The Case Against the Mossad and Israel: Wolfowitz, Silverstein and the Dancing Israelis
Although the Mossad's warnings regarding 9/11 appear to exonerate it, that is not the case. Former Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky in his two excellent books By Way of Deception and The Other Side of Deception demonstrates that the Mossad often uses useless warnings as a way of making themselves look innocent when in fact the opposite is true:
http://www.marwenmedia.com/articles_images/BookReview.html
"Admony, then the head of Mossad, decided they would simply give the Americans the usual general warning, a vague notice that they had reason to believe someone might be planning an operation against them. But this was so general and so commonplace, it was like sending a weather report; unlikely to raise any particular alarm or prompt increased security precautions. In the six months following receipt of this information, for example, there were more than 100 general warnings of car-bomb attacks. One more would not heighten US concerns or surveillance."
"Admony, in refusing to give the Americans specific information on the truck, said, "No, we're not going to protect the Americans. They're a big country. Send only the regular information."
Once one understands the methodology of the Mossad and its management of false flag attacks - as well as the massive involvement of the US - Israeli axis in manufacturing the "War on Terror" - to accept the idea that the Mossad is innocent because it gave weak and useless warnings to its partner in crime the CIA becomes absurd.
Here's the article from the Jerusalem Post about the Mossad warnings:
Note that they gave no targets, fingered bin Laden and *implicated Iraq,* and we all know how involved Iraq was in 9/11...
http://prisonplanet.com/mossad_warned_cia_of_attacks.html
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"Mossad warned CIA of attacks - report By Douglas Davis
LONDON (September 17) - Mossad officials traveled to Washington last month to warn the CIA and the FBI that a cell of up to 200 terrorists was planning a major operation, according to a report in the Sunday Telegraph here yesterday.
The paper said the Israeli officials specifically warned their counterparts in Washington that "large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent." They offered no specific information about targets, but they did link the plot to Afghanistan-based terrorist Osama bin Laden, and they told the Americans there were "strong grounds" for suspecting Iraqi involvement.
A US administration official told the paper that it was "quite credible" that the CIA did not heed the Mossad warning: "It has a history of being over-cautious about Israeli information." But the official noted that "if this is true, then the refusal to take it seriously will mean heads will roll.""
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Furthermore, according to Der Speigel, Mossad handed over a list of 19 terrorist suspects. We know that the "19 terrorists" are not on the passenger manifests and that the FBI has acknowledged that several of them are still alive while refusing to change the official list of suspects.
Did the Mossad know the official story was going to include 19 hjacker patsies? It's a pretty eerie coincidence I'd say.
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/Chronicles/August2003/0803CIA.html
"While the Israelis were closely observing Atta and his friends, they did not inform the U.S. government what they were up to until August 2001: Der Spiegel reported (October 1, 2002) that they handed over a list of 19 terrorist suspects, with at least four of the hijackers on it, "a few weeks before" September 11, but the federal government says that the warning was for attacks "outside the United States.""
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2002/derspiegel100102.html http://www.antiwar.com/article.php?articleid=2305
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Paul Wolfowitz and Doug Feith, both well-known Israeli partisans who have even been investigated for espionage on behalf of Israel, were both effectively *in command* of the Defense department on 9/11. If Mossad had wanted to warn America, it would have warned them. And yet, no action on 9/11 from DoD. Nothing. A giant 757 or whatever hit the Pentagon nearly an hour and a half after the first hijacking was known to be underway and neither fighter aircraft nor anti-aircraft missile batteries performed.
Just look at the way Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle and Niger Uranium hoaxer Michael Ledeen have been caught working for Israel throughout history:
http://www.counterpunch.org/green02282004.html
"In 1978, [Wolfowitz] was investigated for providing a classified document on the proposed sale of U.S. weapons to an Arab government, to an Israel Government official, through an AIPAC intermediary. An inquiry was launched and dropped, however, and Wolfowitz continued to work at ACDA until 1980...
...But Feith was fired because he'd been the object of an inquiry into whether he'd provided classified material to an official of the Israeli Embassy in Washington. The FBI had opened the inquiry...
... Perle's second brush with the law occurred a year later in 1970. An FBI wiretap authorized for the Israeli Embassy picked up Perle discussing with an Embassy official classified information which he said had been supplied to him by a staff member on the National Security Council. An NSC/FBI investigation was launched to identify the staff member...
...In 1983, on the recommendation of Richard Perle, Ledeen was hired at the Department of Defense as a consultant on terrorism. His immediate supervisor was the Principle Assistant Secretary for International Security Affairs, Noel Koch. Early in their work together, Koch noticed with concern Ledeen's habit of stopping by in his (Koch's) outer office to read classified materials. When the two of them took a trip to Italy, Koch learned from the CIA station there that when Ledeen had lived in Rome previously, as correspondent for The New Republic, he'd been carried in Agency files as an agent of influence of a foreign government: Israel..."
A photo of Wolfowitz, Feith, Dov Zakheim and Israeli Chief of Defense Shaul Mofaz four months after 9/11 is here:
http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Jan2002/020118-D-9880W-043.html
More information on Iran Contra criminal and Israeli agent Michael Ledeen can be found here:
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7681 http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/articles/060606fege02 http://physics911.net/nuclearfalseflag.htm
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My friends, if the Mossad had truly warned America, and the Mossad's friends in America had intended to protect us, we would never have been attacked.
It's that simple.
CIA/Mossad/AEI asset and right wing Israeli war hawk Benjamin Netanyahu talks weekly with Larry Silverstein: http://tinyurl.com/qsvjj
And, although Mossad met with the CIA on August 23rd, 2001 to give warnings, they didn't tell the CIA what the targets were. And here's the clincher:
*They clearly knew what the targets were because less than three weeks later, Israeli agents were set up at the WTC ahead of time filming and celebrating.*
More information on the involvement of Silverstein and Netanyahu, along with the Republican Jewish Coalition can be found here:
http://www.rense.com/general73/is911.htm http://tinyurl.com/qsvjj
Instead of crying at the sight of the WTC in flames, the Mossad agents were laughing and celebrating.
