Hillary Clinton to Chair 9/11 Toxic Air Probe Committee
Wake Up Your From Your Slumber has the goods. Or Raw Story's version is here .
May 15, 2007
Washington, DC - Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY), Chair of the Senate Environment and Public Works Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health, and Congressman Jerrold Nadler (NY-08), Chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, announced today that they will conduct companion hearings into the failures of the Federal government in responding to the environmental crisis that resulted from the September 11, 2001 World Trade Center attacks. For over five years, Clinton and Nadler have staunchly criticized the Administration's misleading public statements about post-9/11 air quality, as well as its continued failure to provide a proper testing and cleaning of indoor spaces contaminated by WTC toxins and its lack of provision of health care for the thousands of people who are ill as a result of exposure to the pollutants.
These hearings represent the first comprehensive Congressional oversight investigations into these environmental matters since the immediate aftermath of the attacks. While in the Majority, Republican House leadership steadfastly refused to hold a single hearing on this matter, or even respond to a written request made in September 2003 by Nadler, then-Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and then-Ranking Members John Conyers, John Dingell, George Miller, and Henry Waxman. (See http://www.house.gov/nadler/archive108/EPA_091703.htm ).
"We need to examine what went wrong and assess whether the federal government is better prepared to respond to environmental hazards in future disasters," said Senator Clinton. "I also remain concerned about potential indoor contamination resulting from the collapse of the World Trade Center and want to take a close look at the EPA's inadequate program to test and clean residential areas in Manhattan."
"Finally, we have an opportunity to hear, on the record and first hand, who in the federal government was really responsible for key decisions about the handling of post-9/11 air quality. And from there we can finally learn why those decisions were made -- decisions that are still having an impact on 9/11 victims today," said Nadler. "The lack of thorough Congressional oversight thus far has allowed for years finger-pointing and evading of responsibility on the part of the Federal government, but now is time for the truth. We must, at long last, get to the bottom of these matters, so we can do what is right for the heroes of 9/11, and ensure that we prevent anything like this from ever happening again." he added.
The House hearing is scheduled to take place on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, at 10:00 A.M, in Room 2141 of the Rayburn House Office Building, and will examine the federal post-9/11 environmental response and related possible violations of the "substantive due process rights" of individuals living and working in the vicinity of the World Trade Center on, or after, September 11, 2001. In a recent decision, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York found that former EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman's falsely reassuring and misleading statements of safety after the September 11, 2001 attacks were "without question conscience-shocking." The court also found the facts "support an allegation of a violation of the substantive due process right to be free from official government policies that increase the risk of bodily harm" by Whitman's misstatements regarding the air quality of the affected area. An EPA Inspector General review reached similar conclusions. Invited to testify are:
Christine Todd Whitman, Former Administrator, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) [invited];
John Henshaw, Former Administrator, Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OHSA) [invited];
Samuel Thernstrum, Former Member, White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) [confirmed];
Tina Kreisher, Former Associate Administrator for Communications, Education and Media Relations, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) [invited];
Suzanne Mattei, Former New York City Executive of the Sierra Club and Author of Pollution and Deception at Ground Zero [confirmed];
David Newman, New York Committee for Occupational Safety and Health and Former Member, World Trade Center Technical Review Panel [confirmed];
Paul Harris, Shook, Hardy & Bacon [confirmed] (minority witness);
Other minority witness to be determined
The Senate hearing is tentatively scheduled for June 20th, 2007 and will examine the federal response to 9-11, including risk communication and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency programs to test and clean indoor spaces in lower Manhattan. The hearing will also examine lessons learned from 9-11 and federal readiness to respond to releases of hazardous substances in future emergencies. The hearing is expected to include testimony from EPA and CEQ officials, as well as affected New Yorkers and scientific experts.
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I hope...
That the criminality involved behind what happened isn't just pointed out, and then forgotten about. I hope that true oversite is performed instead of the "evading of responsibility."
