San Francisco Tea Party for 9/11 Truth - 12/16/2006

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/12/07/18335726.php

In solidarity and in spirit with the Boston Tea Party for 9/11 Truth and the patriots who, on December 16, 1773 said "No!" to lack of representation and tyranny by tossing crates of British tea into Boston harbor, the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance will enact a "9/11 Truth Tea Party" on December 16, 2006, calling upon those who cherish the ideals of liberty and justice to cast off the tyrannies imposed on the American public and the world that were sold by governmental lies after 9/11, and in the official 9/11 Commission Report. We will cast a large replica of the flawed Report into the Bay.

For those who cannot cross the continent to be with our brothers and sisters in Boston, we will gather in San Francisco to hear about the “Connected Dots” that should be “Heard Round the World,” and to voice our own proclamation demanding an immediate, genuinely independent investigation. We applaud the efforts to re-establish Citizen Grand Juries by which the pre-Revolutionary War colonists legally threw off the yoke of tyranny. We will proudly parade an enlarged replica of the deeply flawed 9/11 Commission Report to the waters of San Francisco Bay. There we will declare its false-conclusions ‘null and void.’

According to the latest polls, 62% of the American people believe that the official 9/11 story of George W, King Pretender, is fatally flawed or a deliberate lie. As more and more scholars, physicists, engineers, architects, and high-level government, military and intelligence insiders come forward to contribute to a fuller understanding of the true facts of 9/11 (patriotsquestion911.org), often at great risk to themselves, so too must we come forward to add our voices to those of Boston and New England 9/11 Truth groups who believe that truth is the moral imperative of our democratic society and an obligation of all public servants .

The catastrophic events of 9/11 and the illegal, unilateral wars and unprecedented assaults on our constitutional rights and liberties here at home, justified by the official lie about who perpetrated the 9/11 events, are at the very center of everyday life in America. We therefore will accept no compromise until the full truth of 9/11 reclaims its rightful place at the core of the American psyche. Only a complete and independent 9/11 investigation will yield the answers all Americans deserve. These answers will empower us to confront the Bush Administration’s challenges to the freedoms and democracy guaranteed by our Constitution and defended through the sacrifices of those who have come before us and the many who are still dying because of this unconscionable official Lie.

San Francisco Bay TEA PARTY for 9/11 TRUTH
PROCLAMATION 12/16/2006

Fellow citizens, the lies and deceptions of the tyrannical elite within our government regarding the crimes of September 11, 2001 have undermined our democratic processes and our liberties, and have been used to launch wars upon other nations for far too long. The White House, the Courts, and US Congress are hereby advised that we, the citizenry of these United States, declare an uncompromising DEMAND for:

A genuine independent investigation of the attacks on 9/11/2001.

Whereas the catastrophic events of September 11, 2001 have been used to justify attacks upon our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and habeas corpus, and whereas subsequent wars launched upon the world have, together, threatened all of humanity--physically, legally, morally, and psychologically; and

Whereas the 9/11 Commission ignored the fact that the Government lied and falsified scientific data about the quality of the air and water in the wake of 9/11, thereby compounding the disaster, endangering the health of unprotected first responders and citizens, sacrificing them in the interests of re-opening Wall Street, and later fighting the victims in court to deny them health benefits; and

Whereas the 9/11 Commission was directed by Dr. Philip Zelikow, author of Bush’s “pre-emptive war doctrine,” whose tenure as a member of the Bush National Security transition team caused him to appear as a witness before the Commission and represented so outrageous a conflict of interest that the 9/11 Family Steering Committee demanded his resignation, to no avail; and whereas Dr. Zelikow's expertise is the creation and maintenance of, in his words, “public myths,” which he defined as “beliefs… thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty),” and in what he called “‘searing’ or ‘molding’ events [that] take on ‘transcendent’ importance and retain their power” across generations; and

Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate members of the Administration who also were members of the Project for a New American Century and wrote "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force," which stated the need for the Department of Defense to "move more aggressively to experiment with new technologies and operational concepts,” and that "further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor;” and

Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate numerous Air Force war games conducted on September 11, 2001 that severely crippled our highly competent aircraft interception capability; and

Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate or even mention the demolition of the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7, which was not struck by a plane, but went down at near freefall speed at 5:20 pm on 9/11; and

Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to mention that fire had never caused steel-frame high-rise buildings to collapse, and that the pulverization of the towers shared the distinctive features of controlled demolitions, and mischaracterized the towers' core structure as “a hollow steel shaft,” ignoring the 47 massive steel support columns as large as 22 inches by 54 inches; and

Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate and explain how the Pentagon, within the most-guarded airspace on the planet, including its own missile defense system, was penetrated on 9/11/2001; and

Whereas, the 9/11 Commission decided that who financed 9/11 was “of little practical significance,” ignoring evidence that top ISI General Mahmoud Ahmad had $100,000 wired to alleged lead pilot Mohammed Atta, and evidence that top Al Qaeda operative Ali Mohammed, who was involved with the ’93 WTC bombings, the African Embassy attacks and 9/11, was employed and protected by the FBI, CIA and the US military; and

Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed so utterly in its stated mission “to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks,” that Dr. David Ray Griffin, author of The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, deemed the Commission’s effort a 571-page lie, after chronicling 115 of its “errors;”

We, people of the United States of America, today, from Boston to California, from sea to shining sea, on the sixteenth day of December in the year two thousand and six, do hereby REJECT the findings contained in the Report of the Kean-Hamilton Commission to Investigate Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, and DEMAND the release of documents, evidence, withheld by the government, and an IMMEDIATE, genuinely Independent 9/11 investigation with subpoena powers, independent 9/11 researchers, and oversight by 9/11 families and concerned citizens.

Join us, be not afraid-- the day of reckoning and the end of the era of lies, deceit, tyranny, and war is at hand.
May truth, peace, liberty, respect for life and justice prevail.*

Schedule:

1:00 pm Rally near the Aquarium at Pier 39

Parade along the waterfront westward

2:00 pm Rally at the base of Hyde Street Pier

2:30 pm Rally at the bleachers at Aquatic Park

2:45- 3:00 March to the end of the Municipal Pier-

Cast the 9/11 Report into the Bay (Dunking 3:00 pm)

*Colonial Wear - Simple instruction on becoming an american colonial patriot

Tri corner hat - easily procured from costume shops and online, White loose fitting shirt to wear under vest or cloak, Vest and or Cape
Pants, use corduroy pants, roll them up to the knee , Socks long socks from knee length , Black shoes (with buckle if possible)
Bring a fife, drum, historical flag, hand held bells, Signs, create your own signs - use colonial typefaces if you can - Caslon is a good one.

Thanks Carol and parrotfish for sending this in.

hell yeah

I still gotta find a copy of that foul thing. "Colonial wear" lol yeah right - I think I'll wear my Tyranny Response Team t-shirt.

The Nation cover story on 9/11 - a disaster

This is about as feeble as they come. It's called "9/11: The Roots of Paranoia." (You can pretty much guess what the rest of the article will be like from that title alone.) http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061225/hayes

That calls for mass subscription cancellations

along with a storm of phone calls, emails and letters.

I wish I subscribed so I could cancel it!

Here's some contact info:

http://www.thenation.com/contact/lett

Telephone: 212-209-5400 (voice) 212-982-9000 (fax)

Mailing Address: 33 Irving Place New York, New York 10003

 

Call in, it's a good idea

I just called in. The woman at the end of the line listened and listened. I encouraged her to tell the persons next to her that this peice from the Nation was not a fair representation of truth. She listened and I think she understood.

