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Mark Dice, don't bother.

A number of FCC complaints have already been filed, the die has been cast.

If you go on Reagan's show tomorrow, you will legitimize him, and possibly jade the judgment of the FCC, who must decide if they will act against Reagan.

We couldn't do anything about Geraldo's conflation of 9/11 Truthers with terrorists, because FOX News is primarily a cable broadcast, it doesn't go out over public airwaves, and the FCC normally doesn't do anything about cable broadcasts.

Reagan is different. Let him be hoisted by his own petard, his big mouth.

Don't set a precedent by giving Reagan a way out. If rabid radio jocks are going to suggest that people get shot, they must answer to the FCC.

Don't bother going on his show.

hmm

I suspect were going to find out just exactly what kind of "truther" Mr. Dice really is very soon...
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Mark Dice on the Alex Jones Sunday Edition

Sunday June 15, 2008

Mark Dice on Alex Jones Sunday Edition

Alex Jones and Mark Dice talk about radio host Michael Reagan who went on air in front of 4 million listeners and called for a firing squad to brutally execute American citizens

http://www.radiodujour.com



Rawstory is running this on their home page in big letters:
http://rawstory.com/news08/2008/06/15/radio-talk-show-host-calls-for-mur...

(this is the payoff)

Michael Reagan's solution

Michael Reagan's solution for the Middle East.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz7SWm-xWo

Michael Reagan--presidential son and top-rated talk show host--shares his sick ideas on how to solve trouble in the Middle East on 8/15/2006. First he advocates killing babies by inserting "a grenade up their butts," then he claims we will achieve peace "when everybody in the Middle East is dead."

Perhaps he wants Reagan's

Perhaps he wants Reagan's audience to put a face together with the threat - just in case one of them actually does try to harm him. Whether he goes on the show or not, the words were uttered - on the public airwaves, no less - and the wheels are in motion. Dice can go forward with any kind of legal action that would be appropriate in this case. Reagan can't squirm out of this one even if he wanted to.

If you were an FCC commissioner...

...and you received a number of complaints about Reagan's threats to Dice, and then one of your staffers advises you that Dice is on the air with Reagan, after all of these complaints have been received, how seriously are you going to take the complaints?

If I was a commissioner, I would say "not very".

And what happens the next time one of these jackasses does the same thing? O'Reilly is notorious when he is on cable, but he has a radio show too. He walks a fine line, and it's just a matter of time before he pops off on 'Truthers' too.

Let's not set a precedent here. Let the FCC fine his frothing mouth off the airwaves if they see fit. We don't want to be seen as 'crying wolf'.

One fascist at a time. Just give 'em enough rope to do themselves in, and they will.

The threat has been made

and that was the crime . . .

Rep

Lets give Mark Dice a chance to make his case.

He is on AJ's Sunday Show right now and he says he is not going to stop and says the Reagan should be fired and is asking for more complaints to be filed at the FCC.

He has also called for criminal prosecution.

So let Mark speak for himself.

We can still file on our own accord as Reagan threatened ALL Truthers sending DVD's & Truth material to the troops.

So that means you and me.

So this is a lot bigger than Dice alone.

I still say we should give MD a chance even if he does go on MR's show.

We are ALL INDIVIDUAL LEADERS - so NO ONE PERSONS SPEAKS FOR THE TRUTH IN TOTALITY.

We have an opportunity here and if Dice does go on air on MR's show perhaps he can plug some serious 911 Truth info like ae911truth.org - Karen Johnson etc.

Dice says a Pandora's box has been opened with the threats on him and the truthers. His own family has been death threated.

The issue here should be reaching out to MR's 4 million brainwashed audience. Silencing MR alone is not enough.

Dice may have weiged the costs.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and wait till we understand the full scope of developments.

We may be able to do both. Silence MR and reach out to some of those 4 million listeners.

EDIT - MD just said that that he is going to DEMAND that that MR be fired when he is on his radio show tomorrow.

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Agreed

Mark is also an eloquent speaker and handles himself skillfully while debating the devil.


Friday, June 13, 2008
Radio host calls for Mark Dice to be murdered. Ronald Reagan's adopted son, Michael Reagan, is calling for Mark Dice to be found and killed. He wants to pay for the bullets. Alex Jones and Mark Dice call for us to take action.
http://www.radiodujour.com/guests/dice_mark/

Most courageous of us all...

