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9/11 The Myth and the Reality: Dr. David Ray Griffin

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Submitted by Dem Bruce Lee Styles on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 3:43pm.

Composed of two powerful speeches given by the masterful Philosopher and Theologist Dr. David Ray Griffin at The Commonwealth Club in San Francisco (4/3/06) and at The Grand Lake Theater in Oakland (3/30/06), 9/11: The Myth and The Reality exposes the official story of 9/11 for what it truly is: a sacred myth.

Throughout this incredible video, enhanced with forceful images and video segments, Griffin details nine of the most commonly held myths and misconceptions about the events surrounding 9/11 and with logical precision proves the fallacies of each one.

Each speech is followed by an in-depth question & answer section featuring hard-hitting questions about 9/11 posed to one of the subject's foremost scholars.

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What More Do You Need

This is as clear as it gets for demanding an independent investigation.

Submitted by greenback (not verified) on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 5:29pm.

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wow, this guy is good for

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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 11/12/2006 - 2:47pm.

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Well, the content is very

Well, the content is very very good. The next step is to get a voice that gets people's attention to narrate it. Also, some people might prefer to have more examples so that they have a better understanding of some concepts. Fortunately, lots of people are helping out and putting things online.

In the future, I can see the Whitehouse saying that only cooks and conspiracy theorists would believe crazy people like this guy. This right after a poll comes out saying 95% of Americans belive 911 was an inside job. But if you were as full into dung as they were, you'd probably also lie lie lie through your teeth all the way up to the electric chair.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 11/14/2006 - 9:30am.

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His intent wasn't to

His intent wasn't to entertain you, but to inform you about 9/11. I'm surprised you can even go to sleep at night knowing that we have a sadist for a president who has his finger on the button. And in light of what he's already done, I wouldn't be surprised if he pressed it in the next 2 years.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 12/07/2006 - 2:04am.

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This is an edited version.

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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 12/11/2006 - 9:00pm.

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D. R. Griffin's best film

excellent production touches too...

The best film to give to someone older who is new to 9/11 Truth.

Submitted by altruist on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 6:06pm.

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We're being blamed...

For the October 22nd NFL threat. We were also recently blamed for the Minuteman Project outburst.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Submitted by Jon Gold on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 6:38pm.

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Truth be told...

On October 7th, "The head of the Islamabad-based Al-Quds Media Centre has received an audio message from a senior Taliban leader in which he asked Muslims living in the US to leave the country as soon as possible “because God’s punishment would fall on America in the month of Ramazan.”

If that was a 9/11 Truther, he or she probably made a "prediction" (like that's never happened before), and they took it out of context.

I could be wrong.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Submitted by Jon Gold on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 6:45pm.

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That sounds more like...

a prediction or sci-fi than a threat...

fuckin a' it's gonna get dicey.

Submitted by ruforealz on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:38pm.

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great complete lecture

i really liked that lecture. it covered almost every aspect of 9/11 truth which i really like. He definately covered some of the best evidence. A few little minor errors, nothing major.

The map for the flight path of AA 77 for both the final turn and the USA today map are innaccurate. We now have a more accurate final turn map, i think it's at 911 myths. Also, flight explorer has a better map, and flight 77 didn't actually go in a loop.

Also, for the video footage of the Pentagon. The citco gas station camera has been released, but you can't even tell what you're looking at, which kinda defeats the purpose of a video camera. Also, the hotel that the washington post article refers to is likely the double trees hotel, not the sharadon. But there are something like 85 tapes in total, and i guess 3 have been released.

Also, Griffen makes the remark that the government isn't very smart and makes mistakes like in Iraq. I feel like the Iraq war is going well in the eyes of the Neo-Cons. Their goal is to have permanent bases there and keep troops there indefinately. If the war went well, then haliburton can't keep making money and the "job would be done" so then troops could come home. So seeing how horrible things are over there, keeps the troops there and defense contractors making money.

-adam
http://www.truth911.net

Submitted by truth911.net on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 6:45pm.

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Doubletree Hotel should be released by 11/9/06

and yes, the goal is permanent presence, not victory, in Iraq. When will people get that?

