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Question For You Nico...

Nico, in your 9/11 Truthling Guide, under "UQ's", you address me, Kyle Hence, and a few others.

In it, you use colorful terms like, "bizarre, very dangerous species, parasites, limited hangouts, virus, truthling zombies, spook, idiots, and sucker."

The funny thing is Nico, the original "UQ's" as you like to call them, and the people that inspired me to become involved in the movement, are in fact, the family members themselves. The people who lost loved ones that day, and had questions as to how and why that happened.

Why do you disrespect the family members Nico with your venom?

Own new "Exile" at 911blogger.com

I decided not to 'interrupt' all other ongoing threads at 911blogger.com for a while. This blog here is therefore an easier way to reach out with updates of any kind.

http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001

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New Uk 9/11 Truth debate about "9/11 Video fakery"
Killtown banned from LC Forum
Complotdenkers/Daanspeak: Why the media ignores 9/11
Popular Mechanics invited to the National 9/11 Debate
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9/11-- the strange case of WTC videographer Kurt Sonnenfeld
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Former Giuliani Aide Is Found Strangled at Home, Police Say

Gold's alleged "disrespect"

Jon wrote:
"...the people that inspired me to become involved in the movement, are in fact, the family members themselves. The people who lost loved ones that day, and had questions as to how and why that happened.

Why do you disrespect the family members Nico with your venom?..."

Jon,

Kyle Hence blocked all physical evidence from the 9/11 Family Members for years, while we tried to forward valuable information to them. I therefore see no disrespect at all.

The limited hangout character of "unanswered questions" turned into a deceptive meme, which still continues under Jonathan Gold or Bob Bowman ("...the only truth is that we still don't have any answers...")

I was member in 2 huge 9/11 Family Member lists.
The one of Bill Doyle (unsubscribed in 2006) and i'm still in the list of AM Korotkin.

I also communicated with the Jersey Girls in a limited CClist for 3 years, together with Allan Duncan (ex-NJPD), Paul Thompson and Sander Hicks.

I communicated in person with Skyscraper Safety Group.
I communicated with Ellen Mariani.

I spoke several times with Bobby McIlvain, the family member you once interviewed and he told me 2 years before your interview that he believes, that 9/11 was an Inside Job but Hence insisted to him, he should not make this account public.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ErHfTQAvDnw

Noone of the 9/11 Family Members EVER accused me as disrespectful. They know me from several NIST- and 9/11 Panel events.

Valuable Information...

You mean like "no planes hit the WTC?"

The family members are the first ones with unanswered questions. Either include them in your list under "UQ's", or change your classification for me.

As long as you don't, you are disrespecting the family members.

your a peice of shit

your a peice of shit conspiracy theroist. those ppl died because theyre garbage and needed to be purged from the earth no one is a hero there theye fucking trash down with american THE POLICE STATE!

LOL

Nico you don't talk for me or for 99.9% of the movement. Take your disinfo someplace else!

Dem Bruce Lee Styles is also

Dem Bruce Lee Styles is also not talking for this movement.
He's spreading lies. Prove the disinfo.

Jon wrote: "...Either

Jon wrote:
"...Either include them in your list under "UQ's"..."

Why is it your business how i analyse 9/11 Truthlings?

The 9/11 family members cannot be categorized to one particular community. Some of them are praying the saudi line, some are gatekeepers, some support the official story of 9/11 and some say that 9/11 was an Inside Job.

The "UQ"s are pretty well suported by Jonathan Gold.
If you think that's your job, go ahead. I just pointed out, who is their most popular representive and that's you.
That includes also the typical limited hangout stuff.

You own blog at 911b proves it:

Jon Gold
http://www.911blogger.com/blog/7
currently filled with stuff on PressforTruth,
Sibel Edmonds, NORAD Response, Pakistan And 9/11

Actually...

Sibel Edmonds is not in Press For Truth. ;)

Oh, and...

"The "UQ"s are pretty well suported by Jonathan Gold."

"There are still so many QUESTIONS about Sept. 11 that the government has never ANSWERED."

"UQ's", as I just pointed out, include the family members.

what an unfunny joke

To the impartial reader..

Nico thinks planes didn’t hit the buildings; he thinks it was computer-generated images that kill all those people, nuff said.

Nico answer me this, what caused that explosion when the planes hit then? What caused all the debris to be hurled out in the direction the planes were travailing? What caused that explosion Nico? Can your brain handle that thing called reality, or are you going to ignore this can go back to “Looney Toons” land, literally.

