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Dr. Steven Jones 'Lifting the Fog' Berkeley Lecture Now on Google Video

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This is the recording of a live webcast of Steven Jones' presentation from the Lifting the Fog conference held on the campus of UC Berkeley thanks to 911Truth.org

Fintan Dunne @ BreakForNews.com

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and they also think every

and they also think every site on the web is run by the CIA (except for theirs of course) -> http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm

glad to see Steve get a huge standing ovation at the end, that should bring at least a few dozen new people into 9/11 research.

Why cut out the questions at the end?

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i didn't record it, edit it,

i didn't record it, edit it, or post it to the web, so i didn't 'cut out the questions part' (thanks for the insinuation though). it was actually put together by 911tv.org it looks like.

do you have the Q&A? feel free to post a link to it.

I videotaped the Q & A

If you know somewhere I can host it, I can post it. 

register with google and

register with google and upload it to video.google.com.. its pretty easy.. youtube limits to 10 minutes now, but you could go there too.. they both accept most formats.

we need our own youtube

I don't like relying on those fuckers.

I'll upload it and then post it here. 

Q & A


http://www.breakfornews.com/T

http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm

Right on.

The list of "fake truth sites" are really a list of fantastic websites.

infowars, prisonplanet, rense, globalresearch,.ca, larouchepub.com (la rouche is always exposing the evil Fed bankers, I love it), apfn.org (has the book on line "Secrets of the Federal Reserve". ( this is how I came to know about the private federal reserve bankers who are the parasitical organization that has taken all the riches from the rightful owners, the 300 Million Americans.),

So, thanks break for news I will have to check out the other 60 urls on your list. I had did not know about them.
And I will have to beware of any websites that are not on your list.

After having the veil completely removed about "911, the Federal Reserve, Rockefeller, Rothschild, the Pharmaceutical industry, the false war on terror, depleted uranium atomic war we are having in Iraq right now, the desire of the federal reserve bankers to have a one world govt with them at the top and us at the bottom etc.." in the past year I have to thank the websites mentioned above for catalyzing my jump from sheeple to eyes wide open truth info machine.

And the comments on the breakfornews website about us being handled by controllers or that we are intelligence operatives or us having been professional manipulated is the most laughable manipulation I have ever seen with my own two eyes.

Anyone who doubts that breakfornews is a mega psyop bunch of cow manure intelligence operatives please jump into the websites I mentioned above that they have listed as fake websites, the water is fantastically clear.

I would also like to mention rbn radio. Especially Webster Tarpley (world crisis radio) and Dan Abramson (false flag news). You can listen to their archives at

http://rbnlive.com/archiveindex.html

Another link I liked a lot.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

Another unbelievable one:
http://blogs.albawaba.com/Alexanderjames/2067/2006/05/18/44692-rothschil...

And you thought Buffet was rich.

Gotta love the old

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not gonna comment on the

not gonna comment on the Jones thing yet, but for reference you sort of can build a nuclear weapon out of houshold materials.
http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
I hope Al Qaeda isn't reading this lol.

Dunne is disinfo on 9/11...through and through.

And Dr. Jones is a wonderful human being who I happen to know personally.

And so is Dr. Fetzer.

Fintan Dunne needs to take his "fog" elsewhere, far from the truth about 9/11.

yes, he is

Is Dunne a planted agent or just an ego freak?

If one were really paranoid, one would suspect that Agent Dunne is attacking Dr. Jones in order to muddy the waters concerning the legitimate questions about Jones...

I'm going to go with Dunne as egofreak for now, though

Does the video tell how much

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Kevin Barrett on CNN

I just saw a short interview with Kevin Barrett on CNN Europe. It was quite short but they didn't demean him. Did anyone else catch that?

yeah, it was on anderson

yeah, it was on anderson cooper.. i heard he would be on about a week ago when CNN visited his office, but unfortunately i didnt find out it was tonight until too late..

hopefully someone will have a copy.

ezra is a skank.

ezra is a skank.

Woot...Go Prof Jones.

Woot...Go Prof Jones.

help me find...

I saw the Jones/Barrett/Ryan presentation recently in Colorado.

One of Ryan's key points was that as of this summer, *NIST abandoned their pancake theory* in favor of a smorgasbord theory of alleged reasons for the WTC collapses.

I hadn't heard this before, or seen it publicized etc. Can someone point me to an article from a good (idealy MSM) source which tells of this rather dramatic NIST theory change?