It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up
exactly
"we're not here to point fingers.....we're not here to attack the administration..."
that sort of bullshit will be too much to handle.
It...
Would be bad for the country.
It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up
Political move
I believe this will be a purely political move to discredit her oponent, Rudy Giuliani.
-saned
correct
agreed
DIGG and NETSCAPE
DIGG:
http://digg.com/celebrity/Rosie_O_Donnell_Talks_September_11th_on_The_Vi...
NETSCAPE:
http://news.netscape.com/story/2007/05/15/rosie-brings-up-9-11-conspiracy
My advice
Don't wait and see what Hillary does. Take action to demand that they point fingers, if not they are covering up nothing more than mass murder.
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BTW...
I realize that "true oversite" is a pipe dream. I believe these hearings will do little more than expose the truth to those that are watching (the choir). Much like the famous "Downing Street Memo Hearings", the "9/11 Congressional Briefings", etc... The media will most likely cover some aspects of it because it's Hillary, and Hillary is running for President. She will be shown as a hero of the people, when the reality is, she's doing this BECAUSE she's running for President.
I wrote about her "motives" in January 2006 when it was already "too little, too late."
Hillary Clinton and Jerrold Nadler of New York, "had criticized past EPA testing efforts and demanded more thorough scientific work.", and now as a result, the Environmental Protection Agency has developed a new, "plan for testing any dust that may remain in private homes and commercial space from the collapse of the World Trade Center more than four years ago." Lawmakers even addressed it as being "too little, too late", and I'm sure Hillary is thinking about 2006, and possibly 2008 (Heaven forbid).
I know that there are other reasons not to trust Clinton. That being said, even if her motives are bad, if she somehow manages to get them what they need, then that will be a good thing. Still won't vote for her though. That little chickenhawkette.
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Jon, you make some very naïve comments sometimes. Why would you
expect Shillary to do a fair an honest job on anything regarding 9/11? The leading Democrats are clearly in collusion with the Repugs & NeoCons!
Naive...
Or hopeful? Read above.
It's Not The Crime That Kills You, But The Cover-Up
Larry Silverstein is Hillary's top individual contributor
Think we'll see justice? Think again!
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Can this be confirmed?
Can this be confirmed?
http://westchester911truth.org
"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right." Thomas Paine
sure, go to opensecrets.org
And look up Larry Silverstein. You'll see everyone he gives money to and how much....
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From Haaretz.com
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=97338&contrassID=3...
"Silverstein told his friends in Israel that for the next five years, he will be busy rehabilitating the site. It's the last project of my life, he explained to an Israeli acquaintance. To advance his project, Silverstein needs the support of politicians. He has paid three visits to Washington since September 11. As the largest private donor to Hillary Clinton, he has an open door to the office of the junior senator from New York. Other senators who received hefty donations from Silverstein have said that they are in favor of the project at Ground Zero. "
Old article
Not sure of the publication date of the Haaretz article, but it was from a few years ago - before WTC 7 was rebuilt.
Also I believe that Sharon is only a half sister to Roger and Lisa. They are not all Clara's children. I used to know Sharon and she always said that she was an only child and was raised apart from Larry's household, hardly knew her father.
please POST THIS IN THE FRONT PAGE.
ABOUT HILLARY AND LARRY. ANYBODY? THANKS.
What....?
....couldn't they get Kissinger?
lol, yeah,
its the new world order investigating itself.
good luck, she's not called Shillary for nothing.
She's backed by Murdoch and Fox, why do you think they are doing these attacks on Ghouliani and building 7 command center. When the lies and the motives are this transparent its time to be very afraid.
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HA!
Funny as hell.
in related news....
