yeh i can really see how releasing this in the days after 9/11 would have compramised national security (sarcasm).

Wow big suprise...no plane! I'm glad they put to rest all these "outrageous conspiracy theories" with this video.
Great job guys!

By now the government is acting guilty by not providing any of the hundreds of cameras' recording in and around the pentagon. This is ridiculious. There is no security risk of showing us all the available videos, not just one but all of them. This is simply another piece of evidence of their guilt that we can throw on top of the pile. It's sad that we live in a country which has been hijacked by pinstriped thugs.

The government does not have to act guilty. It is guilty! Not all of government is guilty but the rogue elements were complicit in carrying out 9/11's false flag operation in my opinion.

Of course it wasn't the entire government, it was most likely small factions of US and Foriegn Intelligence agencies coupled with rogue elements from the pentagon which carried out the treasonous and murderous acts.

If it wasn't the entire government but merely 'rogue elements', how come they haven't been rumbled yet? By covering up for them the government are showing their complicity in the 'attacks'.

That is my theory as well.

Apparently there are those in the debunker camp who claim ALL the tapes EXCEPT for the DoubleTree tape have been released to the public. Any idea where this idea came from? When I ask for a link, they just rant about something else I said.

"It's sad that we live in a country which has been hijacked by pinstriped thugs."

Cynthia McKinney was quite frank--" we have a crimial syndicate in the White House."(paraphrase from Truth and Lies of 911)

"Bugger this; I want a better world."

Ya, holding them back is just another crime on top of all the other crimes. If there are some innocent people working for some of these agencies it would be in there own interest to see these videos released. Otherwise they are becoming accomplises after the fact.

That gave me a laugh. Just when I get stressed enough knowing criminals are at large for 9/11, a snippet like that humors me enough to bridge the gap between the real and the ideal.

thanks!

national security issue

This is so typical though, the big release doesn't show WHAT hit the Pentagon, because they've artfully installed a passing truck or whathaveyou, BUT MY REAL point is that there are ROOF CAMS apparently that have to show the real weapon of mass deception

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/02/saturday/index.html

Come on, is there anyone here that actually believes the official 9/11 government fairy tale? Of course the fbi has been trying to cover up 9/11. That is what all evidence has suggested for many years. Can anyone honestly say the at the WTC collapses were not a demolitions? How many here noticed immediately on 9/11 that buildings were demolished? Probably everyone here.

The lamestream media and Faux News will bury this story. 9/11 was a false flag operation but the masses could seem to care less. How about the mass media steps up and turns the tide? There is plenty of money in holding those that really carried out 9/11 accountable in a court of law.

I commend the makers of loosechange for withstanding fbi harassment to get the truth out. You guys are real patriots.

On 9/11 I walked by a tv and saw a crowd huddled around it. I walked in the tv room as the second tower was collapsing. I turned to a co-worker and asked why the company was giving time off for people to see the WTC towers being demolished. My co-worker stood in total silence. I then walked over to my cubicle thinking that the WTC had been scheduled for demolition. I had a ton of work to do and so did the department I was working in but everyone cleared out of the room as I went back to my desk. I went back to the TV and then heard newscasters say the buildings fell due to fire and being hit by planes. I still thought it was not real and some kind of really sick joke until I saw the VP watching tv with his jaw almost hitting the ground. I said right away that those buildings were demolished. My contract was never renewed after it was completed two months later.

All evidence including thermate residual and basic physics continue to point to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job and the buildings demolished. Go back and watch Faux News along with your other friends who have the maturity levels of first graders. It was obvious the WTC building were demolished. Nice try at using at least 2 of the The 25 Methods Of Truth Suppression. They don't work on me nor do they work on anyone in the Truth Movement so in essence you are posting to your stooge friends that infect the USA with your criminal behavior.

Why do you waste your time on something you don't believe in? Find another bridge to crawl under.

You ain't none too brite, is ya?

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Ad hominem per factum, beyotch!
You are undeservedly egotistical.... often laughably so.
Pseudo-intellectuality does not behoove you.

still no plane...if they wanted to prove it, why not show the other 70+ stationary security cameras that caught the incident on tape. I'm sick of this bullshit. There was no plane!

These people seem to think there was a plane...

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html

Just sayin.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3533.htm

Burlingame becomes victim in a situation similar to the drill he was a part of.

But no one had any idea "they'd" do this type of thing.

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"IT WAS LIKE A CRUISE MISSILE WITH WINGS". Who would ever describe a commercial passenger jet as like a cruise missile with wings??

Someone who saw a commercial jet flying low at hundreds of miles of hour crashing into something.

God, do you people ever ask WHY they would hit the Pentagon with a missile when they've got a perfectly good hijacked plane to work with? I'm tired of seeing well-meaning 9/11 researchers falling for this Pentagon no-plane booby trap.

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html

You know how hard it would be to steer that plane into that very area of the Pentagon?
They would risk hitting the wrong side where actual military government people populate mostly instead of just the renovation workers and a few military personnel.
So then they Rumsfield can say: "why would I risk being killed to be in on this scheme and attack my own building?"

Just some random thoughts...

People who think no plane hit the Pentagon are as crazy as those that think no planes hit the WTC.

1. Nobody knows what a 757 hitting a reinforced masonry building at 500 mph looks like, nor what the resulting debris pattern would be. In the case of the Trade Center, a hypothetical lawn in front of the impacted building side would be equally devoid of debris. Both planes in New York were also largely reduced to completely unrecognizable small pieces.

