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10 False Flags That Changed the World
Blogger Joe Crubaugh has just finished an excellent series posted on his blog, Hard-Boiled Dreams of the World;
10 False Flags that Changed the World
10. Nero, Christians, and the Great Fire of Rome
9. Remember the Maine, to Hell with Spain
7. Secrets of the Reichstag Fire
4. Israeli Terrorist Cell Uncovered in Egypt
3. U.S.-Sponsored Terrorism: Operation Northwoods
2. Phantoms in the Gulf of Tonkin
{{drumroll}}
NUMBER ONE
The September 11, 2001 Attacks
Awesome work, Joe!
BBC
Oklahoma City...
I think Oklahoma City should replace one of those events.
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Goddamn loading problems...
Maybe "Jenny Revolution"
Maybe "Jenny Revolution" wouldn't mind, but I'M all about 20th century technology!
;-)
Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.
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Grrr...argh!
You know you've earned respect
when no one dares to vote down your doubleposts to shrink them in order to save space. ^_^
You're sweet...;-)
It helps I try to add something witty to entertain...
Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.
Oh do be careful
some have been calling me he who doth dare speak about that thou shalt not speak about lately, and it might be infectious...
Nah, OC was a false-flag
Nah, OC was a false-flag fumble: they tried to blame it on those insrutable muslims, then it went pear shaped on the bastards. That reduced it's psy-op potential to little more that Ruby Ridge, and Waco, "shock and awe" with a domestic, not foriegn, agenda.
Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.
But OC further taught them
But OC further taught them how easy it was to control media reporting and do damage control if necessary. They utilized the lessons learned on 9/11.
On the other hand, I'm not sure how badly Hitler really *needed* the false-flag incident against Poland. Perhaps it was more of a nice-to-have thing.
Maybe they could have just announced that Polish troops had crossed the border a couple of times without any "evidence" provided by a false-flag attack, and that would have been enough. (The same with the Soviets' self-inflicted Mainila shots, which they blamed on Finland.)
The importance of false flag attacks should not be underestimated, but not overestimated either.
The FBI Bombed the WTC in 1993
It was the FBI that bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. None of this would be known today if it were not for the FBI's undercover agent Emad Ali Salem taping his conversations with his FBI handlers (unbeknownst to them). Salem thought that the FBI might try to pin it on him so he took measures to protect himself. Indeed, without the FBI the '93 WTC bombing would never have happened, as it was agent Salem who built the bomb for the would-be Muslim "terrorists." Salem wanted to use fake ingredients for the "bomb" but the FBI ordered him to make a real one. When the making of the bomb was complete Salem told the FBI that they could now arrest the would-be terrorists, but the FBI refused to stop the bombing. After agent Salem went public with his tapes in a news conference the FBI found it necessary to pay him over a million dollars to shut him up.
For more on the above, see the below New York Times articles:
"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast," Ralph Blumenthal, New York Times, October 28, 1993, Section A, Page 1, Column 4;
"Tapes in Bombing Plot Show Informer and F.B.I. at Odds," Ralph Blumenthal, New York Times, October 27, 1993, Section A, Page 1, Column 4:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b3c830e34de.htm
http://stateterror.web1000.com/fbi-bombed-wtc-new-york-times.html
And see also:
"Who Bombed The World Trade Center? FBI Bomb Builders Exposed," Paul DeRienzo, Frank Morales and Chris Flash, The Shadow, October 1994/January 1995 Issue:
http://pdr.autono.net/WhoBombedWTC.html
On the above webpage you can find the below two audio clips from one of Emad A. Salem's recorded telephone conversations with one of his FBI handlers, FBI Special Agent John Anticev:
http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/emad%20salem.mp3
http://stateterror.web1000.com/emad-salem.mp3 (Backup copy.)
The above clip is an excerpt from the below longer clip:
http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/SalemWBAI.mp3
http://stateterror.web1000.com/SalemWBAI.mp3 (Backup copy.)