"....what caused that

"....what caused that explosion when the planes hit then? ..."

When the allged aircraft hit the South Tower, internal explosives had been activated. Simple.

You live in an illusion, not me. Check your own reality.

OMG that's it?

OMG this is what I'm up against here? WTF is wrong with you Nico? Right ok here's footage of the south tower impact;

http://mixtureofsounds.com/wow/new_911_footage.wmv

Now are you ready to wake up from your disinfo dream Nico?

Here we go, when the plane hits the building the momentum
it carries with it translates into the direction of the impact. In that video the plane hits from the left, the debris is hurled through the building and out the other side to the right. If your idea that there was some kind of explosion in the building were true, the blast would be more or less asymmetrical, the force of the blast would be affected by random resistance of course. But it would dissipate more or less evenly. That is not the case with the reality as depicted in the video evidence. As the force of the impact produces an explosion that carries through the building with a greater emphasis on the right hand side, defined by the direction and force of the plane’s momentum. Furthermore an explosion of jet fuel inside the building would have to be generated by huge tanks of jet fuel, which would be impossible to plant and it would stink. These aren’t subtle demo charges concealed in specific areas, which trained sniffer dogs can detect; this is kerosene hydrocarbon fuel, which smells, a lot. There are literally millions of ways to prove something as impossible as this wrong, but I’m stopping here. If however you still don’t want to recognise how dumb and damaging all this is, I will repost this post every time I see you spreading nonsense, capeesh!

That’s of course considering your not disinfo, and here to continue to post crap regardless of it’s bs nature.

...

"It is impossible to wake a man who is feigning sleep" -- not me

yo bruce lee where did the

yo bruce lee
where did the tail of the 767 that we saw on tv go?
here's a photo of the wtc2 with a hole in it:
http://nineeleven2001.t35.com/images/newyork-2.html
but there's no section of the hole that corresponds with the giant tail. yet the tail disappeared without a trace. as did the wingtips. without a trace. as did the plastic nosecone.
how could the entire airplane disappear into the building through this small hole? was it really a 767? or did we only see a 767 on tv?

No-plane haters

No-plane haters LOVE to use the word "disinfo." If NPT is disinfo, fine. Just PROVE it. Otherwise your "disinfo" hyperbole is unsubstantiated and slanderous (i.e. lies).

For crying out loud!

WTF do you mean prove it dumbass GET A CLUE!! This isn’t the pentagon, we’re not talking about a few mixed reports here and there of this guy saw a plane, this guy saw a missile. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NY CITY!!! Thousands and thousands of people all seeing planes hit the buildings, ok that's proof for me jackass! Seriously get a f*cking clue, and then decide if whether or not you actually want to see Bush.Co in the stocks. Doesn’t seem like it to me, Christ this is ridiculous.

Dem Bruce, you might be a

Dem Bruce,

you might be a master of yelling and cursing on this forum,
but you are not able to respond to an argument at all.
You wouldn't be able to sell a bike to a sheeple.
People like you are useless.
It took us 4 years to argue pro evidence on controlled demolition against ignorants like you.

There is actually nothing productive at all from Dem.

On his own website he is linking to other MP3s.
On his blog here he's spreading outdated hangout drivel on Noam Chomsky, which is well known since 2001.

There is zero 9/11 research from Dem and he still continues with spreading his lies, that 1000s of witnesses saw a plane , furthermore still ignoring the "white elephant plane" which passed the crime scene.

He doesn't even live in NYC.

I do.

The witness reports strongly contradict each other in NYC.
In the 911Emergency Transcripts a complete floor of the North Tower (!) even claimed, that a helicopter crashed into it.

Particular witness accounts had been cherry-picked for the media.
All further information on that matter has been covered here:

http://911closeup.com/nico/witness_contradictions.html
9/11 WTC Aircraft 'Witnesses'

You know, PROVE your claim

Like a prosecuter has to do in a trial. The reason that you don't prove your claims is because you CAN'T prove your claims.

So please, with sugar on top, prove NPT is disinfo because if it is, I don't want to entertain NPT anymore.

Great Idea

Having your own blog is a great idea Nico & Co.

Thank you for the courtesy of segregating yourself from those among us who actually want to persuade people.

Just keep all of your NoPlane garbage in this space, so we can label it the nut house and show rookie truthers that we have the ability to discern science from lunacy.

