Which is why we visit and contribute here !!!

dz, Thanks for building a great platform for "9/11 Truth"...

911Blogger has always been the best, thanks for all you have done maintaining that standard.

Good luck in your new role REP !!! I hope everyone gets behind yah.

Hope to see ya around dz...

Best of luck and good wishes dz

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LOL at Brainster's comment... almost sounded sincere, let's hope for the future ;-[)

he cannot hide from Truth. I expect we will hear from dz in the future. Especially as we get closer to 9/11/07. Thanks for all your efforts, my family thanks you.

Thanks dz, this is a great site. I'm sure the crew will do the right thing with it. Good luck with whatever endeavors you choose to take on. They will be the better for it!

>>when you start banning members for no good reason

Banning is the antidote to a mentally ill and infiltrated movement.

I support any bans ever made on here and hope to see more in the future, and on all blogs and forums. Those who cannot behave with common decency on forums, who cannot treat others with the most simple respect, are not the people who we want as our leaders and companions.

We are not babysitters. We have a purpose, and it isn't nursing the rude, mentally ill and infiltrators.

When we spend our time agonizing over whether to bounce someone, they win. That's exactly where they want us to be. Just do it.

- Bounced people who were sincere will be better on their next forum
- The mentally ill are people we can't help by not bouncing them
- Agents are getting paid and we aren't; bouncing them sooner is better

That about covers it.

Thanks for your heads-up emails dz when it was necessary, and for posting things for people like DP who needed someone else to post. Appreciated.

Well said Victronix!

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

To lie. Most people attack me, or the information I post first, and then I retaliate. With few exceptions (Jim Fetzer, Nico Haupt, etc...). Your friend RT is consistently attacking me on his site. Personally I think he has shown his true colors. LIHOP and MIHOP are divisive terms invented by an insane disinformationist that mean absolutely nothing. I highly recommend everyone drop these terms from their vocabularies.

Ok, Jon, if we drop the LIHOP term, the pattern is still readily apparent, doesn't matter. There are certain folks on here (that small but loud clique I mentioned) who's job seems to be to:

1) Exagerate the importance of Patsystan and the fictitious ISLAMIC TERRORIST MENACE or any misdirection that tends to prop up the myth of the 19 hijackers coordinated by a Boogy Man in a cave in Afghanistan (such as the story of the supposed all important wire transfer from Patsystan to Mohammed Atta that keeps being trotted out, even though in reality it is questionable evidence and has only A SINGLE SOURCE - THE TIMES OF INDIA, which coincidently happens to have a perpetual ax to grind with Pakistan - breaking all the rules of journalistic integrity having to do with assessing credibility of sources)

2) Put all the blame on the soon to be leaving Bush Administration, while visciously attacking anybody who tries to discuss some of the more permanant institutionalized perp layers, such as the one foreign power who has 1000 times more connections and sets of fingerprints on the 9/11 operation than any other - MOSSAD and ZIONISTS controlling the US - purposely and repeatedly conflating the Z-word with "anti-semite" nonsense

3)Knock out one of the strongest legs of 9/11 Truth - the GIANT HOLE IN THE STORY OF THE PENTAGON ATTACK, PUN INTENDED. Working in tandem with the Jim Hoffman/Arabesque disinfo crew this clique attempts to turn reality on its head by claiming that people who don't accept the fiction that AA77 hit the Pentagon are disinfo agents.

No, I don't need to lie. The truth speaks volumes enough as to what is going on and the direction that the controllers are taking this site. Gee, I wonder what changes are in store here after dz's demize? Anything having to do with tighter control over what viewpoints are allowed?

and again, like i said in another thread, i may have had my share of heated arguments with RT but i certaintly agreed with him on the 3 issues you list among others and will miss his presence when these issues come up in the future. as far as the LIHOP/MIHOP terms go, i could care less if Nico or whoever created them(did he really? is this based on his claims?), they indeed serve a purpose because there is a clear distinction to be made between the 2 views. i agree that its wrong to use the terms as a club but to throw them out because Nico may have "created" them is ridiculous in my opinion. are we gonna just go ahead and spell the whole thing out every time now so we dont offend anybody? no thanks, i think most people here are mature enough not to care. also, like inside i would like to know why RT was really banned and if there was a double standard at play. again, im not exactly a fan or a friend of RT but i can admit that he added something to the discussions here(and not only because i agree with him on the 3 things you listed) and like altruist i feel that its a loss for the site.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

I heard it from other people whom I respect, and have been apart of this movement for a long time. Keenan, please stop lying about me, and please stop putting words into my mouth. Thank you.