The above clips are from a broadcast on WBAI Radio in the city of New York which aired this taped conversation between Emad A. Salem and FBI Special Agent John Anticev.
The below transcript is from 2:57 to 4:31 min:sec from the longer clip (SalemWBAI.mp3):
""
FBI Special Agent John Anticev: But, uh, basically nothing has changed. I'm just telling you for my own sake that nothing, that this isn't a salary, that it's--you know. But you got paid regularly for good information. I mean the expenses were a little bit out of the ordinary and it was really questioned. Don't tell Nancy I told you this. [Nancy Floyd is another FBI Special Agent who worked with Emad A. Salem in his informant capacity.]
FBI undercover agent Emad A. Salem: Well, I have to tell her of course.
Anticev: Well then, if you have to, you have to.
Salem: Yeah, I mean because the lady was being honest and I was being honest and everything was submitted with a receipt and now it's questionable.
Anticev: It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the ordinary.
Salem: Okay. Alright. I don't think it was. If that's what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the D.A. and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful, great case!
Anticev: Well.
Salem: And then he put his head in the sand and said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a bitch." [Deep breath.] Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it.
Anticev: No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can.
Salem: Of course, I appreciate that.
Anticev: And as far as the payments go, and everything like that, they're there. I guarantee you that they are there.
""
The following exchange is from 8:00 to 8:34 min:sec on the longer clip (SalemWBAI.mp3):
""
FBI undercover agent Emad A. Salem: [Have] you ever verified information and you find me falsifying any information to the Bureau?
FBI Special Agent John Anticev: Falsify? No. No.
Salem: No. Alright. So, every single information I supplied, it's very excellent and correct.
I was talking to El Sayyid Nosair's [I'm not sure if this is the correct name that Salem says] wife yesterday, and she's going to visit him today, and I will be going to visit him next week, as per the arrangement. What am I supposed to do this trip? I don't have money to do this trip. And then to go over there and the guy will ask me to build a bomb again. ...
""
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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf
False Flags of Our Fathers
THANX
I would add the USS Liberty and I think the Korean War 1950-53 which killed 35,000 Americans and thousands more ...
may have a false flag???
False Flags that are paid for in blood ,money and endless suffering that protects the privleged while destroying the Freedoms of the masses.
"During the Six Day War between Israel and the Arab States, the American intelligence ship USS Liberty was attacked for 75 minutes in international waters by Israeli aircraft and motor torpedo boats. Thirty-four men died and 174 were wounded.
The attack, which was a war crime, has been a matter of controversy ever since. Survivors and many key government officials including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, former JCS Chairman Admiral Thomas Moorer, and nearly every senior American intelligence professional say it was no accident. Israel and its supporters insist it was a "tragic case of misidentification" and charge that the survivors are either lying or too emotionally involved to see the truth.
Israel claims they mistook our ship for the out-of-service Egyptian horse carrier El Quseir and that we brought the attack upon ourselves by operating in a war zone without displaying a flag. Not so. We were in international waters, far from any fighting, and flew a bright, clean, new American flag. The flag we flew when the torpedo boats approached is on display at the National Cryptologic Museum, Fort Meade, Maryland and can be seen there, or in the USS Liberty Images Archive. The flag we flew during most of the air attack will be permanently displayed at the Cold War Museum near Washington, DC.
Our commanding officer, Captain William Loren McGonagle, received the Congressional Medal of Honor for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty during the attack. The Congressional Medal of Honor is the highest award our country can bestow. To avoid embarrassing our attackers, Captain McGonagle's Medal of Honor was presented in a quiet ceremony in the Washington Navy Yard instead of in the White House by the President as is customary."
There are many more examples as well.
Abraham Lincoln had a conspiracy theory that got him similarly demonized as "Spotty" Lincoln that then-pres. Polk had engineered the Mexican-American war.
You could go back further and point out that the Declaration of Independance is also a conspiracy theory, with the main conspirators being King George and his court.
It's only recently that the phrase and what it means has become villified as unpatriotic, and that is because the ruling system is inherently a conspiracy in itself.
