I am With Gilad Atzmon on this subject He is Jewish and he doesnt use fear to persuade.

The Holocaust Religion

"Yeshayahu Leibowitz, the philosopher who was an observant orthodox Jew, told me once: "The Jewish religion died 200 years ago. Now there is nothing that unifies the Jews around the world apart from the Holocaust." (Uri Avnery[3])

Philosopher Yeshayahu Leibowitz, the German born Hebrew University professor, was probably the first to suggest that the Holocaust has become the new Jewish religion. 'The Holocaust' is far more than historical narrative, it indeed contains most of the essential religious elements: it has its priests (Simon Wiesenthal, Elie Wiesel, Deborah Lipstadt, etc.) and prophets (Shimon Peres, Benjamin Netanyahu and those who warn about the Iranian Judeocide to come). It has its commandments and dogmas ('never again', 'six million', etc.). It has its rituals (memorial days, Pilgrimage to Auschwitz etc.). It establishes an esoteric symbolic order (kapo, gas chambers, chimneys, dust, Musselmann, etc.). It has its shrines and temples (Yad Vashem, the Holocaust Museum and now the UN). If this is not enough, the Holocaust religion is also maintained by a massive economic network and global financial infrastructures (Holocaust industry a la Norman Finkelstein). Most interestingly, the Holocaust religion is coherent enough to define the new 'antichrists' (the Deniers) and it is powerful enough to persecute them (Holocaust denial laws).

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"The ugly truth is that 9/11 and the holocaust are forever intertwined"

and people like you are making sure of it.

in the past has included interviews with Christopher Bollyn. CNN used Bollyn like a weapon against us for his perceived anti-semitic positions.

what are you more interested in? 9/11? or the holocaust/zionism question?

because - like it or not - linking these issues is destroying this movement.

Not the holocaust Truth movement

Holocaust denial
Space Beams
No Planes
Mini-Nukes
Pods

just the OBVIOUS poison to this movement. most morons get this. but this is just my opinion.

and - of course - accusing me of being an agent should be off limits. (one of your favorite accusations)

I think Nico Haupt should be added to the list of things not to mention. Also, references to feces and swastikas. Oh wait, that's exactly half your posts right there, gone!

I also don't think it's all that necessary to accuse you of being an agent--your actions and words speak for themselves. What is interesting is how you INSIST on not being called an agent. As far as I'm concerned, ANYONE here could be an agent, and NO ONE is exempt from scrutiny in that sense.

I think the fact that you are so defensive, AND the one who tries to crown himself the "spotter of disinfo" based on your obsession with Nico, pretty much outs you.

But hey, that's just my opinion.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

LOL

i feel okay with this dichotomy

you accuse me of being an agent - denouncing me for fighting the defilement of my local church with swastikas - while you yourself defend the holocaust deniers.

anyone see a pattern here> anyone? anyone?

"Holocaust Denial"

Insistence upon marrying these two words into a phrase, as if continuing to pretend that you have not heard that it really doesn't exist in any real and pervasive manner, is telling.

It is absurd ab intitio (from the beginning), to accuse someone of denying the holocaust, in a phrase simple.

What you are perpetuating yourself, John, is the use of an absurd phrase. Again, I'm sure you've heard.

What IS BEING DENIED is the ground to stand upon... that the holocaust against humanity perpetrated by bastards such as those sick f'n Nazis... was a crime ONLY against jews.

You would sustain more sympathy (from me, at least), if you made a better effort at explaining the situation more clearly, than just saying "Holocaust Denial" shouldn't be given the time of day... because it surely has been given more time for clarity than you seem interested in acknowledging.

What say you?

stepping into a discussion that long ago digressed into extremes.

suffuce it to say that SOME PEOPLE seem intent in LINKING the 911 Truth movement to holocaust denials.

my opinion is that anyone who persists in dragging the holocaust into the 911 Truth movement - and linking them - is damaging this movement.

now - i think you probably already know this.

the secondary issue is the strange phenomenon here of DISRUPTION that occurs simply because i DARED to state this. usually avoid certain people for this reason - but - given the disturbances lately with swastikas defiling my local church - and the disturbance in Arizona - i this this is a sufficient enough reason to take on this fight - and let the chips fall where they may.

the jons also insist that flight 77 hit the pentagom and say that it hurts the movement if you say flight 77 didnt hit the pentagon...

Each of you is annoying as shit in your own way.

Do us all a favor and all of you take your egos elsewhere and STFU already. Open your mouths when it is useful and STFU when it isn't.

Thanks!!!

Hey Webster, you forgot one...

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

http://www.911blogger.com/node/6691