I love when "anonymous" people attack people

What's your ID? You have a website/blog/forum where we can see your stuff?

Which is Better?

Which is better?

1) An anonymous poster contributing rational thoughts

OR

2) A named poster contributing truth-killing insanity

I am disappointed in you Killtown

Only cowards or frauds are

Only cowards or frauds are "anonymous".
Only friends can be 'disappointed' at each other.

You're not one of our friends.
Eat cyberdots and get lost... ;-

i disagree with the comment

i disagree with the comment that only cowards or frauds are anonymous.. i actually dont blame people from posting anonymously, it keeps them from having to worry about somebody researching their entire background.. and that unfortunately goes for both government officials, and certain members of the community.

you know, i was actually pondering what a site like this would be like if everyone was anonymous.. so no usernames at all.. it might actually be sort of interesting in that then everyone would judge the conversation based on the statements made instead of the perceptions of each other..

in any event, people are allowed to post anonymously here, and i dont think they are cowards for doing it.

Anonymous ID is fine. Totally anonymous is cowardly

People who are totally anonymous is totally cowardly. I'm not asking for his real name or #, I'd just like to know who is slandering me/my beliefs. An "anonymous" ID is fine.

ya, maybe just something

ya, maybe just something like Anonymous31337 :)

Call me whatever you want

Call me whatever you want.

All this name calling distracts from the task of getting the Truth out.

Stop obsessing over names and focus on the issues that will persuade people to realize the Truth about 9/11.

NPT is NOT a winning issue. Focus on the issues that are.

And, by the way, my disagreement with NPT in no way constitutes "slander."

"Just keep all of your NoPlane garbage"

Submitted by Anonymous (i.e. coward)

And, by the way, my disagreement with NPT in no way constitutes "slander."

--------------------------------

Oh yeah, calling NPT "garbage" is not slanderous.

Oh, but that was probably "another" anonymous person who said that, huh?

No, that is not

No, that is not slander.

Consult your attorney if you don't believe me.

Marketplace of Ideas

dz wrote:

you know, i was actually pondering what a site like this would be like if everyone was anonymous.. so no usernames at all.. it might actually be sort of interesting in that then everyone would judge the conversation based on the statements made instead of the perceptions of each other..

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Well said.

There is a tension between the competing needs for visibility and objectivity.

If we are truly a Truth movement it is the content of the written word, and the validity of the argument, that we are all focusing on.

I would be disappointed in you, but

it's kind of hard when you remain anonymous like a little coward. Step up to the plate and reveal your ID. Don't need your real name, just the ID you go by.

Only cowards or frauds

Only cowards or frauds are
Submitted by ewing2001 on Fri, 08/25/2006 - 7:44pm.
Only cowards or frauds are "anonymous".
Only friends can be 'disappointed' at each other.

You're not one of our friends.
Eat cyberdots and get lost... ;-

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I will try to reply point-by-point here:

1) COWARD - Classic ad hominem attack. Tell me, what am I afraid of? Is this some kind of a fight, or are we trying to cooperate and achieve a common good? If I am afraid of anything, it is that my peaceful resistance to the fascists that have overtaken our government will be used against me in any number of conceivable ways.

2) FRAUD - I just got called a fraud by Nico :)

3) FRIENDS/DISAPOINTMENT - I always thought Killtown was a reliable Truther. This NPT stuff has disappointed me. Nothing personal.

4) EAT CYBER DOTS - lol

The orwellian 9/11

The orwellian 9/11 truthlings are fighting against hard working 9/11 researchers since Day 1.
That included Hence, Judge, Schwarz, Ruppert, Levis, Kubiak and now it's Fetzer, Jones.

If you want to point fingers, then hold it at them.
They're feeding into the fascist elites, not us.

Meanmwhile also someone of the 9/11 perps are apparently got nervous about us and the latest Reynolds/Wood article.
Last night some yahoogroups and accounts got erased, my group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911InsideJobbers/
doesn't exist any longer.

Yahoo, another US Government front like Google/NSA continues to give us a hard time.
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?3223

"Anonymous" cowards are part of this doublethink system.

They will use it to celebrate again but at the end we will eat the same dirt because of their damn ignorance and brainwashed brain cells!

Have fun with Steven "Los Alamos" Jones and Co.

'Winston Smith' was never that happy as is now!

Honestly...

Honestly,

Please don't invoke George Orwell's 1984 in support of your disinformation.

My irony meter just exploded.