If you were a loyal, religious Mossad agent who had been unable to prevent an attack on an ally, would you be laughing and celebrating, taking photos of yourself with a lighter positioned underneath the image of the WTC towers and box cutters in your van?
http://www.venusproject.com/911/did_israel_sacrifice_wtc.html http://waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm
I wouldn't. But if your motto is By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War, perhaps you would consider it:
http://freemasonrywatch.org/libya.html
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Very interesting.
Like any other intelligence agency, the MOSSAD should be scrutinized for any and all connections regarding the events of 9/11.
yeah, but sadly its
yeah, but sadly its regularly downplayed by most. this is unfortunate. i guess it doesnt help that we have anti-semites from shankradio and shit coming by here and trying to associate themselves with 9/11. i understand wanting to distance yourself from people like that, but even Loose Change failed to mention Israel.
some ppl make it seem so
some ppl make it seem so hard to seperate questioning israel from blaming things on the 'jews'.. but, then again, there is a rather large number of ppl who have decided to bitch at me for deleting their truely bigotted statements so im not surprised that some avoid it altogether..
i think at this point the majority of the world knows that israel and the US are working together in this WOT, but heaven forbid we actually talk about that! :)
Israel is a real problem.
not just false flags and being involved in 9/11 and even having spys in the U.S., but this is a real problem:
The Israel Lobby
John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
not talking about Israels grip on our congress and media isnt going to help us. it is a very real problem. not jews, the Israeli leadership in the government and their lobby.
and that Mearcheimer/Walt
and that Mearsheimer/Walt paper is tame. they were severely attacked in the MSM for it, and the "alternative" media didnt exactly help them out. just imagine if they went as far as they could have by mentioning things like MOSSAD involvement in 9/11 etc. Larry Franklin aint the half of it.......
Israeli gov't & U.S. gov't have been big partners in crime...
for a very, very long time!!! Don't be afraid to talk about it!
U.S. military/industrial complex loves Israel's endless war...
The U.S. military/industrial complex loves Israel's endless war & fear mongering of "Arab terrorists."
Absolutely - investigate
Absolutely - investigate them all. At the same time, it is hard to deny that those who keep pushing the "Mossad / Israeli / Zionist" button NEVER seem to to worry about the history of the WASP cartel in history (I refer you to the "Secret War Against the Jews" by Lofton) in setting up patsies to take the heat when their pureblood Aryan schemes go awry. The basis for this technique is simple, analogous to the use of Condi-Liar Rice and Colin Powell by the Bush Regime demonstrate: no one in their right mind would presume this represents global support for Bushiterl from the Afro-American community.
In a similar vein, the use of traitors and criminals such as Wolfowitz & Perl does not demonstrate a "Zionist" conspiracy (not that there is anything wrong with the re-establishment of the State of Israel vis-a-vis the creation of the United States), but the fact that every group has it's bad apples, whether it be Jews, Catholics, Muslims or Germans, Italians, Russians, and so on.
If we use a historical focus, it will prevent us from demonizing the State of Israel vs. the U.K. in their role in supporting Bush. In reality, Israelis were much more threatened by Saddam than Americans, and it is likely they were misled by the promise of removing him. But this does not argue that in fact they drove George Bush and his evangelical Christian party into this war.
Finally, if we use a historical focus, we will recognize that the close to 100,000,000 (yes, that is 100 MILLION) died in wars in the last century due to wars begun by European Christian nations, and that in 1938 the future Pope Pius XII negotiated a Concordat with Hitler than was in force throughout WWII, and that in fact the throngs who cheered Adolf Hitler in Nuremberg were a mixture of good, decent, church-going Protestants and Catholics.
Yup.
In my opinion, there is no way that the US intelligence services knew any less than MOSSAD, at any point during the staging of 9/11.
If MOSSAD was allowed to pull more strings than has been revealed so far, it was for scapegoating purposes later on.
This also possibly explains Pakistan. Gen. Ahmad was encouraged to get involved with 9/11 for later fingering purposes, possibly. (Doesn't mean it shouldn't be investigated, doesn't mean "Press for Truth" is any less valuable.)
If things get out of hand, too much truth busts out, dangle a foreign intel shop out there, complete with "proof".
Israel
Shalom - Your comments are on time - but please read Schoenman, David Brenner, and others who have established the Nazi-Zionist ALLIANCE (without exageration) in order to understand the true role of Zionism and its state in the BETRAYAL of the Jewish people.
Just like MANY Americans
Just like MANY Americans loathe Rumsfeld and the Pentagon, the same is true in Israel. It is my opinion that most moral Jews are Not Zionists, but still they love their country Israel. I'm sure Mossad was involved in 9/11, and in the same breath that we blame Israel for 9/11, let's also blame Britian and USA. They are all in bed together, trying to take over the world.
If Jews are Nazis, What are You ?
Even taken at face value, the attacks of Schoenman are revealing. He actually cites decisions by the Israeli Supreme Court in condemning Nazi collaborators in trying to prove that the State of Israel is intrinsically. EVIL. Pretty paraxodical, isn't it?
Even taken at face value, if we assume that Zionist leaders felt the creation of Israel trumped saving victims of the Holocaust that was being undertaken by the Protestant/Catholic populations of Germany and Italy, with the formal collusion of the Vatican, I argue this is a lesser crime than those being actively pursued by these countries. Therefore, if we are looking to assign moral blame, let us FIRST start with the religion and cultures of the PERPETRATORS of the Holocaust. Let us remember that the crimes commited by these Christian nations were NOT confined to the secret skulduggery of their LEADERS, but were being performed with the enthusiastic participation of the rank and file of their CITIZENS, such as the good German Protestant/Christians whol fllooded the Nazi rallies, and wore out their throats cheering for Hitler.
Even if the charges against any or all of these Zionist leaders are true, looking at the history of persecution by Christain nations against Jews and Moslems over thousands of years (Crusades, Inquisition, and Holocaust), one cannot really judge with certainty what could have occured in the post WWII era if Israel did not exist. If history is ANY GUIDE at all, it seems HIGHLY LIKELY that the Jews who remained after WWII would be sitting ducks again. Let us wonder how Moslems or Christians would respond after WWII if FULLY 1/3 OF THEIR ENTIRE POPULATION had been incinerated while the strongest nations in the world DID NOTHING ? Do you really believe that if a handful of Jewish leaders had pushed harder, they could have stopped Hitler from his programs ? Regardless of what this handful of Jewish leaders did or did not do, why did the "civilized" countries of the US and UK refuse to bomb the railway lines leading to the extermination camps ?
