In my opinion there are two main types of debunker. There are 'Shills' who are paid government propaganda assets tasked to talk down the 9/11 Movement for Truth and there are 'Saps' who are their hangers-on. These are often poor lost souls who suffer from moral cowardice and are only too willing to swallow whole the poor fare offered by the Shills. These are by far the biggest group of debunkers.

In the immortal words of Mike Rivero;-

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all

Suppose the Truth Movement was to widen it's scope somewhat ? What if we take the issue of the unconstitutional income tax under our Truth banner ? The illegal income tax issue is as big a lie as 9/11 if not much bigger and as such falls naturally under a Truth designation. Everybody should watch the movie 'From Freedom to Fascism' by the recently deceased Aaron Russo. These are a cpuple of clips but there are more out there on Youtube (for now).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuxc2rl38rg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CcHgHeraZI&feature=related

The argument in certain quarters now goes that the Truth Movement will never get the Bush administration into court, and that even if we do a conviction will never be on the cards. But maybe an official conviction is not necessary. If we can drag this squealing thing fully into the light we will inevitably get a lot of TV time. I am utterly confident that we have more than enough circumstantial evidence to fully convince above 80% of people worldwide that the Bush administration carried out 9/11. Perhaps this kind of kitchen-table conviction will be enough to effect a lasting change in the way government works. Perhaps real Patriots will start to come out of the woodwork....at least tempoarily.

the fact that WTC7 did not collapse until 5.20 pm, several hours after the Twin Towers fell, may indicate that there was a foul-up in the plan. It would have made more sense if WTC7 had collapsed at about the same time as the North Tower. Consider....if it HAD collapsed at the same time, then the administration could easily have made the case that it was largely knocked down by falling debris from the North Tower. The piles of wreckage would have provided few clues to show that this was not true. Speculate that the explosives set in the building did NOT detonate at the appointed time, forcing them to act off-script, lighting some strange looking fires on a few seperated floors of the building to create a scenario that provided SOME justification for a collapse. That may be why the fires looked so unlikely. At 5:20 it was judged that they dared wait no longer, and having repaired the computer glitch or whatever it was that prevented them from blowing the building to coincide with the North Tower, they went ahead and demolished WTC7 hours late. That makes WTC7 absolutely a wide chink in their armour.

Follow the money' is always a good idea when investigating people. Don't forget that some anonymous people have wagered around one billion dollars in put-options that one of the DOW indices will fall by at least 30% by the 21st of this month. If they are wrong, they lose it all. People don't gamble money like this without good reason, especially people who have made that kind of money. There are two possible reasons. One is that the Chinese may dump their holdings of American dollars into the open market, which will cause huge instability, if not the actual collapse of the dollar, and the relevant DOW index The other reason might be that the investors know that a huge physical calamity will befall America before that date, which is now about one week away. If something happens, I think it would be safe to say that these put-options are proof of foreknowledge. Just as the put-options placed on the two airlines involved in 9/11 indicate foreknowledge of THAT event.

Look at the forked stick that the mainstream media find themselves in right now ? Up until now, they have been the unqustioned purveyors and vendors of Truth in America and around the world. Whether you admit it or not, the clear evidence says that they have helped the government to cover up 9/11. This knowledge is percolating into the general public consciousness, and people are beginning to turn in ever greater numbers to the internet as a more reliable form of news and Truth. This is not going unnoticed by the main news organs. That is why I say that they will sooner or later HAVE to start publishing what they know of 9/11. It's strictly a matter of their own survival. Their shareholders must be anxiously watching the DOW indexes.I think the Truth Movement should devote more time and effort in bringing pressure to bear on people like Murdoch.Hit them in the wallet, and you will see some action. Why pay for omissions and outright lies?

There are strong signs that the government are finally becoming proactive in their approach to counteracting the strong advances the Truth Movement have made in the last year or so. Up until now, I think they ad hoped that the talk on a 9/11 conspracy would wither and die through lack of publicity. Alas.There are several very high quality clips that have recently appeared on youtube that try to ridicule conspiracy-speak.(see link for example).The postponed History channel documentary will certainly be tilted to support the administration's story. We fully expect this, but are pleased that it will finally put the 9/11 story squarely on the table, where it belongs. I'm sure it will be a strong piece, but you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear no matter what you do. I will be most interested in the explanation of WTC7’s collapse, and the firemen’s testimony about multiple explosions in the buildings on 9/11.

If this seething resentment about the lies of 9/11 carries on, America may very well destroy itself. It is surely the administration's responsibility to calm these rising tensions by allowing a new and fully independent enquiry into the events of that fateful day. It will be clear that this is all that will calm the situation which may soon spiral out of control. It doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong....it just needs to be settled one way or the other. Does anybody feel that it's OK for the government to sit back and watch America dash itself to pieces on the rocks of uncertainty?

When we are asked to believe that a boeing 757 penetrated through yards of reinforced concrete walls at the Pentagon we have to strain out imaginations to do so. Look at it this way...the 757 strikes the first wall, and only the fuselage goes through...crosses about 50-60 feet of space and goes through another wall,...then another open space and carries on through another wall..another similar open space , and another wall, another open space, then another wall and another open space, and yet another wall,aoither open space, and finally punches a large clean hole in a final wall. ...Three rings in all, with another building section crossing the fuselage's path.(see link).