Let's not let them do this and just walk away.

MAKE A COMPLAINT (BE POLITE)

HelenBoaden.Complaints@bbc.co.uk
guy.smith@bbc.co.uk
mike.rudin@bbc.co.uk

And send them this for reference material, since they seem to have impaired sources;

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http://erroneousbusczh.homestead.com/9-11Plot.html
9/11=PNAC PLot

I mailed this little complaint to Helen, Guy and Mike.

"The BBC2 documentary about the 9/11 truth movement was very disapointing.
Aren't the BBC supposed to be objective and go by the facts?
Instead we saw a common hit piece filled with emotional arguments. Constantly using the term conspiracy in a derogatory way.
So what about the official story about the 19 Muslim hijackers?
Is that not a conspiracy theory? Of course it is.
Coming from a regime shrouded in secrecy and with a proven record of lying.

I did not expect the BBC to lend it self to such garbage."

Mr Smith
Your “investigation” into the events of 911 and associated “conspiracies” was a sham, a disgrace and an embarrassment to the BBC. Its biased, emotive and shocking lack of balance is just what one expects from so-called “independent” mainstream media, whose repetition of Government propaganda is seemingly acceptable as “investigative journalism”.
Your subsequent claims to have followed the “evidence” are laughable. Here is just a small sample of the “evidence” you omitted to consider or discuss:-
Prior Events and Government
• Northwoods document – prior planning of “terrorist events against US people”
• PNAC call for a “New Pearl Harbor” prior to 911 to justify “war on terror”
• 911 military exercises. Who could and did organise those? Why were aircraft removed specifically from around the DC and NY areas.
• NORAD lack of response. Faultless scrambles occurred 67 times in the previous 12 months, but failed all 4 times on 911.
• Until June 2001, everything worked fine, then Rumsfeld changed the pre-existing successful rules which controlled the use of fighters against hijacked jets. Why change what wasn’t broken? Why insist that HE personally be required to approve any attacks.
• Why were fighters scrambled from Langley, Virginia, 100 miles away to “protect” the pentagon, rather than from Andrews, 11 miles away? Why from Otis, Massachusetts, so far away from NY when there were others just down the road?
• Why were the “hijackers” not listed on passenger manifests?
• Why were NONE of the video cameras in the departure airports working?
• FAA / NORAD tapes of air traffic control were (illegally) systematically destroyed afterwards, including taped depositions made by controllers within hours of the “attacks”. Why and by whom? At whose orders?
WTC 1 & 2
• Why were basement explosion fires and explosions not reported or investigated?
• The seismic record shows multiple explosions and 10-second collapse,
• Bush is on tape admitting watching the first “attack”, which was not live on public TV.
• Bush did not react either to the news of the first “attack” or the second. This has never been addressed by either the White House or the media.
• Explosions were reported before, during and after the collapses below and above ground level. These were not investigated or reported.
• Firemen reported that the fires were almost out before the collapses happened, not raging infernos that would melt steel.
• Steel cannot be melted by burning aviation fuel. Molten steel was seen pouring from the building and in the basement months later. This was not addressed or investigated.
• The controlled demolitions of WTC 1 & 2
o Explosions at both ground level and below the collapse line
o Both towers fell at freefall speed. That makes the “pancake theory” impossible.
o Both towers fell straight down and did not topple over as they would have done in a “collapse”
o Steel girders were ejected at high speed from both towers during collapse. This is impossible if this was a “collapse”
o Molten steel in the basements and falling from the buildings. Thermite-like clouds of white smoke were seen rising from the bottom of the buildings before and during collapse. This was not even mentioned.
o Photo and video of steel girders, cut at 45 degree angles (indicating thermite demolition) are available. These were not mentioned.
• NO steel-framed building has even collapsed from fire, despite much more intense, hot and long-lasting fires than either tower 1, 2 or 7. 3 fell, in what appeared to be controlled demolitions on the same day on 9/11, yet no comparisons were attempted.
• The “Dancing Israelis” were not mentioned and have never been dealt with by the mainstream media, even though some have since been revealed as Mossad agents!
• No steel and titamium engine parts, heavy landing gear parts or fire-hardened CVRs or FDRs have been recovered (officially), but paper passports survived, conveniently identifying “hijackers”. This is not credible.
• Rescue and clean-up workers reported recovering several of the FDRs and CVRs, but this is still denied by the FBI.
• Up to 10 of the hijackers, including 3 from “flight 11” have been identified as still being alive. They are still listed on the official list of “hijackers” that appeared within hours of the “attacks”. This shows the official story is patently false.
• Much of the steel etc from the site was illegally destroyed and shipped overseas without any forensic investigation. This one fact proved a high-level conspiracy of monstrous proportions. Other evidence was destroyed, covered up and denied, all illegally by official sources and continues to be so denied, despite proof to the contrary.
• The issue of share profiteering has never been addressed by the media and was ignored.
• Billions of dollars worth of Gold held in and below both towers was missing. Gold does not burn, evaporate or compress. Where did it go. A few hundred millions worth was recovered for show.
• Both buildings were leased and double-insured weeks before the event, although they were half-empty and haemorrhaging money. This is incredibly suspicious. The lessee in on tape admitting the demolition of building 7.
• It would have been illegal to demolish the buildings in the manner they came down, due to the content of asbestos and other toxins. Coneviently, the massive cost this would have entailed was avoided.
Pentagon
• The trajectory of the “plane” that hit the pentagon was outside the flight envelope of a B757.
• It was also outside the abilities of the “terrible pilot” who was claimed to have flown the “plane”.
• No significant aircraft pieces were visible immediately after the incident.
• There were no marks on the ground immediately afterwards, where we are told the 757 bounced.
• The hole in the building is not consistent with a 757 hitting the building (as reported).
• The explanation of the fuel doing the damage does not add up. If the wings didn’t penetrate (see the photos immediately afterwards), how would this fuel get into the building?
• Cheney is reported to have been warned several times about the incoming aircraft and to have prevented its interception. Why and why has it not been investigated?
• Numerous people reported seeing a small jet / missile and not a 757. This was not addressed.
• The engine parts found and displayed were not consistent with a 757.
• The FBI confiscated video tapes from surrounding buildings immediately afterwards. Why was this? Why have they (in the majority) never been released? Why only one time-laps series of (doctored) images from one pentagon camera?
• Why were frames missing from the images?
• The “plane” conveniently hit the side of the building that had been recently fortified, on the opposite side of the building from Rumsfelds office.
• Are we expected to believe there is no missile defence system on the Pentagon?
• Immediately after the event, wooden desks and paper files can be seen undamaged at the edges of the affected area. This is not consistent with a major fuel explosion which you describe.
• CVR/FDR tapes have never been released (although you showed an image of one!). It is claimed they were, at least partially, destroyed. This is virtually unheard of. (especially from 4 aircraft)
• A further “hijacker” from flight 77 has been found alive and well!
• In the days before the “attacks” the pentagon was found to have “lost” trillions of dollars it could not account for. This was conveniently forgotten after the “attacks”
• We are expected to believe that the whole “plane” evaporated, yet the FBI claims to have identified almost all the passengers and others. This is not credible.
Shanksville
• No significant aircraft wreckage was detectable immediately after the event or thereafter. This is unprecedented (except from the pentagon!).
• No bodies were found. Or luggage. Or seats. Or landing gear. Or engines. Or FDRs/CVRs etc.
• The cellphone calls reported to have been made were impossible – it cannot be done.
• The calls were also improbable and reek of being faked. No-one uses their full name when calling their mother!
• Many eye-witnesses reported seeing a military aircraft in the vicinity immediately before the “crash”, identified by many as an A-10 attack aircraft.
• The extent of burning around the site is inconsistent with the reported fire. (Until the next day, when it miraculously increased).
• Yet another hijacker on this “flight” has since been found alive and well. He is still listed as an official “hijacker”.
WTC 7
• As reported, no aircraft hit WTC7.
• The fires in the building were not significant and scattered.
• ATF agents had reportedly been told not to come to work. They didn’t!
• FDNY are on video telling people to get back before the building is demolished.
• BBC reported the building collapse 20 minutes before it did!
• Silverstein is on tape reporting that they decided to “pull it”, slang for controlled demolition.
• The building did not collapse, it fell neatly into its own footprint, a controlled demolition.
• Again, there are many signs of thermite usage.
• Again, the evidence was illegally destroyed before any forensic examination could take place.
• The building was quickly rebuilt in a few months the following year. Did the plans just happen to exist beforehand or are US architects really that good?
Others
• The 911 commission has been exposed in many arenas as a fraud, cover up and has been proven to contain lies and inconsistencies.
• When no-one else could fly (and only just after commercial flights could do so) numerous Saudis left on a chartered flight. This shows corruption and complicity at the highest levels.
• All news organisations immediately reported the same theories instantly. No-one departed from the scripts prepared and supplied to them.
• Within hours, if not minutes, Bin-Laden and the CIA-front “Al-Quaida” were being blamed. This is simply not believable. (especially when the family were later allowed to leave before anyone else and without any investigation)
• The plan to invade Iraq was already approved and awaiting its “catalyst”.

(incidentally, the Mike Rudin mail link is dead)
Brian

If you prefer the old fashioned method (at least they cannot press delete).

Write to :

BBC Complaints
PO Box 1922
Glasgow
UK
G2 3WT

More ways to complain : http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/


Best wishes and good luck

letter campain. Would be great.