Arguments like this are very beguiling and convenient, because they seem to absolve the REAL PERPETRATORS of the Holocaust, their religions and their countries, and focus instead on the IMPERFECTIONS IN THE RESPONSE OF THE VICTIMS. Once such arguments are stripped of their cover, the truth becomes obvious: the real NAZIs are Schoenman and his running dogs.
Mossad
Sure the Mossad wer involved in 9/11. The three governments that gained the most from the attacks were Israel, The United States and The U.K. You can bet the house the Mossad was involved along with our CIA and the Britt's MI6. Saying someone is anti-semetic is a cop-out. The whole purpose of the 9/11 truth movement is to discover the truth about what happened and who was behind it. We must follow the truth where ever it leads.
Random Zionism stuff
Yes Martha Zionism is real, Zionist Organization of America
No Martha all Jews aren't Zionists, True Torah Jews Against Zionism
Some Jews are ethnically Semitic people, but Arabs are Semites too, Wikipedia: Semite. So I reckon Zionists, that supremely racist, imperialist political movement with their MO based on systematic secrecy and deception, are indeed anti-Semites, given their obvious Arab Holocaust agenda.
The awful truth about "anti-Semitism", Here is the definition of Anti-Semitism from the lips of a Jew: “Anti-Semitism does NOT signify opposition to Semitism. THERE IS NO SUCH THING. It is an expression we use effectively as a SMEARWORD, used to brand anyone who brings criticism against us.” Harold W. Rosenthal (Jewish), administrative assistant for then-U.S. Senator Jacob K. Javits (Jewish) of New York, in an interview with American Christian magazine editor, Walter White. continue reading...
As to 9/11 truth, rabid anti-Zionist Daryll Bradford Smith seems to have given the thumbs up to "9/11 Mysteries". I'm not sure what to make of that, because I haven't watched 9/11 Mysteries, and DBS/Hufschmid seem to create more division in the movement than I'd prefer...
DBS and Hufschmid are over-excited about Zionism but not bigots
and this is key, because to smear them because they are convinced that Zionists are very powerful does not do justice to the fact that Zionists do indeed have a great deal of power. They use terms that people find offensive, like crypto-Jew (I for one think it crosses a line) but they do so to make a point--that Zionists are often very deceitful. Their focus on Zionists is similar to leftists focus on "right-wing christians". It does smack of scapegoating because it narrows the focus to what some perceive to be a monolithic group including lots of innocent folks. If you read Hufschmid though, nowhere does he spew hatred or defame people. DBS I don't follow as closely but Hufschmid is clearly a sensitive guy and while he enjoys shocking people a bit much, his presence in the movement has been key and we should not allow him to be misrepresented. Yes he questions the moon landing and the EXTENT (not the fact) of the Holocaust. In fact many legitimate issues exist with regard to the numbers of people killed and the nature of their deaths, but Hufschmid is not a bigot to point those out, in fact a number of Jewish folk have as well. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9176742040462080597&q=david+cole
What Hufschmid and DBS lack is the sensitivity to the feelings and psyches of perfectly innocent Jewish poepple who have never conspired or intentionally deceived anyone. Given that there has been a history of persecution directed against Jews (and Zionists are not without blame in that, at least in modern history) anyone who treads the difficult path of truth about Israel and the holocaust is wise to be very clear about who exactly one is accusing of what, and where they stand on the issue of the mass of people who are potential victims of ignorant people seeking revenge blindly. This is as important with Jews as it is with African Americans, Muslims, or any other group that ignorant poeple may direct their hatred towards. That is beginning to include whistleblowers and truthseekers, so we should all keep in mind that when we discuss politics we must separate, explicitly and vocally, the people from the powerful, the proles from the perps, etc. I for one am not a critic of Zionism because I dislike Jews. In fact I think it is shameful that Zionists play the games they do in fomenting discord between Jews and non-Jews in order to advance their agenda in a suspiciously symbiotic and similar manner with neo-Nazis. We have to get beyond this hatred on ALL SIDES and focus on our common hopes and needs as we sort through the history of lies of the elites. Only this way can we create the world we all say we want. In the end, we're all stuck with each other. We CAN work it out, but we need to combine hard honesty with true good will.
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
great blog by trhe way
great blog by the way Leland.
WTC & Tritium
The WTC site should be re-named:
"The Larry Silverstein Memorial Bomb Crater"
http://askpolly.com/nyc_2002/dec-30-2002/WTC/NYCWorldTradeCenterarea/ima...
http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1678&context=l...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dial-a-yield
Memorial? He hasn't faked his death yet...
And when we talk about Israel and 9/11, let's not forget the censored Fox News report about the Israeli spy ring. http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZOS8mqMX2ok
The other thing to remember is that the real power in the world is not wielded by people or politicians but by those who control money, i.e. banks. Notice that when Steven Jones accused the international banking cartel of conspiracy he was immediately accused of anti-semitism. That is a classic example of "methinks thou dost protest too much" No one said Jews. He said BANKERS. If ADL types are the ones associating all Jews with a criminal conspiracy (going back centuries) of bankers because a few of them happen to be Jewish, who exactly is defaming Jews?
Finally, the Zionist state of Israel has nothing whatever to do with the historical Israel. In fact religious Jews originally almost unanimously considered the Zionist project a blasphemy because it was suppsed that GOD and not political machinations that was to deliver them to their promised land. Zionists are just international european hucksters who have been up to no good since the end of the 19th century. Moreover most Jews in Israel are Ashkenazi, not Sephardic (the true Semites,) i.e. descendants of converts to Judaism (the Khazars, an Asiatic people.) It's amazing how many people don't understand these simple issues, except that it's not because who would they learn them from?
Yes, the U.S. was also founded as a colony of Europeans through the theft of land, so we should not be too sanctimonious in our criticism. The problem is that all that happened hundreds of years ago and the mistake was repeated only about 60 years ago in the case of Israel. And to this day it can be called nothing but a failure and a problem.