Please stop lying about me. Thanks.

Real Truther had some of the most intelligent comments ever posted on this site.Althought at times he could be considered controversial to some,I feel that his comments were on the mark.I'm not a friend of RT but I definitely respected his point of view.As for Jon Gold I don't always agree with his views, especially regarding the Pentagon, but I do appreciate the work he has done for this movement.

"Working in tandem with the Jim Hoffman/Arabesque disinfo crew this clique attempts to turn reality on its head by claiming that people who don't accept the fiction that AA77 hit the Pentagon are disinfo agents."

First of all, please quote me where I have said that AA77 hit the Pentagon. I have never said that.
Then, please quote me where I said that people who disagree with my views at the Pentagon are agents. I have never done that.

YOU are the one throwing around the accusations. You are the one promoting disinformation by making these false statements about me. Now why are you doing that?

Thank you for including me with Jim Hoffman, who I consider to be the single most credible, honest, and reliable 9/11 investigator. I have noticed your continuous ad-hominem attacks on this researcher, and myself which is really quite embarrassing and pathetic.

Now let's take a moment to see what you have contributed to this site... well it looks like there is nothing... no blogs... and you spend time going around accusing people of being agents? Did you know that this is one of the very same tactics that agents employ? I suppose it's just a coincidence that you have contributed nothing to this site except mostly for accusations and insults. In that regard, I shouldn't take you very seriously, and I don't.

I could point you to my fellow "shills" such as credible websites like 911truth.org and scholars for 9/11 truth and justice, and others who just happen to support my views. Do you consider these people to be agents also? If so, why do these people spend so much energy proving the official story false on 9/11? Why do I spend my time disproving the official lies of September 11?

But there is no sense in being logical with you, as I can see you are a deeply irrational person who has to resort to accusations to support controversial positions within the 9/11 truth movement. Your accusations against Jon Gold, I also find offensive. LIHOP, I personally consider a disinfo term, that turns us away from logically and critically looking at evidence. Did it ever occur to you that part of creating a Patsy story involves proving that they are indeed patsies? Part of this, is showing how they are set up to be patsies, and that the government did allow these people to be Patsies--on purpose. This is not LIHOP, these are the facts, and they are documented, and corroborated by other facts. Simply calling these facts false is SPECULATION. Maybe they are false, but I can't make that determination without a complete investigation to nail these facts down.

Maybe to you, this is not important information, but to those who are skeptical that the official story is false, this is important and deserves respectful treatment by researchers. If you don't care about this research, you don't have the right to tell other people not to consider it for the reason I just provided.

I don't waste my time with people who take the approach of Nico Haupt in making FALSE statements and hurling accusations (ironically accusing ME of doing this!) instead of CONTRIBUTING research, blogs, and CIVIL debate.

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

what do you think of Hoffman's own continuous ad-hominem attacks on fellow 9/11 activists and researchers? dont you feel hes kind of shooting himself in the foot when he gets all childish like that? and again, i respectfully disagree about the terms LIHOP and MIHOP being divisive. just because some assholes use LIHOP derisively doesnt mean we all do. i respect people who truly think that they simply let it happen and didnt help to make it happen even though i disagree. that doesnt mean that that terms dont serve a purpose and are simply "disinfo"(god is THAT term over-used...). and while i tend to think its extremely possible that Pakistan is the intended fall guy i never discourage people from looking into the ISI angle. like you said, its important to prove the roles of the patsies and to prove that they were indeed merely patsies.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

I am someone who thinks they "simply let it happen and didn't help to make it happen?"

based on what ive seen from you i tend to think that you think "they" must have helped on at least some level. im not the one ragging on you for being"LIHOP" though, i may disagree with some of your conclusions as im sure you probably do mine as well but im pretty sure you're beyond LIHOP in the way that i use the term.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

That requires a "paralyzing and catalytic event like a New Pearl Harbor", name the time of the invasion before said "paralyzing and catalytic event like a New Pearl Harbor", and not have something to do with it. At least, not in my mind.

However, I don't know what happened on 9/11. I can admit that. For others, it's harder.

like me for instance Jon? hahaha, i dont claim to know what happened but i dont shy away from any evidence either.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA