The Bush family, the whole clan, were at the blue blood cermonial champagne smashing at the launch of the brand new USSS George Bush Aircraft Carrier. More revolting than this shitty president having a billion dollar boat built in his name is the fact that the old dilapidated USS Enetrprise is part of the massive US Naval flotilla soon to arrive in prime water just outside the Persian Gulf. The problem with the USS Enterprise being apart of this mission is that the Enterprise is a White Elephant, just like the WTC Towers, outdated and not worthe the price of upgrades. Couple that with the brand new USS BushShitty carrier now available for service it seems to point to the USS Enterprise as a prime target for an false flag missle attack which might destroy it or at least land heavy damage and casualties. None the less, perfect fake justification for the attack on Iran which these hard-on neocons have been lusting after for the past 40 years, and quite uncontrollably so these last 3 years. Iran, the nation which has been warning of a quick shift from selling all their oil and gas in the hegemonies petro-dollar to the more competitively priced petro-euro. Something which is not so good for the US market and economy; at least under this present crooked economic system run by the Federal Reserve. So are we about to see some of our brave sailors die for bushit reasoons and the maintenance of the private wealth of Bush and his circle of international freinds. Our blood for their comfort, and all of it will be under false pretenses. What a sad day is coming soon I suspect. I hope I'm wrong. Or I hope if enough people get turned on to this potential plan or any other false flag operation presently underway, we can all shed light on it and prevent it from occuring.

If this is true, it could be an example of freeway blogging at it's best.
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. U. S. S. Enterprise
FALSE FLAG ATTACK

or

. U. S. A. FLEET
False Flag Attack

It might not be able to stop it, but some more people might catch on.

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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron. ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower

Borrow trouble for yourself, if that's your nature, but don't lend it to your neighbors. ~ Rudyard Kiplin

I know the real answer. The Twin Towers were brought down with PROMIS software!

quack

WOW, you guys must be in a panic. I had no idea the 911 Truth Movement had reached the levels of having you creeps actually put together huge reports trying to counter a Truth Movement. It's kind of wierd for you to react by putting out trumped up reports considering most everyone I know has lot's of different theories about what happened on 911 and who might be responsible for the mass murder of 3000 US citizens and the only common denominator amongst the massive and Administration-intimaidating Truth Movement is that all of us simply have a lot of questions that we'd like answered from an independent investigation. Why aren't you pushing for an investigation if you are so confident with your theories. Truth be told, we can't be sure of any one theory until a proper investigation is opened. You and your other creepy friends trying to prevent an investigation into the mass murder which occured on 911 is sort of like a criminial syndacite trying to prevent a criminal case from reaching the courts. Everytime I see one of these anti-Truth posts I feel more and more certain that some small faction of our government is likely responsible for the 911 mass murder. My advice to you, continue throwing fuel on the Truth fire. It's not as though we are worried about the heat because we, like massive steel structures, won't melt and bend with a little heat, but we do appreciate your un-intended assistance.

By the way, on the Silverstein quote "pull it" which you say meant to pull firefighters from WTC 7 is an outright lie, there were no firefighters in the building, the building was empty. You creeps are going to destroy yourselves and I'm glad for it because you make our work easier. Also, consider what are the consequences of trying to obstruct a mass murder investigation, speaking to a lawyer might be time well spent. And when the shit hits the fan, do you think your bosses are going to stand and defend guys like you or will they start using you as fodder in trying to deflect the guilt?

Shermer uses anecdoctal info from a "filmmaker" to represent the views of 9/11 truth community.

And he misrepresents the arguments.

Standard techniques for him. His appearance on C-span recently was worse. At that presentation I caught him in straight out lies.

In this article he says all the contentions of the 9/11 skeptics rest upon the fallacy that "unexplained anomolies can undermine well-established theory."

Well, yes, anomolies have to be explained. That is the scientific method. If they are not, the theory has to be revised.

Shermer is a professional debunker who has no credibility except that he keeps getting published. I wonder why.

Yes, I agree. Does he have any pull? Is he interested in organization?

The flipside of this, of course, is... wait for it... wait for it... the inevitable horde of posters who will now question whether an ex-intelligence officer is giving his endorsement to Tarpley for some sort of alterior motive.

And the dance continues.