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Submitted by DHS on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 7:00pm.

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yes, absolutely accurate regarding Iraq strategy, I believe.

Creating 'constructive chaos', as it were.....

Negroponte did not go there to sample the cuisine....

"There are none so hoplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free" (Goethe)..... a paraphrase from V: Cast aside the illusions. Only when you are finally hopeless can you truly be free.

Submitted by medicis on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 7:11pm.

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i second that, the Iraq

i second that, the Iraq strategy is going great for them. why the hell is Rumsfeld still employed? because hes doing exactly whats expected of him, thats why. and also because he outranks the president in the grand scheme of things. dirty career shadow government stooge that he is. Rummy,Cheney and Kissinger have always been 3 of the most public faces of the NWO/shadow government/parallel government, whatever you choose to call it. W is a puppet who got lucky and happens to have another member of the NWO as a father. he knows his place, and firing Rumsfeld isnt his decision to make,regardless of what this countries laws say.

Submitted by Chris on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 7:25pm.

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It's an older lecture dating

It's an older lecture dating from at least a year ago.

Submitted by Cornelius on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:51pm.

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14 military bases already

14 military bases already built in iraq, taking up the size of an average town in the US...yeah that says a lot about their permanent presence in iraq.

Slightely off topic but I wonder if they're doing the same here in america with the US press agencies

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. military acted legally when it hired a contractor to pay Iraqi news organizations to run pro-American stories, the Pentagon's inspector general has found.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=&storyid=2006-10-19T...

Submitted by geggy7 (not verified) on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 7:39pm.

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Waaaaaaait a second.

Is this the same Inspector General who found "that a review of records from the unit, known as Able Danger, found no evidence it had identified ringleader Mohamed Atta or any other terrorist who participated in the 2001 attacks" even though it's BLATANTLY obvious that they DID?

Is this the same Inspector General that said, "it had no evidence that senior Pentagon commanders intentionally provided false testimony to the Sept. 11 commission about the military’s actions on the morning of the 2001 terrorist attacks" and that, "the Defense Department’s initial inaccurate accounts could be attributed largely to poor record-keeping" even though it is BLATANTLY obvious that they DID lie?

Something tells me we need a new Inspector General at the Pentagon.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Submitted by Jon Gold on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:24pm.

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Incidentally...

That is a PERFECT example of what I think is the most powerful tool we have. Using their words against them.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Submitted by Jon Gold on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:42pm.

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Most powerful tool..

Aside from using our bodies.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Submitted by Jon Gold on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 9:14pm.

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Rollins kills it!(warning, profanity)

Rollins-"if they come for your freedom,you must not only resist,you must strike back with a vengeance that will stun them".

Henry Rollins-"freedom is under attack" (Warning Extreme Profanity)
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/191006_b_Rollins.htm

Submitted by Chris on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:24pm.

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Rage Againt The Machine(with a Giuliani cameo)

Sleep Now In the Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA3ksG-3APU

(is that Micheal Moore in the video? sure looks like him.)

Submitted by Chris on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:29pm.

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Yep. Michael Moore before

Yep. Michael Moore before he sold out to the DNC.

He used to do some good stuff, exposing abuses by corporations in a groundbreaking, often humorous way. Now he's just John Kerry's bitch.

Submitted by Danse on Fri, 10/20/2006 - 12:08am.

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Rage

Those guys really rocked!

It's really too bad they're not still around.

I could see them raging against 9/11 bullshit!

Submitted by kevin (not verified) on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 11:23pm.

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Well, Tom Morello's still

Well, Tom Morello's still around, haven't heard a peep out of him on 911. He does however have a cool website named Axisofjustice.org that covers a wide range of social issues. He's more of a commie type than Zach, who tends towards anarchism. Last I heard of Zach he was hanging out with the Zapatistas in Chiapas. He recorded a couple of solid tracks after Rage broke up, such as "March of Death" and "Center of the Storm". Rumor had it he was working with Trent Reznor of nine inch nails. Then he just dissapeared. I'm still waiting for Dead Prez and The Coup to take on 911; until then there's always immortal and Mos Def, among others.

