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Video: Big day for street action at Ground Zero - 11/18/06
This video has some priceless moments. There were a coincidentally large number of activist at Ground Zero that day, and we took full advantage of our unified presence. Our resident debunker was also present, doing his best to represent the 'official conspiracy theory'. We even got the message on live TV, and captured the angry response of the news correspondent. The day was challenging and inspiring.
I can't sart the video either
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Same problem here
I upgraded Quicktime, and then it worked fine.
You have to right click the
You have to right click the screen while at the same time holding down either your control key or apple key. You must do it because this video is great. Power to the Truther and the true patriots working their asses off at ground zero.
Does...
Roberts go to Ground Zero every Saturday?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Pretty much every saturday
I've seen him there every saturday or sunday that I've been there. I've talked with him a couple of times and he doesn't remember me each time. It's a little bit odd. If he were smarter I might think he was CIA or an info control agent, but I think he's simply some guy with serious issues; he's a little bit scary and not worthe getting into it with him. But everyone should decide for themselves. (I may be wrong about his CIA status, I guess they all don't have to be geniuses). Also, I asked him once if he thinks it could at all be possible that a rogue faction from one or more of our Intelligence Agencies or any other group other than the hijackers could ever carry out an attack on the country. He said it was impossible. As if bad bad people only exist amongst the masses and could never make way into our government. I then asked him if he beleives it is possible to find someone capable of murdering their mother for money, or murdering anyone for money. He said, of course, yes. His grave contradiction speaks volumes about him.
Just have to say this
He has an uncanny resemblance to a certain actor.. both in looks and mannerisms.

"You got nuthin'.. you got nuthin'!" :)
I have to say I was REALLY
I have to say I was REALLY unimpressed with his demeanor--as in "you need to back off, sonny, and stop following me around when I'm walking away from you"--unimpressed.
Tell you, all my 'bully alert' spider senses got triggered watching him. He didn't seem to try to follow or crowd people who were closer to his height, but maybe he just changed tactics later.
I could SO believe he was a dis-info agent. Most people I know who don't want to believe MIHOP can easily admit SOME culpability by the powers that be. And intelligence officers who've drunk the Kool aid are notoriously arrogant.
Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.
What's with the "CAL" cap he's wearing?
Please ask him about it the next time you see him.
Try to draw him out on a non-9/11 subject and see where that goes, just as an experiment.
Also try pulling out your ID and asking him to show his, I'd love to know if he does and what it says.
Thanks.
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
Be well.
I'm just reading John Marks'
I'm just reading John Marks' "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate - the CIA and Mind Control, the secret history of the Behavioural Sciences".
is this guy an example of the MKULTRA programme?
MKULTRA
I think it's far from an established fact that such programs are still operating today, but they might be, and if they are, it can only be supposed that their efficacy has advanced. I think some form of manipulation of already unstable people may be the best explanation for some of the shill stuff that goes on here and elsewhere. (if nothing else, it's probably more cost effective.)
guts at ground zero expose CT idiots
Mmm.. have fun jumping off
Mmm.. have fun jumping off that Iraq cliff!
of course, you probably didn't serve now did you?
Is that agent provocateur named "Roberts"? He is a
double-talking liar, whoever he is!
It would be good to hand out DVDs of "Loose Change" there at Ground Zero.
Double talking...
While I found the video quite entertaining, I really wonder how many folks you convinced to look further into this matter. NYC is a passionate place, making it difficult to use logic to temper emotion, but I doubt argument of the type in the video will move many minds. That said- I commend you on the effort and hope you keep it up- just lower the volume, take a deep breath and shake off the assholes with smiles. I probably would have acted exactly as you did, with that jerk in my face...who is he and who pays him?
Please note
This video was shot and edited with a focus on the more controversial moments of a unique day. It was not intended to broadly represent the 9/11 truth movement, or our street action. We feel that public discussion about 9/11 can be sensitive, and that pushing a camera in someone's face as they are asked to deal with heavy issues is not a winning combination. For this reason the camera ended up where the communication was more social and less personal.
