5 yr anniversary of 9/11 and America is still asleep. Makes me really angry in a society that rejects anger as dangerous. I don't give a f*ck what people think about 9/11 anymore, but if you can't get your muster up over innocent civilians being liquidated in Arab countries on a daily basis and our civil liberties eroding like the beaches, than you don't deserve citizenship. I see people reading GQ and US and PEOPLE and JOHN GRISHAM on the train and think 'Are you kidding me?'

Sucking ink from Hearst c*ck.

Wake up. They blew up building 7. They blew up WTC1&2. They contaminate our troops with Depleted Uranium. They drop cute little blue cluster bombs for little Iraqi and Lebanese kids to pick up months and years later to be blown to bits. They lie, torture, rape, and murder IN YOUR NAME. You won't see these stories in the TIMES or the POST, but it's happening every day. Wake up Amerika. Turn off American Idol. Throw out your TV. Use your daily paper for kindling. Stop Planned Obsolescence. Stop Consumerism. Stop Corporatocracy. Stop the Military Industrial Complex Eisenhower warned of. Dissolve the Fed that Jackson, Lincoln, and Kennedy tried to fight. Take back Habeus Corpus, Posse Commitatus, the Bill of Rights. Support Diplomacy. Support Peace at all costs. Support non-violent action.

WAKE THE FUCK UP. DO SOMETHING.

LEARN. EDUCATE. ENGAGE. RESIST.

I had lost faith in my Canadian Media, but CBC comes through BIG TIME. The show they had on this morning, was great, but now, they've replayed it at 10pm. So it was on in the morning, and in the evening, prime time! Looking at the tv scheduel, there's gonna be a TON of Canadians watching this. No family guy, no nothing. This is gonna be huge in canada! The show before was great too, about the health hazzards after 9/11, but this one was awesome. Its about 6 threads down, but here's the video that's airing again, right now on the west coast. http://www.911podcasts.com/files/video/CBCSunday_20060910.wmv

if there's anyone in vancouver reading this, come to UBC campus tomorrow to hand out flyers... wearing the black and white 9/11 shirt if possible.

I just caught the tail-end of tonight’s CNN special and its guest debating someone on the 911 Truth issues. As usual, the host was rude and afforded more time to the guest supporting the lie.
Then this guy said he talked to engineers that built WTC and they agreed a plane did indeed do the deed.

Watch this and tell me what is said here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL4isaZRapY

Isn't Frank DeMartini WTC Project Manager qualified?

Oh, I get it . . . he was qualified "then" but not now he's not. How foolish of me not to recognize that structural integrity changes depending on who you interview.

ATTN: Fox I have STOPPED watching, everything. You control the microphone and content to your benefit. Fair, accurate, NOT. Who is paying you guys to keep this charade alive?

Love of Country is very different than Love of Government, where do you stand?

However, you could be the hero network (if you wanted to) start doing "right" by the American people.

People that ask honest questions deserve honest answers. The whole world is starting to laugh. You can't answer anything with this type of reporting!

Let me lean out the window.. and play prophet.

The 5yr anniv did its thing... lots more people became aware OF THE POSSIBILITY that 911 was an inside job. Slowly but surely OF THESE NEWBIES many (50%) will actually start to REALIZE that it was. This will take another year or two.

IMHO the perps CAN NO LONGER DO is to committ another terror atrocity. I think it also is near impossible that they enable a jihad-group to do one... first there will be GOV/MIL people obstructing and secondly the jihadists will smell a rat.

Time is running out for the perps.. and they know it.

Only by

1) keeping their heads down and
2) stamping on every sprouting challenge

can they expect to die natural deaths.

to be continued...

Everyone's values are defined by what they will tolerate when it is done to others. ~ William Greider

Thanks.

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/secrethistory/timeline.html

It's a 2-hour show, the first 45 covers the Clinton years, the last covers 75 covers Bush.

The last 15 is especially damning of the Bush administration, suggesting they 'LIHOP'ed at the very mininum.

You know, integrity and getting on with the mission and doing it right is more important than loyalty. Both are great traits, but integrity, honesty and performance and competence have to outweigh, in this business, loyalty.

General Tony Zinni - Commander of United States Central Command (Ret.)

Scholarsfor911truth has a petition that calls for realise of 9/11 information.

15 578 has signed so far.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172?ltl=1141667399

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200609/s1738220.htm

9-11 Special David Hawkins Lisa Guliani & Victor Thorn David Ray Griffin

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/09/11.html

Thank you to dz and all the people running and maintaining 911Blogger.com.

Thank you for creating an incredibly resourceful venue for individuals and institutions researching and learning about the horrible truth of U.S. government involvement in aiding and abetting 9/11.

The criminals embedded in the U.S. government are running scared and lashing out. A concerted effort is being made to destroy anyone who speaks truth. This simply means we are getting closer to massive widespread knowledge of which groups and individuals are the real suspects.

Recently, we've seen the attack on and firing of Mike Malloy from Air America. Kevin Ryan was fired for revealing truth. And, now Steven Jones is being terrorized by BYU and the forces putting the University up to such actions.

Divide and conquer. Infiltrate. Discredit through shills. All the tired old strategies.

Fortunately, the insane establishment press and criminals in the Bush Administration do not understand with what they are dealing. A fed-up and outraged citizenry will no longer tolerate the lies, fairy tales, and violent evil that is being thrust upon U.S. citizens and people around the world.

We must continue to nurture and support one another as we know judgment and punishment day is coming for the real perpetrators - those in the U.S. government who have used foreigners and natives alike to orchestrate the terror of 9/11.

be sure to watch CSPAN today.. they are taking all sorts of calls today..

one a minute ago said that he was in afghanistan with the military and that they were barely even after him.. that they had come across one of his dialisis machines..

some had been claiming UBL wasn't really on dialisis, but this military guy seemed to believe otherwise.

...believe 9/11 was an inside job.

So, if 100,000,000 Americans know that elements of their own government orchestrated the events of 9/11 and have continuously deceived the public by selling them on the fake "war on terror"...then where are these 100,000,000 people?

What will it take to get you Americans to do something? I'm sorry, but this is so goddamned sad what you guys are letting them get away with. But what's more sad is that if they were hosting American Idol auditions, or were giving away free McDonalds at ground zero, you can bet your ass that there'd be a turnout.

Most Americans are so damn lazy and deserve to lose their country if they're unwilling to defend it.

Sorry for the rant here, just upset about the lack of coverage of truth activists at ground zero. There's 100,000,000 million of you! Where are you?

