and yet your life is so empty and pathetic you find the time to come here. what does that say about your life? what does that say about you?

It's not about people "taking us seriously," it's about doing the research, looking at footage and what has happened since 9-11, and deciding what you believe makes the most sense.

Obviously if you went to college you didn't grasp the whole idea of making your own hypothesis about something. Probably much too "liberal" a concept for you.

As far as the movement only existing on the Internet, that is just laughable. Thousands of people at Ground Zero this year proved that, as well as many other events all around the country. Perhaps for your comfortable world view you wish we were relegated to the depths of cyberspace.

It's time now for the truth movement to change, to adapt to the new political environment.

It's certainly to early to be branding all Democrats as part of the problem. That will get us NOWHERE.

After all, you go for the truth with the government you have, not the government you think you should have.

The truth will come out, there will be hearings, people will be put on trial, it's just going to take a little patience.

Change is a slow process, but it has started, much of it thanks to netroots efforts such as our movement.

Hi, 'Ernie'.

Bet you didn't expect me to find you. It's really not that difficult--if you're connected.

Don't like 'Ernie'? Then pick a bloody name already.

Be seeing you...again.

At LEAST until he gets the backslash key on his keyboard fixed.

Don't bloody tell him! He might listen!

And I was enjoying my 'spooky' mystique. "pout"

I guess you just gotta laugh...

That's an ironic statement. Tell me, why are you even here then?

That's the best line since "Slush your drivel." Congrats!

I just gave you a point for that. That was hillarious. Course then I had to look at the original post...

There should be a book:

"911Blogger OUT-Takes: the Trolls in their own Words"

We have to come to grips with something regarding 9/11 - this is NOT your Father's govt conspiracy. The reason the JFK plot is still seen by 60% of Americans as a govt operation is because they used to old "hide and deny" tactic. You let that stuff bubble underneath the American consciousness long enough, and people reach their own conclusions. That doesn't fly in this day of the internet, and they knew that.

This is why there was such a plethora of 'evidence' - both real and planted - in this scenario. Because they needed, and still need, to confront this issue head on. Instead of simply nay-saying the charges, they needed to have them surface - just a bit - so that the phony investigations can pretend to confront the issues, when in reality, they will help bury them. They have one bullsh*t phony investigation under their belts, and next up is Phase Two.

Phase Two will be the Democrat Version - and it will be successfully buried to the back pages under the Presidential Impeachment food fight we're about to see happen in Congress. It's all about the % of public attention an issue gets, and if you thought Bill Clinton Penis Theater was a ratings draw, wait til you see the George Dubya Homo-erotic Jeff Gannon show start up on prime time. Talk about MSM news sleaze... Why do you think we're seeing all these "Is Bush Gay?" websites showing up? He sent flowers to his old Yale gay cheerleader bud, his spiritual advisor is a gay meth freak, every other GOP congressman is gay, etc. This is the 'evidence' being laid out in prep. It's the same as Clinton's "numerous affairs" when he was running for the Dem nomination. It's to be used later, as the continually sexually-repressed American public salivates over a Super Bowl tit and powerful people's sex lives.

Anyway, in the end, a few sacricial lambs will be judged guilty of "incompetance", and like Lynndie England, thrown to the gallows to protect the real perps. That's all - okay, so we missed a few rats who may have helped "allow" this to happen, but the govt essentially "got it right. "

And once the people see that 2 fairly expensive Commissions have found "nothing terribly wrong with the govt's official story", the issue will have been put to bed in the majority of the public's mindsets. That's how it's starting to look from here, anyway.

LIHOP is being constructed as a face-saving escape hatch. Hey, it's bad enough they LET it happen, why do you people keep obsessing on trying to prove they DID it and that the war on terror is a COMPLETE farce? Are you NEVER satisfied? Gosh, I think you DO just hate Bush and America. Something like that. Or, of course, that we're anti-semitic because we want to see Israel, not Pakistan, receive the closest scrutiny.

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Real Truther a.k.a. Verdadero Verdadero

WTCdemolition.com - Harvard Task Force

It all starts and ends with THE MEDIA. That is the critical control component, the real weapon, that they have. If this new Congress of Democrats were REAL, the first thing they'd do is go after the anti-trust legislation they've TALKED about for years, and try to break up this corporate monopoly of the news and wire services. We are POWERLESS to change minds when all the masses hear is the corporate goosestep bullshit message of the bankers' whores. The MSM system is set up to insure the survivial of it's owners, nothing more.