Civilization as we know it will be destroyed if we do not learn to evolve past tribalism and the fake tribalism of nationality. It is these traditional and artificial divisions that are exploited by those without god and country--the worshippers of wealth and power--to manipulate us, dividing and conquering and scorching the earth as they go.
The solution at this point is to:
a) expose the truth about EVERYTHING regardless of who might come out looking bad or how absurd it may seem.
b) do so in a spirit of reconciliation and forgiveness and commitment to ensure a better life for all peoples including compromises where appropriate and hard lines where necessary.
c) reform the global economic system to preclude the amassing of personal fortunes that rival those of legitimate governments and prevent the mass exploitation of workers and the earth, and work to ensure basic standards of living for all.
d) promote and preserve real liberty through, for example, the elimination of victimless crimes that serve only to justify incarceration industries, the development and preservation of free modes of communication, and using positive methods to encourage liberalization of traditional modes of oppression.
For starters. We also need artists and musicians and lovers to flourish and make life as beautiful as possible.
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
Rental Mailbox Neo-Crazies Block Ahmadinejad’s Speech!
http://gaelicstarover.blogspot.com/2006/09/rental-mailbox-neo-crazies-bl...
The usual from the evil conspiradroids..
I see all the Jew-haters are here - in their guise as conspiracy mouth-breathers. How about some cartoons with hook noses to make your little fantasy complete?
I see the "criticize Zionism" = "antiSemitism" fraud is here...
Are all Jews "Zionist fanatics"? Are all Jews "Mossad?" Are all Jews above all criticism?
I have no obligation to support Zionists, the Mossad, nor Israel, and I don’t.
I need to support Silverstein because he's a Jew???
I need to support Silverstein because he's a Jew???
Why don't you just "pull-it" and watch the building collapse!
Oh, but it's fine to bear false witness against Muslims???
"Islamo fascists" is legitimate speech, but Israel is beyond any & all reproach?
Caveman Osama & his 19 flunkies pulled off 9/11, and they did it because they are hate our freedoms?
Get lost!!!
cartoons with hook noses?
Try the cartoon version of the 9/11 Commission report falsely accusing Arab Muslims of mass murder. THAT is shocking to the conscience--NOT criticism of a morally bankrupt regime like the one controlling Palestine. Truly gross hypocrisy and dishonesty on your part, Smasher.
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
This topic is counterproductive
This is worse than the " no planes" argument, it makes you all look like loonies.
If the Israelis did have a role in 911 it was at the behest of the US, they wouldn't have done
it on their own.
Foolish, counterproductive tangents like this should be studiously avoided.
I know this isn't relevant
I know this isn't relevant to this discussion, but can someone try posting anything 9/11 Truth related on http://www.infoshop.org (go to the news section, and click on "post comment" after a headlined article and see how long your comment will last before it gets censored. Is anyone aware that Infoshop censors anything and everything related to 9/11 Truth? I wrote an article about this for Falseflagnews after the webmaster of that site requested me to, but he hasn't posted it on his site (as promised) and refuses to return any of my emails. What the fuck is all this?
I'll tell ya what the fuck it is
It's Chuck O, "anarchist" gatekeeper at work.
A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm".
Israel's "Clean Break" + PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" = 9/11?
http://www.911blogger.com/node/2617
Take away the right to say "fuck" and you take away the right to say "fuck the government." -Lenny Bruce
The five dancing Israelis
"Our purpose was to document the event."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcON2XbFR3I
9/11 Suspects Hiding in Israel
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-Israel-harbors-911-suspects.html
Take away the right to say "fuck" and you take away the right to say "fuck the government." -Lenny Bruce
passenger manifests
Correction: It is not at an established that the 19 alleged hijackers were not on the passenger manifests. No definitive list of passengers based on check-in lists or boarding passes at the gate has ever been released by the airlines or the government. The lists published by media such as CNN do not constitute anything official and may omit names for reasons of "sensitivity" or fear of litigation.
Furthermore, the report that Israel provided 19 names (you should add, according to Die Zeit, including the four alleged ringleaders: Atta, Shehhi, Alhazmi and Almidhar - same four names supposedly dug up by Able Danger) seems to contradict the idea that the warning was non-specific. The logic that nations issuing warnings are implicated applies equally to Russia, Jordan and the UK.
"Dancing" is hearsay and metaphorical (the actual reports have them looking happy) and designed to inflame.
No one wants to let off the Mossad - just be honest about the available facts. False-flag is not exclusive to Israeli operations. Every secret service has engaged in such attacks in the past. They are a standard. The "Art Students" spy ring looks awfully thin compared to all the evidence that the US military was stood down from the top. Wolfowitz and Feith were not in charge of air defense response or anything operational on 9/11.* That would be Bush, Rumsfeld, Shelton/Myers, Winfield/Leidig (NMCC), Eberhard (NORAD), Mies (wargames) and on the civilian side Sliney (FAA), as well as Cheney and Clarke in the White House. Is it perhaps too convenenient to prefer to blame a foreign enemy, and thus achieve distance from the reality of what an inside job really means - American elites.
(* And since the Art Students at most were picking up patsies in the US that had already been under surveillance by CIA in Germany, it would seem to be a cooperative, Echelon-style venture.)
they weren't just dancing
not only were they photographing themselves flicking their lighters in front of the towers, they also told the arresting police officer that "the Palestinians are your problem".
Sorry Anonymous, I know you're appealing for fairness and that is certainly warranted and wise, but I think you're downplaying the role of Israeli agents in the U.S. before and during 9/11. Even IF they had the blessing of SOMEone in the USG, that just means they helped an American commit treason, and well, that just isn't what friends or allies do.
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"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
Israelis Were Literally Jumping Up and Down
Thanks for this detailed comment. I was not aware that the passenger manifests we have are not official.
The Mossad's warning *was* non-specific regarding targets, and less than three weeks later, Mossad agents were filming at the target. That's criminal.
That the Israelis were dancing is not hearsay. Police reports describe them jumping up and down and high-fiving. Look at the Wayne Madsen piece:
http://waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm
and the original report for Scotlands's Sunday Herald:
http://www.venusproject.com/911/did_israel_sacrifice_wtc.html
"Police Chief John Schmidig said: "We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side. Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down.""