It would be really useful for those messageboard debates where the 911 OCT believer/shills are still busily promoting whatever NIST says... :)

Way OT, but while I'm asking,

WRT Popular Mechanics' Ben Chertoff, alleged by journalist Christopher Bollyn to be cousin of DHS head Michael Chertoff, I saw a reference today to wikipedia entry on Ben where he personally repeatedly denied being related:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Chertoff#Attacks_by_9.2F11_conspir...

I hadn't seen this either. What do we make of this denial? Should we abandon that claim, when debunking PM's credibility wrt 911?

In the 9/06 PM article by Jim Meigs, they coyly acknowledge the "possibility" that Ben and Michael are related, then go on to discount the relevance of the matter:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4199607.html
(skip down to the section entitled "Guilt by Association")

Is the " The Hidden Hand Of The CIA, 911 And Popular Mechanics" story by Bollyn still unimpeached?
http://www.rense.com/general63/brutalpurgeofPMstaff.htm

I wouldn't trust a member of

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pssst-- sources puleeeze

not substantiating your smears on Bollyn makes them ring pretty hollow... say, did you used to post as "Shalom" our former resident ADL/Mossad whip? LOL

Really, point us to something **BY BOLLYN** which is "neo-Nazi" or "white supremacist".... and if your source is dubious somehow, please clarify what part we should focus on, and why we should conclude as your smears suggest.

Would you accept a fellow

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CIA promotes jihad

Do you really believe what you are saying about people here supporting Osama bin Ladin? Osama was a CIA asset until the day he died. Islamism is a geolpolitical tool for the sick fucks in this country's intelligence apparatus.

The website you link to shows that Bollyn writes for a publication that is associated with neo-Nazis. That's not good. I wouldn't cite to Bollyn, because I do not think his stories are very relevant, but the website you link to does not refute his reporting, it just criticizes some theories he has supported.

LOL, as expected,

you post nothing written by Bollyn substantiating your smears on him, only a hokey link which says he writes for AFP, and since evidently ADL/Mossad don't like AFP, therefore Bollyn is a neo-nazi white supremacist. You Zionists have gotten so full of hubris, so sloppy in abusing your engineered memes and hollow smears, people just laugh at them nowadays... lol.

I agree, Bollyn is off limits!

Christopher's beating should affect all of us very deeply. I consider him one of the first casualties in the neocon's war on Truth, and it's no laughing matter.

You will often hear me asserting some fairly tounge-n-cheek comments, as I try to use exaggeration and lame jabs to drive my points home. And I'll accept the view that this is a poor way to hide my literary incompetency, especially as compared to most of you here.

Still, I deplore you to account for any less than 300,000,000 reasons why we must defend every American's right to engage in a jolly good rant, even if means calling a despicable piece of trash like Henry Kissinger, a goddamn fascist-jew!

In the spirit of true 'democracy,' we also must acknowledge the remarkable spiritual healing-effects of offering those who we may unjustly 'slander,' the EQUAL right to issue any defensive rebuttals they may choose to use! This seems central to our (sic) Judeao-Christian American 'ethos.'

-Capiche, Comrade?

You deny the holocaust, you

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9/11-DENIAL (not just a river in Egypt)

As long as we're having fun smearing everyone in sight with hollow, unsubstantiated & deliberately misleading engineered memes like "Holocaust DENIER" (rather than the plainly more accurate "REVISIONIST"), let's propagate the same BS meme logic to all the 9/11 Revisionists in the 911blogger community, and call ourselves 9/11 DENIERS (and throw in some additional BS about the shame of our degrading the memories of the victims, their families, their pets, yada yada).

I don't suppose you're going to produce any Bollyn material where he's demonstrably **DENYING** the Holocause (TM) either, correct?

Seriously, what would you Zionofascists do all day if you couldn't go around puffing up your make-believe "perpetual victimhood"?? Remind anyone here of how every American was the "victim of Islamofascists" on 9/11, justifying whatever unprovoked attrocities against Israel's enemies we wish to commit, coz "WE'RE ALL VICTIMS, REMEMBER?!?

DENIER is more accurate in

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(9/11) DENIER is more

(9/11) DENIER is more accurate in the case of (9/11), because those who try to revise (9/11) "out of history" have to deny (the official CorpGuv/Hollywood version of) reality.

(Hey! this twisting of logic, and of the English language, IS FUN!! Who's next??)