does the thought of government involvement in terrorism scare you like a little bitch? cant wrap your feeble little mind around it? just bring up Elvis,Oswald and aliens to make yourself feel safer!!! Glenn Beck is the lowest form of scum.

As usual, its the OV supporter that looks like the intellectually bankrupt party in the discussion.

It really annoyed me that he was acting as if the footage shows a plane clearly? Surely everyone watching would have noticed how indistinct andc odd the footage is.

I agree with the general truthseeking sentiment to 'stay away form the pentagon', but at the same time, its good that some people have jumped on the recent re-release of the footage to publicise the movement.

I thought the guy came across as reasonable and focused, and refernce to the military expert who denies the footage shows a plane was interesting.

IT jhust a shame the interviewer pulled the old 'eyewitness' card right at the end, after the ad hominem elvis/area 51 bullshit.

Area 51 is interesting though. Another example of how willingly the public stomach government secrecy and supicious activity.

Inflated Terrorism - Propaganda Lies
Exaggerated misconceptions of worldwide terrorism to frighten us into supporting a global police state.

by Peter Phillips

May 20, 2006
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The Bush administration is paltering to the American public with exaggerated misconceptions of worldwide terrorism to frighten us into supporting a global police state. With seven hundred military bases and a budget bigger than the rest of the world combined, the US military has become the new supreme-power force repressing "terrorism" everywhere.
Vice President Dick Cheney's keynote address at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) policy conference March 7, 2006 is a telling example of neo-conservative global dominance thought in the current administration. Here are his exact words, "Israel, and the United States, and all civilized nations will win the war on terror. To prevail in this fight, we must understand the nature of the enemy. Šas America experienced on September 11th, 2001, the terrorist enemy is brutal and heartless. This enemy wears no uniform, has no regard for the rules of warfare, and is unconstrained by any standard of decency or moralityŠ.The terrorists want to end all American and Western influence in the Middle East. Their goal in that region is to seize control of a country, so they have a base from which to launch attacks and wage war against governments that do not meet their demands ultimately to establish a totalitarian empire that encompasses a region from Spain, across North Africa, through the Middle East and South Asia, all the way around to Indonesia."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=PHI20060...

"The enemy has got a powerful tool, and that is to get on your TV screen by killing innocent people" George Bush

I wonder if he considers Glen Beck the enemy for covering up the deaths of innocent people.

Great interview Mr. vonKliest, even the sleepiest of sheeple would hear you.

You can even send email to this extraterrestial entity of scum called Glenn Beck overhere: me@glennbeck.com

kudos to Von Kleist. Excellent Job!

Mega-props to Dave von Kleist!

That's how you deal with a shill.

Congratulations to Dave Von Kleist for not blowing up on National Television. Which is what I would have done.

"Do you have real evidence of this, besides what we all know?"

It's the lack of evidence that proves that it wasn't a 757.

Notice how Beck immediately changed "not Flight 77" into "not a plane." And Von Kleist didn't jump on it. Other than that, Dave did well.

Beck also insisted he wasn't attacking Von Kleist, about 4 seconds before he called him a "nut job."

Just remember - the craft (if there was one) can be ANYTHING. "No plane" is ridiculous and it doesn't have to be proven.

As long as it's not American Airlines Flight 77, we have an official lie. We simply have to find ONE proveable discrepancy with the government's story, they have to have every fact correct, or there's a scam.

Anybody else notice Glenn Beck's tempered spasmatic twitching during Dave's first response?
It was just before the camera cuts away from a two up to one up on Dave, it was kind of scary, I thought he was either about to spontaneously combust or he was just going through another one of his brain gravy withrdrawl convulsions.

...and btw
When the truth does reveal the government's account as a LIHOP or MIHOP coverup, I would like for Beck to keep his beliefs. Let's have him on some talk shows to rant about the American people framing the government for 9/11. Let him play conspiracy theorist for a while as he tries to set out in exposing the American people for being a bunch of terrorists. That'll be entertainment. We'll need some comedy relief when the smoke clears and the American people are in control of the country again.

isnt it pathetic when the camera man is better informed than the host? Becks camera man knows whats up. he needs to teach his asshole boss a few things.

Beck also insisted he wasn't attacking Von Kleist, about 4 seconds before he called him a "nut job."
D.Douglas | 05.21.06 - 11:35 am | #
HAHAHAHA, yeah, i thought that spoke volumes.Von Kleist is a more rational man than me.i would have friggin lost it and started attacking the guy.

At the end of the day, it isn't really our responsibility to prove theories, merely to highlight:

i)the contradictions between what is known to have happened versus the claims of the 9/11 commission
ii) the absence of well-drilled procedures and the inadequate explanations as to why they failed
iii) the amount, and detail, of foreknowlegde that was ignored
iv) the lack of thorough investigation in cetain (if not all) areas

There is plenty credible evidence that fits into each of the above categories, making the need to theorise, redundant.
Only by making people aware of the irrefutable facts, will there be enough support for a new enquiry.

stuart: according to http://www.flight77.info , the other videos may not show the plane.

OT:

Saturday Night Live had this Neil Young skit last night where he had new songs, one was called "Donald Rumsfeld is a straight up Murderer"

I almost fell over.

Ive never been a big fan of VonKliest but he definately held his own, I'd say he was well prepared. I doubt I would have been able to remain calm and focused with that goon Beck bobbing in front of me like that.

Hey, the comments are back.

wow that host was an ass. can you imagine getting into an argument with him at the bar?

"Anybody else notice Glenn Beck's tempered spasmatic twitching during Dave's first response?"

I thought I was the only one that noticed that...