No other nation had several instances where their own agents were caught surveilling the patsies and documenting and celebrating the first attack.
Wolfowitz and Feith were number 2 and 3 at the Pentagon. Wolfowitz was Deputy Director, Feith was in charge of policy and "special plans." (The translated name of the Mossad is the Foundation for Intelligence and *Special Tasks*) They had to be aware of or responsible for the stand-down policy. The military takes orders from the DoD.
Look at the new document from the MacDill AFB whistleblower showing how NORAD was taken out from under the command of the military on 9/11 and given to Cheney, long an Israeli partisan:
http://www.v911t.org/SergeantLauroChavez.php
I do not have any problem implicating American elites, but as the Israeli newspaper Haaretz said:
"The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history."
Regarding the surveillance of the patsies, the CIA/FBI and/or Able Danger teams were also under surveillance. Some of them complained of being constantly monitored by Israeli intelligence.
Atta and others were trained at US training facilities, it is clear that US covert operators were involved in that part of the operation as well.
I am half Russian Jewish by blood, although not a "believer," the other half Anglo Christian again not a "believer." I consider it particularly important to be vigilant about the criminal deeds of my people, especially because we are so sheltered in the mainstream media. If we all keep our own houses clean, there will be peace.
I'll start by discussing the Israeli and Zionist aspect, work around to describe what I believe to be the relationship between Zionism/Judaism and the Anglo-European establishment and then posit a transhuman agency without absolving its representatives. As my friend Greg Zeigler - one of the intel agents on the http://patriotsquestion911.com website - likes to say: "No one owns a scam."
I believe that when we start unraveling 9/11 we will find that 9/11 was conceived, designed and implemented largely by Israeli partisans in and out of the US, just as the War in Iraq was. Ostrovsky points out in his books that Iraq was an Israeli target for regime change since the eighties. Mossad's warning to CIA implicating Iraq strikes me as deeply suspicious.
Although all religions, nationalities and races are involved, and that certainly includes the Euroelite, the global New World Order agenda for which 9/11 has done so much has also occupied a special place of importance in Jewish and Israeli history.
It is still taboo to discuss the financing of Lenin and Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) by Jacob Schiff, Max Warburg and the Rothschilds.
People's jaws drop to the floor when you show them Winston Churchill's article from 1920 fingering "International Jews" for Bolshevism.
http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/siteinfo/newsround/zvb/zvb1.html
And yet it was common knowledge at the time. In fact, the American Hebrew of Sept 10, 1920 openly acknowledges the Jewish leadership of Bolshevism, and even takes credit for capitalism and banking:
"Out of the economic chaos, the discontent of the Jew evolved organised capital with its working instrumentality, the banking system...One of the impressive phenomena of this time is the revolt of the Jew against the Frankenstein which his own mind conceived and his own hand fashioned...That achievement (the Russian Bolshevik Revolution), destined to figure in history as the overshadowing result of the World War, was largely the outcome of Jewish thinking, of Jewish discontent, of Jewish effort to reconstruct..."
"What Jewish idealism and Jewish discontent have so powerfully contributed to accomplish in Russia, the same historic qualities of the Jewish mind and heart are tending to promote in other countries..."
It is still taboo to discuss the Rothschild financing of the State of Israel. It is still taboo to discuss the hosting of Bilderberg get togethers at the Rothschild estate.
It is still taboo to discuss the Masonic pyramid on top of the Israeli Supreme Court:
http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/53NWO/58Symbology/58_01supremecourt....
or the fact that the building was entirely financed by Edmond de Rothschild:
http://www.abidemiracles.com/555701.htm
or to mention the Look Magazine article from 1962 wherein David Ben Gurion forecasts a world judged from Jerusalem:
"The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: the Cold War will be a thing of the past. ...gradual democratization of the Soviet Union...transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy. Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a Socialist and democratic regime...all other continents will become united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international police force...In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the scene of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah."
http://mothermedia.org/bengurionlookmagazine.jpg
People are totally unaware that the obscure Masonic philosophy known as British Israelism holds that the British, and in particular the royals, are a tribe of Israel.
The banking elite of the world, Jewish and Christian, has completely intermarried such that there is no longer any real difference. And yet, they still operate on behalf or in support of the delusional notion of a Chosen People, the "Jewish" State of Israel, and so on:
"According to L.G. Pine, the Editor of Burke's Peerage, Jews "have made themselves so closely connected with the British peerage that the two classes are unlikely to suffer loss which is not mutual. So closely linked are the Jews and the lords that a blow against the Jews in this country would not be possible without injuring the aristocracy also." (Tales of the British Aristocracy 1957, p.219.)"
See my friend and fellow Jew Henry Makow's work on the subject:
The "Jewish" Conspiracy is British Imperialism
http://www.savethemales.ca/000447.html
and
Is the New World Order Jewish?
http://www.savethemales.ca/000808.html
Henry argues that the Jews have been victims of the banker elites. But the greatest of them all, the Rothschilds, are Jewish. What does this mean?
Jewish elites, like the Anglo-American elite, are criminals who have succumbed to the devil's bargain: power over love. It appears the elite themself are being manipulated by a transhuman evil force that David Ray Griffin addressed in his talk here in Santa Fe, NM entitled 911 and Demonic Consciousness.
This transhuman force appears to have seized upon the Armageddon myth as a vehicle for manipulating both Christian and Jewish criminal elites into creating a "final conflict" which will either successfully enslave humanity, destroy earth or fail, God willing.
All this talk of War with Iran appears to be part of the plan:
http://thinkprogress.org/col-sam-gardiner-on-cnn-91806/
After all, although Anglos might be manipulating Jews and Jews manipulating Anglos, Lucifer is running that show, laughing as his puppets play for position, dividing and conquering them one by one.
My people have sinned, Russian Jew and Anglo Christian alike. Elite criminals have deceived us, it's true, but we must now take responsibility for our acquiescense and ignorance and intervene - forcefully but mercifully - before Lucifer gets any closer to victory.
leland.lehrman@gmail.com
(505) 982-3609
www.mothermedia.org
But what about
But what about FalseFlagNews? Daniel from that site asked me to write up an article...I did, and now he ignores me.
Are you the same anon that was talking about infoshop?
