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Sofia's letter to google and YouTube
Posted with approval from Sofia.*
911 MYSTERIES
Avatar, LLC
PO Box 698
Cardiff CA 92007
June 1, 2007
Google, Inc.
YouTube, LLC
[agents thereof]
Re: “911 Mysteries” - DMCA Counter Notification
On or about May 25, 2007, Google Video and YouTube removed links to the video (and to segments from the video) entitled “911 Mysteries,” produced by Avatar, LLC, as a result of a DMCA Takedown Demand filed by Richard A. Siegel, an individual associated with a work entitled “9/11 Eyewitness,” for reasons of copyright infringement.
Mr. Siegel’s claim of infringement is false. First, well before the release of “911 Mysteries,” Avatar obtained express permission from both Blue Star Media Group (co-owner of the copyright in the “Eyewitness” work) through its managing partner Jim Brewster, and from Mr. Siegel’s partner David Shaw, to incorporate limited segments of “Eyewitness” in “911 Mysteries.” Mr. Siegel’s two partners were fully cooperative with Avatar in licensing this material. Second, even if Avatar had not obtained express permission from the creators of “9/11 Eyewitness” to use their material in “911 Mysteries,” the 38 seconds of incorporated footage that Mr. Siegel has taken issue with is fully protected by the copyright Doctrine of Fair Use.
While Avatar was working with Mr. Siegel’s partners, Mr. Siegel completely delegated the handling of this matter to them, even though Avatar had included Mr. Siegel in its initial contact letter. Additionally, Mr. Siegel is indiscriminately filing takedown demands against other works on the subject of 9/11, as demonstrated by the recent removal from YouTube (also initiated by Mr. Siegel) of “September 11th Revisited” by Dustin Mugford – a video that does not even use any material from “9/11 Eyewitness.”
“911 Mysteries” is considered by millions to be an important and effective commentary on the events of September 11, 2001. Indeed, Avatar has received a flood of emails and calls from citizens concerned about the removal of the video from your highly valued websites. Even Mr. Siegel’s own business partners are deeply upset by his groundless actions, and wish to see “911 Mysteries” restored on all of its formerly active links.
Therefore, Avatar requests that both Google Video and YouTube restore all removed links for “911 Mysteries,” many of which are listed on the attached enclosure, and that at the same time you restore the settings on the counters for those links, which figures demonstrate the vast numbers of viewers who have found “911 Mysteries” to be a highly important work that provides valuable information to the general public on a subject that has affected this country more than any other in the last 60 years – the devastating events of September 11th, 2001.
Sincerely,
(letter ends)
* This item was submitted as a blog entry in by johndoex and Jim Fetzer. I have combined the blogs into a news item, because it is news.
Jim Fetzer had this comment at the top of his blog entry;
Rick,
I must tell you that, after reviewing the bidding on this one, I think that Sofia is in the right and you are in the wrong. To the best of my knowledge, "9/11 Revisited" does not even include any of your footage. Isn't there a more constructive way to resolve this conflict? Especially in light of the permission granted by your associates, I believe that your actions are damaging to the 9/11 truth movement. Please reconsider.
Jim
where is Lucile Ball when
where is Lucile Ball when you need her..... "awwwww...what's a matter little Ricky?..... bitter your video isn't as popular?"
..........maybe he was caught in the space beam
Where'd he go?
What ever happened to Siegel? Did he accept a payoff to stay quiet, or was he one of the space-beamers?
whatever the reason, that's shameful behaviour on his part.
I can't believe Siegel did this
Fortunately, the video will likely be reinstated. The way the DMCA works, Rick must have sent an Infringement Notification letter to Google. Google automatically takes the video down immediately. Sofia sent a Counter Notification. So Google will put the videos back up. At that point, it is up to Rick Siegel whether he wishes to file suit. Let's hope he doesn't.
For reference: Google's DMCA policy
damn
Siegel's a freaking turd.
We're not talking about a short comedy video getting ripped off.
We're talking about the most important historical event in the freaking WORLD.