The postman and the post office at the BBC should at least know what's all about. Maybe all of us can write such a letter and maybe even on the outside the reason for the complain, to make it more "visible"

Complain about BBC2 "documentary" The Conspiracy Files / Guy Smith

in big letters?

The comments on the story you asked to bury.

It amazes me the amount of people who keep regurgitating half truths.... and have really no concept of anything material. They try to explain Building 7... It really is sad.

I have often wondered why our stories do not get the recognition needed on Digg.... because they are going up against a 70% group of ignorance. They are burying our stories while we let their side soar with no resistance.

They absolutely will not listen to reason.... hell they are still speaking about pancaking floors.
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Ignorance is NOT Bliss

Guy Smith gave another reaction in the programme "Newswatch" well I guess we are still cooks...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/default.stm

Ain't it a bitch? LOL

My advice. Researching government counter intelligence (COINTELPRO) techniques, 'disinfo', is high priority. Perfect example of this among us is Jim Fetzer & the "Space Beams", & Rick Siegel & the 'Hologram' crew. There are more cunning agents than these, trust me.

Other than that, do your homework, & try to bring this info to as many others as you can. There are many great sites linked here (on the left side of the page). Here are some links to excellent videos to get you started.

The Power Of Nightmares - (When BBC was still relevant)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7815944823333801032&q=power+of+n...

The Money Masters
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8753934454816686947&q=money+mas...

America Freedom to Fascism
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=America+F...

9/11 The Myth and the Reality
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-275577066688213413&sourceid=doc...

9/11 Mysteries
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+Myste...

9/11 Press For Truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250&q=press+for+...

(Not responsible for any disenchantment or rage you WILL feel after waking from the fog.)

Thank You Very Much...

I will get on those videos right now.

-={Guy R. Vestal, NYC Expatriate]=-

...but, you have to add "Terrorstorm" or Tarpley's "Synthetic Terror" book to expose the concept and documented history of state-sponsored terror to justify national military aggression.....

And, of course, to "break that tactic in front of their faces..."

:)

Got a heads-up by Robert Rice (thanks) on a four part series, that details how media and "public relations" have got us into this mess in the first place.

A must see series...


Link :     The Century Of The Self by Adam Curtis - Parts 1 to 4 on Google Video


When you get a chance, check it out, video quality is ok'ish, sound quality is very good.

Best wishes and good luck

because he is making it up.

Do these lists help?

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/passengers.html

Thanks, Eye. See? These lists do have the names.
Great find.

Thank you EyeOnThe911Ball, those trial exhibits were exactly what i was looking for =)

...is a completely misguided point. It's all based on a list posted on the internet soon after Time Zero, and invoked by DRG repeatedly. It was designated as a list of "victims," so it was perfectly natural to omit the alleged hijackers. If you counted the names on the victims lists, the names numbered five fewer (four fewer for 93) than the total passenger loads released by the airlines.
The official manifests have never been released by the Federal Bureau of Intimidation, just as nothing else has.

how did they knew immediately who the hijackers were?

Arab names? Maybe the ones long known as intelligence operatives from Saudi Arabia?

I mean come on, there were other "outlandish" sounding passenger names as well.

Alex is eviscerating this weasel Smith. He also implied that he will be putting together a debunking video of the BBC doc.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

It was just incredible how he couldn't answer any concrete question. He didn't even try to refute any of the evidence Alex, Dylan and Paul brought up. It was just his standard answer every time "yeah, that's right, but if you look at the broad picture I just don't see any evidence of an inside job."

I really like the idea of making a video to debunk the BBC's debunking. If it was done right it could be a very powerful tool against these debunking techniques that just keep repeating again and again.

It literally made my stomach turn to listen to Guy Smith. He sounds like a scripted robot repeating his sycophant punch-line: "I couldn't see any evidence of a inside job" to each bit of evidence proving the contrary. I mean how can these people call themselves journalists!?

And his feigned, yet loaded comments like "It's great that we are discussing these ‘conspiracy theories’ " and "watch my doc and make up your own mind". Ok so why include the completely ridiculous theories like the forewarning of 4000 jews, the C-130 story or the family guilt material. Make up your own mind??! More like "Watch my disinformation propaganda piece and let me mould your mind"...

It's just sick. But really, what else could we expect. I mean would the BBC really put out a balanced 9/11 doc. If it did, it would signal the end of the US administration, and eventually the UK government itself. At least now with have clear confirmation of the BBC’s journalistic value.

No, change won't come from the top, it will come from the bottom, as it always has.

A debunking video of this show will be candy to the eyes though. Such a blatant Orwellian piece will go down in history. Guy Smith, you can be proud of yourself. Your position in the annals of the Ministry of Truth is truly assured.

30.66MB mp3 file

http://www.zshare.net/audio/guysmith-interview-mp3.html

Enjoy!