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Mike Berger of 911truth.org on Scarborough Country - Video Download
Mike Berger from 911truth.org was on Scarborough Country tonight on MSNBC. Scarborough was out tonight, and was replaced by Michael Smerconish.
While MSNBC did play the collapse of WTC7 on national TV, something that has maybe happened once since 9/11, the video footage they provided was poor. While I only saw the clip we are hosting above and not the live feed on TV, it appears the clip of WTC7 they played was one of the worst out there. For those unfamiliar with the WTC7 collapse, you can find more video clips here and here.
The second guest brought in towards the end of the segment was Steve Emerson. Mr. Emerson quickly came on in an effort to 'bring some sanity to the conversation' as Mr. Smerconish put it.
So, here is what Mr. Emerson said:
Listen, in any catastrophe your going to have sometimes irreconcilable statements because people's memories aren't.. aren't.. exactly accurate, they don't reconcile each other all the time, they don't confirm each other. However, in the statements that this man just made, I can tell you one that FEMA definitely, Federal Emergency Management Association [sic], definitely concluded that World Trade Center building number 7 collapsed because of the collapse of number 1.
And here is what the source he is quoting here actually said:
FEMA Chapter 5: WTC 7 - page 5-1
The performance of WTC 7 is of significant interest because it appears the collapse was due primarily to fire, rather than any impact damage from the collapsing towers.
FEMA Chapter 5: WTC 7 - page 5-31
The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. [..] the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurance.
Now whose memory isn't exactly accurate? To make my point clear, FEMA didn't definitely say building 7 collapsed due to the collapse of building 1 - in fact they said the exact opposite.
I'm not here to argue the point that WTC7 was a controlled demolition, I'm here to make the point that the people they bring on these shows to make a counter argument have no issue with manufacturing their own data - exactly what they generally blame 'conspiracy theorists' for doing.
Check out the clip, watch for more information via the Scarborough Country website, send them in some feedback, and post some comments here - in that exact order.
Flashback: Watch Tucker Carlson invent his own reasoning for why WTC7 collapsed.
Big thanks to Mike and Jon Gold for the video grabs!
Check out this excerpt
Check out this excerpt regarding Philip Zelikow on Wikipedia:
"Prof. Zelikow's area of academic expertise is the creation and maintenance of, in his words, “public myths” or “public presumptions,” which he defines as “beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community." In his academic work and elsewhere he has taken a special interest in what he has called “‘searing’ or ‘molding’ events [that] take on ‘transcendent’ importance and, therefore, retain their power even as the experiencing generation passes from the scene."
I guess it makes sense that the one appointed Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission is an expert in the art of creation and maintenance of public (political) myths.
911blogger is gettin spam
911blogger is gettin spam with porn bots.
It's a step up from the typical shill atleast.
"Might want to have a barf
"Might want to have a barf bag handy, though, if you decide to click the link."
I took a look at those repulsive pics...thanks for the barf bag warning.
Great job by Mike
Great job by Mike Berger...
I feel he did the best he could under the circumstances...
Three cheers :)
Howy fuck! That was a great
Howy fuck!
That was a great appearance by Mr. Mike Berger. Hats off to him.
He had the MSNBC host scrambling for any and all interuption chances, talk over and don't let Mike Berger be heard chances, change the subject chances, and was sounding like a complete moron lol
Then when the MSNBC host went to Steve Emerson's opinion, Steve Emerson was stuttering, flustered, babbling, and sounding like a moron also.
Even though Mike Berger didn't get to finish explaining anything in any complete manner because he was routinely and rudely interupted throughout, he still did a great job, looking and sounding a lot more sane, knowledgable and professional than the MSNBC host and Steve Emerson.
That video's going in my YouTube favorites.
Thanks. That was great. It made my day.
dz: "how ironic that the discussion of the turning point of our modern day society can't get 10 minutes of real discussion [on mainstream broadcasts]. but of course the emotionally driven coverage is no problem to come by."
Great point.
But, at least, with appearances like that of Mike Berger on MSNBC, 9/11 truth side is really starting to win on unprecedented levels.
Lionel of 710 WOR New York
Lionel of 710 WOR New York demolishing Smerconish on his show last night:-)
Lionel is close to coming out as a truther.
Hey Nick, that's an
Hey Nick,
that's an interesting bit of info. on Smerconish.
He'll probably be called Smearaccomplished from this interview forward.
Here's an interesting piece
Here's an interesting piece in Smerconish's bio:
"At the age of 29 he served as a presidential appointee under George H.W. Bush as a Regional Administrator in the Department of Housing and Urban Development."
Getting the right connections.
Anyways, the technique used by Smerconish is typical of those tv hosts that don't show any sign of respect for their guests (unless they are truly powerful and on your side).
