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REMINDER: C-SPAN 2 - "9/11 & American Empire" 10pm EST

Submitted by Reprehensor on Sat, 11/25/2006 - 9:46pm.

C-Span

A reminder that C-SPAN 2 will be broadcasting "9/11 and American Empire" at 10pm EST (9pm Central).

You can buy a copy of the video from C-SPAN here;
http://www.c-spanstore.org/shop/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&p...

You can buy a differently filmed version from 911tv.org;
http://communitycurrency.org/911TV/kpfadetails.html

And it would be downright decent of you to make a contribution to KPFA.org, who made the event possible, and when you do, let them know that you are contributing specifically because of this event and Bonnie Faulkner's "Guns and Butter" radio program;
http://kpfa.org/pledge/

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Watch it online live...

C-SPAN 2
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Submitted by Jon Gold on Sat, 11/25/2006 - 9:51pm.

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and ...

be sure to thank C-SPAN

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 11/25/2006 - 11:26pm.

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Masquerade Party

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Submitted by Concrete man (not verified) on Sat, 11/25/2006 - 11:40pm.

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Arrest "9/11 Truth Seekers"?

Arrest "9/11 Truth Seekers" for trying to COVER UP the crime???!!! And we also have evidence that Larry Silverstein personally planted explosives. This video is full of shit.

Submitted by spacemonkey (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 1:58am.

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I mean really

Just how many people here are stupid enough to believe such manure?
Why do you disinfo agents (Concrete Man) keep posting such crap here, just making fools of yourselves.

Submitted by Nunyabiz on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 10:39am.

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I think Hufschmid is a flawed messenger...

But lots of what he talks about is quite legit. That said, I am open to the possibility that his presentations are purposely on the offensive side, in order to frame the issues he talks about in a certain light. As with all information, watch it and judge it with a critical eye. I would encourage people to watch Masquerade Party just as I would encourage them to at least once take a look at no-planes and space beams stuff. Criticizing or avoiding something and not really knowing why is a recipe for ignorance.

If people like Hufschmid don't talk about the people who are jailed not for holocaust DENIAL but for questioning aspects of it, we may one day be surprised to find 9/11 Denial also listed as a crime. Why not? If it can happen in Europe over the holocaust, why not in America over 9/11? I have little doubt that if we're not vigilant, and if we automatically poo-poo everything people like Hufschmid talk about--whether or not they are legit or disinfo, we are digging our own graves.

Free your minds--never fear information--promote it, defend it, challenge it, buit NEVER EVER fear it.

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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

Submitted by Real Truther on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 12:12pm.

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I couldn't agree more.

I couldn't agree more Real Truther. You have heard the one about "contempt prior to investigation". We must always keep an open mind. Last week a truther friend turned me on to David Icke. I downloaded a couple of his videos and gave them a watch. He is the guy that is into shape-shifters and a reptilian race of beings who control things here on Earth. Although I don't buy into the shape-shifting thing, he did have some good things to say. He gave one of the best presentations on 9/11 truth I have ever heard. The day we think we have all the answers is the day we loose this fight...................................."Every Dog Has His Day."

Submitted by maddog on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 1:57pm.

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Also can watch here

http://www.mininova.org/tor/486286
there is another one there too...has a 9/11 requiem too, and a comment by David Ray Griffin, prior to the main presentation.
cr

Submitted by skizex (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 4:03pm.

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also up on google

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3195658770053494633

w/ extras at the beginning

Submitted by illuminating9_11 (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 5:44pm.

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I saw it yesterday it was great

I saw it yesterday it was great.

Submitted by NJcpaTOM on Sat, 11/25/2006 - 11:34pm.

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I as well, saw it yesterday..

..I also now have it on my dvr. Yes it was great! Made me, want to stand and give them an ovation.

MikeJr

Submitted by MikeJr on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 11:21am.

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FAA whistleblower is at it

FAA whistleblower is at it again

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-11-23-whistle-blower-faa_x....

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is the same guy who in national geographics' inside 9/11 said "the system was designed to fail..."

Submitted by geggy7 (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 1:01am.

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CSPAN2 Censored??

Soooooooo I turned on CSPAN2 this evening around 10:15 EST... and to my dismay they were showing not 9/11 & American Empire.. but some OTHER CHANNEL's broadcasting... WTF?!!? This is in the Northeast.. did anyone else encounter this? I turned to the preview channel and it clearly stated that I should have been watching Griffin and Co... I turned back to CSPAN2 around 11:15 and caught part of the Q&A... but I had recommended the program to a number of co-workers, family members and other non-initiates.. Hopefully CSPAN will show it again.