I've got to say that what Mark Dice is doing is very noble and courageous. Keep up the good work!

Although I don't know the

Although I don't know the exact protocol for handling complaints, I suspect that the FCC isn't that far gone that they can summarily dismiss a death threat made on public airwaves - at the very least, they must address it. I think it is irrelevant whether he goes on there as far as the complaint(s) go - it's now a matter of record, and must be followed through their Consumer Inquiries and Complaints Division.

The jackasses will (and will continue) do this no matter who is speaking out against them. O'Reilly is different, in that he is brought to task by many of the mainstream media; hasn't he threatened a 9/11 family member or two in the past? I'm not aware that he has threatened anyone with death, tho. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

I agree that they are hanging themselves - but only because people like Dice, and you, aren't letting them block out the sun with their fingers - and, IMO, making his presence known to Reagan's audience may not be a bad thing, but rather a good thing. Makes him visible, and perhaps safer.

Agreed

Give the agency room to do their job and don't muddy the waters.
;-)
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A comment from an ex BBC journalist Gillian Norman...

I was just talking to Gillian and as an ex BBC journalist and film maker she made the point that Dice should attend but with these conditions;

1. No editing of the inerview and the interview to be filmed as to provide evidence if this is done.
2. He must not go alone and should take some one who is qualified to comment i.e.; Gage, Jones, etc
3. He must gain agreement there will not be any threats or personal attacks against him or his associates.
4. The interview must be a set length and he must recieve a set portion of time for his side of the story.

I personally still think he should not go because his audience is unlikely to listen to what is said and he might undermine his case against Reagan.

I think what Gillian has offered as advice would see the best possible outcome, if he does go!

Q. Does he look here rep?

Kind regards John

9/11 24/7 UNTIL JUSTICE!!

Agree

If Dice goes on the show then he's not a "truther".
What's he gonna say? Don't shoot me...shoot them?

Reagan's threat was direct and unambiguous.
Mr. Dice should not be allowed to define the movement.

Go on the show Mark

right move for the infowars

Alex Jones is talking to Mark Dice right now . . . sounds like Michael Reagan's producers are freaking out because the audio clip of the threat (a crime) is being spread all over the universe.

I will post the audio later . . . the live streams are totally saturated . . .

windows stream
http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx

At

this time I kinda agree with you.

Hopefully MD will have a chance to mention ae911truth.org, Operation Northwoods, LCFC, TerrorStrom etc.

We need start reaching out to our HARDEST CRITICS AND THEIR AUDIENCE.

So this looks like an opportunity.

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Go on the show Mark, spread

Go on the show Mark, spread truth and we still press for an FCC prosecution. We who want truth, we want it all.

One thing to consider.

The show is pre-recorded.

It can be edited to Reagan's taste. It's not a live deal.

Did not know that

I thought they took "live" calls?

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that really sucks

was not aware of that.

A number of people are saying if Dice goes on the show, that means he doesn't believe it was really a murder threat, meaning the FCC will dismiss the threat as being a threat? I'm not a lawyer and don't know; it seems like you guys do- what precedents are there?

How does Dice's refusal to believe his life is in danger change the seriousness of Reagan's threat- Dice may be crazy (like a fox?)

According to Martin Hill (corresponded by email and met him once, but i don't know him) Reagan has said he spoke rashly and didn't mean it. Even if Dice makes an ass out of himself, Reagan, by having him on his show and not killing him, no matter how he edits it- doesn't that prove his own idiocy, hypocrisy- and the right to say whatever we want about 9/11, even if it's irresponsible, bogus, bullshit?

That said, i'm all for a truth and reconciliation commission, and finding out who some of these people really are, that seem to have a full time media presence saying the stupidest, most cointelpro-sounding garbage- personally, i don't think they're all that destructive- the fact that they're out here in force loudly saying things most people immediately recognize as bullshit is just another clue 9/11 was an inside job- so that's where the missing $2.3 trillion is going, while the US is waaay behind on quality of life measures compared with other industrialized nations, and even productivity, even though we work more hours? Boy, these elites that control our media and political process SUCK; elites my ass- if you're elite, compete on a level playing field, where ALL the People have ALL the facts and you can't get away with mass murder and war-mongering, you fucking parasites. Damn Right, We the People will make better decisions than you- as Thomas Jefferson repeatedly noted.

edit- also, what are the precedents for Reagan's statements being protected speech; what laws make it illegal to make threats? Are they trying to legalize threat making? Oh, we're just kidding (psst- NOT! KILL! KILL! KILL!)

trying to understand what's going on...