I saw the entire debate this morning with the PM liars and the LC guys. I thought it was pretty damn good. It was broken into topics: Shanksville, the Pentagon, the towers, and Building 7. Goodman played the moderator and did not take one side at all. They would air segments from LC2E-recut, then they would debate the issue. PM started out, perhaps taking the lead with their "debunking", but soon after Dylan and Jason hammered out so much more info that wan't in the video that left PM sweating and stuttering, eventually trying it to tie this to the likes of Kennedy and holocaust denial. Jason was visiablly annoyed and called Meigs a liar multiple times. Dylan kept his cool and was awesome. Overall it was great and viewers/listeners of Democracy Now got a lot of info they never heard before. Kudos to Dylan and Jason. Great job going up against these liars.

Everyone should check out the archive here http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/11/1345203

9/11 Conspiracy Theories:
The 9/11 Truth Movement in Perspective
by Phil Molé

At the Hyatt Regency O’Hare near Chicago, a crowd of approximately 400 people has gathered on a pleasant summer evening. Some are old and some are young; some are dressed in colorful tie-died shirts while others wear dress shirts and slacks, but most seem cheerful and friendly. We are all waiting for the opening of the main lecture hall for the evening’s event, the first of many scheduled talks during a weekend-long conference. We bide some time by looking at the items for sale: DVD copies of Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11, the anti-Karl Rove documentary Bush’s Brain, and the more recent Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price.

There is nothing especially unusual here, since all of these are available at the Borders or Best Buy near you. But then as the doors to the main hall are about to open, one anxious attendee tries to start a chant of “9/11 was an Inside Job.” A few people join in before another attendee tells him, quite emphatically, “we already know!” The weekend conference is the Chicago meeting for 911truth.org, one of the most visible organizations within a larger coalition known as the “9/11 Truth Movement,” and most of the crowd believes that the United States government planned and orchestrated the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

The statement “we already know!” well summarizes the attitude of the conference attendees toward the material presented during the lectures. Many at the conference do not seem to be looking for new information that might lead to more accurate perspectives about the events of 9/11. A fellow sitting near me admits, “We already know this stuff; we’re here to reconfirm what we already know.” The conference is a way for attendees to consolidate their group identity, and try to bring their message to those people at home and abroad who believe the “official story” of 9/11. As someone who does not share the views of the 9/11 Truth Movement, I have another objective. I want to listen to their arguments and view their evidence, and understand the reasons why so many likable and otherwise intelligent people are convinced that the United States government planned the murder of nearly 3,000 of its own citizens.

The Collapse of
World Trade Center Buildings 1 & 2
When most of us recall the events of 9/11, we think of the image of those two seemingly indestructible World Trade Center towers crumbling to the ground. Not surprisingly, their collapse is also a central issue for the 9/11 Truth Movement. An overwhelming amount of the organization’s talks and publicity materials address the fall of Buildings 1 and 2. But as these materials show, 911truth.org does not believe the official story that the primary damage to the WTC occurred when two airplanes hijacked by terrorists crashed into the towers. Rather, they maintain that the towers fell due to a controlled demolition, planned in advance by the United States government.

Why do they think this? A primary reason seems to be that the collapse of the towers looks like the result of a controlled demolition. Since there is no structural resistance to gravity in a controlled demolition, the building collapses straight into its own footprint, with each floor “pancaking” onto the floors below at or near the speed of a free fall. Many of the presenters at the Hyatt Conference compared videos of the collapse of the towers with videos of known controlled demolitions, noting the similarity in both the appearance and speed of collapse. 911truth.org maintains that if actually hit by an airplane, the steel structure of the WTC buildings should have provided at least some resistance to the weight of the floors above, causing the falling structure to pitch over to one side rather than pancake straight down. They further argue that fires caused by burning jet fuel from the crashed planes could not have caused the collapse, since jet fuel burns at a temperature of no more than 1500° Fahrenheit,1 while a temperature of approximately 2800° is needed to melt steel. David Heller makes the point in a widely read article:

The official story maintains that fires weakened the buildings. Jet fuel supposedly burned so hot it began to melt the steel columns supporting the towers. But steel-framed skyscrapers have never collapsed from fire, since they’re built from steel that doesn’t melt below 2750° Fahrenheit. No fuel, not even jet fuel, which is really just refined kerosene, will burn hotter than 1500° Fahrenheit.2

Since burning jet fuel is not hot enough by itself to melt steel, reports that melted steel was observed at Ground Zero suggest to conspiracy theorists that some other incendiary substance must have been introduced.

Finally, many of the leaders of the movement claim that demolition “squibs” can be seen in videos of the WTC collapse just before and during the time the towers began to fall. In professional demolition lingo, a “squib” is an explosive device used to weaken building structure during a controlled demolition. Several presenters at the conference pointed out small bursts of debris spraying out horizontally from the towers during collapse, and identified these as “squibs” secretly detonated to fell the buildings.

What can we make of these allegations? First, let’s examine the similarity in appearance between the collapse of the World Trade Center towers and the collapse of buildings destroyed through planned demolitions. In controlled demolitions, detonating devices weaken or disrupt all major support points in a building at the same time. Therefore, once the collapse begins, all parts of the building are simultaneously in motion, free-falling to the ground. However, this is definitely not what happens during the collapse of WTC Buildings 1 and 2. Carefully review footage of the collapses, and you will find that the parts of the buildings above the plane impact points begin falling first, while the lower parts of the buildings are initially stationary.3 The parts of the towers below the impact point do not begin to fall until the higher floors have collapsed onto them. This is not what we would expect if the towers collapsed from a controlled demolition, but it is exactly what we would expect if the building collapse resulted from damage sustained by the impact of the planes and subsequent fire damage. A conspiracy theorist may counter that the buildings were rigged to begin falling from the top down, but what are the chances that those planning such a complicated demolition would be able to predict the exact location the planes would impact the towers, and prepare the towers to begin falling precisely there?

Additionally, footage of the collapse of the South Tower, or Building 2 reveals that the tower did not fall straight down, as the North Tower and buildings leveled by controlled demolitions typically fall. Instead, the tower tilted toward the direction of the impact point, and then began to pancake downward with the top part of the building tilted at an angle. The difference between the two collapses can be explained by the different way each airplane struck the buildings. The first plane struck the North Tower (Building 1) between the 94th to 98th floors and hit it head on, burrowing almost directly toward the core of the building. The second airplane struck the South Tower between the 78th and 84th floors, but sliced in at an angle, severely damaging the entire northeast corner of the building.4 Compared with the North Tower, the South Tower sustained damage that was both less evenly distributed and significantly lower on the building’s frame, requiring the weakened point to support more upper building weight than the corresponding crash site on the North Tower. This explains both the tilt of the building as it fell toward the weakened corner, and the fact that the South Tower fell first despite being struck after the North Tower was struck. Again, this scenario makes good sense if the buildings fell due to damage inflicted by the plane crashes, but makes very little sense if the buildings fell due to a planned demolition.