Submitted by cecius (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 2:05am.

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Confirmation

This is exactly what happened to me - at 10 pm, the Time-Warner cable in New York was playing the MSN network (sports) on the channel designated for C-SPAN2.

Where are you located, cecius?

MSN was also on MSN, so it wasn't a simple switch. By 11 the channel had switched back to C-SPAN2, and it was possible to view the rest of the Book TV show on 9/11, so maybe it was not the result of an intentional black out.

But I can also believe that the first 3 showings stirred up some shit in the corporate media front offices...

Submitted by Nicholas on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 4:21am.

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C-SPAN

It played on the east coast at 10:00 p.m., but the 3:30 slot was cancelled for some reason.

Submitted by Anon (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 8:39am.

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I caught part of it

I'm here in Northwest Illinois and they had the High School football championship games broadcasted on C-Span at that time. Even though those games were broadcast on a different channel also. So I didn't get to see much of it either. What a crock, I called up the cable company and ripped their ass and asked why the hell they broadcast the games on 2 channels when the one channel (not the C-Span) always broadcasts these games and that it is carried in all those areas the cable company has access to.
All I got was a sorry, and that I could make My complaint in a feedback survey. I said that doesn't do much good now unless it is rebroadcast this week.

Submitted by Mike Anti-Neo-Con on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 2:19pm.

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We had problems too

We're on the West Coast and so it started at 8pm and were prepared to watch the whole two hours show, BUT at exactly 9pm, all of a sudden some low-grade, low quality informercial about some local plumbing company came on and stayed on.

We were furious and we each called up the cable company with complaints, and they said they were receiving quite a few.

My friend said he had never before encountered seeing an infomercial on C-SPAN before and he always watches it for shows like Book TV , etc.

I definitely think there is a distinct chance that some people at the station must have deliberately tried to sabotage the viewing of the 911 Truth panel show.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 8:41pm.

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Framing the debate

I would like to say that I watched the CSPAN coverage and thought it provided a thorough overview of the unanwered questions, but I couldn't help to wonder what it must look like to the virgin eye.

I have posted before just a day ago and wish to re-address a point I made elsewhere -

We must reframe the debate and the language we use with respect to the 9/11 Truth movement.

We need to start using the term "scientific theory" as opposed to the "conspiracy theory." Some of us may not see the difference between the two, but the mass media has labeled us as conspiracy nuts and so on. The word has an awful connotation. It's not much different than the way "liberal" has been demonized. If you think about it, so many "liberals" no longer self-apply that term. They use "progressive" instead.

By using the word "scientific" what you must do is to back up all that you say with facts. I have witnessed 9/11 Truth seekers confuse fact and opinion all too often. Many "virgin" ears out there will easily detect the muddled debate and dismiss you as a result.

Conjecture needs to be distinguished for our sake, and should be avoided. Generalizations must be avoided. To say, "all people in the current administration are crooks," leaves little to be desired for additional info. Rather, be specific about what particular individuals are guilty of by referencing explicit documentation.

By presenting the facts and evidence we have collected to accompany the unaswered questions, you can show the novice 9/11 truth seeker how deductive reasoning will clearly show there is more to what we have been told.

Also, don't tolerate anyone who questions your patriotism or accuses you if hating America, but don't let anger get the best of you. No one likes to be accused of this. I, for one, feel 9/11 Truth is not anti-American at all. In fact, it is about defending America from ignorance, deceit, and enemies within our country.

We need to stress that 9/11 Truth upholds all values and beliefs found and protected within the Constitution.

I sometimes use this rebuttal if I get too much hostility or opposition - "to deny us these truths makes the accuser no different than those who deny the Holocaust." It may strike a nerve with some. It may label ourselves as the victims here, so use it with caution.

I like Einstein's quote which is, "Condemnation without investigation is the greatest form of ignorance." Who would disagree with Einstein?

Some of the people I have spoken with and convinced even to the slightest degree that there is more to 9/11 will often use the default response, "Well, say this is true....What difference is it going to make to make if it becomes public? Who else is really going to care about it or believe it? Will it change anything ever really change?" This is the issue of efficacy - the idea that one person counts. Ask if they vote. If they say yes, commend them for that. This is proof that they made a difference, however small. Ask if they ever donated to charity, even a little bit, and take it from there. Every bit and every voice makes a difference.