It's interesting to note that Smerconish's strategy is that to give a few truths, like the zogby poll and the video (although bad quality) of the WTC7 collapse, and trying to mock the poll, saying people are buying it. If I were watching the show I'd be offended. But there is much more offensive stuff going on in the show.
Smerconish doesn't let Berger finish any of his arguments, he constantly interrupts, the volume of his voice is much higher than the guest's, he keeps asking questions but is not really interested in the answers. And look at the bottom of the screen: all it says is "Conspiracy vs. Reality". That's not very journalistic or objective.
FYI, the new better quality
FYI, the new better quality WMV from the youtube stream is up, and apparently his definition of FEMA was wrong too ;)
Just sent in my mail: Liars,
Just sent in my mail:
Liars, Liars, set the world on fire:
But we'll hold you accountable anyway.
So, here is what Mr. Emerson said:
Listen, in any catastrophe your going to have sometimes irreconcilable statements because people's memories aren't.. aren't.. exactly accurate, they don't reconcile each other all the time, they don't confirm each other. However, in the statements that this man just made, I can tell you one that FEMA definitely, Federal Emergency Management Association, definitely concluded that World Trade Center building number 7 collapsed because of the collapse of number 1.
And here is what the source he is quoting here actually said:
FEMA Chapter 5: WTC 7 - page 5-1
The performance of WTC 7 is of significant interest because it appears the collapse was due primarily to fire, rather than any impact damage from the collapsing towers.
FEMA Chapter 5: WTC 7 - page 5-31
The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. [..] the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurance.
NIST hasn't report on WTC7 yet.
http://www.teamliberty.net/id243.html
Just add you for the forthcoming trial-list:
Accessories after the fact--are people who receive, comfort, or assist a felon knowing that he has committed a felony, or is sought in connection with the commission or attempted commission of a felony. See 234 A. 2d 284, 285. The term thus applies to anyone who obstructs justice by giving comfort or assistance to a criminal offender in an attempt to hinder or prevent his apprehension or punishment. 378 F. 2d 540, 542.
This should be especially be given fact for the so called "forth estate" (a bad joke, IMO)
No regards for covering-up a mass-murder on national tv...
Sitting-Bull
germany
It's so maddening the MSM
It's so maddening the MSM focuses on the pentagon and wtc theories, when they never go after the hardcore PROVABLE stuff like FBI obstruction, foreknowlege, Pakistani ISI, fighter jet standdowns, Sibel Edmonds findings, etc.
The MSM always brings up the pentagon theories, but I also fault people for making that such a big rallying point.
Hopefully this documentary gets in a lot of theatres and wakes people up in a way no cable show can:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-330418413919565384&q=Press+for+...
it was pretty apparent the
it was pretty apparent the host's strategy was to get to the Pentagon right off the bat and bring up the questions of where the family members were if it wasn't 77 that hit the Pentagon. i can pretty much garauntee that anything else that could've been covered he would be completely clueless about - hence the focus on that subject.
how ironic that the discussion of the turning point of our modern day society can't get 10 minutes of real discussion. but of course the emotionally driven coverage is no problem to come by.
That was really something.
That was really something. Congratulations Mike Berger. Job well done, everyone.
Jeers, not cheers, to Mike
Jeers, not cheers, to Mike Berger who, when asked if the 9-11 Commission got it wrong, couldn't respond affirmatively (IOW, despite multiple openings/opportunities, he never would simply say "yes" to that question). What a weaseley wimp of a 911 truther Mike Berger turned out to be -- and that's giving him a huge benefit of my large doubt after the way he wasted limited time promoting the notion that 767s hit the WTC by referring to unsubstantiated hearsay evidence (which is especially inexcusable given all the the far more solid evidence which indicates that 767s did not not the WTC).
But, hey; that's what fake opponents do for one another...
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Yes, Mike Berger did a great
Yes, Mike Berger did a great job.
He was prepared to do an even better job, but obviously they couldn't allow him to.
767s did not hit the
767s did not hit the WTC).
(oops; text [pre]view is in tiny typeface; should be larger, esp. for people who can't read...)
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"How ironic that the
"How ironic that the discussion of the turning point of our modern day society can't get 10 minutes of real discussion."
That's as good a summary as I've ever heard of this issue, or what's going on in the MSM and our society.
"Go fuck yourself!" This is
"Go fuck yourself!"
This is clearly audible at the end of the clip, when the Substitute says to the Shill who came on after Berger, "Oh by the way, are you standing in the grassy knoll right now?"
Somebody audibly responds, "Go fuck yourself!"
Who was this? Doesn't sound like the Shill, or Berger. Probably someone on the crew, responding viscerally to the Substitute's stupidity and not realizing a channel is open so that it goes out over the air.