"The Forgotten War"
Another false flag..
sounds like the Military Industrial complex had this one planned for yrs also..
as 911 was in the cooker possibly as far back as the 1970s..
Kissinger wanted permanent US bases in the ME.
"War is Personal"
look at the death counts for any of the many US wars.
911 is the launching pad for the GWOT named by Rummy as" the Long War"
The Long War will intensify the police state wars against the US Citizenry.
Natl ID's in May 2008.
http://www.911review.com/articles/anon/false_flag_perations.html
"Korean War, 1950-1953: South Korean incursions (the Tiger regiment etc.) into North Korea (1949) led to contrary claims and into war. The cause of this war propably was covert action involving leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the US military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities.) After the unpublished hostilities in 1949, the communist powers were strongly backing North Korea.
Chiang Kai Sek was being abandoned, isolated and falling prey to the powerful communist Chinese operations. The right-wing South Korean ruler was expected to loose the soon-to-be-elections. The American military-industrial complex went into high gear again, and huge government orders for equipment were flowing in.
The American-led UN forces had difficult times early in the war, but after sufficient forces arrived they advanced victoriously and penetrated deep into the North Korea. The strong Chino-Russian intervention into the war once again turned the tides, the Chinese with vast armies on ground, and the Soviets less visibly with large numbers of aircraft, nearly costing the UN forces the war.
Finally the front stabilised along the original 38th parallel armistice line. The war resulted in the death of 3 million Korean Chinese and the destruction of virtually all of the Korean cities, and left Taiwan in strong American protection and South Korea firmly in the hands of the right-wing president Syngman Rhee. Some 55,000 Americans lost their lives.
{incorrect number}"
36,516 in country deaths {much more accurate number}
Chomsky on USS Liberty
He argued to me that the Israel knew from the beginning that it was a U.S. ship. The idea, according to him, was to sink the ship, because it was spying on Israeli communications in the Golan. When I asked him how the Israeli thought they could get away with it, he said they just counted on it and that nations often take incredible risks.
Not surprisingly, Chomsky denies the possibility that USS Liberty was a false-flag operation.
Well, if THAT's an appropriate punishment for spying
take care next time, art students and NSA.
you can add this to the list of spying, chomsky...
At the heart of the investigation are two people who work at The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a powerful pro-Israel lobby in Washington. The FBI investigation, headed up by Dave Szady, has involved wiretaps, undercover surveillance and photography that CBS News was told document the passing of classified information from the mole, to the men at AIPAC, and on to the Israelis.
CBS sources say that last year the suspected spy, described as a trusted analyst at the Pentagon, turned over a presidential directive on U.S. policy toward Iran while it was, "in the draft phase when U.S. policy-makers were still debating the policy." This put the Israelis, according to one source, "inside the decision-making loop" so they could "try to influence the outcome." [CBS News]
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/motherofallscandals.html
Hm
That probably qualifies as the top 10, but this list probably needs an Honorable Mention section that would include, but not be limited to such events (which didn't quite change the world but did serve their purposes) as:
- London 7/7 bombings
- Pre-Gulf War incubator baby hoax
- [I'm presently out of ideas. Comment with more honorable mentions :)]
And how did Operation Northwoods change the world if it never actually got done [Kennedy refused to sign it? Wasn't that how it went? I don't have time to go re-reading stories right this second..]? Or is it counted because the *idea* was passed down for later use?
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The META message of 9/11 truth
This emphasized what I recently posted on the Cindy Sheehan blog...
ALL GOVERMENTS LIE TO START WARS.
If we expose the truth and lies of 9/11 we can undercut the trend to commit false flag operations to start wars.
This is SO very important right now considering what might happen with Iran.
The 9/11 truth movement is poised make an historical breakthrough in the path to world peace.
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How did CNN and BBC have foreknowledge of the WTC7 collapse, yet five years later, the government cannot explain it?