ECO-WHISTLEBLOWER LAWS NOW OFF-LIMITS TO FEDERAL EMPLOYEES — “Sovereign Immunity” Claim Voids Pollution Report Shields for EPA Specialists
Washington, DC — The Bush administration has declared itself immune from whistleblower complaints filed by federal workers under the Superfund law and the Safe Drinking Water Act, according to legal documents released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). As a result, federal workers will lose protection against official retaliation for reporting cleanup failures, enforcement breakdowns or manipulation of science relating to contamination of water supplies or toxic pollution.
This latest action was buried in a footnote of a legal ruling issued by the U.S. Labor Department on March 30, 2007 in a whistleblower case involving a scientist from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). It expands upon a ruling last year that federal employees may no longer pursue whistleblower claims under the Clean Water Act – a ruling based upon an unpublished Administration legal opinion.
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=850
Good on finding this
Good on finding this connection.
Surely it is no accident that Clinton's "probe" is announced two weeks after the story you have linked.
Publicize this. This is yet another good angle to start turning some real pages on this mess.
Hopefully the Supreme Court will overturn
Or a lower court. It's like suing someone — just as anyone can sue anyone for anything, even if they don't have a real case, they can claim anything they want and put any little asinine rules and regulations in here and there, but that doesn't mean that they are "legal" or "the law".
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9/11 — GET rEVENge! (in a peaceful manner, of course)
Are we still taking these laws seriously????
Bushco have basically written about a hundred laws ensuring that they can never be prosectuted for any reason what so ever, from now 'til the end of time. DO YOU RESPECT THESE LAWS??? I don't. How can an illegitimate government who rigged the elecitons to get into office write ANY laws that are actually binidng??? The government of this country has been a completely illegitimate one for the past 7 years, and I would argue that the laws they have passed fall in the same category!! We have to completely re-tool the democratic system anyway, WHY THE HELL SHOULD THESE STUPID, ILLEGITIMATE LAWS MATTER??? If the next administration wants to try to enforce this shit, and protect these murdering scum, THEN THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION WILL BE ILLEGITIMATE TOO.
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Interesting quote...
"The lack of thorough Congressional oversight thus far has allowed for years finger-pointing and evading of responsibility on the part of the Federal government, but now is time for the truth. We must, at long last, get to the bottom of these matters, so we can do what is right for the heroes of 9/11, and ensure that we prevent anything like this from ever happening again."
-Congressman Jerrold Nadler (NYC)
I will restrain myself from reading too much into that statement. Suffice it to say, the mere fact that a "probe" is being conducted, opens the door for questions which could ultimately lead to a full blown investigation into 9/11 truth. I am convinced that our "leaders" are not stupid, they are just scared. Some clever questions on the part of some of our more patriotic leaders (Russ Feingold comes to mind) could lead to broader more extensive probings of the facts.
For example, testing of the dust residue (if it was conducted) could lead to "discovery" of trace elements of thermite or other explosive agents. Wishful thinking? Perhaps... but I would have never guessed that they would even be conducting THIS probe, so I'm hopeful.
baby steps are good, but we need to walk right behind that baby
with a cattle prod. :) no offense CattleRustler....
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hehe, none taken...
Here ya go, I brought prods for everyone!
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Push like hell to cut
Push like hell to cut through the bs. Let's try to force her to do something real.
One possibility--thermite residues in the toxic dust.
A second possibility--how did the buildings produce such massive amounts of dust?
A third--how did they produce pyroclastic flows?
A fourth--there was at least one carpenter injured by an explosion even before the planes hit.
Basic point: There are many angles where this investigation could be turned toward reality. Let's at least publicize these rational arguments as much as we can.
every opportunity they open up
we need to use to stuff a little truth into the mainstream consciousness. they talk about the illness from the dust, we talk about what was IN the dust. they talk about the lies of the EPA and BushCo, we talk about ALL the lies...
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100% agree. This is where
100% agree.
This is where the rubber meets the road.
Legal Injunction?
Could a legal maneuver be instigated to force the inclusion of people with vital information. This and other such actions could be potent weapons in aid of the real facts.
