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CNN: "...we may not have been told the truth..."


CNN's Wolf Blitzer and Jack Cafferty tag-teamed on the VF piece and FAA audio clips yesterdy (8/2/2006), thanks Mike for sending these in (if somebody has the Tucker Carlson bit from last night send it in.)

Wolf Blitzer lead-in:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=149

Jack Cafferty WMV | MP4 Format:
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=148

"There are indications that we may not have been told the truth about what happened on September 11th, 2001." - Jack Cafferty.

The Limited Hangout begins. If you missed Paul Thompson on Randi Rhodes yesterday, I highly recommend giving it a listen.

Randi Rhodes Interviews Paul Thompson - 2MB MP3

My gut tells me 9/11 wasn't

My gut tells me 9/11 wasn't an inside job.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/8/3/5856/82119

I felt I should repost it since I posted it so early before. Is that wrong?

My gut tells me 9/11

My gut tells me 9/11 definitely was an inside job. WTC 7 hat such thick steel beams (watch 'Painful Questions' by Eric Hufschmidt) that's it's impossible that those fires and that bit of damage from falling debris of the towers could have caused a near instantaneous, straight-downward collapse.
WTC 7 was practically built like bunker.

The last one was the most

The last one was the most interesting.

"It simply means that Congress and you, Jack, are all being paid by corporate America to fake indignation about things that nobody will do anything about."
James
Newton, Mo.

Jack Cafferty: Wolf...

Check out the story in

Check out the story in today's New York Post entitled "ONE IN 3 AMERICANS SAY U.S. AIDED 9/11"

Source:
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/one_in_3_americans_say_u_s__aide...

I often think about Mineta's

I often think about Mineta's testimony and who that young military guy was and how he's living with himself right now. Probably shipped him off to the front lines in Iraq.

Nope, you promote them! You

Nope, you promote them!

You give them a personal stake in the lie to insure secrecy.

Channing, did you even look

Channing, did you even look at the link?

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/8/3/5856/82119

Cincy... Thanks for posting

Cincy...

Thanks for posting the NYP article. That's a pretty good percentage considering the media blackout on the 9/11 issue don't you think?

"Cincy... Thanks for posting

"Cincy...

Thanks for posting the NYP article. That's a pretty good percentage considering the media blackout on the 9/11 issue don't you think?"

Thank yourselves for that. It is ONLY because of our efforts that people question what happened that day.

"Thanks for posting the NYP

"Thanks for posting the NYP article. That's a pretty good percentage considering the media blackout on the 9/11 issue don't you think?"

Imagine the number of people who are ashamed or afraid to admit it for fear that the NSA is listening.

Need help guys -- Got a

Need help guys --

Got a newbie who is asking me questions that I think you guys could handle better than I. Here are the main 3:

What would the U.S. government have to gain by staging the 9/11 attacks?

How can the Bush administration simultaneously be comprised of evil geniuses (faking the 9/11 attacks) and bumbling idiots (the war in Iraq)?

What do you hope to accomplish by indulging in these conspiracy theories? Are you aiming to satisfy your own curiosity? Are you wanting to start a revolution and overthrow the government?

I am so ecstatic about

I am so ecstatic about moving into the Incompetence Theorists stage. Attention all honored company: redouble efforts! Onward!

"Got a newbie who is asking

"Got a newbie who is asking me questions that I think you guys could handle better than I. Here are the main 3:"

Tell the newby to investigate it himself and when he gets to the truth to do what his heart tells him to do.

Anybody see mention of the

Anybody see mention of the fact that the "Conspiracy Theory" regarding Flight 93 being shot down has been "debunked" because "the tapes show Norad could never have been in the position to do so."

The tapes DO NOT account for:

Flight 93 apparently starts to break up before it crashes, because debris is found very far away from the crash site. [Philadelphia Daily News, 11/15/2001] The plane is generally obliterated upon landing, except for one half-ton piece of engine found some distance away. Some reports indicate that the engine piece was found over a mile away. [Independent, 8/13/2002] The FBI reportedly acknowledges that this piece was found “a considerable distance” from the crash site. [Philadelphia Daily News, 11/15/2001] Later, the FBI will cordon off a three-mile wide area around the crash, as well as another area six to eight miles from the initial crash site. [CNN, 9/13/2001] One story calls what happened to this engine “intriguing, because the heat-seeking, air-to-air Sidewinder missiles aboard an F-16 would likely target one of the Boeing 757’s two large engines.” [Philadelphia Daily News, 11/15/2001] Smaller debris fields are also found two, three, and eight miles away from the main crash site. [Independent, 8/13/2002; Mirror, 9/13/2002] Eight miles away, local media quote residents speaking of a second plane in the area and burning debris falling from the sky. [Reuters, 9/13/2001] Residents outside Shanksville reported “discovering clothing, books, papers, and what appeared to be human remains. Some residents said they collected bags-full of items to be turned over to investigators. Others reported what appeared to be crash debris floating in Indian Lake, nearly six miles from the immediate crash scene. Workers at Indian Lake Marina said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the explosion...” [Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 9/13/2001] Moments after the crash, Carol Delasko initially thinks someone had blown up a boat on Indian Lake: “It just looked like confetti raining down all over the air above the lake.” [Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 9/14/2001] Investigators say that far-off wreckage “probably was spread by the cloud created when the plane crashed and dispersed by a ten mph southeasterly wind.” [News Journal (Wilmington, DE), 9/16/2001] However, much of the wreckage is found sooner than that wind could have carried it, and not always southeast.