Trust me, I realize that this is basically a pointless waste of my time, and that I need to be focusing on activism instead of debating this nonsense.

The only problem is, I think there are a lot of rookie Truthers out there who will be turned off by this NPT distraction.

I just want the rational side of the debate to be heard, that is all. If you really wanted the movement to succeed, you would concede that NPT does not help us right now.

Nico I said there'd be reposts!

Nico I said there'd be reposts, answer it;

OMG this is what I'm up against here? WTF is wrong with you Nico? Right ok here's footage of the south tower impact;

http://mixtureofsounds.com/wow/new_911_footage.wmv

Now are you ready to wake up from your disinfo dream Nico?

Here we go, when the plane hits the building the momentum
it carries with it translates into the direction of the impact. In that video the plane hits from the left, the debris is hurled through the building and out the other side to the right. If your idea that there was some kind of explosion in the building were true, the blast would be more or less asymmetrical, the force of the blast would be affected by random resistance of course. But it would dissipate more or less evenly. That is not the case with the reality as depicted in the video evidence. As the force of the impact produces an explosion that carries through the building with a greater emphasis on the right hand side, defined by the direction and force of the plane’s momentum. Furthermore an explosion of jet fuel inside the building would have to be generated by huge tanks of jet fuel, which would be impossible to plant and it would stink. These aren’t subtle demo charges concealed in specific areas, which trained sniffer dogs can detect; this is kerosene hydrocarbon fuel, which smells, a lot. There are literally millions of ways to prove something as impossible as this wrong, but I’m stopping here. If however you still don’t want to recognise how dumb and damaging all this is, I will repost this post every time I see you spreading nonsense, capeesh!

That’s of course considering your not disinfo, and here to continue to post crap regardless of it’s bs nature.

"...here's footage of the

"...here's footage of the south tower impact;
http://mixtureofsounds.com/wow/new_911_footage.wmv

This isn't new footage at all and also wasn't shown live.
I showed it also at my presentation at ny911truth.org

This simulated flight path contradicts with the ABC7 live broadcast footage. The alleged aircraft would have arrived from the upper left corner, not from a straight right angle.

Furthermore its behavior contradicts also a few other NON-LIVE clips like the one where the aircraft silhouette is shaking and balking after passing the Woolworth Tower.

This footage you presented was officially filmed by Scott Myers. His bio below reveals a lot. Thanks for showing me, what an idiot you are. It helps me to re-fresh the evidence.
The footage doesn't show any crumbling walls,
http://911closeup.com/nico/secondhit_nocrumble_loop.swfhttp://911closeup...
no explosion at the outer side and a few other anomalies, violating physical laws.

http://www.911closeup.com/nico/911chron_timeline_nico.html
...
Pt.4- Scott "Myers" -the biggest TV hoaxer from 9/11 (9/12!)

[img]http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9530/scottmyers2nz.jpg[/img]

What did Scott Myers, one of the alleged "cameramen" really present to us?

or

(Note that the building in frame #12 is not damaged at all. Where is the "impact"?
Furthermore, after breaking other physical laws, once the alleged commercial aircraft made it through the aluminum and steel, did sheetrock and framing materials ripped it to shreds?)

Follow the aristea link...!

1)
Scott Myers "video" from Sep11th

http://home.comcast.net/~catqueen/new_pa1.jpg

2)
His spelling changed, but it's the same "photographer":
Towers' Strength Not Tested for a Fire, Inquiry Suggests
May 8, 2003 NY TIMES
http://www.mishalov.com/wtc_firetest.html
"...In a vivid illustration of how images of 9/11 have advanced the work, he showed how a sophisticated electronic analysis of videos that were shot by a photographer, Scott Meyers, revealed the structural convulsions of the south tower just after it was hit..."

3)
Here is his indirect NIST link, also mentioning his video footage of Sep11th:
http://tinyurl.com/awdw4
http://forums.ni.com/attachments/ni/JobSearch/150/3/20051019%20Scott%20M...
"...National Institutes of Standards and Technology: Desktop Laboratories office and residential loft were near the World Trade Centers; A tripod mounted video beginning shortly after the first impact was provided at no charge to the National Institutes of Safety and Technology (NIST)...
...The video record was used for analysis of building's structural failure.
http://nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_briefing_june2305.htm

4)
His old website, which links him as owner of DeskTop Laboratories
http://web.archive.org/web/20020722063620/http://desktoplabs.com/
Scott Myers DeskTop Laboratories 12 John Street DP12
is also relocated to
http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/index.html

5)
His clients:
http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/TVS%20aboutus.html
US Navy, AeroNav Labs

6)
More on Desktop Laboratories
http://forums.ni.com/attachments/ni/JobSearch/150/3/20051019%20Scott%20M...
Desktop Laboratories, New York
US Navy: 3D position and metal detection software and hardware for use by the Navy in landmine location and surface integrity studies of ship hulls. The hardware and software for this project made sure a technician scanned a complete area of interest, no missing grid portions, and took measurements of events in each grid to detect for landmines or surface changes. Client: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Bethesda, MD...