If so, just post the article here... it will get around, trust me.
By the way, if you wrote an article about infoshop you might want to include the fact that he handed over his users info to the FBI, just for the asking.
Fine anarchist, that Chuck.
Case Against 911Blogger: Starting Fires With Trash
Those commenting on this topic that this website imight consider if it is a little bitt inflammatory of 911blogger to post a blog with the headline
"The Case Against the Mossad and Israel: Wolfowitz, Silverstein and the Dancing Israelis"
Of course, those who have postions pro and con are free to comment to this leading subject.
Perhaps it would be fairer if one could post blog topics such as:
"How the Vatican's Support of Hitler Coincided with Prescott Bush's Business During WWII"
"How the AngloSaxon pureblood Aryan Alliance Planned 9/11"
"The History of Genocidal Wars by Catholic/Protestant Nations During the Last 100 Wars"
and
"How I Pretended to Be An Anti-Zionist Because I Can't be A KKK Anti-Semite Like Daddy and Grandpa"
stop it. just stop it. every
stop it. just stop it. every time MOSSAD or Israel is mentioned in any way, here comes Shalom to defend them. we are not bashing jews. we are blaming the Israeli government and itelligence. they have copious amounts of blood on their hands. did you jump to the defense of Pakistan when there was a thread pointing the finger at them in the title? something tells me you didnt/wouldnt........
It's funny to watch these
It's funny to watch these Zionists chime in trying to crack the whip, with the same old tired "anti-Semite" "KKK" "neo-nazi" "hollow cost denier" smears.
It's funny, when you think about it, the holocaust has alot in common with 9/11:
-TPTB behind it weren't who we were told they were.
-The facts are dubious at best.
-Taking a rigorous look at the evidence and/or proposing revisionist theories re what really happened is even more taboo than with 9/11 at this point; it can actually get you locked up, incommunicado! Recently we heard Bush suggest that 9/11 Truthers are terrorist recruiters. Challenging the veracity of the official myth is probably soon to be outlawed, as it is with the holocaust. The truth does not need laws to protect it. Big Lies do.
-Holocaust: Qui Bono? Israel tops the list.
-9/11: Qui Bono? Israel tops the list.
-The official Holocaust myth, and the "neo-nazi threat" which ADL seeks to continually puff up, is used to unite Jews against a "shadowy outside enemy" (those filthy anti-Semites under every rock who want to do you harm! booga booga!). It's an elaborate deception designed to dupe good rank and file Jews to unite behind all things Zionist, a racist imperialist genocidal agenda which good moral Jews would not otherwise support. 9/11 serves the same function for John and Jane American, cynically using deceptively manufactured fear of a shadowy outside enemy, to dupe them into supporting racist imperialist genocidal wars.
-Holocaust Revisionists are tagged with a deliberately misleading, specially engineered MEME: "Holocaust Deniers". I've occasionally heard 9/11 Revisionists, aka 9/11 Truthers, labeled 9/11 Deniers" by those shilling for the official story.
In short, dry up and blow away, "Shalom".
Next Year in Jerusalem for the 9/11 Truth Movement !!!
Chris:
You betray yourself and your hatreds when you describe these issues as “funny” (most likely your grandmother was NOT turned into a bar of soap by Catholics and Christians)
You betray yourself when you make puns like “hollow cost” – you must be having lots of “fun”.
You betray yourself when you make analogies between 9/11 and the Holocaust with the incredible conclusion: Israel is behind the Holocaust AND 9/11 !!! Chris, it is only a short leap of faith for you, to say that Israel (which did not exist during the era of the Nazi party) actually PROVOKED the Nazis, and BEHIND THE SCENES, MANIPULATED THEM INTO GASSING AND INCINERATING 1/3 OF THE WORLD’S JEWS !!!!
Chris, you betray yourself when you refer to the “The official Holocaust myth”, and you would betray yourself even further if YOU DARED to come out of the closet, and explain to us all WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST MYTH”.
Chris, are you one of “those filthy anti-Semites under every rock” that you refer you? Your “Mel Gibson rant”, your anger, hatred, and holocaust denial imply you are a very disturbed person. If you are unhappy in your life, did you think that perhaps this is not the fault of terrible Jewish religion (the foundation of both Christianity and Islam) and the EVIL STATE OF ISRAEL !!! Why is it that you must FOCUS ON JEWS AND ISRAEL, and ignore the incredible crimes of Christianity throughout the ages ?
Chris, you conclude you rant with the statement:
In short, dry up and blow away, "Shalom".
When you think about it, you are demanding that I just “disappear” and stop challenging you – You demand that I leave the scene and “dry up and blow away”. Chris, this is an interesting choice of words. If you accepted the Holocaust as a historical fact, you would recognize that when the Nazis incinerated the Jews, they in fact “dried them up”, and “blew their ashes away” into the wind.
Chris, you would then start to understand why WE WILL NEVER GO AWAY.
(Just for the record, Chris, I hope you never “go away”, and because you have revealed so much about yourself and your true stripes, because your naked remarks do so much to undercut the agenda that your have)
You would start to understand why we have pledged NEVER AGAIN !!!
My last remarks: tonight is the start of the Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashanah.
Happy Jewish New Year to everyone !
May the coming year be one in which the horrors of 9/11 shall be revealed to the entire world.
And, and Jews have said for hundreds of years, when they were homeless and persecuted, “Next Year in Jerusalem”
Why don't you look to see who you're responding to
cuz it ain't Chris
quite honestly
I think your very presence and demeanor suggest anonymous above is onto something.
You got that right!
Throw a little forbidden truth at Shalom (ADL's 911blogger whip?) and watch the fire and brimstone schtick, LOL.
I'm the "Anonymous" who posted the above re 911/Holocaust parallels, and I aint Chris. What a foolish tact for Shalom to address his whole rant at Chris!
Is anyone else as bored as I am with the empty smears and inuendos which these ADL terrorists throw at anyone who dares speak a critical word of Zionism?
Calm down Zundel. Hey, we're all ostensibly "INNOCENT VICTIMS" of some shadowy outside enemy who wants to do us harm, right? Can't we all just get along? ;-)
speaking of the ADL: Dark
speaking of the ADL:
Dark Side of the Anti-Defamation League
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/September2006/220906Anti-Defamation...