9/11 Family Steering Committee Review of the 9/11 Commission Report:
http://911truth.org/images/resources/Family%20Steering%20Cmte%20review%2...

Complete 9/11 Timeline
http://cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

Did not know that either.

Did not know that either. The better solution might be to not go on the show, and then make sure Reagan is fired and criminal charges are pressed. That will in fact be a better opportunity for press coverage. Then again Mark Dice might just as well talk to the man with his best Christian intentions and try show him the light of truth about 9/11. One thing I know for sure, Mark Dice will make the best decision he can.

Talk about need to know info

Cheers for the heads up.

I would definately advise AGAINST going on air in those circumstances. You WILL be framed out of the debate.

Did I say "debate"? Sorry, meant bloodbath...

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Don't forget.

That's the key issue here regardless of how anyone feels about Dice.

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face the music

The FCC is going to find out Dice is a "9/11 nut" and not do anything, might as well go on the show and pimp Loose change or the final cut, maybe im wrong, maybe if he doesnt go on hell get fined or something and theyll be more publicity, I dont know its up to Mr. Dice

Don't go!

Regards John

9/11 24/7 UNTIL JUSTICE!!

Mark Dice

I have been in comunication with Mark Dice and have given him my opinion that he should not go . It is his call. Personally, I will not give this Reagan the op to use me after an attack, for ratings. If he goes, this will die out quietly and may hurt his own case. I can have the amount of people that will hear my side of the story triplicated by doing the opposite. Again, his call. I filed my complaint and have others in the 9/11 family group doing the same. Regardless of Dice appeareance everybody should make an example of this kind of threats. FCC does have jurisdiction, I checked with my lawyers. I posted the radio call on my webpage as well (william911.com) and sent him an email and a voice mail at 1 (800) 468-MIKE voicing my opinion. Please do the same. Also , you can contact all the 200 affiliates as I did, via email.

William Rodriguez
Survivor of the North Tower
President of the Hispanic Victims Group, Victims Support Group

Thanks for your post William

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Convince the middle grounders...

We DO NOT have to exert one single ounce of energy or time towards out sternest critics. We need to inform the general populace and those who are interested otherwise. Then we need to be in position to explain some stuff as these "Reagan types" expose themselves.

This is no more than another "cointelpro" type of set-up to bring out the WORST in all of us. Reagan's audience is the LAST group of people that we should ever consider wasting our precious time and brilliant efforts upon.

Pretty soon, most 9/11 Truthers will have seen a wide variety of "frauds and traps" that the HI PERPS, or their "panicked" followers like Reagan have set up for us. And we will know how to avoid them.

Other than that, I couldn't possibly state anything more clear and appropriate than the advice of William Rodriguez.. He is in all ranges of the media all the time...and I trust his sensibilities.

Look folks, we got the goods, and they will come out without these types of whackos like Reagan having anything to do about it.

BELIEVE!!!

And do some CI, or bannering, or emailing, or more research into AA77 and the Pentagon...[they are the Achilles Heels of the HI PERPS' schemes...]

Peace and Patience...

...it simply makes no sense to enter the hungry lion's cage when we can do so much in broad daylight...

Robin Hordon

G'day Robin! Question's?

Firstly as you can see your point of view is well supported, and William really is the most experienced on such issues as you say! Don't go Mark!

A few questions "off topic" if you would indulge me...
Did you coin the term "Civil Informationing" as I am using it now and thought I should know were it came from?

What is your opinion of PfT allowing John Lear to remain a member after his "No Plane at the WTC" and "Remote Control impossible" video B/S? Your opinion...?

Finally due to the abuse of the word "truther" I have started referring to us as "9/11 Truth Advocates" do you think this is an appropriate term?

You said "BELIEVE!!!" and I with you and you've got to love quantum physics, lol!!

Kindest regards John

9/11 24/7 UNTIL JUSTICE!!

>>And do some CI, or

>>And do some CI, or bannering, or emailing, or more research into AA77 and the Pentagon...[they are the Achilles Heels of the HI PERPS' schemes...]

Bannering and emailing, yes, but I think that our strongest points, such as demolition -- now published in a civil engineering journal -- are going to take us the farthest. Every aspect of the attack should be researched, but it's unfortunate there are so many poor and baseless claims, devoid of real science, about the Pentagon.