7)
He also worked also with/at Port Authority of NY & NJ
(same link above)

Military radar photo: No possible substitute (remote controlled, as claimed by many "9/11 researchers" or more logically, involved in any real time terrorist drill, ever arrived in NYC in time!)

8)
Suddenly he's also a "consultant" at NIST or someone with the same name
http://zing.ncsl.nist.gov/hfweb/proceedings/meyers-jones/
Software Development Consultant at NIST
Document Design for Effective Electronic Publication
Scott Meyers, Ph. D.
smeyers@aristeia.com
Please remember this aristeia-link, while continuing reading!!!
June 1999
His photo
http://www.aristeia.com/
http://www.aristeia.com/images/sdm-big.jpg

9)
Back to his function as Sep11th "camera man", Scott Myers (desktoplab) is working on "3D motion capture, graphing and trial management" since 1996
http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/3d/index3dPro.html
His pre-9/11 tower-"hit":
http://tinyurl.com/8zscp

11)
Same Myers:
Scott Myers, NIF senior mechanical engineer for Systems Integration on VR
http://www.deskeng.com/Articles/Cover-Story/See-It,-Feel-It,-Hear-It-200...
February 2005

12)
older reference:
Thu, 26 Jan 1995 10:39:23 -0500
Reply-To: Scott Myers
http://isb.ri.ccf.org/biomch-l/archives/biomch-l-1995-01/00115.html
Scott Myers
DeskTop Laboratories
12 John Street DP12
New York, NY

WIKIPEDIA reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Meyers
Scott Meyers, Ph. D.
"...Scott Meyers is the author of several books on object oriented programming and especially the C++ computer programming language. He holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Brown University..." wikipedia gives "his website" as
http://www.aristeia.com/

Same or not the same? Once again, a reference to Brown University:

http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2005/09.html
"...Scott Meyers is one of the world's foremost experts on C++ software development.
A programmer since 1972, he holds an M.S. in Computer Science from Stanford University and a Ph.D. from Brown University...."

But if go back again to
http://zing.ncsl.nist.gov/hfweb/proceedings/meyers-jones/index.html you will notice the same email:
Scott Meyers, Ph. D.
Software Development Consultant
smeyers@aristeia.com

On September 11th, 2001, teletubbie sheeples finally arrived in the 'matrix'.
They will tell you, that it's "us" who are telling the 'BS'.
Decide for yourself.

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What hit the towers

NO conventional planes hit the towers; however, they did use unconventional planes (stealth technology) but those planes, too, did not hit the towers.

It's their secret technology they want to keep hidden from us. That's why they are in such an uproar about "no planes."

