UNDEBUNKABLE - Mineta and Clarke Agree: Cheney was in the PEOC before the Pentagon was hit !
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Richard Clarke reading 'Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror' by Richard Clarke

Part 1 [1.3 MB] – 3min 56sec
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth914/clarke1.mp3

Part 2 [1.4 MB] – 4min 04sec
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth914/clarke2.mp3

Part 3 [1.7 MB] – 5min 01sec
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth914/clarke3.mp3

Part 4 [1.5 MB] – 4min 30sec
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth914/clarke4.mp3

Norman Mineta, the acting Secretary of Transportation on 9/11, testified before the 9/11 Commission in a public hearing that he entered the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) at 9:20 a.m. where Vice President Dick Cheney was in charge. In his testimony, Mineta explained that “probably about five or six minutes” after he entered the PEOC, he observed a conversation between Dick Cheney and a young aide.

MR. MINETA: … during the time that the airplane coming into the Pentagon. There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?" And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant. And --
MR. HAMILTON: The flight you're referring to is the --
MR. MINETA: The flight that came into the Pentagon.

Mineta's Testimony [VIDEO] (00:03:54)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV-Srod3XUs

This testimony contradicts the findings in the 9/11 Commission Report because according to its revised timeline, Cheney did not enter the PEOC until 9:58. Therefore, the claim used to debunk this testimony is that Cheney was not even in the room when the conversation supposedly took place and therefore he could not have known about the airplane that hit the Pentagon when it was 50, 30 and 10 miles out.

Three Questions for Supporters of the Official Story:

Question 1: Did Mineta witness a conversation between a "young man" and Dick Cheney where the "young man" said "the plane is 50 miles out"? (Yes/No)

Supporter of the Official Story Answers: Yes

Question 2: Did Mineta witness this conversation before or after the Pentagon was hit? (Before/After)

Supporter of the Official Story Answers: After

Question 3: If this conversation occurred after the Pentagon was hit, why would Mineta think that the young man and Cheney were discussing the plane approaching the Pentagon?

Supporter of the Official Story Answers: Due to the confusion of the day, Mineta was mistaken about the time this conversation occurred and based on this; he incorrectly assumed it was the flight that struck the Pentagon. This conversation occurred sometime after 9:58 and therefore could not have been concerning the plane that struck the Pentagon.

But what if I could prove to you that Norman Mineta was not confused about the time he entered the PEOC? What if I could prove that Mineta did witness this conversation before the Pentagon was struck? What if I could prove that Dick Cheney was in the PEOC before 9:58? Would you conclude that Mineta’s testimony is accurate and that Cheney did know about the plane approaching the Pentagon? Would you conclude that the 9/11 commission report covered this up and that we need a new investigation?

Mineta testified that he “met briefly with Richard Clark[e]” and was then escorted down to the PEOC. It was after this that he stated that the plane crashed into the Pentagon. (the section of his testimony where he explains this is at the bottom).

Richard Clarke described in his book “Against All Enemies: Inside America’s War on Terror” his account of the events in the White House. Since he was the man in charge on 9/11, I could not imagine a more credible source. Richard Clarke confirms Mineta’s timeline of when he arrived in the PEOC and when Cheney was in the PEOC. He directly contradicts the 9/11 commission report in many areas. He clearly explains that Cheney would have definitely been in the PEOC before 9:28. He also states that his brief meeting with Mineta also occurred before 9:28 and that Mineta also joined the Vice President in the PEOC before 9:28. Richard Clarke could not possibly be confused about his timeline, as further evident by his notice of when the President made his address on CNN and when the Pentagon was struck.

I’ve quoted from his book and left “…” spaces to leave out sections that are irrelevant to this discussion. This is given in chronological order, and “…” spaces represent events occurring and the passing of time. Therefore notice that Clarke sent Mineta to the PEOC before 9:28, and Mineta’s recollection of the time of 9:20 proves to be accurate considering Clarke’s narrative. Clarke explains that Mineta called in from this car phone, went briefly to the Situation Room where Clarke sent Mineta to the PEOC to be with Vice President Dick Cheney. Also, Mineta was only 1.7 miles away when he left for the White House. Therefore when he called in from his car, he would have only been a few minutes away at most from the White House.

Richard Clarke’s Book:

Cheney began to gather up his papers. In his outer office the normal Secret Service presence was two agents. As I left, I counted eight, ready to move to the PEOC, the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, a bunker in the East Wing.

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“You’re going to need some decisions quickly,” Rice said off camera. “I’m going to the PEOC to be with the Vice President. Tell us what you need.”

“What I need is an open line to Cheney and you.”

...

Shortly thereafter, Mineta called in from his car and I asked him to come directly to the Situation Room. He had two sons who were pilots for United. He did not know where they were that day. I suggested he join the Vice President.
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It was now 9:28.

…

The television screen in the upper left was running CNN on mute. Noticing the President coming on, Lisa turned on the volume and the crisis conference halted to listen.

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Garvey read from a list: “All aircraft have been ordered to land at the nearest field. Here’s what we have as potential hijacks: Delta 1989 over West Virginia, United 93 over Pennsylvania…”

Stafford slipped me a not. “Radar shows aircraft headed this way.” Secret Service had a system that allowed them to see what FAA’s radar was seeing

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Ralph Seigler stuck his head into the room, “there has been an explosion in the Pentagon parking lot, maybe a car bomb!”

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Roger Cressey stepped back into the video conference and announced: “A plane just hit the Pentagon.”

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“I can still see Rumsfeld on the screen,” I replied, “so the whole building didn’t get hit”.

-End Clarke’s Book.

Now, if you would like to hear the whole story from the mouth of Richard Clarke himself, he narrated his book. After listening to him read his full account, I ask you if this man seems confused about his timeline? Could there be a more credible source? Could you want any more proof that Cheney was in the PEOC before 9:58? Well, there is more proof, but the fact that Mineta’s testimony agrees with Clarke’s account is indisputable proof that Mineta and Cheney were in the PEOC before the Pentagon was struck.

Part 1 [1.3 MB] – 3min 56sec
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth914/clarke1.mp3

Part 2 [1.4 MB] – 4min 04sec
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth914/clarke2.mp3

Part 3 [1.7 MB] – 5min 01sec
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth914/clarke3.mp3

Part 4 [1.5 MB] – 4min 30sec
http://www.members.shaw.ca/truth914/clarke4.mp3

Mineta’s Testimony:
When I got to the White House, it was being evacuated. I met briefly with Richard Clark, a National Security Council staff member, who had no new information. Then the Secret Service escorted me down to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, otherwise known as the PEOC. I established contact on two lines, one with my chief of staff at the Department of Transportation, and the second with Monty Belger, the acting deputy administrator of the FAA, and Jane Garvey, both of whom were in the FAA operations center.
And as the minutes passed, the developing picture from air traffic control towers and radar screens became increasingly more alarming. Some aircraft could not be contacted. While on a normal day that may be just a communications snafu, we were faced with trying to quickly sort out minor problems from significant threats. We did not know how many more attacks might be in progress.
The FAA began to restrict air travel in the Northeast United States by a combination of actions which included sterilizing air space in certain regions and at various airports, and ultimately a nationwide ground stop of all aircraft for all locations, regardless of destination.
Within a few minutes, American Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hear..._2003-05-23.htm