To fight over two or three scenes is bullshit - especially when the source material is referenced and mentioned DURING THE FOOTAGE SHOWN.
It's actually some of the more convincing scenes - the rumbling and white smoke rising from the base of the towers.
Siegel's lucky she didn't show his nuclear bomb theory footage - or more of his insane narrator's strange and ridiculous voiceover - no one would have been interested in his 911 EYEWITNESS vid if she had.
So he's in it for the money? Jesus - he's worse than the people that planned the attacks/demolitions. WTF, Siegel?
I'm all for paying for these vids to help the creators out with the production costs - that's why I ordered the dvd from INFOWARS. now I'm glad I did.
Siegel seems to be in it for the profit. Vulture.
$$$
Siegel is acting like this is some big money maker. Most copies of 911 Mysteries are Free and this was on-line. Not a penny being made from it. Instead she has gone into terrible debt because the film is being copied. This is the kind of behavior that is expected when big money is involved. Is he being paid off? Is there actually big money involved?
War Makes War, Peace Makes Peace Sitting Bull
fetzer
and what's fetzer talking about? does he have the right movie?
My brain stack dumped when I read Fetzer's comment...
In particular...
"I believe that your actions are damaging to the 9/11 truth movement"
It left me speechless...
Best wishes
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Fetzer was referring to "9/11 Revisited", which I cannot understand how Rick could have had any influence over... Maybe the producer Dustin could clarify !!!
space beams
funny. I didn't realize the irony in Fetzer's comments. : )
9/11 Revisited (v2) pulled too
Yeah, Rick had my film 9/11 Revisited (v2) pulled too. It was an error on his part. I have been in contact with Rick since I found out it was him and we are getting this matter resolved ASAP.
I got back from my Memorial Day weekend trip to find my video "9/11 Revisited (v2)" was pulled from youtube & google. I contacted Sofia when I found out that her film was pulled too in order to ask her who did it. She told me it was Rick Siegel and I told her there was no way he had mine pulled because none of his footage is even in my film.
Long story short.. Rick's partners jumped the gun in filing the DMCA notification against my film.
I faxed google & youtube DMCA counter notifications and it will be back online within 14 days.
The clown has really stepped
The clown has really stepped over the line with this crap, I can't actually believe something so ridiculous as this has happened. The genuine 9/11 Truth Movement needs a formal rejection of all these disinfo artists who are neatly compiled on Siegel’s "shills'R'us" website.
"It was an error on his part."
No, It wasn't. He's a disinfo agent, period. Obvious Shills like this are laughable & do not worry me, it's the subtle disinfo agents who don't want you to look beyond the the puppet show (Bush admin) that concern me.
Okay.. let me rephrase that...
Okay.. let me rephrase that...
He told me it was an error on his part and that his partners mistakenly filed a DMCA notification against my film 9/11 Revisited.
Do I know that's what happened for sure? No, I am just letting you guys know what I was told.
Fetzer misidentifying the movie
seems to be typical of his half-assed approach to 9/11 Truth. He's an egotist, not an advocate, at best. At worst, he's a conscripted disinfo shill.
He's talking about the OTHER movie.
Also mentioned in Sofia's letter.
This just goes to show that
This just goes to show that Siegel is an enemy of the Truth Movement, as if we didn’t know already that he was disinfo, but this just underlines the fact for certain. Can anyone imagine Alex Jones calling copywrite infringement on a fellow Truther? I can't. Agent "Rick" is a shill period and I call for his crappy video "911 Eyewitness" with it's abrasive narration and ridiculous and completely out of place elevator music soundtrack, to be deleted from 911podcasts. Also I think the links 911blogger has up on the side need to be urgently revised. As it stands we've got a number of known disinfo artists linked to there in the name of fairness and big tent neutrality, I think this is a mistake. We need to be linking to credible and genuine sites only.
I agree.
The tent is getting plenty big now even without the shills. No need to let the town drunkard and a handful of escapees from the psych-ward have the same billing as guys like Steven Jones, Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, Johnny Wave... The tent is getting RATHER full, and many of the occupants are now very well credentialed. Time to remove the links to Killtown and some of the other repeat offenders. We need to start thinking more about creating air-tight credibility. And, this IS an infowar. Why would we want to help the enemy by guiding people to their disinfo?