I offered you the following link:
>
> Main site: http://www.orbwar.com/
>
> 1) http://www.orbwar.com/triangular-orbs.htm:
> Here's a triangular orb
>
> 2) http://www.orbwar.com/black-orbs.htm:
> Here's a black orb
>
> 3) http://www.orbwar.com/red-orbs.htm:
> Here's a red orb
>
> **************
>
> 4) http://www.orbwar.com/mysterious-white-orb.htm
> Here's a white orb refueling
>
> "White orbs and chemtrails have made their impact on
> history with their undeniable presence over both the world
> trade towers, WTC building #6 and WTC building #7 during the
> 9-11 attacks. Orbs and trails are also plain to see at the site
> of "Trinity" the first US nuclear test in 1945. The most
> mysterious thing about orbs is what they hide beneath
> their cloaking. They like to mimic a blinking star in
> broad daylight while at the same time they are protected
> from radar detection."
>
> a) 1st frame:
>
> White orbs frequent the atmosphere over the San Fernando Valley in
> Southern California. See the orb blinking video.
>
> b) 2nd frame:
>
> This orb was refueling over the Hollywood hills. Notice the
> direct comparison of the black refueling boom wings.
>
> c) 3rd frame:
>
> Ironically there was a blinking orb directly above WTC building
> #7 as it fell straight down.
>
> d) 4th frame:
>
> The mushroom cloud on the left shows building #6 collapsing
> with an orb above it before the two trade towers fell.
> ****************
>
> 5) http://www.orbwar.com/holographic-jet-orb-chemsprayer.htm
> Here's a holographic orb
>
> 6) http://www.orbwar.com/stealth-fighter-cloak.htm
> Here's a decloaking orb:
>
> First you see a white orb. Now move your cursor over it, and it
> turns into a black stealth fighter.
>
> 7) http://www.orbwar.com/holographic-cloaking-stealth-technology.htm:
> Here are the orb phases of stealth technology
>
> "Stealth technology has features that are not made
> available to public knowledge. It is clear from first hand
> witnessing the aircraft over Southern California that stealth
> fighters are capable of hovering in the sky for extended
> periods of time, forward holographic projection and
> spherical cloaking."
>
> 8) http://www.orbwar.com/orb-contrail-crossing.htm:
> Here's a blinking orb
>
> 9) http://www.orbwar.com/ufos-orbs-artificial-cloud.htm:
> Look at these three orbs hiding in the same cloud cover:
>
> (See what a nice cover chemtrails are? Sorry they are not flying
> in formation, but I will email him and see if he has any examples.)
>
> ****************
> Here are his photos of four UFO's attacking the WTC:
>
> 10) http://www.orbwar.com/ufo-photos-wtc-attack-9-11.htm
>
>> [September 11, 2001] Here are four different UFOs from the WTC
>> (world trade center) attacks that match exactly aircraft
>> that have been
>> sighted over Southern California since 9-11.
>
> a) The first frame:
>
> The object on the left was video taped on 9-11-2001
> darting over the world trade center seconds after the
> second tower was hit. The object on the right is a photograph
> of a B2 stealth bomber over Hollywood on New Years Day
> morning 2003.
>
> b) 2nd frame:
>
> The object on the left was video taped on 9-11-2001
> fleeing the world trade center within seconds of the
> second tower being hit. The object on the right is a holographic
> projection of an airplane produced by a cloaked stealth
> fighter from San Diego on July 28, 2002.
>
> ** Below is the link to the stealth fighter with the holographic
> projector he's talking about:
>
> http://www.orbwar.com/holographic-jet-orb-chemsprayer.htm
>
> c) 3rd frame:
>
> The object on the left was video taped on 9-11-2001 as it
> flashed above the world trade center building number seven
> as it collapsed (hours after the initial attacks were
> over) and is identical to the orb that flashed over
> building number six as it imploded. The object on the
> right was a stealth fighter a minute before it transformed
> into a white sphere, or orb.
>
> The object on the left was video taped on 9-11-2001
> darting over the world trade center seconds after the
> second tower was hit. The object on the right is a photograph
> of a B2 stealth bomber over Hollywood on New Years Day
> morning 2003.
>
> d) 4th frame:
>
> The object on the left was photographed on 9-11-2001
> immediately above the second world trade center building
> that was attacked. The object on the right was one of a pair
> of black orbs sighted over Hollywood.
>
> e) 6th frame - a bit of irony or a "touch of the occult" if you wish.
>
> This plaque is located on one of the street facing walls
> of the Bush Towers in New York City near Times Square. It
> says "BY THE CORPORATION OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK 1857.
> HONOR THE BRAVE"
>
> f) 5th frame:
>
> Notice the chemtrail upwind of the smoking WTC towers on 9-11
> [hover over picture for the non-enhanced version].
>
> 11) Here's the non-enhanced version:
>
> (http://www.orbwar.com/wtc-chemtrails.htm
>
> a) 1st frame:
>
> The image below has been enhanced to bring out detail,
> hover over to see the original.
>
> b) 2nd frame:
>
> Two obvious chemtrails from the 9-11 WTC attack.
>
> c) 3rd frame:
>
> There was only one chemtrail at the world trade center on "Black
> Tuesday."
>
> d) 4th frame:
>
> Is it called "black Tuesday" referring to secrecy?
>
> e) 5th frame:
>
> People can't help but watch, but did they really see?
>
> f) 6th frame:
>
> At the top left corner of the photo you can barely see a second
> chemtrail.
>
> **************************
> http://www.orbwar.com/missile-defense-test-video.htm:
> Here is a UFO in a missile attack
>
> http://www.orbwar.com/rocket-cloud-rainbow-colors-time-lapse.htm
> Here's a picture of the rocket plume time lapse
>
> http://www.orbwar.com/seeker-ufo-video-footage.htm
> They even have a "seeker" UFO
>
> http://www.orbwar.com/kill-vehicle-ufo-sighting.htm
> Here's a "kill vehicle" UFO
>
> Note he mentions a seeker UFO and a EKV/UFO. So what is EKV? Ask Raytheon:
>
> http://www.raytheon.com/products/ekv/
>
> "The Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle (EKV) is the intercept component of
> the Ground Based Interceptor (GBI), the weapon element of the
> Ground-based Midcourse Defense System. Its mission in the defense of
> the nation is to engage high-speed ballistic missile warheads in
> the midcourse phase of flight and to destroy them using only the
> force of impact, or hit-to-kill.
>
> EKV consists of an infrared seeker in a flight package used to
> detect and discriminate the incoming warhead from other objects. The
> EKV also has its own propulsion, communications link,
> discrimination algorithms, guidance and control system and
> computers to support target selection and intercept."
> **********