My letter to the Editor:

This is a simple comment on the recent article about 9/11. That you failed to even mention the mysterious collapse of WTC building 7 at 5pm later on the same day is insult to the fairness of your reporting. That you failed to mention the numerous credible persons, such as those former members of the Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 administrations, who have publicly stated doubts about the official story. That you failed to include reports of foreknowledge of this event, coming in the form of unusual stock trading and warnings by other governments. That you failed to mention the effective military stand down on 9/11, in the form of numerous 'war games', providing the opportunity for these airlines to fly unobstructed in areas that are normally well protected. That you failed to include the new interpretations of our history on Dec 7, 1941 - as a false flag attack used to induce the public into accepting that our country was at war, it's clear that your reporting on this issue is lame and transparently biased. Give it up. Grow a spine.

I'll tell what I think. I think you all know how close to the truth this large and growing movement is. I think you are worried that truth will be known by all.

In sadness, due to your utter complicity, MT

Christopher Haye's email address

Here is the author's email address:

christopherlhayes@gmail.com

Give him a piece of your mind!

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wow, they go after the

wow, they go after the weakest of all theories that most 9/11 activists find laughable, the no-plane/hologram theory. your gonna have to do better than that coward.

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Anonymous, did you write the following on this website...

please stop the infighting.

just so you know who i am: i\'m not an 9/11 truth activist (yet).

i\'m sitting on the fence of wether to actively dive into this movement more deeply.

in the past i\'ve been involved in the european anti-nuclear power station movement.

here i\'m only a lurker for now, since about 5 months.

i\'m visiting this site a few times each week because the topic has triggered my curiosity.

meanwhile i\'m convinced the government lies, and the three wtc towers did not come down because of fires and jet fuel alone.

somebody must have helped the 19 suspected terrorists (or replaced them).

Be honest, "Anonymous"

Hey stallion4

You know what? I think that was actually a different anonymous. I can understand your thinking here, but I think the guy above was legit. (I remember this person, and the "since about 5 months" phrase is an indication that he really is probably European. Not that there aren't European trolls, but this other anon strikes me as a native English speaker. PM me about it if you want.)

i dont know, i think its the

i dont know, i think its the same guy trying to pull a fast one. what are the chances that this guy would have the backslash tick as well as our resident Anonymous troll?

I hear ya, Chris

You guys may be right -- but if this is from the thread I'm thinking of, it would be very out of character for Ernie and much better acting than he seems capable of.

Mr Backslash!!!!

No way!
Mr Backslash, shame on you! Posing as a rational thinker!
This is hilarious, though! This guy is a total joke!

You're right about it being worthless. I sent them this...

My reply to The Nation:

To The Nation, 12/09/06
I just read your article, " 9/11: The Roots of Paranoia". You are wrong in this piece. Your assertion about 9/11 truth being grounded in paranoia is without merit. Furthermore, this country is beginning to to wake up to the truth (which always comes out in the end). History ultimately will view The Nation, along with the rest of a cowardly mainstream US media, as having only contempt for truth and justice regarding the greatest crime in American history, for you are proponents of the coverup.

9/11 was an inside job, and you continue to perpetuate the lie that it wasn't. You should be ashamed of yourselves. There is a plethora of information that indicates the government’s story is untrue, but above it all, there are three smoking guns that prove this. If you were a credible news organization, one that operated with journalistic intergrity, you would investigate these.

Here are three 9/11 smoking guns that have never been refuted:

1.
The obvious controlled demolition of WTC7
Link: http://killtown.911review.org/video/wtc7/wtc7_cbs_closeup.mpeg

2.
“Seismic Proof – 9/11 Was An Inside Job (Updated Version II)”
Link: http://www.studyof911.com/articles/mirrored/craigfurlong/
By Craig T. Furlong & Gordon Ross, Scholars for 9/11 Truth: http://www.st911.org

The US Government is incriminated by its own facts—how ironic.
Summary:
News Tip: A real 9/11 smoking gun…that no one can debunk (these are facts, not theory).
Airplane “Impact” Times: Incriminating Evidence of 9/11 Coverup & Complicity

The official times for plane "impact" [precise to the second] as declared by the US Government, from both the 9/11 Commission and from NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology), are different and yet both are true and accurate times. What can this factual contradiction mean? Looking exclusively at WTC1, there is found an indisputable causal link:

One World Trade, September 11, 2001
American Airlines Flight 11 “impact” time:
8:46:30 UTC, per LDEO seismic data (National Institute of Standards and Technology, 2005)
8:46:40 UTC, per FAA last primary radar contact (9/11 Commission Final Report, 2004)

Q- What caused the 8:46:30 seismic event that occurred 10 seconds before the actual air crash?
A- The only possibility is huge explosions, as corroborated by many witnesses at the time.
Q- Who caused these explosions before the plane hit?

