AE911Truth at NIST: “Dr. Sunder: come clean with the American people”
ae911truth Mon, 10/19/2009 - 1:02pm
New Video footage from AE911Truth at NIST by videographer/editor Mike Shea. Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, visits the National Institute of Standards and Technology after NIST's lead investigator for the World Trade Center disaster. Shyam Sunder, declines to meet with him. Gage hand-delivers a letter written to Dr. Sunder that raises serious objections to the official explanations for the destruction of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11. He is accompanied by AE911Truth members Matt Skarlatos and David Slesinger.
See video, Richard Gage, AIA, of AE911Truth visits NIST 7/20/09 here.
A PDF of the letter delivered to Dr. Sunder is here.
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Nice! But a Photocopied Letter?
Very nice!
I just wish they could have left him a letter that wasn't poorly photocopied, as it seems less professional. Why not an original?
Even so, keep up the good work!
Version b
Is the pdf link above (Letter_to_Shyam_Sunder_-_7-20-09a.pdf) an older version?
The bullet points on the first page are listed as 1a-d but there is no point 2, and the page number font is different too.
I agree
Sunder now has a talking point against AE911T. The motivation however, was superb!
Come on people, public opinion matters, don't forget that. You have to look and act better than they do, or we lose.
I doubt Sunder ever got off his ass to get the mail.
But the dude in the back looked surprised!
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Impressive work!
Impressive work Mr. Gage. Articulate, professional, comprehensive, detailed, focused, imperative, forward but not aggressive, most importantly, attempting to reach out.
I have sympathy for Mr. Sunder and his colleagues. An appeal such as this must surely tug at their conscience, or at a minimum, prick their professional pride.
I concur
Except for the sympathy part. The only men I have sympathy for is those who choose to speak truth to power at the expense of their private lives and careers. Sunder is no such man, but a very intelligent sociopathic pathological liar and a stooge. Richard is reaching out to him symbolically only. Sunder will never concede.
"Leader follows leader from bad to worse, as though by a malign law of nature. One ruler, evil or stupid or violent, breeds another more evil or stupid or violent." — Liz McAlister
Sympathy? No!
I feel outrage. I hope it more than tugs on their conscience! They deserve ................ well I won't say......cause I wouldn't want to break any blog rules.
Contact Department of Commerce
NIST is under the Department of Commerce, headed now by Secretary Gary Locke. Let's launch a campaign demanding redress for the fraudulant NIST investigation into WTC 7. Tell them that the NIST report is contradicted by over 900 Architects and Engineers and several scientific studies, including the FEMA report, which found "Swiss Cheese Steel" and intragranular melting of steel...... The RJ Lee study which found that temperatures had been reached "at which lead would have undergone vaporization." --meaning 3,180 degrees F. ..... US Geological Survey, which besides finding iron particles in the dust, they found that molybdenum had been melted. (which would require temperatures of 4, 753 degrees F.) .... the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal study which found thermitic material in the dust..... And NIST's own admission of free-fall speed for 2.4 seconds.
http://commerce.gov/Contact_Us/index.htm
Phone: (202) 482-2000
Email Secretary Locke: TheSec@doc.gov
Mail:
US Department of Commerce
1401 Constitution Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20230
*All of the above preferably. For a good summation of the best points in DRG's book on this subject:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15201
I'm going to print and mail in a large envelope along with a personal cover letter. I'll call and email too. Let's force these people to restore science to its proper place.
'come clean' ?
It's difficult to gauge something like this. At the very least, the very least, Dr. Sunder, and the lead scientists and researchers at NIST are accomplices to the crime. You can't, in any way, say they weren't aware of what they were doing. If they weren't otherwise involved, they, in the very least, are tantamount to being the drivers of the getaway car.
However, with their practically unique knowledge of nano-thermite and its production, it's hard not to suspect a more intricate if not more convoluted involvement.
But I appreciate Richard Gage's approach and I hope it pays dividends. But 'come clean'? Really, you're talking to the criminals here. There's really no other way to frame their involvement. Correct me if I'm wrong. A realistic approach is in order.
I agree with the other comments. I'd ignore these fellows and confront or summons a wider circle of officials. Let's solve this crime. We know, at the very least, that these fellows are guilty.
If
the kindest thing you can say about the scientists at NIST is that they drive the getaway car, then what must we call the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Rummy at the Pentagon? Tra####s? Wake up you patriots who have taken the Oath. I do agree though, Richard is an awesome, gutsy guy.
Well done Mr. Gage.
You stand on solid truth. Sunder knows the truth and has chosen to cover it up.
NIST's reports on WTC 1, WTC 2 and WTC 7 impugn their professional and scientific credibility.
Many of you may not have heard about the collapse of a tent-like structure used as a practice facility by the Dallas Cowboys. It happened earlier this year. Now NIST has assessed the collapse and credits a series of design failures. They have urged retrofit modifications immediately for all similar structures used elsewhere across the country.
Here is a link to the story in the Dallas Morning News:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/100709...
I assume there will be lawsuits since one person has been paralyzed as a result of the collapse.
Would it be advantageous for AE 911 Truth to offer assistance to the defendants in those lawsuits? You could then speak to the credibility of NIST and illustrate their bogus report on what happened at the WTC. This could get some press and get the facts into the official record. I don't know if this would be advantageous or not, so I am throwing it out there for consideration by the group.
What do you think?
Rob, This is a very clever maneuver! Good brainstorming.