That's not an answer Nico!

That's not an answer Nico, that’s you telling me who apparently filmed it. Answer this;

Here we go, when the plane hits the building the momentum
it carries with it translates into the direction of the impact. In that video the plane hits from the left, the debris is hurled through the building and out the other side to the right. If your idea that there was some kind of explosion in the building were true, the blast would be more or less asymmetrical, the force of the blast would be affected by random resistance of course. But it would dissipate more or less evenly. That is not the case with the reality as depicted in the video evidence. As the force of the impact produces an explosion that carries through the building with a greater emphasis on the right hand side, defined by the direction and force of the plane’s momentum. Furthermore an explosion of jet fuel inside the building would have to be generated by huge tanks of jet fuel, which would be impossible to plant and it would stink. These aren’t subtle demo charges concealed in specific areas, which trained sniffer dogs can detect; this is kerosene hydrocarbon fuel, which smells, a lot.

Dem wrote: "...when the

Dem wrote:

"...when the plane hits the building the momentum
it carries with it translates into the direction of the impact...."
There is no crumbling of the walls. Are you blind?

"...In that video the plane hits from the left..."
But according to the WABC7 live footage it couldn't have come from *this left direction. You ignored this all over again.

"...the debris is hurled through the building and out the other side to the right...."
Which comes from internal explosives.

"...the blast would be more or less asymmetrical, the force of the blast would be affected by random resistance of course..."
I think you have to look your resistance theory again.
The blast is directed by the positions of the explosives.

"...Furthermore an explosion of jet fuel inside the building would have to be generated by huge tanks of jet fuel..."
I never claimed that jet fuel was used.
As a matter of fact, the color of the explosion does not point on JP4 or JP8 and the fire does INDEED dissipate too quickly for jet fuel. Therefore there was none. No jet fuel, no plane.

"...which trained sniffer dogs can detect..."
Not to play devil's advocate for you now, but you have no clue about ANY 9/11 research. All sniffer dogs had been removed a week earlier in advance, very often pointed out by controlled demolition researchers and widely reported at Killtown's smoking gun list.

Possibly also because of planting the final explosives including those Prof. Jones doesn't want to talk about which forced the pulverization of the Towers.

LOL Pitiful

I really feel sry for you Nico, you’re a hopeless case it seems.

“quot;...when the plane hits the building the momentum it carries with it translates into the direction of the impact....quot;

Nico: There is no crumbling of the walls. Are you blind?

Crumbling of walls? The walls are being blown out as the jet tanks in the wings and elsewhere explode. WTF do you mean "There is no crumbling of the walls"?

"...In that video the plane hits from the left..."

Nico: But according to the WABC7 live footage it couldn't have come from *this left direction. You ignored this all over again.

I don't give a shit about "WABC7", the plane is coming from the left hand side from the perspective that the video was taken.

"...the debris is hurled through the building and out the other side to the right...."

Nico: Which comes from internal explosives.

Your logic is utterly mind-boggling, these "explosives" that you imagine would have been stationary. And so the martial that they displace would have travelled at the same speed, and over a similar predictable distance. In reality the plane parts travelling at 500mph-plus crash through the building, and maintain a certain degree of that initial Kinetic momentum. As you can see here in an illustration that I’ve just made for you;

http://xs305.xs.to/xs305/06346/Kinetic.jpg

Unless what you’re imagining is that the A-Team’s evil twins got to work, and kitted out the town towers with something that would launch debris at a faster rate then the expanding fireball. And direct it out of the opposite side of the building from where the plane enters.