Notes:
In 2004, the 9/11 Commission avoided addressing the earlier seismic time (which had been attributed in error by Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, originally in 2001 as plane “impact”).
In 2005, NIST avoided addressing the 9/11 Commission’s later time for the aircraft’s actual impact.
Both the 9/11 Commission and NIST avoided addressing the many witnesses who testified of explosions in the sub-basements before the plane crashed.

Summary:
This precision data has yet to be refuted. It is from the two highest governmental entities charged with looking into what happened on 9/11. Both declared these times as accurate, and in doing so corroborate William Rodriguez and the many witnesses the morning of 9/11 who experienced explosions in the sub-basements of WTC1 before American Airlines Flight 11 struck the building. This is indicting evidence of governmental coverup, and thus implication of complicity.

3.
Observe and analyze the 12 minute scientific sound analysis found inside the movie "9/11 Eyewitness"
{To find it, go in 44 mins 30 secs}
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2939164701791209176&q=%22911+Ey...

Before it is too late, demand a new 9/11 investigation, except this time a real one.
Justice waits...{and there is no statute of time limitation on murder}

Craig T. Furlong

Last Act Of Congress

Last Act Of Congress Preserves Internment Camps
Suspicious restoration in name of "historical interest" will raise fears of link to Halliburton camps for dissidents

One of the last acts of Congress was to send President Bush a bill that establishes a $38 million program of National Park Service grants to preserve Japanese POW internment camps in Hawaii, California, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. Is this really in the name of historical interest or does it dovetail with programs on the books to intern hundreds of thousands of dissidents in a time of crisis?

The Honolulu Advertiser reports,

"Notorious internment camps where Japanese-Americans were kept behind barbed wire during World War II, including a camp in Honouliuli Gulch, will be preserved as stark reminders of how the United States turned on some of its citizens in a time of fear."

Precise details of exactly what the "restoration" of these camps will entail remain absent from news reports, but suspicions will undoubtedly be cast as to whether making the camps accessible again to process people in whatever form is part of a wider agenda to set up a network of internment camps that will be used to forcibly detain American citizens under emergency provisions.

During the Iran Contra hearings in the 80's, previously classified information came to light about Continuity of Government (CoG) procedures in times of national crisis. The masterminds behind these programs were Oliver North, Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and the Rex-84 'readiness exercise' discussed the plan to round up immigrants and detain them in internment camps in the context of uncontrolled population movements across the Mexican border.

The real agenda was to use the cover of rounding up immigrants and illegal aliens as a smokescreen for targeting political dissidents and American citizens . From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.

Since 9/11 shadow government and CoG programs that were outlined in Rex-84 have been activated, including mass warrantless wiretapping of American citizens. The internment camp program is being readied for execution following the announcement on January 24th that Halliburton subsidiary KBR (formerly Brown and Root) had been awarded a $385 million contingency contract by the Department of Homeland Security to build detention camps.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/081206lastact.htm

Don't know if this has been

Don't know if this has been posted before. David Shayler on Sky News three days ago. Invited on to talk about the Litvinenko case, it didn't take him long to direct the debate toward 9/11....

http://www.officialconfusion.com/shayleronsky.html

youtube version

David Shayler on Sky News 05th December 2006

Cremation Of Care
Thursday, December 7, 2006
Topics discussed, the Litvinenko murder, 9/11 and 7/7. (remember that Sky News is owned by Rupert Murdoch when watching this)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/071206_b_Shayler.htm

This is the first I've heard of "Rex-84"....

...Interesting name....with "Rex" meaning "King" in latin....and I'm guessing the "84" means it was written in 1984 (under Reagan)...and we all know the implications/irony of picking that year....

