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Comment on 911Researchers Website Promotes Violence Against Activist John Albanese

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As you all know I have been in the process of assembling legal assistance in dealing with the onslaught of dangerous incitements occurring associated with the New York 911 Truth movement, as well as myriad documented cases of threats that have been occurring.

It has come to my attention that a website 911Researchers.com has run an opinion piece as follows:

Enemy Combatant Status: Render John Albanese to a Black Site?
Submitted by Fred on Tue, 2007-02-06 14:56.

"It is my personal opinion based solely on the email presented here that John Albanese might be a dangerous lunatic who poses a threat to the American way of life. If he poses a clear and present danger to the security of our homeland and to himself, I feel it would be for the best if he were placed in a secret black location where interrogators could use enhanced methods to achieve greater effectiveness in getting the truth out of him. I feel in my gut that he could be an Al Qaida operative, based on the language he uses in that email. As a general rule, it seems to me that any dangerous character making threats could be some kind of "enemy combatant" and should be treated as such."

"Assuming that he has terrorist masters who may eventually withdraw support for his operations, it may not be long before Albanese is eating culturally-appropriate meals and waiting for his overseers to begin a tribunal process. After about six to ten years of humane detention, a tribunal could review his status. If John Albanese behaves recklessly in the future he could pose a grave danger to himself and others. My personal belief is that if John Albanese admits to serious crimes during interrogation, he should be lawfully detained until arrangements can be made for his further incarceration in a purpose-built institution."

"Perhaps the ones who ought to think about retiring are the ones who suggest it first. I have no doubt that if John Albanese is actively planning to commit a terrorist act, such as bombing a church, bus, or synagogue, arrangements could be made for the safe relocation of this "John Albanese" to someplace far away. I trust that he will be treated humanely in keeping with the spirit of the Geneva Convention. I certainly pray that John Albanese will not commit acts of violence against people or property."

"Terrorism is wrong, John Albanese, and if you are thinking of killing anyone you should surrender yourself to the authorities immediately."

Fred

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This of course has been documented and reported this morning to law enforcement authorities, along with the many other cases of threats and harassment that have taken place over the last several months. I have been assured by my lawyers that this language constitutes a threat to my safety, and will be pursued with all vigorous intent to determine the source.

I would like to ask for the support of the community in distributing this. I am putting my faith in all peace loving members of this community to reject the implied threats and insinuation of VIOLENCE that this post represents.

If 9/11 Activists can be threatened in this way, and standing up to those who seek to label us “Nazis” and call for “Death to Nazis” outside a church where peaceful activists are seeking answers to 9/11, then we are all in danger of losing our precious civil liberties.

In the 1960’s a antiwar group known as the Students for a Democratic Society included among their ranks Jewish activists Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Mark Rudd, and Paul Krassner. In 1969 the FBI created and distributed a leaflet depicting photos of these four activists super-imposed against swastikas over the headline "LAMPSHADES! LAMPSHADES! LAMPSHADES!"

Today we see a church in NYC picketed as follows:

Whether this is the product of a governmental program to incite violence against a church is unknown. But, it is nothing less than threatening - and unless we show unity in confronting it, none of us are safe.

Good Work, John

And John should be commended for resisting the urge to name names here... those of us in NYC know.

Have they

..determined the cause of death of Dan Wallace yet?

I will soon, in all probability, be unable to talk about any of this. I may not even be able to release my film. NOT because I am scared - but because it is now all part of an ongoing criminal investigation. Its all very sad in my opinion.

My concern is that there are others in a similar position who are too scared to step forward. No one should ever feel threatened to seek answers or voice opinions in America.

I've heard from Dylan Avery

I've heard from Dylan Avery that Dan Wallace wasn’t murdered, he wouldn’t say how he died but he's been in contact with people and he was getting pissed at individuals who were speculating on the Loose Change boards.