So far the panel will include the folowing:
"-Christine Todd Whitman, Former Administrator, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) [invited];
-John Henshaw, Former Administrator, Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OHSA) [invited];
-Samuel Thernstrum, Former Member, White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) [confirmed];
-Tina Kreisher, Former Associate Administrator for Communications, Education and Media Relations, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) [invited];
-Suzanne Mattei, Former New York City Executive of the Sierra Club and Author of Pollution and Deception at Ground Zero [confirmed];
-David Newman, New York Committee for Occupational Safety and Health and Former Member, World Trade Center Technical Review Panel [confirmed];
Paul Harris, Shook, Hardy & Bacon [confirmed] (minority witness);
Other minority witness to be determined
The Senate hearing is tentatively scheduled for June 20th, 2007 and will examine the federal response to 9-11, including risk communication and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency programs to test and clean indoor spaces in lower Manhattan. The hearing will also examine lessons learned from 9-11 and federal readiness to respond to releases of hazardous substances in future emergencies. The hearing is expected to include testimony from EPA and CEQ officials, as well as affected New Yorkers and scientific experts."
What will Suzanne Mattei say?
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Clinton_Nadler_to_investigate_post911_envi...
Hmmm...
BMAC, the first persun you mention, as 'invited' to sit on the panel, is Christine Todd Whitman, Former Administrator, Environmental Protection Agency...
I mean, she was the one who said it was OK the breathe that air. Of course, we didn't notice her breathing any of it.
I don't mean to be picky, but... isn't that somewhat like putting Al Capone on a committee for investigating the Mafia?
Are any of the other names outlandish in this same way?
The first thing I mentioned was Legal Injunction
Can some real people with some real facts can be pushed into the ring. This will become a big story when it happens and, given
bush and cheneys growing weakness, massive public and legal pressure may be brought to bear on the proceedings.
not to be a nit picker...
But Student, you have expressed a lot of sensitivity to the use of the term Zionist and the perils of generalizations aimed at the Jewish community. By using Al Capone and the Mafia as an example of criminals investigating themselves I think you're displaying a similar insensitivity. People don't seem to realize that the obsession with all things Italian mob related (note the popularity of that kind of movie and The Sopranos) is really inappropriate. Imagine if people loved to go see movies and shows about Jewish bankers swindling people. What would be the reaction? Now of course there are plenty of Italian bankers and plenty of Jewish mobsters (Meyer Lansky, Bugsy Siegel, etc.) but the stereotype of organized crime seems to fall to the Italians every time, and no,Italians don't think it's cool to be associated with criminals, no matter how charming and colorful they are. I'm not trying to be a jerk but I think people need to be more aware of things like this because they are so ingrained in our culture that people rarely consider the similarities...
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If it's chaired by Hillary, it's most likely a coverup
An investigation of the 9-11 toxic air pollution may be used as a way to consolidate the myth of the official conspiracy theory. This may be a ploy to introduce "evidence" that would support the OTC and undermine a future investigation of 9-11 itself. With Hillary as it's chair I am almost certain of this. His husband did sit on the facts of the Oklahoma City bombing under his presidency.
To win some progressive points, they might sick the EPA, Condoleeza Rice and Giulliani.
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interesting
that's an interesting theory.
The "investigation" into the EPA warnings and whatnot will cloak the calls for a new and independent investigation into 911.
Another layer with new catch-phrases and actual scapegoats so the illusion of justice will fool boobus america into thinking all is well and just.
yes Juan
of course they won't turn over the top pers at first. they will see if we're happy with Condi on a spit. No we will not be. They will try to make it seem like we are unreasonable for demanding the perps and not just their fall guys. This WILL happen. Do not stop fighting hard until you KNOW we've got em all! Kinda like Pokemon--gotta get em all!! Uh oh a new card series in the works??
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New Card Series in Works - Brilliant !