The 9/11 Truth Movement often states or implies that steel would have needed to melt in order for the structure to collapse at the speed of a free-fall. While there are varying assessments of the temperature of the fire at WTC, most agree that the temperature probably reached 1,000° Fahrenheit and possibly higher than 1,800° F. Flames of this temperature would be far short of the approximately 2800° F needed to melt steel, but they would have been sufficient to severely reduce the structural integrity of the metal. Best engineering estimates tell us that steel loses 50% of its strength at 650° F, and can lose as much as 90% of its strength at temperatures of 1,800° F.5 Even if we assume temperatures of no higher than 1,000° F during the fire, we would still have more than enough reasons to expect damage severe enough to result in eventual collapse.

The unique structure of the WTC towers exaggerated the problems caused by the weakened steel. The towers had a lightweight “perimeter tube” design consisting of 244 exterior columns of 36 cm square steel box section on 100 cm centers, with 95% of the structure’s interior consisting of nothing but air (see Figure 1).6 Within this perimeter tube design there was a 27m by 40m core, designed to provide additional support to the tower. Steel trusses, or joists, connected the outer beams to the core at each story, and provided much of the overall support to the weight of each floor. The impact and explosion of the airplane crashes probably knocked off most of the insulating material intended to fireproof the steel beams, considerably increasing their vulnerability to flames. The heat of the flames reduced the steel to a fraction of its initial strength, while also causing the steel trusses to expand at each end until they no longer supported the weight of the building’s floors, triggering the collapse. The expansion and warping of the steel would have been particularly significant due to temperature differences within the burning structure.7 Thus, the trusses went limp much like a slackened laundry line, providing little or no resistance to the weight of the floors overhead.

Figure 1 A cutaway diagram of the
structure of the main towers at WTC
What about the “melted steel” that 9/11 conspiracy theorists claim was at Ground Zero? Dr. Steven Jones’ popular article cites several anecdotal sources speaking about flowing or pooled samples of melted steel found at Ground Zero.8 However, the sources in question are informal observations of “steel” at Ground Zero, not laboratory results.9 To many people, any grayish metal looks sufficiently like steel to call it “steel” when speaking informally. To actually establish that the substance in question is steel, we need analytical laboratory results using atomic absorption (AA) or another suitable test. It seems far more likely that the metal seen by the contractors was aluminum, a component of the WTC structural material that melts at a much lower temperature than steel and can look superficially similar to it. As for the “squibs” conspiracy theorists claim to see in videos of the WTC collapse, these are plumes of smoke and debris ejected from the building due to the immense pressure associated with millions of tons of falling towers (see Figure 2). Videos of the WTC collapse show that these plumes do not begin until after the towers begin falling and increase in intensity as the collapse continues — this is not the scenario one would expect if the plumes were actually explosives used to cause the buildings to fall.

The Collapse of
World Trade Center Building 7

Figure 2 circled area shows an alleged “squib” (actually air compressed by the falling tower)
“Not so fast,” the 9/11 Truth Movement might say. How do you explain the collapse of WTC Building 7, which was not struck by an airplane? Many 9/11 conspiracy theorists maintain that the collapse of this building at about 5:20 pm on 9/11 would not have occurred unless it was already prepared for demolition. The conspiracy theorists assume that damage sustained by WTC 7 during the attack was not sufficient to trigger its collapse. The site wtc7.net claims that “fires were observed in Building 7 prior to its collapse, but they were isolated in small parts of the building, and were puny by comparison to other building fires.” They further claim that any damage from falling debris from WTC 1 and WTC 2 would have needed to be symmetrical to trigger the pancaking collapse of WTC 7.10

These arguments only reveal the assumptions of their authors. First, the fires burning in WTC 7 were extremely extensive, as Figure 3 shows. The reason this is not obvious from 9/11 Truth Movement presentations and documentaries is that they tend to only show the north side of WTC 7, selectively causing the building to appear both far less ravaged by fire and structural damage than it actually was (see Figure 4).

Firefighter Richard Banaciski notes the difference in appearance between the north and south sides of the building in his first-person account:

We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors.11

Figure 3 WTC 7 seen from the Southwest side, showing the true extent of fire and structural damage
Emergency response workers at Ground Zero realized that extensive damage to the lower south section of WTC 7 would cause collapse as early as 3 pm on 9/11, a fact reported on news broadcasts at the time.12 Video footage shows that when collapse occurred, the south wall of the building gave in first, which is exactly what we would expect based on the location of the most extensive damage. As noted for the collapse of the South Tower, the mechanics of the building’s fall are completely consistent with the nature of the damage sustained. The planned demolition hypothesis, on the other hand, fails to explain why collapse would begin at exactly the point where damage was inflicted, since the conspirators would have had to been able to predict exactly where debris from the fallen North and South Towers would strike WTC 7. And while the makers of the documentary Loose Change comment that WTC 7 “fell straight down, into a convenient pile,” the truth is that the pile of debris was 12 stories high and 150 meters across, hardly the kind of “convenient pile” described by conspiracy theorists.13

For those who believe that Building 7 fell due to controlled demolition, some of the most powerful “evidence” seemingly comes from WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein’s alleged “confession” that he authorized the tower’s destruction. The quote in question comes from a September, 2002 PBS Special called America Rebuilds, in which Silverstein says:

I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, “We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.” And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.14

Figure 4 The image of WTC 7 commonly shown by the 9/11 Truth Movement, showing apparently minimal damage to the building
To conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones at prisonplanet.com, this quote seems to be a “smoking gun” because they interpret the phrase “pull it” to be “industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives.”15 Silverstein seems to be saying that he and the firefighters decided to pull (destroy) Building 7, and watched it fall after authorizing the demolition. No building could be controllably demolished so quickly, the conspiracy theorists go on to argue, so WTC 7 must have been prepared for demolition long in advance.

On closer inspection, this supposedly devastating evidence does not seem to mean what the 9/11 Truth Movement thinks it means. There is far from unanimous industry agreement that the phrase “pull it” always signifies a controlled demolition with explosives — more specific phrases such as “pull away” would be used to designate the specific operation to be performed.16 And of course, “pull” has many common language uses quite separate from demolition lingo. But if Silverstein wasn’t describing a decision to destroy WTC 7, what could the words “pull it” mean? A good place to seek the answer is this September 9, 2005 statement by Mr. Dara McQuillan, a spokesperson for Larry Silverstein:

In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building.

