You must be kidding- the man who killed John O'Neill?

Where are the handcuffs?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

That post is full of very interesting information. Excellent work by you and stickdog. Hauer is certainly in the middle of this, with connections to the amerithrax scare, Kroll Inc., John O'Neill, and Giuliani.

And there he was talking to Dan Rather, explaining "what really happened."

Our local newspaper in town ran a front page cover story entitled, Fire and Damage Bring Towers Down. I thought it very distrubing that after no professional analysis that the 'cover story' was being circulated nationwide by this AP story. The article interviewed an engineer (sorry don't have the paper with me at home for the guys name) who stated his expert opinion that fire and damage brought the buildings down. This story reminded me so much of the Christ Church Star New Zealand story that Lt. Col. Fletcher Prouty read about Lee Harvey Oswald before LHO had even been charged with a crime.

I think the head designer of the WTC said it best...

I would imagine that if you took the top expert in that type of work and gave him the assignment of bringing these buildings down with explosives, I would bet that he could do it."-Saturday, February 27, 1993-John Skilling, Head Structural Engineer WTC

09/12/2001 - Updated 11:12 PM ET
Extreme heat, 'pancaking' doom towers into rubble
By David Lieberman, USA TODAY

NEW YORK — Strange as it sounds, the World Trade Center towers lived up to engineers' hopes in the moments after two hijacked jets slammed into their upper floors Tuesday morning. The north tower remained standing for more than an hour and a half after it was hit by American Airlines Flight 11. The south tower held on for almost an hour after it suffered more serious damage from the impact of United Airlines Flight 175. The buildings withstood the impact of 400,000-pound Boeing 767s crashing into them at perhaps more than 300 mph.

"They rocked back and forth, and then stopped," says Masoud Sanayei, professor of civil and environmental engineering at Tufts University. "If there was no fire, we might have demolished the buildings a year or so down the road but people would have had an opportunity to evacuate."

But there were fires, fed by the estimated 60,000 pounds of jet fuel that each jet was likely carrying. These infernos may have hit 2,000 degrees.

That was just too much for the steel and concrete structures. Steel loses more than half its strength at 1,500 degrees.

What followed was a building designer's nightmare. Some of the upper floors probably sagged 2 feet or more before finally breaking loose from the steel outer frames and inner cores that supported the buildings.

That dumped tons of concrete, fixtures and furniture on lower floors. A single floor could weigh as much as 3,000 tons. The falling debris started a top-down domino effect engineers call pancaking.

"The momentum was too much to handle," says William Faschan, a partner at Leslie E. Robertson Associates, the structural engineers for the towers. "A given floor normally could support the weight of three floors. But that assumes the weight is imposed in a gradual manner."

And there was nothing gradual about the process once each tower began to collapse. It took just moments for the growing weight and velocity of the wreckage to rip through lower floors as though they were tissue.

The buildings imploded just as they would if demolition experts had been hired to do the job.

It was a pitiable ending for the 1,362-foot buildings that were engineering marvels, and models of stability, in 1973 when construction was complete.

The 110-story towers were assembled from prefab grills, shipped from as far away as Seattle and Los Angeles and hoisted into place by cranes specially built in Australia for the project. When bolted together, they created more than 130 vertical steel support columns on the exterior, spaced 3 feet 4 inches apart. Horizontal steel beams from this outer tube helped to support the 4-inch concrete floors. They also connected to an inner tube — where the elevators were — which was supported by another set of steel columns.

"It was like a doughnut with this core element providing vertical support," says Tod Rittenhouse, principal of Weidlinger Associates. "This shell had tremendous strength."

Indeed, architect Minoru Yamasaki designed the towers to be far sturdier than state building codes required. The biggest threat to a building that tall is wind. New York insisted that buildings stand in the face of 90 mile per hour storms.

But the towers were "built to withstand the largest hurricane that could be envisioned," Faschan says. The simplicity of the design helped. "It was such a box," says Mysore Ravidra, president of LeMessurier Consultants, the firm that engineered New York's Citicorp building. "It's an engineer's dream for a design."

Still, after the collapse of the World Trade Center towers, many will try to come up with ways to avoid similar calamities.

"We need better materials and methods to extinguish these fires quickly," Sanayei says.

Some say that there's no realistic way to prevent a building from succumbing to such overwhelming attacks. "Nobody could afford it," Ravindra says. "It's almost unthinkable. There is no lesson to be learned. There was nothing in the building that was flawed."

Rittenhouse agrees. "There isn't much you can do" about a fire like the ones ignited by the exploding jets, he says.

Engineers may be able to help nearby buildings, though. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has asked for volunteers to check for damages, and possible improvements, in structures around the World Trade Center — now reduced to seven stories of rubble at the site of what was the north tower and two stories at the south tower.

A 47-story structure in the World Trade Center complex, Building 7, collapsed late Tuesday afternoon as a result of a fire that apparently ignited shortly after the towers were hit. And a nearby structure, One Liberty Plaza, had partially caved in as of late Wednesday.

Source:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/13/towers-collapse.htm

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They obviously had that ready to trot out. And what kind of actual journalist blandly reports that a third skyscraper collapsed due to fire -- when that is completely without precedent?

I had to laugh the first time I saw him, too. He is so obviously scripted, like a really bad movie, right down to the Harley tee shirt. Perfect for Faux News, btw.

Wouldn't it be great if we could track him down?

I'd love to know who he really is and publicizing the fact that he was a plant would go a long way in proving just how completely staged the whole 9/11 event was.

While I wouldn't suggest that we put too much energy into tracking him down, I would think that it wouldn't be that hard to find him. We have his face and voice, after all.

I hope that you and yours are well.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

is such an obvious plant. And so well-practiced. It is the earliest phase of the establishment of the government story.

**** Does anybody have any idea who he is? ****

For me, this is a BIG question. If we can find him we have made a breakthrough. For anyone who doesn't understand, it's the guy in the Fox interview in the first few minutes of '9/11 Mysteries'.

Anyways, thank you 911TruthNC for the great post!!

Yes... does anyone think that people who actually wear Harley Davidson things wear the cap and the t-shirt together? We need to make a mug shot for him, and give him a temporary name, like Ernie.

"...and then we witnessed both towers collapse, obviously due to structural failure because the fires were just too intense."

Riiiiiight, Harley dude. Riiiiiight.

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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

..."Buzz".....

as in, "buzz agent"...

"Who the f*ck talks like that"....?

Infomercial mannequins....

Exactly.

"Oh you guys just keep adding accomplices to this crime...."

Probably one of the same people who planted the explosives.... doing double duty
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We're lookin' for ya!

As in, "Thanks for your spontaneous 'structural failure' expertise, Harley..."