RT - that's your ticket, my man! Didn't a set of cards come out for OBL and Saddam? How about a set for the real terrorists. You could easily come up with 52 criminals. Each card could include 911 facts. I'd play poker with those. So would about a million other Truthers. If you get stuck with the Cheney card you automatically lose.
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hey TWG
I started on a 9/11 cover-up All Stars series a while back and like many other projects left it unfinished. I do think that it's a great idea to make a series of cards that identify major players on the world scene and then creating a sort of subculture where we could come up with actual rules for games to play based on the cards. some day when I have more time and energy I might start on that but in the meantime I like to give people ideas in case they want to run with them. bottom line is we need to be as proactive as possible in seeding the world for lasting change in the way people think and work on these issues. if we build it, they will come. tehre are so many fronts on which to challenge the status quo that we are just scratching the surface right now. the future is what WE make of it, unless we make nothing, then it will be whatever the same ol same old bastards decide.
oh and I think greg palast does have an alternative deck of playing cards with all kinds of establishment assholes instead of evil muslims...
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preempt the media
Maybe we should tell the media ahead of time that the investigation may be misused to reinforce the OCT myth. By getting our narrative out early, they may be thwarted from attempting to go this way and keep the door open for a future investigation specifically addressing the inside job angle.
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One more Clinton
Let us see.... Hmmm. First there was a Bush, then a Clinton, then another Bush and now we are poised to receive another Clinton. Coincidence? I think not. That is too much power running through 2 family blood lines. Don’t you think? Wouldn’t it have been extraordinary if there were 2 Kennedy Presidents? It never happened did it? Why? Well one was murdered, and one died in a plane crash. You know….I’m sure that I am reading too much into this.
I’ll tell you this, before Sept 11th I was a Democrat. I know finally know that there isn’t such a thing…Thank God! There is only the good cop, bad cop routine. So ANTHING that comes out of the mouth of Hillary Clinton is a falsification of the truth. And the truth that she does speak will only be done to propagate lies.
I’ve heard in the past that Satan himself will tell a hundred truths just to tell his one lie.
I tend to believe these days that there is an evil force (Satan) that wished to see the complete collapse of the United States of America. There will still be an America but it will not be what you and I envision.
This ties in directly with the PNAC document, the division between the have and have not’s growing ever wider and this isn’t done by accident. Look at the number of factory type of jobs that have been moved to other countries for cheaper labor. Look at the amount of outsourcing that is happening every day from our country. Look at our wide open boarders that we have, look at the PROTECTION that the illegal’s have in this country. (All the while we are told that we are in a war on terrorism, all the while we are told that there are those that wish to destroy us.) Look at how much money corporations are making off of hiring the illegal’s. The very companies that BREAK the law are profiting from their illegal activities, and nothing is done about it. I tell you brothers and sisters that I have seen the life that Tijuana Mexico has to offer for someone, and I have seen the life that San Diego has to offer. I can not blame ANYONE that wants to come from Mexico to come and live in the United States of America. Think about this though, if there was no work…why would they come?
People, this things are not by accident…they are deliberate and calculated, and they are going just as planned.
There is a perfect storm that is brewing. Have you ever smelled the air right before the storm? Have you ever felt the chill in the air right before it hits? I tell you that is how I feel right now.
I feel that the only hope that we have is wake as many people as possible. For those that see life as a game, I can tell you now there is only going to be one winner. I know what side I am on, while I am here I will fight for the good guys as much as possible, because no matter what happens in this life….I want to say I am a winner in the next.
This is a small message for the unbelievers here, I’m not here to condemn you. I say these things only out of love. Look at the signs, you have been able to see through the fog of lies, I ask you to look further and see who is the true originator of those lies. If you know that there is true and pure evil in this world then you know that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, that reaction my friends is the LORD. And here is here for you.
- nick9/11
religion?