Later in the day, the Fire Commander ordered his firefighters out of the building and at 5:20 p.m. the building collapsed. No lives were lost at Seven World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

As noted above, when Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for a television documentary he stated, “I said, you know, we’ve had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it.” Mr. McQuillan has stated that by “it,” Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building [emphasis added].17

McQuillan’s response also indicated that firefighters were present at WTC 7 to evacuate tenants, and worked at the site until late in the afternoon shortly before the collapse occurred. There is in fact abundant evidence that firefighters were present in and around WTC 7 in evacuation and rescue missions until late in the day on 9/11. As one account describes:

The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was [that] the collapse [of the WTC towers] had damaged 7 World Trade Center … It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time [emphasis added] and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we [wouldn’t] lose any more people. We continued to operate on what we could from that distance and approximately an hour and a half after that order was [given], at 5:30 in the afternoon, World Trade Center collapsed completely.18

Another first responder adds that there were “tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled [emphasis added] us out.”19 The first-hand accounts of rescue operations at WTC 7 tell a consistent story, and the latter quote also uses the word “pull” to describe the removal of firefighters from the vicinity of the building, just as McQuillan’s statement does. Indeed, there is large agreement between McQuillan’s response and the testimony of the firefighters, including the fact that:

firefighters were in fact in the vicinity of WTC 7 on 9/11;
their activities involved evacuation and rescue missions;
firefighters remained near WTC 7 until late in the afternoon of 9/11;
firefighters realized that WTC 7 would probably fall by approximately 3 pm on 9/11; and
firefighters pulled back from the building shortly after this realization, and watched the building collapse at approximately 5:20 pm. Despite the objections of conspiracy theorists, the “official story” is both logically coherent and supported by evidence.
By contrast, the story told by the 9/11 Truth Movement is riddled with holes. It assumes that Larry Silverstein destroyed WTC Building 7, presumably in order to claim a huge insurance payoff. But if this is so, why would he tell the world of his plot on a PBS special? Furthermore, what relationship does Silverstein have with the United States government who, according to conspiracy theorists, destroyed the WTC buildings in order to terrorize its citizens into accepting domination by a police state?20 And if the government controlled the demolition of the WTC buildings in order to strike fear into its citizens, why one this one case would it wait until all of the tenants were evacuated from WTC 7 so that there were no reported casualties?21 The government’s strategy appears wildly inconsistent in the Truth Movement account — killing nearly 3,000 people in the destruction of the two main towers, while allowing an entire afternoon for the tenants of WTC 7 to escape. We should also note that the alleged 9/11 plot was needlessly complicated, since the building was wired for a controlled demolition and targeted to be hit by airplanes — why not just do the controlled demolition, ditch the airplanes and blame it on the terrorists of your choice?

There’s also the problem that, as even the 9/11 Truth Movement admits, prepping a building for demolition takes considerable time and effort. Usually a building targeted for demolition has been abandoned for considerable time and partially gutted to allow explosives intimate contact with the structure of the building. But since all of the WTC buildings were occupied right up to 9/11, how did the government gain access to wire 3 towers for complete demolition without anyone noticing? Imagine trying to sneak wires and bombs into buildings while thousands of people are working in offices, riding the elevators and milling about in the halls — that scenario is unlikely in the extreme.

The Pentagon
Many people in the 9/11 Truth Movement believe that the Pentagon was not actually struck by Flight 77, as the “official story” claims. Instead, they believe that the United States government somehow staged the damage, perhaps through the use of a bomb or strategically fired missile. This claim first attracted attention in French author Thierry Meyssan’s book, Pentagate, which claims that the damage done to the Pentagon was too limited to have resulted from the crash of a Boeing 757.22 The documentary “Loose Change” claims that the hole left in the Pentagon by the alleged airplane was “a single hole, no more than 16 feet in diameter,” and that no remains whatsoever of Flight 77 were found at the crash site.23 To dramatically support this last point, conspiracy theorists cite CNN correspondent Jamie McIntyre’s report from the crash site on 9/11, which says, “From my close-up inspection, there’s no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.”24

Like the previously discussed arguments about WTC 7 not being damaged enough to fall on its own, complaints about the size of the hole in the Pentagon left by Flight 77 rely on selective choice of perspective. 9/11 conspiracy theorists like to reference pictures of the damaged Pentagon in which the hole made by the plane appears to be small, but aren’t as fond of the pictures accurately showing the full extent of the damage. Some conspiracy theorists also don’t seem satisfied that the shape of the hole matches that expected for a crashed airplane. But the expectation that the plane should have left an immediately recognizable hole in the building is delusional — a speeding Boeing 757 will not leave a snow-angel style impression of itself in a concrete building (versus the mostly-glass exterior of the WTC buildings, which did leave an outline of a plane). And the contention that no remains of Flight 77 were found at the crash site is simply absurd. Many pictures taken of the area around the Pentagon crash site clearly show parts of an airplane in the wreckage. In an excellent article about 9/11 conspiracy theories in Popular Mechanics, blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer describes his own observations as the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after Flight 77 crashed:

I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box.

Kilsheimer’s eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: “I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?”25

But if there is so much evidence that a plane crashed into the Pentagon, why did CNN correspondent Jamie McIntyre report that he could find none? The answer is that McIntyre did not report this at all, and the 9/11 Truth Movement is once again selectively manipulating evidence to fit their conclusions. When McIntyre noted that no debris from a plane was observable near the Pentagon, he was responding to a specific question asked by CNN anchor Judy Woodruff during the segment. Flight 77 came in flying very low, and there had been speculation that the plane might have struck the ground shortly before reaching the Pentagon. McIntyre’s response, when quoted in full, makes clear that he is saying that there was no evidence that the plane hit the ground before hitting the Pentagon, but he certainly does not deny that the plane struck the Pentagon itself.

WOODRUFF: Jamie, Aaron was talking earlier — or one of our correspondence was talking earlier — I think — actually, it was Bob Franken — with an eyewitness who said it appeared that that Boeing 757, the American jet, American Airline jet, landed short of the Pentagon.

Can you give us any better idea of how much of the plane actually impacted the building?

MCINTYRE: You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there’s no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site is the actual site of the building that’s crashed in [emphasis added], and as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you can pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse [emphasis added].26

Note that McIntyre never questions that an airplane crash damaged the Pentagon, and indeed describes seeing many pieces of the aircraft around the crash site in an earlier section of the CNN transcript.27 Of course, this has not stopped conspiracy theorists from picking and choosing the evidence to push their own agendas.