From that NYP article:

From that NYP article:

Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.

Yeah! Right. :-:

Sorry, but a plane crashing

Sorry, but a plane crashing into the ground, would not disperse wreckage 8 miles away.

I'm so confused at this

I'm so confused at this point... As Paul Thompson said, this is the 7th version we've been told.

Some of the biggest news of

Some of the biggest news of the day yesterday had to do with the confirmation of "inputs" or "injects" on radar screens, and the confirmation of confusion brought on by the Wargames.

Wargames which NOBODY will

Wargames which NOBODY will talk about.

I think it's Myers that said

I think it's Myers that said some time ago that Wargames would have help the response to the highjacking since everyone would have been ready and in position to operate... BS.

itsaputon, Sarcasm.

itsaputon,

Sarcasm. Sometimes it just doesn't transmit on the 'net.

;0

Both of those clips were

Both of those clips were disappointing. for one it heavily promotes the ignorance concept. we need someone to do a story on the Aptitude of the average NORAD commander/personel as well as the average FAA personel.

1.) What are the odds that a person whose vast majority of thier job involve "handling" a hijacking situation, forgets EVERYTHING when a hijacking takes place?

2.) what are the odds that this happens to more than two people?

3.) what are the odds of this same "ignorance" happening to TWO agencies FULL with people.

May I add that these people, up to this point, had to have successes in "non-hijacking" events, where they peformed adequately. YET on the most important day in the world TWO agencies FULL with comptent people could not get anything right?

LOL check this; "The Dem

LOL check this;

"The Dem Bruise Lie Style people need a sane society. They are in the SAME MINDSPACE as the RUnsfelds and PATRIOT-IDIOTS and the other US-black-n-white thinkers who think they have the truth in their pockets... the trouble is... the more one dogmatises oneslef.. in the end one actually HAS to believe once own BS... just in order to not loose face.

I can't wait for LOOSE CHANGE III ...
I heard the elves sing that they are working hard on a noplane segment and a visualization of the Marcus Icke evidence (that no-body here understands) and nobody here took care to read and grasp... instead the PROPHETS of NO-PLANE HATE, the GUARDIANS OF THE MOVEMENT have nothing but childish paroles ... and ad hominem attacks.

The fact THAT so many "normal-american-pie" arseholes HATE the NO PLANE evidence... that fact makes me certain that it is indeed true.
u2r2h | Homepage | 08.02.06 - 11:01 pm | # "

^ I thought this guy was cool, ahh well. If it turns out that this "noplanes" idea was right then I still won't feel it was a good idea to attach it to the credible proven facts like Thermate etc. Because simply, even if there where 100% certifiable proof that flying pigs actually hit the towers, I certainly wouldnÂ’t go around preaching it because the idea that 9/11 was an inside job is wild enough already. We now have proof that Thermate was used on the towers, which is still wild but at least credible and convincing, along with WTC7's collapse etc. Why promote something that sound SO wild that it could jeopardize everything for the sake of wanting "to know exactly what happened". When that chance for such questions in an actual trial where for once they might be taken seriously, can only realistically be paved way for by the certifiable facts like Thermate etc. But u2r2h who listens to elves, "I heard the elves sing" and like Nico who thinks Randi Rhodes is male, "Instead noone corrects other hangouter at Randi Rhodes today on his negligence/LIHOP spin" probably won't ever get this concept of a little known thing necessary if something to be taken seriously, called "credibility". Because their to busy polarising people, burning bridges and attacking those who once thought they (u2r2h) actually had a brain.

u2r2h, send Chomsky your "no plane" research and give him a good excuse to keep believing in "blowback".

itsaputon: I really do hope

itsaputon:

I really do hope the NSA is "listening"..... may they lean something valuable, or choke on it!

TNF:

If you're thinking of General Myers, yes I do belive he said something to that effect. This "Myers" thinks the opposite would be more likely the case on that morning.

Wargames which NOBODY will

Wargames which NOBODY will talk about.
Jon Gold | Homepage | 08.03.06 - 8:40 am | #

Hey no planes even hit the towers dude, didnÂ’t you know? Forgot those disturbing war games that can actually get a conviction, that's a "limited hang out".

All I want to know is who

All I want to know is who scheduled the Wargames, and who was in charge of them that day.

Erin: Yeah that's what I'm

Erin: Yeah that's what I'm talkin about.

DBLS: Right ON!!!

yizzo: I'd add to that that FAA perfectly perform the never done before task of grouding all the plane in the US airspace that very same day.

The RIDICULOUS "luck" the

The RIDICULOUS "luck" the alleged hijackers had that day... they just happened to pick a day to allegedly hijack 4 aircraft on a day when the military was running exercises having to do with hijackings.

Sorry folks, but NOBODY is that "lucky".

Who could forget the FBI/CIA

Who could forget the FBI/CIA anti-terrorism operatives being stranded in California for training exercises on the morning of 9/11?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/security.htm

Re: wargames "actually

Re: wargames "actually enHANCed our response!" (roflmfao good thing!)

Transcript of Representative Cynthia McKinney's Exchange with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers, and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Tina Jonas, March 11th, 2005
http://fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031505_mckinney_transcript.shtml
http://www.spiegltech.com/media/McKinney2.rm
[or] http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/240305mckinneygrills.htm
[or] http://www.prisonplanet.com/video/McKinney2.rm
[or] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RvLL--vSsA

Re: incompetence
"Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be ineffective." -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War