-- worth far more than whatever Robert Steele might be able to offer "inside" this movement -- being "outside," requisit impartiality is intact --

best to copy this review and send it all over the net to places like this http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/17908.html -- where Tarpley is mercilessly slammed, mainly it seems for his work with LaRouche -- as for that I say, "so what", Lyndon's followers may seem cultish, but he is brilliant and so is Tarpley -- moreover their musical taste is first rate, guys you could have dinner with -- anyway, want to have some impact, hit your adversaries' blogs and hit them hard -- hit the left gate keepers too -- copy this review and links everywhere around

And those who try to pre-empt any warning about it!

While I don't consider myself inevitable or a horde, I will take the bait.

I would question a few things--why does this guy have a Wikipedia entry? His number one ranking on Amazon reviews? That in itself is kind of funny--instant credibility, sort of kind of... but not really. And if this guy is legit, will he do more than "come out" on Amazon's review pages? Will he try to get some editorials published?

On Tarpley--what makes his analysis so great? Angel is next? Do we really think America's nuclear codes have been compromised? I honestly don't know his work at all, so something other than snark would be appreciated.

So yes, to at the very least (and maybe more) play devil's advocate, I would say let's not leap to any judgements, pro or con, but eye every bit of news that seems like it might be "too good to be true" with a skeptical eye.

Especially when people try to pre-emptively discourage you as simuvac just did here.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

Moreover, Einstein's major achievement is still being contested:

http://osiris.sunderland.ac.uk/webedit/allweb/news/Philosophy_of_Science...

>>>>> but to the point - "911 Synthetic Terror - Made in USA" has the potential to stimulate enough interest from journalists like Seymour Hersch, for esample, to blow the lid off the whole enterprise of false flag terror - immediately, the goal is to stop WWIII, ultimatley, as Tarpley repeats in all his lectures, "...to break this cynically leathal weapon before their faces and render it impotent!"

I can see why politicians put themselves in it, but who put Steele in it and why? How old is the wiki entry?

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i believe it is because he is a major player in the hacker community as he is a specialist in data security and is a proponent of open source intelligence.

His entry was created in November 2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_David_Steele&oldid=1400...

If you go here:
http://intellit.muskingum.edu/alpha_folder/S_folder/steeletoc.html

you can see he's published many, many articles. I don't find it so odd that he has an entry. He might be well known in niche circles.

Why is it that there's a chill running down my spine when I read this--and who do you suppose are his clients?

VERY interesting stuff! ;)

Welcome to OSS.NET. Since 1992, we have championed open source intelligence (OSINT), intelligence reform, and the creation of Smart Nations. Beginning in 2002 we are also championing a global intelligence grid that brings the seven tribes of intelligence (national, military, law enforcement, business, academic, NGO-media, and religious-clan-citizen) into effective relations with one another, in part through the creation of ISO standards for those elements of intelligence that are open, ethical, legal, and generic. We recognize Information Operations (IO) as our parent, and are now developing Information Peacekeeping (IP) as the counter-part to Information Warfare (IW). IO = IW + IP * OSINT.

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global intelligence grid is a precurser setup for the singularity

But for the sake of arguement, mabey tarpley's book has made him come around to this, and he will eventually see where they are going with GIG down the rabbit hole.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=209842906347732903

Essentially, what Tarpley offers is the greatest of the counter-narratives. I've said before that I think the creation of counter-narratives (as opposed to the deconstruction of the official narrative) is probably best avoided -- but if I had to make a movie out of one, it would definitely be Tarpley's. He's all about the shadow government, the incompetence and irrelevancy not only of Bush but even to a lesser extent of Cheney. (He says something along the lines of, Who would you trust to run a coup d'etat like this? An old drunk with three heart attacks and four pacemakers, his far-right ideologue wife constantly yapping in his ear? No.) I associate the phrase "Angel is Next" with him more than any other researcher. (I think that supposed telephone call could be one of the creepiest things ever in the history of cinema, if "Synthetic Terror: the Movie" was ever made. It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.)

Tarpley is a brilliant guy. He speaks at least four languages as far as I tell and did considerable research on the topic of false-flag terrorism in Europe earlier in his career.

Probably because of the historical context into which he can easily slot 9/11, he does a great job of explaining its (probable) dynamics in abstract terms. He defines "patsy," "mole," and "killer" and the relationships between them, and applies the concepts to what we know happened on 9/11 in a very compelling manner.

He worked for Lyndon LaRouche at one time, which has been one of the stumbling blocks in my growing admiration for the guy, but i don't think it's a basis on which to discredit him.