2. It's true that the outer wing tips seem to have inflicted no damage to the building, but this was the case in the WTC as well: Both planes lost the outer chunk of their wings on impact; more so in Flight 175 because it struck thicker beams lower in the building. The solid stone walls of the Pentagon would have been even more resistant to the impact and thus the hole would be smaller than in either tower. What is clear is that the damage is not in any way consistent with a cruise missile strike.

3. Plane parts inside the building show a multi- ton landing gear assembly (clearly from a 757), a wheel rim of the specific model that the plane operating as Flight 77 had been outfitted with, and large engine pieces. The 'mystery part' in Loose Change has been conclusively identified as a 757 engine component, and it is far too big to be a fan rotor from a small jet like the A-3. I think the most compelling debris photos, however, are those that show aluminum parts plastered around support columns inside the Pentagon, clearly there as a result of a high- velocity impact. I can't think of a plausible way this could be faked, other than building a replica of the Pentagon interior somewhere else.

4. Grainy and low- frame rate security cameras would do a very poor job of recording the high speed impact, so the lack of a distinctive plane in any of the available footage is not surprising. If there are cameras that clearly recorded the plane, that I have no doubt they are simply withholding them as a future means to discredit the movement. It is unfortunate that no professional- grade news cameras filmed the impact, but this is not at all surprising at the same time. It should not be construed as evidence that there wasn't a plane.

5. Arguing that there was no plane at the Pentagon completely diffuses the evidence provided by Norman Minenta's testimony. Saying "Dick Cheney let Flight 77 hit the Pentagon" is a lot more convincing than "No plane hit the Pentagon" or any crazy shit about a missile. You can prove the former, the latter is just speculation, and it's really one or the other. Anyone with any sense can see which side has the stronger case here... (Hint: "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 40 miles out...")

6. The passenger list of Flight 77 was highly suspicious, with a huge number of present or former Navy employees. Any discussion of this is impossible when suggesting there was no plane in the first place.

7. OH yeah and there were dozens of witnesses, at least as many as the first NYC impact (no high buildings in the way, and a busy freeway right next to the crash site). All of them saw a plane. Most of them saw a commercial jet liner. Only a few of them worked for the Government.

8. Hani Hanjour clearly wasn't flying the plane. At least we can all agree on that...

As far as 'no planers' go, I think it's all or nothing: Either there were 3 plane crashes into buildings that day, or there were zero. The idea that they had large numbers of fake witnesses on- scene, a means to control bystanders that also witnessed the crash, teams of CGI artists to doctor the footage before releasing it, plus a huge operation to plant hundreds of pieces of debris immediately following each crash is pretty far fetched, and supported by very little evidence. It also increases the necessary number of conspirators substantially, something Truthers should avoid doing at all costs... But in any case, it would be as difficult for them to pull off at the Pentagon as it would have been in New York. More importantly, there reasons for faking a plane in either city are equally non- existent.

So, hands up - who here is really with Nico Haupt and the loony cartoon planers?

I don't know what hit the Pentagon. I don't really care either, because the truth is nothing should have hit that building.

Still there is a big difference between not believing a plane hit the Pentagon and not believing a plane hit the second tower.

That's a very good point. It shouldn't be about what hit the pentagon, it should be about the fact that they knew something was coming for 40 minutes [Mineta testimony], and there was an air base less than 10 miles away, and nothing was done to prevent the attack. This is all documented.

Even if Mineta's testimony did not exist, the very fact that a plane had 40 minutes to approach the pentagon is damning evidence. The pentagon has better radar than the FAA. The pentagon has an airbase less than 10 miles away. Nothing was done to stop the plane. End of story.

We should focus on this evidence, it's much more conclusive than what did or didn't hit the pentagon.

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

"As far as 'no planers' go, I think it's all or nothing: Either there were 3 plane crashes into buildings that day, or there were zero."

I don't know how you figure this. You don't have to believe cartoon planes hit WTC 1& 2 to know, just from looking at the wreckage at the Pentagon, that SOMETHING is wrong this this picture.

I grew up in the 70's and before TERROR was what sold papers it was airplane crashes. (okay everyone, selective memory edit to directly reference topic. There was also something about that 'hussy' Cher and those women libers) It seems like there was a crash on the front page EVERY month; I know that's not true, it's just how it felt. That's the impression it made. And the pictures of these crashes have rubbish strew ALL OVER. Chared bodies, insulation, seats and cushions. And, most importantly, the hull of the plane, torn, broken or crumpled, but still obviously recognizable as peices of a jet liner. These things don't just disappear no matter what they hit.

So, no, I don't believe a JUMBO JET hit the Pentagon. From the lack of wake turbulence and temporary deafness--this is minutes to an hour, not moments-in the testimony I've read from people within dozen's of yards of the alledged jet's passage I believe a smaller jet craft was involved.

I DO NOT think witnesses are lying or are necessariliy plants. But perceptions can change by suggestion, especially if an event happened so quickly you're not sure how it happened:

You're sitting in traffic near the Pentagon and some loud aircraft screams over you--but doesn't knock your car off the road(this is the absence of a massive aircraft's wake turbulence ). Your ears ring for a moment, but you are not actually deafened. (unprotected exposure from jumbo jet noise can cause temporary to permanent hearing damage) You assume it was a plane of some sort; when someone asks if you saw Flight 77 hit the Pentagon you say, "Oh, yeah--it flew right over me while I was in traffic!"

This person is not lying. But that does not mean the aircraft that flew over head is a jumbo jet passenger liner.

So lets have a little respect for the obvious inconsitancies and how we WILL, as individuals, come from different angles without being labeled as in cahoots with someone you don't like.

For the record, I know too little about the 'Nico Haupt" saga to have an opinion one way or the other. And I do believe WTC 1& 2 were hit by aircraft of some sort, so don't start, sunshine.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.