are not uncommon and the U.S. government has prepared detailed plans to handle them. On Sept. 11 these plans were ignored in their entirety… Here are the FAA regulations concerning hijackings: ‘The FAA hijack coordinator…on duty at Washington headquarters will request the military to provide an escort aircraft for a confirmed hijacked aircraft… The escort service will be requested by the FAA hijack coordinator by direct contact with the National Military Command Center (NMCC).’ Here are the instructions issued by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on June 1, 2001: ‘In the event of a hijacking, the NMCC will be notified by the most expeditious means by the FAA. The NMCC will…forward requests for DOD assistance to the Secretary of Defense for approval.’… The U.S. is supposed to scramble military aircraft the moment a hijacking is confirmed.
Why were exercises planned on 9/11, simulating hijacked planes, despite all the warnings? Certainly it was figured to cause great confusion; To allow the planes to reach their destination without any resistance. Not a hard one to figure out.

I did not watch the 60 Minutes show but Dr. Stan Monteith has mentioned this interview several times (RadioLiberty.com).

I would be happy to do a transcription if I could at least get the audio.

What Dr. Stan said was that the interviewer asked Mr. Bush how he could send 20,000 more troops to Iraq when the people of the U.S.A. do not support him or his war on Iraq. (a paraphrase)

Mr. Bush replied, according to Dr. Stan, that he (Bush) did not care what the people of the USA thought of him or his plans because he was the decider.

Now, that to me, is also a rather profound revelation for all to see and hear.

Ladies and gentlemen, we the people do not "elect" dictators in the constitutional republlic of the United States of America.

The Iraq war (and coming explanded Middle East war) is a LIE WAR

because

9-11 was an inside job

Troops HOME NOW.

We need to hit the streets in protests big time right now in growing numbers because our phone calls, emails, letters and faxes are being ignored wholesale by our totally purchased fake U.S. congress members. We must act to stop the murder of thousands of more innocent people. we clearly have a treasonous murderous lying president in power and he must be stopped NOW.

(If anyone can get the link, please email it to me so I'll be sure to get it.)

Men and women become accomplices to the evil they fail to oppose.

Blessings from Dachsie in Austin.

I'm agnostic on the Lizard People at this point. I used to think Alex Jones was an over-amped "nut". Now I just wish he was a nut.

"Sweet Jesus I Hate Billy OLieLee!"

Icke is brilliant and at this point I'm praying for extra-terrestrial intervention.

A little crazy? Maybe, but then so were/are a lot of brilliant people. All I know is the things he says regarding the 'Lizard People' are no crazier than what popular religions espouse, and he's backed up by a whole lot of what 'they' call 'mythology'. The key thing is he's been speaking out against the Elites for a long time and they have done all they can to smear him.

Watch a couple of his vids on google. You will come away more enlightened, with a better understanding of the 'Illuminated Ones', and a glimpse of history we aren't supposed to see.

You are right that Truthers do need to be concious of what can be used against us, and to guard against it.

Although, it should be noted many of the "lightworkers" like Icke have been right on about the dark forces at work for a long time. And I can't help noticing that these criminals look more like reptiles every day that goes by.