The Lord, if he's up there, has a sick sense of humor about all this shit.
Better to leave the guy out of it. It'll give your arguments a little more scientific weight.
Unless of course you're conversing with members of your faith.
wind bag I am.
I sure am. But you have one thing wrong God isn't evil. (Evil is the absence of the lord. Think of it like this. In scientific terms, you have matter and only until recently we have discovered that there is anti matter. satan is matter and the Lord is anti-matter. It doesn’t matter that man didn’t know that the other half existed, it doesn't matter that he couldn't scientifically prove it’s existed at some point, it has always been there and it has always been waiting for us to discover it.)
God isn’t behind this death and destruction (The one everyone here is so concerned with), Satan is.
For those that say “If there is a God, why doesn’t he stop all of this?” We’ll why should he? If you don’t even have the courtesy to admit that he is Lord, why should he save you? Would you save yourself if that were the case?
Another thing that people forget is that we (Man) chose this separation. Anyone have kids? Ever give your children everything you can possible think of and more and their response is “is that all, but why can’t I have that one thing over there?” Well we asked for it, we were even forbidden from having it, we took it and now we have it.
Speaking of scientific weight, where do you think science comes from? It is funny, the more man learns, the stupider he gets. Here we are at the cusp, once again, of destroying the entire earth. (I’m sure I will not have to argue with this group about the possibility of WW3 ) Will science save us from this...no? Science has brought us to this point, but it will not save us from this reality. However, it does say in the bible how ever that the Lord will destroy those who destroy the earth. Rev 11:18 Man’s scientific knowledge is so limited right now that it is pathetic. PATHETIC. Fact, if we discovered that a large meteor was headed for Earth and that we had one month to get off the planed in order to save the human species we would be wiped off the face of the earth. And that is a FACT. So tell me this in what way does humanity’s scientific weight compare to creation. It is like one grain of sand in the endless desert.
So here we are in the truth movement, do we have scientific proof that there was a conspiracy? Some would say yes, some would say Steven Jones is the man to present this information to the world. Is he? Will he? Only time will tell? If not then what are we operating on? Faith? Faith that we have found the truth? Faith that we know the truth and others do not? What doe the Lord have to say about truth? “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” – John 8:32
Even if Steven Jones presents scientific proof to the world will all believe in the truth? NO. There are some that will never be able to accept what we have to say, just like there are some that will never be able to accept what I am saying to you right now. (So I think that you can understand why I say the things I say, because I believe it to be true and for me not to state so would be criminal on my part.)
I’m not trying to preach, I just want people to be open to what the real truth is. If you don’t believe then I would have to say what the truth could be.
For those Christians that are in this group I will preach for a bit. We need to get up off of our lazy “saved” butts and start getting the religious community involved. Let me tell you why, the Churches of today are becoming a coffin, a tomb if you will. Why? Because they are becoming a place to make money and not serve the Lord. For the sake of keeping as many people in the pews, church has become a place to feel good about all the crappy things you did all week long. People don’t want to hear the truth anymore, and the especially don’t want to hear the truth about the country they are living in and the things that their county and their leader are doing in the name of God.
"God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq . . .' And I did.
Really? Well here is what the bible says about the matter.
“You shall not give false testimony.” Exodus 20:16 The falsification of information to the congress, the United States citizens and to the world.
“You shall not murder.” Exodus 20:13 The result of our lies and deceit. Not only have Iraqis been murdered, but also our own citizens and the men and women in our military.
“You shall not steal.” Exodus 20:15 Look no further than the PNAC document to see why we are stealing an coveting from those in the middle east.
“You shall not covet.” Exodus 20:17 Why are we in Iraq? One word. OIL. As sad as it is for me to admit. I once had a conversation whit someone I used to go to church with and he told me “I’d be O.K. with the war if they just came out and told us we were there for the oil.” So as a Christian I guess he believed that it was O.K. to kill people so we could drive our cars and fly in our planes. Not exactly what I learned in Sunday school.