The only thing that would make it spookier is if it were launched (as so many other things have been, we've found out) on a 9/11(/84).

While most Americans look at the internmenet of Japanese-Americans as one of the most shameful episodes in our history, I'm sure Cheney and all the other Straussian disciples look fondly on it as an idea ahead of its time....

very disturbing stuff. you

very disturbing stuff. you should read up on REX-84 for sure. Rummy and Cheneys fingerprints are all over it.

""Rex" meaning "King" in

""Rex" meaning "King" in latin....and I'm guessing the "84" means it was written in 1984 "

REX = "Readiness Exercise", but yes, the pun is there perhaps as another layer.

offtopic newsflash!

building floor collapses!

CNN headline news

building under consruction in Washington D.C.?

30 floors up?

just one floor!

thats all I heard!

I'll keep listening for an update!

sounds like some workers were trapped or worse.

WHAT?? How could the lower floors stand up to the force??

I mean, I would have expected it to come pancaking down, with steel beams flying hundreds of feet sideways and all the concrete being pulverized.

And hey, I thought no building in DC could be higher than the capitol--is this just outside of DC?

In all seriousness let's hope no one is seriously hurt or dead...

____

Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

 

16 workers injured

The scaffolding supporting a freshly poured concrete floor collapsed!

no pancaking though

On the potomac river

apartment building

In all seriousness let's hope no one is seriously hurt or dead..

yup. sounds like they rescued and identified everyone.

Probly no bone fragments will be found on the roof of the building next door from this collapse!

collapse

With all of this damage, Silverstein ought to call and ask them to pull it.

They can't be taller than

They can't be taller than the Big Weenie (the Washington Monument).

This is a must hear. I think

This is a must hear. I think we should send this to the media.

http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/dec_07_2006.mp3

the guy uses James Brolin

the guy uses James Brolin and David Lynch to back up his claims and not Von Buelow,Jones and others? im all for people calling the FBI and pressuring them, but this guy was way off base in his tone and most of the facts he chose to use to back up his case. great idea, kind of bad execution.

has anyone seen this.. mr pink..

what happened to Dr.Jones

I've been trying to find the most accurate information as to why Dr. Steven E. Jones is no longer associated with Scholars for 9/11 truth. My best guess is that James Fetzer is "going off the deep end" so to speak. If someone could provide me with information regarding Dr. Jones' departure it would be appreciated.

I'm also interested in finding information as to who is behind the following website.
http://www.debunking911.com/

The authors of this website have seemingly gone to great lengths to disprove what we are all trying to achieve.
Is this some type of pro governement propaganda site? They have attempted to debunk everything about the towers, building 7 etc. Has anyone from that website come forward and debated any knowledgable truthers?
thx.

Quote of the Week

“The best story would be the truth of the thing. Because then you would Know. Then you would Know. It’s important. You know, we’re detectives, and we want to Know things. And when something doesn’t add up, when there’s a few questions floating about, it makes us wonder. And we really want to Know. It’s just the way the human being is. It’s so beautiful. It’s really great.” (David Lynch)
Source: http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-3278373770361450669

Don't mean to be a "Party" pooper

It's just I was always struck by one thing about the Boston Tea Party - they all disguised themselves as Native Americans. I always thought that was cowardly, and I'm sure a few natives were shot and hanged for that little party.

You misunderstand the

You misunderstand the significance of dressing up white settlers dressing up as Native Americans. It was not to hide their identities:

"Citizens of the new United States inaugurated the Republic by struggling over the meanings of the Revolution. Many saw it as a past event, successful and wholly complete. Others could not understand why they did not feel free. The former groups thought it necessary to contain any leftover rebellious impulses, while the latter concluded that still more rebellion might in fact be required. Post-Independence uprisings came quickly, and they often maintained revolu- tionary traditions of Indian disguise. In October 1791, for example, Hudson valley tenant farmers chased the Columbia County sheriff, Cornelius Hoge- boom, from a farm property being auctioned to pay rent that had fallen into arrears. A few days later, when Hogeboom made a second attempt to seize the land, "seventeen men painted and in Indian dress sallied forth from the barn, fired, and marched after them keeping up a constant firing." Sheriff Hogeboom assumed that the men only wished to frighten his party and so let one of the Indians ride up close. The masked man shot and killed him.