I wouldn’t worry about it, I honestly don't mean to disrespect Dan's memory but he could have died of a drug overdose or something who knows, I don't know enough about the guy. That dude Luke from NY911Truth apparently knows what happened, so you should try and get in contact with him John if you want to find out.

Also I think you should try and release your film no matter what, if people are trying to intimated you in an attempt to stop it being released, the best thing you can do is release it, there's nothing that can be done once it's out there. But there is something that can be done the longer you leave it e.g. harassment and all this other shit. I'd say try your hardest not to tangle the film with legal stuff because releasing it will probably go further to combat this than drawn out legal action etc. Drawn out legal action which you should still do, but not at the expense of what I’m sure is going to turn out to be a critical piece of media.

I'm sorry I brought up Dan

It was wrong.

I am not afraid to release my film. But you do understand I have to follow the directions of my lawyers - choose effective strategies - and execute them. I do not want to undercut my own efforts.

We'll see.

I totally understand dude,

I totally understand dude, but I would have thought you'd be too smart to put some shit in there that THEY can actually legally object to, especially if you’re having a lawyer comb through it.

It's a legitimate question to inquire about Dan's sudden death

It is very suspicious how a 23-year-old truther, the son of a 9/11 firefighter, just passed away in bed. I want foul play totally ruled out (if there was none), and of course I'll still respect him no matter what the cause of death was.

Dan's Dad

I've heard that Dan's dad was a firefighter who was trapped in a stalled elevator cab, in radio contact and working to hack his way out when the sound of the detonations reached his ears. He probably had only a few seconds of terror before he was pulverized. Such an awful mental burden Dan had to carry once he learned the truth.

Its not legitimate

to speculate on his death in the total absence of facts.

Depends. Speculation in the

Depends. Speculation in the informal sense of the word is the first step in researching something odd--that is pointing out the obvious dodginess of an apparently healthy 23 year old activist dying suddenly. I don't know what word you'd prefer to use, but homicide investigators have to be able to "speculate" that much to note a death may be suspicious and investigate accordingly.

However, speculation being passed off as confirmed fact is not legitimate--I agree with you there.

Speculation is fine in its place if not done to excess--that is, one is making it clear one is speculating.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

I will be very disappointed

I will be very disappointed if you can't release your film. Any chance of private screenings?

re: I am the one who made this sign

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re: what does "death to Nazism" mean

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The MINUS function can be very annoying!

You know, one might actually want to read what this meathead had to say for himself. Most likely he exposes himself, but he's been pointed down to below -3 and so I can't read it. (NO THE "HIDE/SHOW THREAD FUNCTION DOES NOT WORK FOR ME.) This shows how counterproductive the minus function can be.

PLEASE:

1) Can someone summarize what "Comrade Shusterman" has to say? Preferably leaving out any scatology. THANK YOU.

2) How about we all recommend to dz and co. a different system. I think it would be great if he were to limit posting size (so that people can stop cutting and pasting 10-page articles) and allow an individual hide/ignore for every post, instead of the plus-minus popularity contest, as though that proves anything. (Not that I don't find it reassuring that Comrade Shusterman isn't getting a "plus.")

Nicholas, Please use firefox

Nicholas,

Please use firefox if at all possible.

Let me know what browser you are using via email if you don't mind, thanks.

I was going to say, "sorry

I was going to say, "sorry Nickey--live with it--you're not missing anything", but your post is so much more contructive.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

i am against censorship also

but slander is not protected free speech. its actually a crime.

the only way to DETERMINE slander is to determine the TRUTHFULNESS of the statements in question. TRUTH actually matters in legal matters of free speech.

so - in order to protect yourself against a slander and harassment charge you would have to PROVE Frank Morales the PRIEST at St Marks Church is in fact a drug trafficer.

Sgood luck with that. i am sure everyone understands what a sensible guy you are based on your choice of words.