It's people like this who need to be educated
on false-flag terror. This 'useful idiot' is using his popularity on youtube to call for a BOYCOTT of the truth movement, and is spreading propaganda to the effect that Iran is going to pull off the next 911.The worst thing ; he thinks he's anti-Bush/ anti-war/ ant-torture. Please truthers let's knock him off his pedestal.
"Please truthers let's knock
"Please truthers let's knock him off his pedestal."
With love.
Okay, now I'm channeling LeftWright...
Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.
YOUR WRONG!
Truth hurts?You have no idea what I stand for.
So you agree with him that 911 wasn't an inside job?And how exactly am I a gatekeeper for Isreal again? I wonder if you even watched the whole video. Warren often unknowingly mixes 10 percent fact with 90 percent bs.
Whoever he is, he's hateful AND ignorant
Not a good combination.
Perhaps if he spent less time raging and more time studying ALL the facts he might be able to find his way past his own dysfunction.
Perhaps I'm missing something, Building 7, why did you think it necessary to inflict this on 911Blogger?
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
Psychological Study in Denial Mainly :)
1. He gets thousands of veiws and comments on Youtube, unfortunately alot of people take him seriously (I know , hard to beleive), and is misrepresenting our movement as "no-planers".I want to set the record straight.
2. Youtube is a fronteir in the infowar. And lately thruthers have been outweighing the ignorant and the paid shills in his comment section and others. I want to encourage this trend particularily as it inoculates against future false flag events.
3. He had nicely convinced himself that the 911 truth movement was just some small fringe cult and that if it were otherwise he would already know about it . I like to shatter that illusion with a deluge of international Truth.
GREAT FALSE FLAG = BATTLE OF SAGUNTUM
Maybe the greatest False Flag of all time was the Battle of Sanguntum (219 BC).
Hannibal Barca of Carthage anniliated the small city of Saguntum, starting the Second Punic War.
The eventual victory by the Roman Republic made it a world power.
Can't find good details on the net for this, but these links provide some tidbits:
http://www.ga.k12.pa.us/Academics/MS/8th/romanhis/Forum/jeffa/battle.htm
Quote from link:
"When the Saguntians, who were allies with the Romans, were on the journey back, they killed a number of the Taressian settlers who just happened to be allies of Carthage."
Why would a small city attack Hannibal's allies? Were they nuts, or was this a False Flag?
Another link:
http://www.livius.org/ha-hd/hannibal/hannibal.html
Quote from link:
"Already in Antiquity, the question whether the capture of Saguntum was a violation of a treaty between Hasdrubal and the Roman Republic was discussed."
Did Rome really have a treaty with Sanguntum, or was this really a DOUBLE FALSE FLAG event?
My money, based on the future of Rome, gobbling up weaker neighbors, is on the False Flag hypothesis.
5.The Myth of Pearl Harbor! FDR into war in 1940! C-span censors
Please educate yourself on the FDR's role in the begining of WWII, specifically the origins of Africa campaign already in 1940!!! (clear intent and commitment to full scale engagement in the WWII by the US).
And the role of the espionage network connected and reporting directly to the White House bypassing thus the other branches of government. Pls. this is not FDR bashing per se just a fine historical account.
This is top stuff, historical account compiled from memoirs of these people and european archives. Accidently spotted on the C-span books videos lately. Someone should rip that before it goes down:
FDR's 12 Apostles - Vaughan, Hal - Author
?!Well they pulled the video from the free archive! I've watched it few days ago and recommened it all over, now it's only hidden in their webshop, wtf??
It used to be on the top of the list few days ago here:
http://www.booktv.org/history/archive.asp screenshots: http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&r... http://www.c-spanstore.org/shop/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&p...
Pls. join me and write c-span to explain why they deleted the video file ?!
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Excellent work.
The history of false-flag events is absolutely crucial for people to understand the current situation.
For those few who haven't heard of it reading this, Alex Jones' Terrorstorm is a great resource if you would like to know more on the history of government-sponsored terror.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230&q=terrorstorm
Also see the BBC documentary "The Power of Nightmares"
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7677803096919760113&q=the+power+o...