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New scientific paper shows Siegel wrong
STOP SPAMMING !!!!
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Fallacies
I haven't read the entire document yet but I noticed some fallacies:
"Velocity of Air Expelled From Tower"
"The high velocity of air jetting out also explains why a significant amount of pulverized concrete and shredded glass was ejected to a distance of several hundred meters from the tower"
Up and out velocity and high speeds are not caused by pancaking. Also, how would you explain:
WTC2 Flashes
http://www.vsocial.com/video/?d=90134
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWi1fmxCGAw
squibs on WTC7 at the top

squibs on Twin Towers many floors below collapse wave
Another fallacy:
"Another criticizm claimed sightings of 'pools of molten metal' within the rubble pile, purportedly produced by planted thermite-based incendiary devices. But all of the supposed evidence is entirely anecdotal, and is refuted by the facts in NIST (2005) report....But these elements were to be expected since they were contained in gypsum wallboard, electrical wiring, galvanized sheet steal, etc"
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http://TruthSeeker.us
Just wait...
... until Steven Jones gets his hands on this "paper" (or any other fine scientists featured in Journal of 911 Studies).
Also anyone remember
Also anyone remember Siegel's key role in breaking up scholars for 9/11 Truth, attacking GW from this site and fermenting the fractures between Fetzer and Dr Jones? Because I do. This guy is a shill in my opinion, but he is bad news either way for us in undeniable fact. Please Dz, Sbg take down all association between 911blogger / 911podcasts that even remotely relates to this individual. In fact he posts/disrupts here under the screen name "Constitutionalist" or something right? Ban the clown!
What we need to do is forget
What we need to do is forget those that we see are obviously hurting the movement. It hurts to get rid of Fetzer, because he was my favorite 9/11 Truther at one point. He was clear, concise and to the point. But we have to dump these guys.
And by dump, I don't mean wasting time calling them names and pointing our their strategies. I mean just forgetting they existed and ignoring them. They want us bickering and to start trying to point out why they are wrong.
However,
we need to keep them firmly in the back of our minds as they may potentially become a Trojan Horse for our movement (ie. Fetzer's national tv appearances). I strongly agree that the links to Siegel and yes, KILLTOWN, should be removed from 9/11blogger immediately. In fact this needs to be hammered home repeatedly until it gets done. We can't afford to have these wolves-in-sheeps-clothing blending in among us. We have to keep in mind that there are 9/11 truth beginners who are not well-versed in 'disinfo-ism' as we are. We need to be mindful of who we associate with, even peripherally , as it's understood that an info-war is now well underway. Even Rosie O'Donnell was complimentary toward Judy Wood which is totally unacceptable.
Word of the Day: AIRTIGHT!!
Agreed...
It is surprising, though, to see serious researches like DRG still as members of Fetzer's scholars. What are they thinking? They should avoid all association with Fetzer and co. like a plague. There are so many credible organizations and people around now that there is no need to "tolerate" the shills.
"Potentially" a Trojan
"Potentially" a Trojan Horse? IMO, that's one perfect description of what they already ARE. Great comment. I've had a problem with Fetzer, Wood, Seigel and Reynolds for quite some time now.
They can all just... pog mo thuin. (Thanks Rob.) :)
My guess is he is being
My guess is he is being handled by the perps who were delegated to contend with the inevitable skepticism that would come after 9/11.
Fact #1: He was filming the event as it happened - ( the original copy was "confiscated" by the feds )
Fact #2: He had access to WTC 1,2 months prior to the event ( I do remember seeing his ID badges in the version of 911 Eyewitness )
Fact #3: He is an ass clown. :D
you can't prove anything
^ Say hello to agent "Rick"
^ Say hello to agent "Rick" everybody.










Good luck in resolving this Sofia and 9/11 Mysteries...
and shame on Rick for his stance...
Many thanks and best wishes