Keep in mind that people are not going to graduate from knowledge and acceptance of 9/11 Truth to action and activism so easily. They need an incentive. They need reputable or "safe" public figures to tag along with or agree with. MLK had the same obstacles. Eventually, people started to speak on his behalf. But before he was enamored by the American public, look at the Civil Rights movement prior to his assassination and you can see that there were consequences to those who stood by the activists. People lost their jobs, were arrested, were hosed down, interrogated, and even killed before the cause reached critical mass.

Sorry to ramble, but I feel that we need to remind ourselves that we have come a long way in a matter of 5 years to bring light to these truths. Patience will get us there, not hostility. Hope is on our side. But we need to put hope into action and actualize the goal. The herd will eventually shift once the wind blows stronger.

Think:

Science and facts --------not "conspiracy"

Patriotism and love of country ------- not "down with the government."

truth, justice for all --------not left vs. right

Submitted by Rob in NY (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 3:12am.

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BigMedia subjugation

TV had no sooner been invented when we discovered that there was a true 'conspiracy' to insure that the new medium would not compete with the Movie Biz. Hollywood appeared to be atonomous from Wall St., and especially Vegas. No decent new shows appeared on Friday, or Saturday evenings because this was perceived as the critical purvey of movies.

All was fine, as long as there were Three Networks, Two political parties, and a plethoria of independent papers to represent every imaginable view.

Today, there is the Internet, the zombie-class, and the ruling-class.

Howard Zinn on "Occupied America"
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php?op=program-info&program_id=20619&nav=...

Where was this discussion at election time? And, why does C-span play "9/11 Conspiracy" -coverage, just about the time HBO hits peak-viewership?

Submitted by Tom-Scott Gordon on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 8:36am.

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Fetzer uses Star Wars Beam on Steven Jones

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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 9:30am.

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Don't do it, Steve!

"I would hope and expect that Steve will join me in Washington, D.C., on 10 January 2007 to speak at The National Press Club. The controversy surrounding our recent disputes will almost certainly increase media attention for this event."

Sounds great, huh?

Submitted by YT on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 9:40am.

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Did not know this

Alex has proven heroic, no wonder you've been so quiet this past year + you sly fox! Rock on ST911.

Forget the space-beam weapons. We can easily replicate the same effects from the ground. Since Silverstein now owns the Sears Tower, I say we try them out on another, similar sized property right away, deal?

-Just kidding, Atty.

Submitted by Tom-Scott Gordon on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 9:53am.

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JAMES FETZER IS GOVERNMENT SHILL

Spread the word.

Submitted by Visitor on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 4:06pm.

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..SAME GOES FOR M. REYNOLDS, S. JONES, AND J. WOOD

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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 4:09pm.

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Bracketing Steven Jones in with Reynolds and Wood

Bracketing Steven Jones in with Reynolds and Wood in order to discredit him (as you do) does indeed seem to be the plan.

Submitted by YT on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 4:19pm.

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Transparent... isn't

Transparent... isn't it...

Just goes to show HOW RIGHT Prof. Jones is on the issue of thermate in the buildings.

If building 7 is the smoking gun, then the molten metal pouring out of the south tower is the gun being fired!

Submitted by imgstacke on Sun, 11/26/2006 - 10:07pm.

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or the tower's blood

molten steel as the red hot blood of the towers seems like a powerful meme. certainly not the kind of blood you want to have on your hands, but that also says a lot.

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WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

Submitted by Real Truther on Mon, 11/27/2006 - 11:25am.

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disinfo

"Ninety-five percent of the work of intelligence agencies around the world is disinformation and deception," Andreas von Bulow http://www.newsgateway.ca/terrorism.htm

We need to guard against disinformation. I think Fetzer is taking the wrong approach. All ideas are not equal. Yes, we must consider all of the possibilities, but we can't present them as equal unless they have equal evidence.

Submitted by Arabesque on Mon, 11/27/2006 - 8:58pm.

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shill or no...

He does seem to be embracing theories that are highly speculative and as such harm the credibility of the movement. I definitely think that there is a serious question now as to whether Jim Fetzer being a vocal, visible voice for the truth movement is in the net analysis a positive or negative at this point.

I encourage everyone to go to www.st911.org and read the series of letters in the "Founder's Corner" between Dr. Jones and Fetzer. I find myself siding with Dr. Jones and his approach, and no I don't think that a laser beam from space was used on 9/11 and honestly even if there was strong evidence for it it sounds so outlandish to most people that talk of it will probably do more harm than good.

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REMINDER: C-SPAN 2 - "9/11 & American Empire" 10pm EST