"...Furthermore an explosion of jet fuel inside the building would have to be generated by huge tanks of jet fuel..."

Nico: I never claimed that jet fuel was used.
As a matter of fact, the color of the explosion does not point on JP4 or JP8 and the fire does INDEED dissipate too quickly for jet fuel. Therefore there was none. No jet fuel, no plane.

Total insanity, the behaviour of the fireball is entirely in keeping with jet fuel, from the fast yellow to orange dissipation of heat, to the fast developing black smoke.

"...which trained sniffer dogs can detect..."

Nico: Not to play devil's advocate for you now, but you have no clue about ANY 9/11 research. All sniffer dogs had been removed a week earlier in advance, very often pointed out by controlled demolition researchers and widely reported at Killtown's smoking gun list.

Laughable, I know all about the sniffer dogs being called of assclown.

Finally, if you look at the initial impact area for both buildings you will see that what’s produced is initially a greyish cloud that eventually gives way to an orange fireball;

http://xs305.xs.to/xs305/06346/impact.jpg

The greyish colouration can only be caused by smashed building mixing with the explosion of the jet fuel. The rest of the explosion doesn’t have this appearance because the fuel hasn’t got as much smashed concrete ect to mix with. Thus proving that something impacted the side of the building creating that initially displaced material.

I'm talking about the impact

I'm talking about the impact side, you blind ignorant:
http://911closeup.com/nico/secondhit_nocrumble_loop.swf

The walls at the side of the impact are NOT crumbling.
All other sides for sure explode from the internal explosives. But the point is that the side, which was attacked by the 'cartoon CGI' did not react.
Furthermore *this aircraft silhouette melted into this building like it was made out of butter.
No resistance, no wings breaking apart, nothing.

Only roadrunners in cartoons can do that
and that's wht Morgan Reynolds had him in his excellent article.

"...I don't give a shit about "WABC7", the plane is coming from the left hand side from the perspective that the video was taken...."

That's why you're such an ignorant.
This aircraft couldn't have come the "left hand side" from that corner, but the OPPOSITE corner and with no linear simulated flight path but a diagonal.

That's what all planehuggers do.
They do not compare the footage, they do not compare the position of the towers and they're too stupid to read maps...

Don't even worry to jump on this.
I have 2 footage comparisons with Towers of same size, where the size of the CGI's does not match at all.
We have tons of evidence and you're just desperately try to come up with some junk science and distract with the fireball explosion.
This has ZERO to do with the evidence on 9/11 TV fakery.

You're a victim of the "Bilkers" or maybe his best friend anyway :)
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/911truthlings.html

"...Your logic is utterly mind-boggling, these "explosives" that you imagine would have been stationary...."

So explosives for the aircraft are not allowed to be stationairy but the explosives for the controlled demolition are allowed to be?
What kind of idiotic logic is that supposed to be??

"...In reality the plane parts travelling at 500mph-plus crash through the building..."

There isn't even a clear number for that claim.
Reports conflict about incoming speed and also the footage contradicts with incoming speeds.

"...the behaviour of the fireball is entirely in keeping with jet fuel.."

Sorry to disappoint you, but the first live broadcast footage reveals no "fast yellow", but a bright white!
Same fireball color was also shown at the Pentagon btw. which also was an indicator for no plane/no jet fuel.

Ah well you're a nut bag

Ah well you're a nut bag, not much I can do to change that I'm afraid, sry lol.

9/11 Bloglines (08/26)

http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001
August 26, 2006

LC possibly premieres on History Channel Australia
Wood/Zebuhr: Strange Coincidence
Spooked: Yet Another Plane Crash Leaves Recognizable Debris and Bodies
Truthdi's Weekly Video Roundup: Bush no Iraq 9/11 link
Moose Change -Satire/Parody
9/11 anniversary- 2 events in New England
Lincoln Tribune about Barrett 9/11 "Nonsense"
videos.caught-on-video.com: controlled demolition
erikg.codepoet.no: Were explosives used to bring down the towers?
Jim Fetzer Interviews Structural Engineer Charles Pegelow
New Book: "9/11 and American Empire"
DemBruce continues with rabid planehugging
Lets Crash The Gate Keeper's 911 Party
Video: Building the World Trade Center
LC Forum members divided on Jones after Reynolds/Wood article