I have spoken to a past pastor of mine about 9/11 and urged him to look into the facts about 9/11. I only asked him to look at 9/11PressForTruth. Needless to say I haven’t heard back about any of this. The sad matter of fact is this; the religious factions and churches have been lied to and deceived by the Republican party over and over. And now religious people all over the country can’t bring themselves to the truth anymore.
The sad truth is that both the Republican and Democratic party are EVIL. (Not all members, but they don’t have a chance in hell…pun intended.)
It is fine time that we stop believing that our Government will save us from evil because it has been infiltrated by evil and it is run by evil men and women who only serve one master. That master is greed. Jesus said that you can not server two masters. And these elected men and women can not either. In the past their masters were “we the people..” That is no longer true, right now they server themselves, their best interest and in the end satan has bought them.
-nick911
You are cordially invited...
Christine Todd Whitman, Former Administrator, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) [invited];
LOL!! "Please RSVP by..." It should say INDICTED.
This whole thing will be bullshit. Don't get distracted from our mission. They'll at best hand out some hush money to first responders, to get them out of the movement.
Billary Road-ham Clingon is not to be trusted for one second. NWO investigating NWO. This will be a sham, don't get distracted. FIRST RESPONDERS, DON'T TAKE THE HUSH MONEY!!! DON'T AGREE TO ANYTHING THAT WILL HURT THE EFFORTS TO GET THE WHOLE TRUTH OUT.
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hush
It'll be TOTALLY political, but at the very LEAST it'll surely end up benefitting the first responders.
no doubt aid/funds will be provided to the sick and the dying. And I can't see it coming with a stipulation forbidding them from speaking out against the govt. Since the "attacks" they've been speaking out and the media has practically ignored them, so hush money would be redundant.
in this case, I really don't care what color the money is, just as long as the responders get what they have deserved FOR YEARS.
They deserve retribution.
But they should be smart about it. If they buy into something that derails or slows down the movement, who knows what they'll be facing a year or two from now. They could get compensation, then have some bullshit tax layed on them that sucks it right back out of them. Or much, MUCH worse...
I feel deeply for these people, and that is part of why I'm trying to do my part to spread Truth. But we need to realize, and THEY (the victims) need to realize, that this issue is SO HUGE. Way bigger than any individual lives. I want them to have FULL justice, not just a pocketful of quickly depreciating cash. I know they need help now, but hundreds or thousands of times as many people are going to suffer if we don't reverse this downward spiral. We need them to keep demanding FULL justice, not to take a payoff then remain quiet.
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"Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without." - Buddha
"What you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Gandhi
"The Sun never shined on a cause of greater worth." - Thomas Paine
and if they don't, we will
we have all been victims and as much as I feel for all the sick people there are also DEAD people to consider 3000 American troops and 600,000 Iraqis and counting. this is bigger than any single victim, and we have to remember that we fight for people who no longer have a voice because they heve been murdered.
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Hillary Silverstein
I assume Hillary has gotten clearence from AIPAC, Larry and the Bilderberg Group.
of course, this is her time to earn her bribes
They didn't pay good money for a junior senator from New York to actually be held accountable, now did they? In the end she'll blame republicans and she'll blame al Qaeda. That's what she's being paid to do, and if she wants to be selected as the next prez she's damn well going to do their dirty work. And by THEY I mean all the theys who bribe her not just the AIPAC and 9/11 perp sets (which I assume are separate entities, for the record)
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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force
Correct
You got that right. Well said.
That's a nice point...
RT, excpet he didn't say 'the Italian Mafia", he just said the Mafia. And he didn't say Italian, he said Al Capone (surely a criminal known beyond any ethnic boundaries). I'm all for not offending people, but for looking extra hard to find any reasons that might. Are you Italian by chance?