"Terrorism is wrong, John

"Terrorism is wrong, John Albanese, and if you are thinking of killing anyone you should surrender yourself to the authorities immediately."

^ That’s just totally nonsensical and bizarre. Rick Siegel’s site is the main hub of disinformation right now, it's disturbing but luckily quite transparent.

And somewhat humorous... or

And somewhat humorous... or at least it would be if they weren't pretending to represent this movement...

here is the latest gut buster by CB_Brooklyn:

Notice the tan building on the left-hand side in the first photo? Isn't it a bit too tall in relation to the angle of the tower and "plane"? Exactly what, and where, is that building anyway? Is it visible in the second photograph below? (It should be in the south east area.) Or is the tan building in Brooklyn? If so, why does it appear the camera was within a few blocks from the south tower?
Bottom line question: Is there any other explanation other than... CARTOON ??

Sad, but kinda funny?

This is of course not about me

The question is whether American law enforcement and civil liberties will ultimately trump police-state type tactics. I could end up dead tomorrow - but that will not put an end to the tension that exists between these conflicting legal interests. Do we still have a Constitution? Are there those who still seek to enforce it? Are there "interests" at play here?

Of course. My personal safety is secondary to those interests. I only regret that i have but one life to give for my country and constitution.

The very nature of this threat is particularly telling. Internment camps? Special renditions? Blackmail? Threats of violence? Accusing me of being Al Qaeda?

Why not threaten me with crucifixion?

Chill dude, this is just

Chill dude, this is just some bizarre freak who (if is more than just a moron, and actually paid disinfo) could just be projecting his/her guilt and concern of might happen to him/her if the truth comes out. Regardless they did the same pathetic shit to GW and who knows what type of insane crap Steven Jones or David Griffin receive, Alex Jones and Dylan Avery have had a ton of f*cked up things sent to them. It just means you’re affective. Don’t be bothered by it, that’s what these clowns like Haupt and Siegel want.

i'm not bothered

its exactly what i expected. in fact - i expected better. its a little weak. not only does it hand me more legal leverage - but it also undercuts its own objectives and strengthens the operational methodologies that are systemically rising up to confront it.

Are you convinced it is an

Are you convinced it is an organized effort against you?
And not just a lone gunman on the loose.
Gary
911truthnc.org
“it is possible to fool all the people all the time—when government and press cooperate.” George Seldes - "legendary investigative reporter"

no

it could be a confederacy of dunces banding together as disinfranchised fools and opportunists.

but - they do obviously work in concert. either way the Constitution applies.

Don't you agree that terrorism is wrong?

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The police are sorting it out

They will decide who the terrorist is.

The Police are sorting it out

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Swastikas in churches? Death threats? Incitement to violence?

These are the patterns that lawyers and cops and journalists and local newspapers and secret sting operations and the ACLU deal with. ; )

I suppose you and your crew feel that you are above the law. Perhaps you are. Perhaps you think you ARE the law. Perhaps you are misguided enough to think what you are doing is legal - and simply too ignorant to realize that the american public and the constitution ALWAYS trumps secret psyops and unlawful secret police tactics. Where is J Edgar Hoover today? Where is Nixon and his secret enemies list? Nothing stays the same. You can blackmail and intimidate and ruin people's lives and kill people like me - but - all good things must come to an end eventually - and like any life of crime - your next threat against your fellow citizen could be your last. The winds of war and law enforcement and congressional oversight eventually always catches up with the sluggish feet of clay that is fascism. Do you even read the papers? The status quo may have shifted while you were sleeping and there are new sheriffs in town waiting for that crucial exposure and capital crime to take place.

or maybe you're just some lone jackass getting himself in deeper than he should.

Your Lawyer is an Idiot

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Well, fred, thank you for

Well, fred, thank you for your input. That was...um...lovely. So, anything constructive to add? Or can we just fast forward to the down arrows?

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Yes, I would like 911 Blogger to ammend the headline

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