Much of the drama you see in the video was instigated by Mark Roberts (discussed in my post below) doing his job. You don't see the hundreds of positive conversations that went on that day. Don't worry, most of us are getting better at resisting the temptation to be baited into a pointless argument.
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keep up the good work Jules
personally I've noticed far fewer numbers of people trying to start arguments, and far more looking to just see what we have to say. It IS hard not to take the bait though, but very important that we keep it positive. We're breaking through most people's media-induced perceptions that we're "conspiracy theorists" precisely because of the work we do in the streets that lets people judge for themselves. This goon no doubt is being paid to get in your way. Figure out ways to make him look even worse while keeping you all on the high ground and he will be helping you more than hindering. When people get to see representatives of both sides and what they are really like, that can have a tremendous impact on their decision of which side to take seriously. Well done! Keep it up.
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Jules, I'd just like to say
Jules, I'd just like to say that many people would be tempted to just punch this guy cold!! Your reserve is admirable.
Stay strong and keep up the great work.
peace
Also, who is that tv news reporter who became so irate?
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That reporter is a typical
That reporter is a typical media stooge. The type that believe they were selected to shovel bushit out to the masses because they are special, above ordinary, as if reading lines off a telepromtor warrants a noble cause. In other words, this guy was a real duschebag.
We need to find out who the
We need to find out who the reporter was!! We can get that asshole in serious trouble with his employers by writing to the station he works at and complaining about his extremely unprofessional behavior. Don't get mad! Get even!!! Some one in the New York area please find out this information and pass it on!!!
the reporter is Pat Dawson-- how ironic
If you will recall a certain clip of 9-11 news footage of one reporter saying the NYFD chief of safety had recieved word of secondary devices how there were bombs in the bulldings. I think its that very same guy. It sounds like his same voice. NBC's Pat Dawson.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3687950/
How ironic
That is a great find, good
That is a great find, good work. Pat Dawson is a dope, a second rate hack, and vulgar on top of it. Both he and his producer were insulting to the young man dealing with the murder of his father while he attempts to get to the bottom of the 911 planned attacks. Even for a cheap newscaster it is totally revolting behavior and NBC is going to hear about it. I bet the young fella could sue NBC for cruel and tormenting acts in the face of his greif..
Nice Vid...
Loved the TV on the trolley :)
and the moving banners behind the news guy... v funny lol
Do you need a genorator or
Do you need a genorator or does it work off a battery.
I was very pleased to find a huge 9/11 truth section on the
TV-News-LIES site: http://tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_facts.html
Format issues and Mark Roberts
Hey guys,
The movie is in Quicktime format, and as someone above discovered, because it was created by the latest version of Quicktime, the latest version must be used to view it.
And yes, our resident debunker is named Mark Roberts. He's a regular over at the James Randi Educational Foundation forum, an organization of "skeptics". He carries around a folder with a color encoded breakdown of the errors and misstatements of the NY911Truth flyer and walks around saying that everything the movement has to offer is critically off base.
From what I hear, he is at Ground Zero as often as he can be. He told me he is a Ground Zero tour guide, and loses money in his commitment to debunking our concerns on Saturday afternoons. He claims to care about the truth, says that he's liberal, and skeptical of government authority, and yet finds the entire matter of 9/11 to be unworthy of further investigation.
From a strictly functional point of view, he serves primarily to interrupt our conversations with the public, and most often in doing so, to draw more attention and sympathy our direction. People generally find his abrasive approach to be unappealing. Next to him, us 'conspiracy theorists' generally seem calm and reasonable. But unfortunately, he does offer a convenient out for those sitting on the fence. I suspect that this is the best he can hope to achieve.
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there is a WMV available now
there is a WMV available now too.. its linked in your blog entry now.
btw Jules, the email address you registered with is rejecting emails with 'mailbox full' errors, please update your email address incase i need to contact you in the future.
thanks for the submission!
Thanks dz
I think I got my email issue cleared up. Thanks for the format conversion and post.
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The video...
Doesn't work for me?
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."