-"Johnny"
Mafia means Italian mob
I think it's an acronym... something like morte alla francia (death to france) something or other. And while I'm not Italian, my last name DOES end in a vowel. :)
I'm not a PC nazi at all, I just thought Student should be aware of a potential double standard because he (she?) has been (justifiably) concerned about the Jewish vs. Zionist label issue... and yeah, because I like to cause trouble. bwahahaa! :)
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How to prepare for this event
How can the movement capitalize on this opportunity?
1. Support the awarding of benefits to first responders and point out the liars who held back the EPA warning of toxic air. We never know, they might stiff the first responders again. CONDOLEEZA LIED, PEOPLE DIED!
2. Maximize visibility of 9-11 truth (IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB! The 9-11 Commission narrative is the wrong premise for any investigation)
3. Advocate what we want - an honest investigation of 9-11 as an inside job
4. Use the occasion to identify which representatives would help and those who would oppose the cause - send in video equipped truth squads to ambush reps (they must be prepared, maybe with info kits approved by W. Tarpley)
5. Apply pressure on those who obstruct the truth - the movement must be responsive - if not with timely rallies then perhaps with internet newsletters, im/email/text brigades, press releases (a designated spokesman ready to comment on TV after every hearing). We should have a designated website where people can verify any info received from the sources above.
6. Avoid letting the occasion be misused to shut out a future investigation (counter any false evidence asap, cooperate with first responders so they won't be unwitting dupes to cover up the broader 9-11 issues)
7. Be ready to present our own evidence should the hearings venture on the cause of the building collapse (CD, collapse foreknowledge, etc.). Apply pressure to put our witnesses in the hearings.
8. If possible, though I am not sure it would be best under its chairwoman, put political pressure to make the hearings specifically cover the inside job angle and to call on our expert witnesses.
The suffering of the first responders IS the result of the conspirators orchestrating the building collapse then letting the first responders go in and be sacrificial heroes. This was compounded by the same conspirators letting first responders work on in the aftermath uninformed of the toxic air. Our narrative must prevail over Zelikow's catalyzing event.
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WTF?
This is a standard "collect all the evidence" - blame it incompetence - and the BURY THE EVIDENCE scheme.
Can't believe any of you would fall for this crap.
WACO
OKC
FLIGHT 800
VIETNAM
7/7 Bombing
VINCE FOSTER MURDER
JFK Junior
JFK Senior
All investigated - all evidence COLLECTED AND SHREDDED (in some fashion)
Get a clue
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Global Warming is the biggest scam to infect the planet.
Global Warming = Global Tax = Global Police = TOTAL CONTROL
Their goal is a ONE WORLD DICTATORSHIP. COMMUNIST or FASCIST it matters not.
They will do it anyway, lets try to derail them then
Hi CT,
They will most likely try to make this a whitewash of 9-11. Along the way they might grant benefits to the first responders, even hang out some of the operators who misled about the toxic air to look good. I bet left gatekeeper blogs will be proclaiming victory. They may also use this as a wedge issue to separate public support for first responders and 9-11 truthers. They can paint truthers as obstructionists preventing first responders from getting their much needed treatments.
But since they will do this anyway, how should we best act on it. Do we stand back and let them get away with it. If we do, they might push back the truth movement and break our new found momentum.
The alternative to playing dead is to use the opportunity to advance our goals strategically. We want to use their weapon aimed at us to blowback at them.
We don't want to fall for it as you say, we want a sort of judo move to reverse the maneuver on them.
In the Vietnam war, they covered up the Gulf of Tonkin incident, but your protests did get the troops home at least. That was a significant if partial victory. You are correct that they got away with the Oklahoma City bombing investigation, but you and I weren't there to support Gen. Partin then. The truth movement is here now, let's make a difference.
Be wary, but don't be paralyzed by fear into complacency. Don't think that your current fascist government is as bad as it can get, things can get much worse for you if nobody stops the conspiracists from carrying out their plans.
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