"It is you who are the torch-bearers with respect to that truth.... ...Steel your spines. Inspire your children. Then when the moment is right, rise again...." W PEPPER
How about a "friend of the court" brief?
Amicus curiae
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Amicus curiae or amicus curiæ (plural amici curiae or amici curiæ respectively) is a legal Latin phrase, literally translated as "friend of the court", that refers to someone, not a party to a case, who volunteers to offer information on a point of law or some other aspect of the case to assist the court in deciding a matter before it. The information may be a legal opinion in the form of a brief, a testimony that has not been solicited by any of the parties, or a learned treatise on a matter that bears on the case. The decision whether to admit the information lies with the discretion of the court.
I like it.
You clearly know more about court procedures than I do. Amicus curiae. Thanks zmzmzm for showing me this. This could be just the thing. I appreciate your contribution. Let's see if anyone else has something to add.
focus on NIST...
Something that may seem obvious is dawning on me. Regarding when I talk to people about the collapse of the buildings, which is a very tough sell. Shouldn't we be focusing like a laser on the NIST reports in our personal efforts when talking to people? When people shoot me down when I go over the controlled demolition basics, they usually say crazy things like 'pancake' or stuff like the molten metal was created by the enormous kinetic energy.
If I instead start with a conversation about the NIST report maybe I'll have much better luck. I'm starting with controlled demolition which isn't working. After watching this video, it has me rethinking my strategy... thoughts?
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Are you listening to Truth Rock? What would the 60's have been without music? Make music for the movement...
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I have had tremendous success talking about controlled demo
My bullhorning speech at street actions:
(I can see people stop what they are doing and listen as I progress through my statements. I can see the transition their thoughts are going through - written all over their faces, and the fact that they are unaware of their mouths hanging open)
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Have you heard of Building 7?
Why haven't you heard of Building 7?
Your television is hiding Building 7 from you. You will never see Building 7 on TV. Your television is hiding Building 7 from you.
They know that once you see Building 7 coming down, then you will know that 9-11 was an inside job.
Building 7 is the third tower that came down on 9-11. 47 stories tall, it fell straight down in 6 and a half seconds. (I use my hand in a horizontal position, to demonstrate the top of the building moving straight down). You've seen it before, you know what it is, it's an obvious controlled demolition. Controlled demolitions take weeks to months of advanced preparation.
Watch footage of the Twin Towers coming down. They were exploding (I use my hands to demonstrate the banana peel explosions). They weren't collapsing. They were exploding. It's obvious.
How can 110 story towers turn themselves into powder in 10 seconds? Try clapping your hands 110 times in 10 seconds. Go ahead, try to cheat (I demonstrate tapping the palm of one hand with the fingers of my other hand as quickly as I can). You will never make it up to 50, yet you are being asked to believe that 110 story towers turned themselves into powder in 10 seconds - both in the exact same way.
The Twin Towers didn't collapse, they exploded in controlled demolitions. Did you see 110 stories stacked on top of each other? No, you saw powder, several inches thick spread out over 75 acres.
There is too much to tell you here, and that's why we ask that you go home and get online and look up Building 7. Start there.
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I have over 90% estimated success with this speech. I can usually get it out during one red light cycle without rushing. I don't yell. I just calmly state this through a bullhorn, putting expressive sincere inflections in the appropriate spots. I don't own the copyright on these words ;), so feel free to use them as your own.
With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org
brilliant
Very creative.
Thank you.
There is another line that I always say but I can't believe I forgot to write it in.
Almost 1000 (Actually I use a more assertive way to say it, like OVER 900) architects and engineers are trying to tell the American people that we are being lied to. They tell us that all three towers came down in controlled demolition
and when someone sticks out their middle finger, I say with a great big smile
Sir, in the red pickup truck, take that finger and use it on your keyboard when you get home to look up Building 7
and when a city bus drives by
Building 7, Building 7, Building 7, Building 7...
and when a school bus goes by
Children, when you get home, ask your parents "What is Building 7?"
This is so much fun!
With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org
thanks
Thanks Bruno, I got some new material to use. I can't use this approach with colleagues though. For street action definitely the way to go! I can't clap that fast
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yeah, bruno's the master street bullhorn educator
I think you have perfected the art of street education Bruno. Breaking 9/11 treason down to something you can communicate during a red light that will get folx interested and towards the bottom of the operation.
Truthrock, in terms of the NIST report, that is great way to go one on one with someone who thinks of themselves as educated and not likely to be fooled.
1) NIST manipulated blackbox software simulator and raw data until they were able to initiate collapse
2) that's all they did with 10,000 pages is describe some hypothetical collapse initiation sequence, and then completely ignored the actual physical manifestation of the destruction sequence, which is like saying "and then magic happened."
3) NIST did not even have the alleged "bi-partisan" make-up of the 9/11 Commission, since NIST was a part of the Bush administration's Commerce Department. Who believes the Bush administration, especially around issues of science?
4) Circular logic of not looking for evidence of explosives because there was no evidence of explosives
5) Top ten connections between NIST and Nanothermite
“Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.” –Plato
"We must speak the truth about terror." --George W. Bush
Yes, Yes, Yes! You've got it!
KISS - Could not be better. :-)
Short sentences, repetition, not to many facts.
Leave a little space to let each one sink in a little before going to the next.
Speak slowly and clearly.
It's a bullhorn, no need to shout. People would rather be spoken to than shouted at.
This can be fun despite the seriousness of the topic.