Now that's what I want to hear more of!
Take heart friends. Tonights
Take heart friends.
Tonights broadcast was major media damage control.
9/11 Truth is having an impact.
The establishment is getting nervous.
We don't need the major media to in order to spread our message.
Look how far we've come without them.
Despite any picky
Despite any picky perfectionist criticisms of Mike Berger, this movement has come a long way.
how ironic that the
how ironic that the discussion of the turning point of our modern day society can't get 10 minutes of real discussion.
very well put.
so the mcmedia glosses over and distracts from, if not ignoring outright the obvious fallacy of the official fairytale. why would that be?
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"so the mcmedia glosses over
"so the mcmedia glosses over and distracts from, if not ignoring outright the obvious fallacy of the official fairytale. why would that be?"
Yeah, isn't it fucking shocking? At this point it's becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish between the media and the 9/11 perps. They are so inextricably joined together it will be difficult to extricate one from the other when all is said and done.
bravo for berger. i think
bravo for berger. i think his approach and demeanor does well for the movement. i also think that it was visible that, if given the chance, he would have plenty more to say beyond the confines of talking points tv.
WTC-7 tenant did banking for
WTC-7 tenant did banking for 9/11 patsies
http://valis.gnn.tv/B16153
No big surprise, Michael
No big surprise, Michael Smerconish is an establishment whore:
http://www.mastalk.com/mastalk/photos.jspx
Scroll down to "Government/Politics" pics. Might want to have a barf bag handy, though, if you decide to click the link.
What the heck was that all
What the heck was that all about?
We have to remember that the
We have to remember that the 9/11 perpetrators and their supporters in MSM are going to resist this hand, tooth and nail, and with every dirty trick in the book. So have to keep our cool and keep learning.
My congratulations therefore to Mr. Berger, I think he did a fine job given the circumstances.
Nice interview by Berger, he
Nice interview by Berger, he was articulate and got as many points across as he could. If he had been on Oprah, the number of Americans accepting a coverup would skyrocket.
He forgot to mention Larry
He forgot to mention Larry Silverstein's
confession.
I'd like to see them play that. Bu tof course they would insist he didn't actually mean that.










Here's mine: I watched Joe
Here's mine:
I watched Joe Scarborough's stand-in, Michael Smerconish, interview Mike Berger from 911truth.org . Mr. Smerconish refused to discuss the points Mr. Berger raised about the problems with the 9/11 Commission Report- why are he, Scarborough Country and MSNBC so uninterested in the Commission's and the government's suppression of the discovery of the black boxes at ground zero? Don't you want to know what they reveal? Don't you want to know why they denied they were recovered? Why didn't Mr. Smerconish ask Mr. Berger to elaborate on his claim that the testimony of Bush's Secretary of Transporation conflicts with the statements of documented liar Dick Cheney on Cheney's whereabouts on 9/11?
Additionally, Mr. Smerconish refused to address any of the points Mr. Berger made about WTC7, instead getting flustered, interrupting him and insisting on bringing up the Pentagon damage, claiming that the "small hole" and apparent lack of wreckage is central to the 9/11 Truth Movement's theory that we have not been told the whole truth about 9/11. It is not- as anyone knows who's researched alternative sources of information on 9/11. You are ignoring what is central to the Movement- the demand for answers to reasonable questions about the performance and statements of key officials and agencies, questions that were ignored by the 9/11 Commission, or answered with lies.
What a joke- even the person brought on to defend the official 9/11 story had to be rushed off the air because he questioned the Warren Commission's absurd conclusion, that Oswald was responsible for the Kennedy assassination. If Mr. Smerconish and Mr. Emerson had actually read the FEMA report, they would know that it did not claim WTC7's fall was related to damage related to the collapse of the twin towers:
FEMA Chapter 5: WTC 7 - page 5-1
The performance of WTC 7 is of significant interest because it appears the collapse was due primarily to fire, rather than any impact damage from the collapsing towers.
FEMA Chapter 5: WTC 7 - page 5-31
The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. [..] the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurance.
Scarborough Country and MSNBC have totally disrespected the 9/11 victims and their families, and insulted the intelligence of tens of millions of Americans.
Erik (I included my full name, address and phone in the email to msnbc)
70% of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee's Questionis were ignored by the Commission
http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html
Top 40 Reasons to Doubt the Official 9/11 Story
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
115 ommissions and distortions of the 9/11 Commission
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404
Complete 9/11 Timeline
http://cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
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Zogby Poll Finds Over 70 Million Voting Age Americans Support New 9/11 Investigation (Less than half trust the "Official Story")
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060522022041421