Flight 93 and Other Alleged Anomalies
On April 5, 2006, the creators of the 9/11 conspiracy documentary “Loose Change” and their supporters decided to attend the premiere of the film “United 93,” about the hijacked airplane that crashed on 9/11. They wanted to take the opportunity to expose the alleged lies about this flight, and in the words of one “Loose Change” forum member, to “bite these bastards where it hurts, and have this Fight 93 movie backfire on them.”28 To many Americans, the passengers on United 93 who fought back against the terrorists and caused it to crash before it could reach its target are heroes, but the 9/11 Truth Movement sees things differently. Depending on which conspiracy theorist you ask, you will either learn that Flight 93 actually landed safely, or that a US military jet shot the plane out of the sky.29 The first claim stems from confusion in the initial Associated Press (AP) reports between Flight 93 and Flight 1989, the latter of which did land at Cleveland’s Hopkins Airport on 9/11. The AP subsequently corrected the error, but many conspiracy theorists have not followed suit.30 The second claim rests largely on unsupported assertions that the main body of the engine and other large parts of the plane turned up miles from the main wreckage site — too far away to have resulted from an ordinary crash. This is incorrect, because the engine was found only 300 yards from the main crash site, and its location was consistent with the direction in which the plane had been traveling.31 Furthermore, the black box for the flight records the struggle onboard preceding the plane’s crash. Conspiracy theorists are left with not only an evidentially worthless theory, but also a confusing one. Why would the same U.S. government that allegedly destroyed the WTC shoot down Flight 93 before it could cause similar damage to other buildings? Of course, this question assumes a standard of logical consistency that the 9/11 Truth Movement seems to lack.

Another alleged flight anomaly concerns the supposed “stand down” order given by the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) on 9/11 to allow the hijacked airplanes to reach their destinations without interference. The 9/11 Truth Movement believes that NORAD had the capability of locating and intercepting planes on 9/11, and its failure to do so indicates a government conspiracy to allow the attacks to occur. To support this assertion, they claim that NORAD could have quickly neutralized the hijacked planes because flight interceptions are routine, with 67 such intercepts occurring before 9/11.32 Significantly, this claim does not specify the length of time over which these alleged intercepts occurred, or tell us whether they took place near major cities or over, say, miles of open ocean. More specific and accurate information comes from the Popular Mechanics article, which states:

In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart’s Learjet, in October 1999. With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts.33

It is not a quick or easy matter to locate and intercept a plane behaving erratically. NORAD personnel must first attempt repeated communication with the planes in question to rule out more mundane problems, and then must contact appropriate military personnel to scramble the planes and direct them to the appropriate location. The situation on 9/11 was further complicated by the fact that terrorists on the hijacked jets had turned off or disabled the onboard radar transponders. Without a transponder signal identifying the airplanes, each hijacked airplane would have been only one moving blip among many others on NORAD’S screens, making it much harder to track. Thus, even a direct NORAD decision to intercept any of the hijacked planes on 9/11 would have still entailed a significant amount of time to reach the jet — time that was simply not available on 9/11.

Various other conspiracy theories focus on the government’s alleged foreknowledge of the terrorist attacks. One popular theory suggests there was a suspiciously high volume of “put” trading of airline stocks in the days just before 9/11. Since “put” trading is effectively a gamble that the price of a stock will decrease, conspiracy theorists surmise that trading “insiders” knew about the coming events of 9/11 and placed their bets accordingly. While this may look suspicious in isolation, the general volume of put trading on these stocks reached similar levels at earlier points in the year. The spike in American Airlines trading was the highest of the all airline companies involved, but that’s hardly surprising considering that the company had just released a major warning about possible losses.34 Indeed, general bad news about the airline industry prompted investment companies to advise their clients to take the put options, removing any need to blame the trading options on foreknowledge of the attacks.

Another theory alleges that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) arrived at the World Trade Center on September 10, 2001, thus showing that the government knew about the coming disaster. This claim is based on a statement by Tom Kenney of the Massachusetts task force, who told CBS news anchor Dan Rather on September 13, 2001, “We’re currently, uh, one of the first teams that was deployed to support the city of New York for this disaster. We arrived on, uh, late Monday night and went into action on Tuesday morning. And not until today did we get a full opportunity to work, uh, the entire site.”35 The rather mundane explanation for this quote is that Mr. Kenney confused his days — not an unusual occurrence for someone who had been working for more than two long days in emergency response activities. Thus, a straightforward interpretation of Kenney’s response is that he arrived at Ground Zero on 9/11 (which he incorrectly identified as Monday, rather than Tuesday), went into action on 9/12 (mistakenly identified as Tuesday) and did not get a chance to work the whole WTC site until “today” (the day he was speaking to Rather, or Thursday, 9/13). Additionally, many sources document the arrival of FEMA on 9/11, and Kenney’s wife confirmed the day her husband was dispatched to Ground Zero as 9/11.36 The degree to which the 9/11 Truth Movement will exaggerate and exploit simple misunderstandings does not speak well of their concern for truth.

Much of this discussion has focused on explanations given by the 9/11 Truth Movement, but we should note that the explanations they don’t give are just as problematic. I have not been able to locate any significant discussion of al Qaeda, radical Islamic terrorists or the modern history of the Middle East in any of the 9/11 Truth Movement’s writings. The most likely reason for this is that, like most other Americans, many of them simply didn’t pay very much attention to the Middle East before 9/11. Yet, it is impossible to understand the threat of terrorism unless we also understand how the fall of the Ottoman empire, the fragmentation of much of the Middle East into new nations with largely arbitrary boundaries after WW II, Muslim reaction to the creation of the state of Israel, the birth of Islamic fundamentalism, conflict with and influence by Soviet Russia, and frustration over America’s support for Israel have shaped the ideology and mission of groups like al Qaeda. Islamic terrorist groups arose in this context, and have actively and repeatedly targeted American interests for over two decades. The idea that Islamic terrorists would target U.S. buildings for attack fits well with recent events over the past two decades, including:

an attack by the radical Hezbollah faction on Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983;
the hijacking of the Achille Lauro in 1985;
a truck bomb attack on the World Trade Center in 1993; killing 6 people and injuring over 1,000 more;
a thwarted attempt to blow up 12 planes heading from the Philippines to the U.S. in January, 1995;
an attack on Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996, killing 19 U.S. military personnel and injuring hundreds more;
the bombings of U.S. Embassy buildings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1995, killing 12 Americans and 200 Kenyans and Tanzanians;
a thwarted attempt by Ahmed Ressam to attack Los Angeles international airport in late 1999;
a suicide boat bombing against the U.S.S. Cole on October 12, 2000, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39 others.37
Additionally, there is well-documented evidence that Osama Bin Laden has repeatedly organized and prompted attacks against the United States. His role as a financier for major terrorist organizations and the leader of al Qaeda is well-established. Bin Laden issued a 1996 fatwa officially declaring a jihad against the United States, and a second fatwa in 1998 declaring “to kill the Americans and their allies — civilian and military is an individual duty for any Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it.”38 Since bin-Laden and al Qaeda have officially claimed responsibility for the attacks of 9/11, there is no point in seeking alternative theories.39