Rebellion and riot over rents and manorial holdings in the Hudson valley continued for the next fifty years, providing Cooper with literary grist for The Redskin.

The Revolution had been the work of both educated elites and the often riot- prone groups of sailors, workers, and small farmers who had borne much of the military burden. In the rebellion's aftermath, intellectual and economic leaders tended to move easily from philosophizing and merchandising to practical governing. Artisans, mechanics, and farmers found the shift from oppositional rebel to sacrificing citizen more difficult. They had fought and died for a free- dom largely defined by repetitive assertions that the British Empire had unfairly restricted their personal and societal liberty. Many had rallied around Tammany, using Indian costume to claim unconstrained freedom as an essential American quality, a customary right inherent in the land itself. In the Republic, however, the line between personal freedom and anarchy proved to be extremely fine. Lacking access to the corridors of nascent government power, many people continued to view attempts-like that of Cornelius Hogeboom-to organize society, generate revenue, and rearticulate pre- and post-Revolution property status as hostile encroachments on a personal freedom conceived to be almost boundless.

The Revolution itself gave playing Indian even greater evocative power, for now the practice turned on an established history. In addition to its connotations of aboriginal freedom, Indianness might also evoke the Boston Tea Party, the Philadelphia patriots, and wartime military celebrations. When they donned their costumes, the injins who shot the sheriff sought legitimation in the collec- tive memory of the Revolution while, at the same time, suggesting that the true revolution was yet to come."

- "Playing Indian"

I could use some help....

I could sure use some help over at this blog...

I feel like a voice in the wilderness against the many official story defenders at this site:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/12/your_friday_dose_of_woo_and_no...

The lead article tries to make it sound that 911 truthers are all pushing holograms and no planes!
What a bunch of crap!

Zionist lite Nation magazine "weighs in" on 911

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1208-22.htm

Published on Friday, December 8, 2006 by The Nation
9/11: The Roots of Paranoia
by Christopher Hayes

"In March 2005 Popular Mechanics assembled a team of engineers, physicists, flight experts and the like to critically examine some of the Truth Movement's most common claims. They found them almost entirely without merit. To pick just one example, steel might not melt at 1,500 degrees, the temperature at which jet fuel burns, but it does begin to lose a lot of its strength, enough to cause the support beams to fail."

I jumped in...

...and had my say. I'll wait for the ensuing attack.

the rotten fruits of Haupt,

the rotten fruits of Haupt, Wood, Reynolds and Fetzer.

Shayler in his Sky News spot

Shayler in his Sky News spot is pushing no planes, missile hit the Pentagon, size of hole in Pentagon. He throws out about 75% good stuff, 20% poor selection of topics for beginners (e.g. "I think it is oligarchs who are connected to this kind of New World Order of high finance..."), and 5% crap. Here are some comments from You Tube:

he was doing great until the his plane theory, it truly was the turd in the punch bowl.

Shayler needs to stop going on about there being no planes hitting the towers. First of all it's not feasible nor smart to use something other than jets, second, it's easily provable that jets did it, third..even if true of no planes, it provides nothing more to the plot of it being an inside job than it does of there being planes. David Icke disciple of thought this guy is.

Christ Almighty....David, shut the fuck up on the no-plane garbage. Really, it has zero positive effect trying to talk about it. You do such a damn good job of talking and making a bunch of points and all of a sudden you jump off a cliff in a clown suit. WTF

Scienceblogs

Solar, I did the best I could!

David Shayler

I'm afraid Shayler may be paid to throw poops into the punch!

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Christopher Hayes

Just a link to my expose of Hayes.
http://www.scottishinternationalist.com/the-scottish-internationalist/20... and his attempted rewrite of history