Catholics & Christians turned your grandmother into soap?
Catholics & Christians turned your grandmother into a bar of soap? Bullshit, Nazis did it! Hitler himself was a sick Jew. Furthermore, what gives Jews the right to kill Palestinians over the Holocaust? Palestinians had nothing to do with it. Jews should invade & takeover a part of Germany, if anything!
Um, NO ONE was turned into soap, or lamp shades
No serious person, Zionist or otherwise, even claims this anymore. Slowly the mythical aspects are being discredited. No huge ovens, no huge gas chambers. Jews were used as prison labor so being the engine of the Nazi war machine, why would they be exterminated? Unjustly rounded up as enemies of the state? Sure. Treated like crap? Sure. But of course the real history is not some black and white tale of good versus evil--haven't we learned how these things are manipulated by now? The real history is ignored or downplayed, movies like United 93 provide a sensational alternative loosely based on reality, and voila! History is fabricated out of a framework of reality filled in with imaginative embellishments. Yes, they've been exposed. No, it is not hateful to demand for Jews a true account of their own reent history especially as it relates to the cynical manipulation and sacrifice imposed on them by the elites who dreamt up the Zionist project.
_
"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
If the NeoCons were aided & abetted by whomever....
If Bush/Cheney/Rummy/Rove/Rice et al, were aided & abetted by Israelis, Zionists, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, Eskimos, Chinamen, Australians, Vegans, or anyone else, they must all GO DOWN for it, plain & simple! No exceptions for anybody! Case closed! Stop this idiotic race/religion baiting!
and you betray your reading
and you betray your reading skills with that entire commentary. you got the wrong person. i never said the holocaust didnt happen and i demand an apology right now. you just typed an entire paragraph filled with lies about me. apologize now if you have any decency at all. the Mossad and the Israeli government were involved in 9/11. thats basically all i said. if you dont like that, thats too bad, but thats a fact. this isnt about history, this is about 9/11 and the Mossad was involved. apologize for your libel now. maybe next time you should check the names on the comments you respond to.
I DO Apolgize For Misdirecting My Respone
Chris:
Naturally, it was an innocent mistake, as the system on this site with the little reply tabs takes getting used to. So of course, I apologize for the remarks I addressed to you, when there were clearly directed at Mr. Anonymous. As far as the remarks I meant to address to him, I do not retract a single word.
As a Jew and a Zionist (sorry KKK'ers, I'm not a member of the ADL, although ADL members cannot be compared with the Holocaust deniers who have been coming out of the woodwork in this forum) I have no problem with the possibility that Israel and the Mossad were involved in 9/11 and the phony Iraq War, just like it seems obvious that the British Secret Service have been working hand-in-glove with Bushitler, not to mention the Pakistani ISI, the Saudis, and so on.
The premise I DO have a problem with is the DISPROPORTIONATE focus on Jews, Zionism, and Israel that you cannot help but note from the freakos, Jew-haters, and Holocaust deniers that have been spewing their venom into this 9/11 forum. Their "Mel Gibson rants" leave no doubt that they in fact subscribe to the same worldwide Jewish conspiracy theorists who led the Nazi Party. It is of interest that those of you who "merely argue for Israeli involvement" in 9/11 NEVER pause for a moment to repudiate these fellow travelers.
I think we should all honor the fact that the primary purpose of this forum is to discover ALL OF THE CONTRIBUTERS TO THE 9/11 HOAX AND THE IRAQ WAR HOAX in a PROPORTIONATE WAY.
As such, if we wish to look at HISTORICAL GUILT of different cultures, countries, and religions, let us LOOK AT THE PICTURE BEFORE BLAMING ANYONE. It is my sincere contention that over the last 2500 years that there is no doubt about which religions and which countries have caused the greatest bloodshed and been guilty of enormous spasms of genocide. Let's leave that as a history lesson for those who cannot spell Crusades, Inquistion, and Holocaust, and are unfamiliar with institutions such as the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican, and the religous orientation of the people who wore their throats raw cheering for Adolf Hitler.
Happy New Year! May the Coming Year Be One In Which Those Responsible for 9/11 Shall be Brought to Justice!
Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers
Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers
"...Israel’s Government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track websites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages...."
more:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2289232,00.html
Wow, I'm glad 911blogger
Wow, I'm glad 911blogger finally posts some facts about the real suspects, the jews.
Sorry, the "Cheney did 9/11" theories Alex Jones puts forward are safe, semitically correct, and a lie. Rich WASPS didn't do 9/11 for money and oil. But, he can make more money that way.
Check out
wingtv.net
shankradio.com
govnn.com
all of Christopher Bollyn's writing on the jews and 9/11
For the Enlightenment of All, THANKS Mr. Anonymous !!!
The Zionist Vampires Have Cost Us Our Honor
Christopher Jon Bjerknes
http://www.jewishracism.com
The Jewish controlled media has orchestrated a tag team event with Chavez and Ahmadinejad in their corner to wrestle away the last remnants of American honor. Chavez, in his Commie red shirt (for now sans the Che Guevara beret), is rallying the world against America. With the help of the Jewish dominated American media, Chavez is playing the bad cop to Ahmadinejad's good cop. Chavez is deflecting negative attention away from Iran and Israel, and is focusing it onto the US.
We used to be criticized as being the "policemen of the world". The Israel first traitors have now relegated us to the status of "genocidal criminals" of the world, who are led by a stupid witless Satan. And that is what the racist Jews want, the US to be the enemy of the world, together with Israel, so that we will be their iron scepter with which they can smash the potter's vessel of humanity. The racist, supremacist Jews have installed their puppet as our leader and he has terribly shamed the American nation. While our government sends our tax dollars to Israel and Egypt, the Communist Chavez gives oil to our poor and mocks our presidency to the world, and all the while the Communist Jews in America laugh alongside him and the rest of the world, as America is shamed. Oh, what we have lost as the Zionists have deliberately ruined us. It is truly pathetic!