The best explanation for the events of 9/11 is that it was the latest and most damaging attack yet in a series of attacks by radical Islamic terrorists who wish to end what they believe is an evil U.S. foreign policy. As a nation, we were psychologically and strategically unprepared for this attack due to our failure to acknowledge the seriousness of the threat. Sadly, the 9/11 Truth Movement continues to divert its gaze from the real problems, preferring the solace of delusions to reality.

Conclusion: The Power of Conspiracy Theories
This article has analyzed the arguments of the 9/11 Truth Movement and found them lacking. Yet, the 400 people who attended the conference and the thousands of others who support their efforts find these theories convincing, and the reason does not necessarily seem to be grounded in common political ideology. Based on my informal survey of the crowd at the Hyatt conference, I noted that attendees seemed to come from each extreme of the political spectrum. There were representatives of the far right who decry any form of government authority, but there were also members of the far left waging a tireless campaign against the perceived evils of capitalism and imperialism. We need to return to a question posed near the beginning of this discussion: Why do so many intelligent and promising people find these theories so compelling?

There are several possible answers to this question, none of them necessarily exclusive of the others. One of the first and most obvious is distrust of the American government in general, and the Bush administration in particular. This mistrust is not entirely without basis. The American government deceived its citizens about the real human costs of Vietnam, and resorted to military tactics that were ethically questionable even by the standards of war. The revelations of Watergate, the Iran-Contra scandal, and other nefarious schemes great and small have understandably eroded public confidence in government. Couple that with an administration, that took office after the most controversial presidential election in more than a century, and one that backed out of international agreements such as the Kyoto Protocol, misled citizens about the science of global warming and stem cell research, initiated a war in Iraq based on unsupportable “intelligence” about weapons of mass destruction, and failed to respond in adequately to the effects of a hurricanes in the Gulf Coast, and you have strong motivations for suspicion.40 (Suffice it to say, admiration for George W. Bush is not my motivation for defending him against the claims of conspiracy theorists).

However, there are a few things to be said about suspicion. First, there is the simple philosophical point that suspicion alone demonstrates nothing — any theory needs evidence in its favor if it is to be taken seriously. Second, the mistakes made by our government in the past are qualitatively different from a conscious decision to kill thousands of its own citizens in order to justify the oppression of others. Most importantly, there is the fact that most of what we know about the bad decisions made by our government is only knowable due to the relative transparency with which our government operates, and the freedom to disseminate and discuss this information.

The full irony of this last point hit me while I was at the conference. Here was a group of about 400 people gathered to openly discuss the evil schemes of the U.S. government, whom they accuse of horrible atrocities in the service of establishing a police state. But if America really was a police state with such terrible secrets to protect, surely government thugs would have stormed the lecture halls and arrested many of those present, or would at the very least have conducted behind the scenes arrests and jailed the movement’s leaders. Yet even the most vocal leaders of the 9/11 Truth Movement are still going strong, and no one at the conference seemed very worried about government reprisals. This fact seemingly indicates that at some level, the conspiracy theorists themselves don’t really believe what they are saying.

Another reason for the appeal of 9/11 conspiracies is that they are easy to understand. As previously mentioned, most Americans did not know or care to know much about the Middle East until the events of 9/11 forced them to take notice. (The brilliant satirical newspaper The Onion poked fun at this fact with its article “Area Man Acts Like He’s Been Interested In Afghanistan All Along”).41 The great advantage of the 9/11 Truth Movement’s theories is that they don’t require you to know anything about the Middle East, or for that matter, to know anything significant about world history or politics. This points to another benefit of conspiracy theories — they are oddly comforting. Chaotic, threatening events are difficult to comprehend, and the steps we might take to protect ourselves are unclear. With conspiracy theory that focuses on a single human cause, the terrible randomness of life assumes an understandable order.

The great writer Thomas Pynchon memorably expressed this point in his novel Gravity’s Rainbow: “If there is something comforting — religious, if you want — about paranoia, there is still also anti-paranoia, where nothing is connected to anything, a condition not many of us can bear for long.”42 The promiscuity of conspiracy theories toward evidence thus becomes part of their appeal — they can link virtually any ideas of interest to the theorist into a meaningful whole. This point was illustrated nicely during the Q & A session following the conference screening of Rick Siegel’s Eyewitness: Hoboken. An attendee wanted to know what role the Freemasons played in the plot, and seemed very concerned that Siegel’s account had neglected them. After waffling on the answer for a few moments without appeasing his questioner, Siegel finally relented and said, “Sure, they’re involved.” And why not? With the standards of evidence used by conspiracy theorists, there is no reason why the Freemasons, the Bavarian Illuminati, or the Elders of Zion cannot also be involved in the 9/11 plot — it just depends on what you find the most solace in believing. As it turns out, some conspiracy theorists do throw one or more of these other parties into the mix, as a popular and bogus rumor that 4,000 Jews mysteriously failed to come to work on 9/11 shows.43

Solace is something all of us needed after the horrible events of 9/11, and each of us is entitled to a certain degree of freedom in its pursuit. However, there is no moral right to seek solace at the expense of truth, especially if the truth is precisely what we most need to avoid the mistakes of the past. Truth matters for its own sake, but it also matters because it is our only defense against the evils of those who cynically exploit truth claims to serve their own agendas. It is concern for the truth that leads us to criticize our own government when necessary, and to insist that others who claim to do so follow the same rigorous standards of evidence and argument. 9/11 was a powerful reminder of how precious and fragile human life and liberty are — the greatest possible rebuke to those who would live in service to delusions.