I also remember his book being advertised in a really tacky way, with the tagline like "The only FULL MIHOP something or other!!" as if they really really wanted to offer MIHOP believers something... I dunno--limited hangout maybe? A little TOO like a movie? Overwrought, i.e.? I remain cautiously skeptical but open to input!

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but the fact that Tarpley is trained in and rigorously adheres to standards of "classical" research and rhetoric does set his work apart - beyond that, whatever a publisher does to market a book, the author rarely has control - as I mentioned above, LaRouche may be dragging a cult around but that doesn't discredit either his or Tarpley's insightful work - what I'm finding curious in some parts of this thread is a pointed lack of forgiveness - you don't like what he says about Peak Oil or Maltheus, forget everything he says about anything - might as well forget everything Thomas Jefferson ever said - after all he kept slaves - face it, Tarpley's one of the sharpest minds and voices in this movement - copy this review all over the blogosphere!

It's true, and it's a big part of why Synthetic Terror is one of my favorite 9/11 books. Maybe my favorite.

And I'm forgiving, for crying out loud! You have no idea -- my friends have heard me say that I would like to bear Webster Tarpley's children. I'm perplexed by his take on Peak Oil and his fear of a Malthusian agenda, but that's in the context of great admiration for his work. My attitude is exactly the opposite of what you imply.

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I was trying to avoid suggesting too strongly that by comparison so much other work doesn't quite stand up next to Tarpley's rigor.

As for "...perplexed by his take on Peak Oil and his fear of a Malthusian agenda..." - so am I, yet I'll keep following him. He's stated that alternative energy is obviously essential, and that leaving what's left to fill petrochemical needs in durables is more compelling, but that the supply-demand pricing mechanisms have been artificially manipulated since the first oil crisis - the issue with Malthus seems a bit antiquarian, though I couldn't possibly argue it, yet I can't understand others rejecting his body of work based on that - his GHW Bush biography is so highly regarded and I've been pushing our local community progressive radio station to interview him. Unfortunately, they're mostly in the grip of the Chomsky/Barsamian, et al safe blow-back position and can't see that as essentially supporting the regime on 9/11.

As for the litmus-test rejections, to which I'm referring, they're mostly further down the thread -- I think we mostly agree -- all best -- jtg

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I was trying to avoid suggesting too strongly that by comparison so much other work doesn't quite stand up next to Tarpley's rigor.

As for "...perplexed by his take on Peak Oil and his fear of a Malthusian agenda..." - so am I, yet I'll keep following him. He's stated that alternative energy is obviously essential, and that leaving what's left to fill petrochemical needs in durables is more compelling, but that the supply-demand pricing mechanisms have been artificially manipulated since the first oil crisis - the issue with Malthus seems a bit antiquarian, though I couldn't possibly argue it, yet I can't understand others rejecting his body of work based on that - his GHW Bush biography is so highly regarded and I've been pushing our local community progressive radio station to interview him. Unfortunately, they're mostly in the grip of the Chomsky/Barsamian, et al safe blow-back position and can't see that as essentially supporting the regime on 9/11.

As for the litmus-test rejections, to which I'm referring, they're mostly further down the thread -- I think we completely agree -- all best -- jtg

I like it tremendously, BUT it needs to be understood as a counter-narrative that offers a lot of factual information on the patsy/mole/killer structure among other things, but is fundamentally conjecture. Reasoned conjecture, but conjecture nonetheless.

His central argument, that 9/11 was a coup d'etat carried out by rogue elements within the government and straddling the line between government and aspects of big industry, makes more sense to me than anything else I've heard -- but we don't really know. Also, it's not written in an overly dramatic style -- sorry if I gave that impression -- it's actually pretty dry and academic except when he lets himself go and talks major shit about Bush and Cheney.

It's online as a PDF document, but I don't have the link anymore.

Say, I wrote that tacky ad!
Any suggestions for improvement?
I want to run it again here at 911blogger. Limit is 300 characters.
Have you read the book?

The problem I have with this Tarpley viewpoint (and his biography of Bush Sr. is excellent so far in details on the Third Reich) is the implication that George W. and his band of neo-cons were somehow taken advantage of by the Israelis. Do you really think so? "Had him by the balls", i.e. "taken advantage of", implies a native unwillingness to do harm. Bush??!!! Don't make me laugh so hard.

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