And Jewish leadership has ready our "saviors" to save us from the devils and demons they have imposed upon us. While America should have been spreading universities and advanced industries and agricultural methods to our neighbors to the south, the Jewish leaders instead oppressed and impoverished these nations, deliberately inhibiting their progress and developing an oppressed class to use as a hammer against the American People. For more than a century and a half, the Rothschilds have been planning to grab us with a desperate hand from the south and tear us in two. Instead of America leading our hemisphere to a better and brighter future, Jewish leadership has done what it can to guarantee our common demise. Jewish leadership has raised up red shirted scum to come and spit in our faces for the crimes Jewish leadership has covertly committed against humanity in our name. After deliberately discrediting our government in the eyes of the world, Jewish leadership is attempting to discredit our government in our own eyes so that we will beg Jewish leadership to provide us with a savior like Communist Chavez who will bring us a Utopia of free oil and freedom from fascists like the Zionist traitor George Bush. Jewish leadership will next offer us freedom from income taxes and coins made of gold. What they won't tell you is that you'll have to buy your gold from them and that they will once again melt it down after you buy it and return it to their coffers. What they won't tell you is that your property will become theirs and you will have no income upon which taxes can be levied. You see, Jewish religious mythology teaches Jews that all the gold and property in the world is theirs by God's decree. Communism is not, and was never meant to be, a means to eliminate personal property. It is a means for Jewish leadership to steal all the wealth of the world. It is a means for Jewish leadership to destroy all religion in the world. It is a means for Jewish leadership to destroy all culture in the world. It is a means for Jewish leadership to destroy all national sovereignties in the world, save Israel—and there is the resolution to the Zionist/Communist Jewish paradox. There is no contradiction for a Jew to simultaneously call for all nations to surrender their sovereignty in obedience to God, and for Jews to have no goal but strengthening the nation of Israel. That is messianic Judaism in all its horror and racist hypocrisy. Ironically and paradoxically, a major part of the Jewish religious plan is the objective of making Jews irreligious. Jewish leaders believe that the prophets commanded that Jews fall away from God and that they are duty bound to see to it that two thirds of Jews perish as a result (Zechariah 13:8-9). They believe that the Messiah will only come when Jews have embraced heresy and have made the world evil (Sanhedrin 97a).
But the two-headed snake which has slithered onto our shores, and filled our thoughts courtesy of the Jewish controlled media, has another fanged fiend, another agent of Jewish leadership, Ahmadinejad. His Iranian fellows tempered his rhetoric, wisely and appropriately, but he slipped in a telling tribute to his Shabbataian-Frankist past. Round about the time crypto-Jewish Communists were infiltrating Iran in their campaign to surround Israel with Communist nations, with Communism which would destroy Islam and any Islamic ability to resist Jewish domination, round about that time in the 1950's, crypto-Jews created a Frankist-style sect among the Shia called "Hojjatieh" or "Hojjatiya". This sect used all the Frankist techniques of worming their way into power by hiding their true beliefs and keeping their genocidal literature secret. They also preached the Frankist Jewish doctrine that the world must deliberately be brought into chaos and evil and heresy must rule the world in order to provoke God to bring the Messiah, named in this sect the twelfth imam to appease Islamic sensibilities, but it is Frankist Jews who are behind it. It was Frankist Jews who bred Ahmadinejad, the Communist Revolutionary, and it was Frankist Jews who placed him in power to bring Iran into its own deliberate destruction. The Jews have had this plan for a very long time, and their green tinged anti-Messiah, Armilus, has an anti-Elijah—the Persian King. It is all told in the Jewish myth of Sefer Zerubbabel. Hence the myth of the green halo surrounding Ahmadinejad to foreshadow Armilus, and Ahmadinejad's scripted role as forerunner of the anti-Messiah and leader of the war on Israel.
Once America has been sufficiently alienated and humiliated by Chavez and Co., I suspect Ahmadinejad will return to the Saddam script and heat up the rhetoric. I hope I am wrong. It would be better that it were a bad dream.
"the jews" is a hateful term... like saying "the muslims"
These groups do NOT act in the interest of all whom they claim to represent. That's becuase they don't do what they do out of any noble cause, they do it, and claim to represent the larger group, in order to obtain allies to help cover for their crimes. To say "the Jews" is to imply that no Jew can see what is going on. BS--plenty do, and more would join the cause of truth if they weren't being made to think that it's made up of people who blame "the Jews"the way Israel always blames "the Arabs"and Bush always blames "the Muslims"--I mean, "the Islamofascists".
"Theirs is a land with a wall around it,
mine is a faith in my fellow man."
-Billy Bragg, Between the Wars
We need more of the latter and less of the former. If we do this right, we get a new, beautiful world. If we play into the trap of divide and conquer, you don't want to know what we get. Capisci??
_
"Among the 'spider-man' skeptics are those who claim that no human can shoot web and stick to walls... They conveniently ignore the fact that he was bitten by a radioactive spider."
Daily Bugle editorial debunking the claims of spider-man deniers
It's like saying "the Americans" vs "the Neocons"
I think when someone frames their Zionism gripe in terms of "the Jews", that's just provocateuring-- perhaps they're even ADL terrorists in their vigillent efforts to puff up the shodowy "neo-Nazi menace" without which they'd need a new boogyman which with to manipulate both the tribe, and the goyim.
Obviously most rank and file Jews are good people, unfortunately they're manipulated with great success by their Zionist leadership's Machiavellian MO in carrying out their agenda. The shadowy/elusive "anti-Semitism" threat which ADL & Co labor to puff up, is a tool to make useful idiots out of good Jews to cause them to support a racist imperialist genocidal agenda which they'd otherwise not support, but are duped into it out of fake/manufactured fear.
The Zionist manipulators even engineered another absurd meme to shame those Jews like Norman Finkelstein who stray from the Zionist song sheet and think for themselves: the "Self-Hating Jew".
The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering -Norman Finkelstein
Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History -Norman Finkelstein
The Zionist/Neocon alignment, with their unmistakably similar Machiavellian MOs, is well documented. One excellent BBC documentary which covers this reality is called "The War Party", which you can watch now for free:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8581.htm
whens everyone going to realize they ALL had their hands
ALL UP in the cookie jar.
Mossad
The Mossad certainly has the capability to do something like 9/11. Also a co-operative clientele with the Bush admin. And I don't think secrecy would be a big problem with that group. Qui bono?