It needs to be demonstrated that prominent members of this movement are having their images usurped for nefarious purposes.

In the 1960’s a antiwar group known as the Students for a Democratic Society included among their ranks Jewish activists Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Mark Rudd, and Paul Krassner. In 1969 the FBI created and distributed a leaflet depicting photos of these four activists super-imposed against swastikas over the headline "LAMPSHADES! LAMPSHADES! LAMPSHADES!"

sound familiar?

The FBI's fallback position was that the leaflets were intended to depict 'satire' and were 'just a joke.'

sound familiar?

the recent attempts to marry up the 911 Truth movement with Nazi imagery, (or what Nico Haupt refers to as "nazi satire") is right out of the same playbook.

Whether this is coincidence or not i do not know. Disinformation? Misinformation? The end result is the same. It is disruption and defamation of character of the worst kind.

Have you ever heard about Diane Sawyer's hit piece on Ronald Reagan? She flashed dozens of examples of Ronald Reagan's manipulative photo ops on the screen while explaining how Reagan was lying with his images. The White House Press secretary called to thank her for repeating their images so prominently on television.

Images are powerful.

that your point should be made. I think it is better made in text (as you do in your post.)

I'm saying that in terms of the first impression the page gives, to a casual observer, DRG=disinfo. This is just a consequence of the fact that when looking at a web page (or an ad) information that can be inferred from images (even falsely) is going to have more force than info that comes from a process of deduction (oh, I see, these guys are unfairly using DRG's image.)

you believe defending my church against the posting of swastikas and feces is gestapo - perhaps you shoudl have your head examined.

If you believe defending this community against people like you who post online slander - accusing me and others of planning violent acts - and inciting terrorism - and triggering the FBI counter terrorism task force to squander valuable time investigating your false claims - is gestapo - maybe you should have your head examined.

But - the police will sort this out.

more and more people are stepping forward who have been threatened. some have received mail at their home addresses with threatening content.

i hope you guys know what you are doing because all of this is getting more and more serious with each passing day.

we have now received threatening violent satanic cult materials. if you think this will stand without catching the eye of the community and media and ACLU and local police and the FBI itself you are frankly being a little stupid.

i don't know who you are Fred. I don't know if you have anything directly to do with these violent threats - or if you are just some lone wolf seeking to involve himself in events that do not really concern you. But - either way - your utter lack of respect and objectivity on this issue is unforgivable. Posting swastikas in churches? Mailing people Satanic threats? Whoever you are - i hope you are thinking LONG and HARD about what you are publicly defending - and who you are publicly attacking.

No one can FORCE you to break the law Fred. you can CHOOSE to be a conscientious objector and agree to cease and desist harassing this community.

Its not.

Why don't you focus on smearing one person at a time.

The visual informational impact is negative towards Griffin. As noted by others, the visual impact is all important. Your words, located a good distance away it seemed, will have nearly zero ability to affect the impressio one gets from the picture. Which is negative towards Griffin... not the news rag. I recommend changing that configuration. For what it's worth.

See these posts in our forum for more info:

http://www.truthmove.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=251

http://www.truthmove.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279

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