Submitted by Danse on Fri, 10/20/2006 - 12:07am.

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holy crap, where did you

holy crap, where did you hear he was working with Trent Reznor? that would be great for me, 2 of my favorite bands. Zach was the main political force behind Rage, Morello is more of a social justice type. Audioslave is a joke compared to Rage. and yeah, Immortal Technique is the man, i wish he would hurry up on that new album.

Submitted by Chris on Fri, 10/20/2006 - 9:32am.

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i have this on my myspace page

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Submitted by DHS on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 11:51pm.

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Dr. David Ray Griffin

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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Submitted by Jon Gold on Thu, 10/19/2006 - 8:47pm.

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is it possible to dl a mp3

is it possible to dl a mp3 of this anywhere?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/20/2006 - 2:59pm.

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mp3 download of one of these

mp3 download of one of these presentations:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/1262

use the 'search' at the top of the page.. you'll pull up more audio, etc. on this subject with a quick search of 'griffin the myth and the reality'.

Submitted by dz on Fri, 10/20/2006 - 3:03pm.

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i meant mp3 of both

i meant mp3 of both presentations as the video. i rip the video off google and extract the audio.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 10/20/2006 - 10:04pm.

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RAY GRIFFINS LECTURE, ONE HOUR 38 MINUTES:

LISTENING TO RAY GRIFFIN IS ABOUT AS SCAREY AS LISTENING TO MY OWN GRANDFATHER TELL STORIES WITH HAPPY ENDINGS DURING A FAMILY GET TOGETHER ON THE PORCH DURING A CALM COOL SUMMER RAIN.
THIS IS THE BEST LECTURE IVE SEEN, AND IVE SEEN HUNDRED HOURS OF THIS STUFF,
HE IS SO EASY TO LISTEN TO.
IF YOURE TRYING TO AWAKEN YOUR FRIENDS, LET THEM LISTEN TO RAY GRIFFIN,
HE DOES NOT USE FEAR, HE DOES NOT USE PERSONAL OPINION, HE DOES NOT USE POLITICS. HE DOESNT TALK ABOUT BUSH AS A POLITICAL OPPONENT, HE SIMPLY DISCUSSES THE VERY THINGS THAT ALL OF US ARE ASKING, WHERE IS ALL THIS HEADING, HOW DID THIS MESS COME ABOUT, AND WHAT IS THE TRUTH, WHAT MAKES SENSE, HE DOES SO IN A PEACEFUL CALM WARM FREINDLY MANNER. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ALEXJONES, (prisonplanet.com) MIGHT AGREE, ALEX JONES IS VERY DIFFICULT IN MY OPIONION TO LISTEN TO, SIMPLY AND SOLEY BECAUSE HIS VOICE IS SO ABRASIVE, HE INDEED SOUNDS LIKE RUSH LIMBAUGH... NOT IN HIS IDEAS, BUT IN THE SIMPLE MANNER OF HIS AGRESSIVE SPEECH, HE MADE ME FEEL LIKE I WAS BEING YELLED AT FOR TWO HOURS. I DONT LET MY OWN MOTHER YELL AT ME, WHY WOULD I WANT TO LISTEN TO ALEX JONES. (he really does sound like rush limbaugh, the first time i heard him i walked into a friends house while she was listening to alex jones, and off the bat i asked her, 'geze, why are you listening to rush limbaugh, he's such a big fat liar"...

RAY GRIFFIN IS THE UN-ALEX JONES.
FOR THE RECORD, I LOVE ALEX JONES. I JUST WISH HE'D TAKE SOME OF HIS MONEY TO A PUBLIC SPEEKING TEACHER AND TONE IT DOWN A BIT, HIS VOICE OVERSHADOWS THE VITAL CRITICAL ESSENSE OF HIS MESSAGE.
THANKS RAY,
PLEASE, TAKE CARE OF YOUR SELF!
my grandparents and parents (all dutiful military service people) no longer have to spin in their graves, now that you're doing the kind of work youre doing.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 10/21/2006 - 8:24pm.

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