References & Notes
2005. “9/11: Debunking the Myths.” Popular Mechanics. March, 2005.
Heller, David. 2005. “Taking a Closer Look: Hard Science and the Collapse of the World Trade Center.” Garlic & Grass, Issue 6. Available at www.garlicandgrass.org/issue6/Dave_Heller.cfm
This is clearly visible in the PBS NOVA Documentary Why The Towers Fell.
2005. “9/11: Debunking the Myths.” Popular Mechanics. March, 2005.
Eager, Thomas and Musso, Christopher. 2001. “Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse: Science, Engineering and Speculation.” JOM, 53(12), 8–11.
Ibid.
Ibid.
Jones, Steven. 2006. “Why Indeed did the WTC Buildings Collapse?” Available at www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
A good discussion of this issue can be found at http://911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html
This claim can be found at http://wtc7.net/b7fires.html
“World Trade Center Task Force Interview: Richard Banaciski.” Interview conducted on December 6, 2001. Transcribed by Elisabeth F. Nason. Available at graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/
20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110253.PDF
Ibid.
www.loosechangeguide.com
“America Rebuilds,” PBS Home Video, ISBN 0-7806-4006-3, is available from shop.pbs.org/products/AREB901/
www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html
A discussion of the “pull it” phrase by professional demolition workers is at web.archive.org/web/ 20050327052408/http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/
911_my_own_review.htm#222
See “9/11 Revealed? A New Book Repeats False Con-spiracy Theories.” At usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Sep/16-241966.html
“World Trade Center Task Force Interview: Daniel Nigrois.” Interview conducted on October 24, 2001. The text of the interview is available at www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/ 20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/
Nigro_Daniel.txt
“World Trade Center Task Force Interview: Richard Banaciski.” Interview conducted on December 6, 2001. Transcribed by Elisabeth F. Nason. Available at graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/ 20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/
9110253.PDF
Read almost anything at www.prisonplanet.com for this idea
The FEMA report on WTC 7 is available at usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Sep/16-241966.html
Meyssan, Thierry. 2002. Pentagate. New York: USA Books.
www.loosechangeguide.com
The transcript: transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.35.html
2005. “9/11: Debunking the Myths.” Popular Mechanics. March, 2005.
transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.35.html
Ibid.
www.loosechangeguide.com
The claim that Flight 93 landed safely is at www.rense.com/general56/flfight.htm. The claim that it was shot by a missile can be found at www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/shanksville.htm
A description of the confusion between the planes is in Kropko, M.R. 2002. “September 11 Tension Vivid to Controller.” Associated Press, August 15, 2002. The story is also available online at www.enquirer.com/editions/2002/08/15/loc_sept_11_tension.html
2005. “9/11: Debunking the Myths.” Popular Mechanics. March, 2005.
One such claim can be found at 911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/
2005. “9/11: Debunking the Myths.” Popular Mechanics. March, 2005.
See “AMR Corp Issues 3Q’ 2001 Profit Warning.” Airline Industry Information, September 11, 2001. Available at www.highbeam.com/library/docFree.asp?DOCID=1G1:78127985. For a general contemporary assessment of the viability of airline industry in the months before 9/11, see Hamilton, Adam. 2001. “Plummeting Profits.” Zeal Speculation and Investment. June 22, 2001, available at www.zealllc.com/2001/plummet.htm
Schorow, Stephanie. 2002. “Independent Research.” Boston Herald. 5 September (Arts & Life). A sound recording of Kenney’s statement can be heard at www.snopes.com/rumors/sound/kenney.ram
Ibid.
This list is based on information in Strasser, Steven (ed.). 2004. The 9/11 Investigations: Staff Reports of the 9/11 Commission. New York: Public Affairs Books. More information about radical Islam can be found in Rashid, Ahmed. 2001. Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia. New York: Yale University Press.
This quote can be found in many sources, including Strasser, Steven (ed.). 2004. The 9/11 Investigations: Staff Reports of the 9/11 Commission. New York: Public Affairs Books.
Bamer, David. 2001. “Bin Laden: Yes, I Did It.” The Telegraph. November 11.
One source among many possible for this information is Alterman, Eric and Green, Mark. 2004. The Book on Bush: How George W. (Mis)leads America. New York: Penguin.
This hilarious article is at www.theonion.com/content/node/28079
Pynchon, Thomas. 1973. Gravity’s Rainbow. New York: Viking Press.
See, for instance, “Absent Without Leave” at the Urban Legends Reference Pages: www.snopes.com/rumors/israel.htm
In addition to the specific sources cited above, readers seeking responsible analysis of the claims of the 9/11 Truth Movement can use the following general sources:

www.snopes.com
The Urban Legends Reference Pages, containing entries about conspiracy claims such as the put options, the alleged early arrival of FEMA and the Pentagon attack. The forum also contains some intelligent discussion of conspiracy theories.
www.loosechangeguide.com
This is a viewer’s guide to the documentary “Loose Change,” which contains many of the conspiracy claims discussed in this article.
www.911myths.com
A great general source for all manner of conspiracy claims.

9/11 Conspiracies And Cons
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/09/08/911_conspiracies_and_cons.php

The Rove Campaign

Andrew Sullivan | September 11 2006

Next week, I'm informed via troubled White House sources, will see the full unveiling of Karl Rove's fall election strategy. He's intending to line up 9/11 families to accuse McCain, Warner and Graham of delaying justice for the perpetrators of that atrocity, because they want to uphold the ancient judicial traditions of the U.S. military and abide by the Constitution. He will use the families as an argument for legalizing torture, setting up kangaroo courts for military prisoners, and giving war crime impunity for his own aides and cronies. This is his "Hail Mary" move for November; it's brutally exploitative of 9/11; it's pure partisanship; and it's designed to enable an untrammeled executive. Decent Republicans, Independents and Democrats must do all they can to expose and resist this latest descent into political thuggery. If you need proof that this administration's first priority is not a humane and effective counter-terror strategy, but a brutal, exploitative path to retaining power at any price, you just got it.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/September2006/110906Rove.htm

Why in the world would they start this show with an excerpt about Flight 93?!?!?!

Live c-span link;

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

Edit: "Could be wrong, they did say calling for a new investigation at 1pm though"

National Press Club Speech
September 11 Terrorist Attacks
National Press Club, Luncheon Speech
Thomas H. Kean , National Cmsn. on Terrorist Attacks
Lee H. Hamilton , National Cmsn. on Terrorist Attacks
The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.

NBC anchor: WTC collapse planned"

"This was clearly -- the way the structure is collapsing -- this was the result of something that was planned. This is not, it's not accidental that the first tower just happened to collapse and then the second tower just happened to collapse in exactly the same way. How they accomplished this, we don't know. But clearly this is what happened." ... (more)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhDOq305oh0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fprisonplane...

Reading the positive comments here and at lc911.com is making me very eager to see it. I hope that if its half as good as the early buzz that those who spent a lot of time dissing Dylan here will come out and give him (and Jason) their props.