If the Founding Fathers came back today, and saw how the message delivery system is set up, they would take pickaxes to Capitol Hill and tear the fucker down.

http://www.911blogger.com/Activism

If your looking for solutions to expose 9/11, do you really think it'll come from the democrats?
No, it'll come from public pressure and insiders speaking up. There wouldn't even have been a 9/11 commssion (lame as it was) without the 9/11 widows bagering the congressmen.
If the neocons won this election, there would be an obvious boogiemen to fuel the 9/11 movement. Now, with the democrats, you have do-gooders (and some do some good) who wouldn't touch 9/11 with a ten foot pole.
The illusion that they will pull us out of the march to a new world order, is in a way, more dangerous than the obvious war mongering neocons.
THEY ARE PART OF THE CORPORATE POWER STRUCTURE!
The solution is to educate the public about this facade and 9/11, and develop our local networks independant of the system. Start with growing your own food. That's empowering!

Who/what is the "CORPORATE POWER STRUCTURE" that the democrats are a part of?

From my observations, the democratic party is moving away from Corporate/centralized/D.C. power and to people powered structures. They aren't fully there yet, but they seem to be moving in that direction. And if goal of the 'netroots' movement is to decentralize politics, with politicians being powered by their constituents (which is the goal of this movement), then I think it is a good thing that democrats won.

And yes, Kos is fucking idiot. But he and the 'netroots' are moving politics away from corporations and back to the people - WHICH IS US! There's plenty of shit talking we can do about Kos and other blogs, but why don't we harness what they're doing and use it to help expose the truth about 9/11.

tsoldrin is right...this knee jerk reaction shit is ridiculous. Okay, Pelosi says no impeachment hearings. But she has to say that. And remember, we do have congress members that have been critical of the "9/11 Commission Report".. We need to approach this in a sensible manner.

And how about this for hope?

From Oct. 30th, Dennis Kucinich (who probably will be chair of the Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats, and International Relations...i think 9/11 fits that bill) said this:

I will not prejudice with any criticism or charges any oversight hearings of any committee I may chair in the next Congress. However, I do know that the American people still have unanswered questions about 9/11, WMDs, the abandonment of international law and the Geneva Conventions, the war in Iraq, the White House Iraq Group, the Rendon propaganda machine, Afghanistan, Abu Graib, Guantanamo, the Pat Tillman case, Iraq war casualties, the missing $10.8 billion in Iraq reconstruction funds, the human and economic toll of the war, rendition, wiretapping, domestic spying, and plans for an attack on Iran.

Instead of freaking out at Pelosi being speaker, we should take this shift in congress as an opportunity. What I think needs to be done is this:

1. We find out which Congressional Representatives feel there are still "unanswered questions" from 9/11
2. After after creating a target list of willful Reps., we need begin a campaign to pressure them into holding hearings

This will take time. But that's just how our Congress works.

And don't forget the release of LC Final Cut next year. If can do the ground work before the film is released in theaters, we might be able use the momentum of the film as part of the strategy to have Congress hold 9/11 hearings.

peace

You're right in that it's not totally f**ked. There are a few in Congress that aren't bought off, but the majority take big money from corporate special interests in order to get elected, then, when they are in the committee meetings actually making the legislation, those same corporations have high paid lawyers watching their every move to make sure the details of the laws serve their needs. The people are not generally present at these meetings, but the corporate lawyers are, and the politicians owe them. The Washington lobby machine is made up of mostly corporate interests, and it's big money. Both Democrats and Republicans are completly complicit in this. They use the revolving door--working as CEOs in the corprations before or after their government service. As George Carlin says of the corporate/political power structure: "It's a big club, and you ain't in it!"
Just look at the Iraq war, supported by democrats, that made billions (trillions?). Don't tell me that policy wasn't influenced by corporations. War is big bucks! And the media, don't tell me they aren't run by a few corporations that have narrrow interests. And the most powerful corporation, The Federal Reserve, is a private bank that Congress gave the authority to issue money, creating the economic cycles by expanding or contracting the money supply. They have the ultimate control, because they know the economic cycles in advance. (See "The Money Masters" dvd, an excellent history of banking and the Fed)
The democrats are definitely a part of this corporate/political system that is operating in Washington IMHO.