Everyone who can put together a polite email should take the time to send a letter of thanks to Amy Goodman for providing that forum. I know she's taken a beating from 911 Truthers for being a 'left gatekeeper' and for her half-contemptuous handling of David Ray Griffin, but she deserves our gratitude for letting the subject be discussed- particular on the 5 year anniversary show- before her audience. That she would allow this to happen is truly historic.

What is *really* surprising about this is how this debate is being framed at DemocracyNow.org. They're calling it an "EXCLUSIVE"! (Jeez- they could've had that EXCLUSIVE for the past year! ) What does it say that Goodman would frame the debate this way? That they KNOW it's going to be hugely popular?

BTW - the debate is online now... (here is the link). Off to listen.

Robert Scheer: Gaping Holes in the 9/11 Narrative
A Dig led by Robert Scheer

Five years out from the attacks, why do we still know so little about what really happened that day?
http://www.truthdig.com/dig/item/20060910_robert_scheer_holes_9_11/

I went to the rally yesterday at Cooper Union in NYC. It was really inspiring.

One thing is clear: This is a PEOPLE'S movement!!! There were all kinds of people there, young, old, black, brown, white, professional, non-professional. I was very happy to see that it wasn't just a bunch of 30-something white guys like me.

Thanks everyone for organizing it. I'm very sorry that I couldn't make the protest this morning. How is it going? How did it go?

Well, I haven't had a chance yet to watch or hear the Amy Goodman debate. But I see that Davin Colburn was dropped, right? It looks like Popular Mechanics is taking this seriously now, sending in some senior editors, rather than their twit intern. We've got them sweating, no doubt. Congrats, everyone!

9/11 Press for Truth press conference on CSPAN1 now

Check out this photo:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20060911/i/r1066002127.jpg

Right after this event 8am, there will be open lines

Flood the CSPAN lines with your comments:

202-737-0001 "Support Bush" - say you do to get on
202-737-0002 "Support Democrats" - say you do to get on
202-628-0205 - support others - you can get on no matter what

Terrorism: "The Power Of Nightmares"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sheldon-drobny/terrorism-the-power-of-_b_2...

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/where-was-osama-bin-laden-on-911/21262-2.html

New Delhi: It is not clear where al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had parked himself to watch the World Trade Centre crashing on 9/11, but just a day before he was in a Pakistani military hospital in Rawalpindi, it has emerged
...

Dz, where's the "Advertise here" link if people want to buy a blogad on the blogger dude? I found the google ads one but the blogad I don't see. Cus I was thinking sometime instead of just donating for the next ad, I could buy a blogad on the blogger for a great book like Barry Zwicker’s "Tower's of Deception" for example. As the dough still goes to you, and it promotes something else worthwhile simultaneously etc.

I've been watching some of the CNN online streaming video "9-11-01 As It Happened". It's 1pm PST, 4pm EST.

A few minutes ago, while one of the CNN anchors was talking about something, the video -- that was advertised as "The entire broadcast as originally aired, from a few minutes before news of the North tower impact was first shown on CNN, to midnight on 9/11" -- was immediately and unexpectedly CENSORED WITH THIS IMAGE FOR APPROXIMATELY 3 FULL MINUTES!

While that image was on the screen, there was audio of musical instrumentation dubbed over it. So, it was NOT the image simply placed over the video of CNN's streaming broadcast, with CNN's streaming broadcast audio still audible.

When the CNN's streaming broadcast resumed,  it was during the middle of a replay of the North tower collapse.

So, from during the anchor talking, to during the middle of a reply of the North tower collapse, there was 3 minutes censored. No video of it broadcast. No audio of it broadcast.

WHAT DID CNN HIDE DURING THOSE FEW MINUTES!

Great to see this on T.V.

They even highlighted the building in the video during the collapse.

I hope some people go "Hmmmm... that looks odd. How did the building fall strait down so fast?"

Did you just watch that Former Secretary of State, Lawrence Eagleburger segment?

WTF!

It wasn't even 6pm on 9/11, and he was already saying "attack Osama, Taliban, Afghanistan"!

Incredible.

sean hannity has been yelling in fear about us on his radio for like two hours

he's doing all the work for us!!

The stooges over at Crooks and Liars have cut the entire post about "9/11 Press for Truth". I guess they realized how hypocritical it made them look. May they rot in hell.

The stooges over at Crooks and Liars have cut the entire post about "9/11 Press for Truth". I guess they realized how hypocritical it made them look. May they rot in hell.

Here's a new one for you guys. Did anyone happen to watch the show about some volcanic eruption on the History Channel last night? My wife was watching it and they tried to compare the WTC collapse with a type of volcanic eruption called a "column collapse". It was quite humorous how one of the "experts" on the show said when he saw the collapse of the towers he immediately knew what caused the collapse. They did not go into detail in explaining how the tower collapse was like a volcanic eruption, which was odd. Basically, a column collapse is when a volcano starts to collapse due to the intense pressure produced by hot gasses erupting from the earth. As the mountain collapses the hot gasses creates an even larger opening causing more hot gasses to escape. Kind of like Mt. Saint Helens. Anyone see this? Seems to me they are getting a little desperate to explain these collapses. I guess we can add a 4th theory to the official story now.

also on Geraldo tonight:

Plus, were we lied to about the events of 9/11? At Large exposes the conspiracy theories that are sweeping our country.

gee, i wonder which side the jackass Geraldo is on?

It doesn't sound like it is going too well.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&fo...

Loose Change Final Cut might be the last great chance.

I saw Amy Goodman on Sat. at Bobfest in Baraboo, Wisc. and grilled her on her not supporting us 9-11 truthers! I gave her a DVD of What's the Truth? to watch and asked her to PLEASE have on David Ray Griffin. She told me to watch her Monday show on debate on Democracy Now. There were more 9-11 truthers there besides me, giving away DVD's! Most people there said they agreed with me about 9-11 being an inside job! Others talked with Amy too, I think. We MUST do more then ever before to reach out to ALL people and quickly! Pisses me off NO mention yesterday of our 9-11 truthers on ANY MSM news but doesn't surprise me! We MUST, MUST take back our media and NOW! For far too long, corporate interests have controlled the media! We need to demand people BOYCOTT ALL MSM and NOW, until they start reporting the REAL news and NOT fluff and not ONLY about truth about 9-11 but other issues as well! BOYCOTT ALL MSM NEWS AND NOW! When their money dries up maybe they will change their reporting! It is worth a shot!

Thank ypu very much from www.sernak.com