I'm still trying to figure out what Rumsfeld's retirement means...I would imagine he's just going to be just as involved from behind the scenes, they just needed a little political capital after losing the House and Senate. Whatever it was, I just don't think it affects his actual role.

As for the Truth Movement dying, I am confident that the Democrats, now with subpoena power, will be holding lots of investigations. Not immediately, but within the year. They won't be starting with "was 9/11 was an inside job?," but I think they will be holding hearings about the Downing Street Minutes, Condi's July '01 briefing, Bush's August "ok, now you've covered your ass" warning, the NY EPA "air is safe to breathe" travesty, and many other things that I think could open the door to the kinds of investigations we want.

Short of a major whistle-blower with undenyable evidence coming forward, we'll probably just have to keep doing what we're doing...I think the only reason it might seem like the movement has lost steam over the last few weeks is because the elections have been such a distraction.

I agree, but would add we need to do more. The pressure on all the issues you mention needs to be turned up without appology. You have a good instinct for what I call the gateway issues, that is issues all reasonable people can get behind:

Ignoring printed warnings
Memos stating you're going to war no matter what
Lying to people about health risks
Pretending you can't read(gratuitous reperence to Condi's staged cluelessness about the PDB-Bin Laden determined to Attack)

I would add delaying a murder investigation for 441 days and refusing to testify under oath during said murder investigation, but the above is a solid start.

How about a march/rally, you know, like a real anti-war rally?

Well, that's interesting. I was just going over these OLD posts to catch up--and for the odd laugh--and lookee, lookee what i see: your post, days after the thread has gone cold.

That's an odd thing for a troll like you to do; post a comment few will read? It's like you're on the clock, with the job of hunting down that " bitch Sparks".

Hope they pay you enough--must be tedious 'work'.

Be seeing you...

All it takes is one fucking person from spilling the beans. Just one person high up could bring out 9/11 truth.

There must be someone high up who is human.

Holes in the dam are popping up, though. It's just a matter of time until it bursts.

Engineers and Demo experts saying 9/11 was an inside job.
Your denial of such is merely a testiment to your bias & or cognitive Dissonance.

There has not been any plausible explanation for the collapse. The essence of the NIST report's answer to why the buildings fell so quick? Because the building underneath did not offer enough resistance. Can you see the tautology in that?

The plane melting into the building is also highly unlikely. The studies I've seen make no sense.

No, I'm not an engineer, nor am I good at math. But I can see what assumptions are being used to reach the conclusions, and both defy common sense.

In fact, I wonder if the authors of the papers I've seen on the plane impacts are secretly screaming "no way it happened this way!" Probably not, but that's how they read to me.

Sure, I want to see an engineer say the obvious, if that's what it takes to convince people, but I'm not waiting for one.

100% impossible for those buildings to have collapsed in 10 seconds without use of explosives.

plain common sense.

No steel structured high rise buildings have EVER collapsed due to fire, and im talking taking hours to slowly collapse, not plop like a house of cards even.

its not "improbable" it's "Impossible".

"When hundreds of thousands of tons of weight come crashing down, the floors are not going to offer much in the way of resistance."

What you are describing is simultaneous structural failure; basically you believe that the struts, beams, supports and everything that held the building up and together FAILED all at EXACTLY the SAME time.

Please point us to the part of the official report that explains simultaneous structural failure throughout the building(s).

For extra credit, point us to the part of trhe repoprt that explains simultaneous structural failure in WTC 7.

discourages perpetrators from coming forward.

Lots of gatekeepers & disinfo artists out there deliberately holding back the truth (Chomsky, Goodman are typical examples).

The physics evidence is overwhelming & very solid, so don't knock it--science doesn't lie. It should be used along with the documentary & testimonial evidence that you mention.

you must be relatively new here. pockybot posts the same thing literally every time he swings by here. "liberals are to blame for everything, the ISI/Pakistan stuff is the holy grail of 9/11 truth, and anyone that talks about the pentagon or CD is an asshole". thats basically what he posts every single time he comes here. same shit different day. hes just an angry conservative who hates physical evidence and liberals, haha.

That's sad about pockybot. I just assumed they were having a down moment like I was.

Must releuctantly agree about the ISI/Pakistan stuff, tho--those are key trail of evidence issues documented in MSM. That is, they can not be dismissed out right as "conspiracy theories".

But no, it's not the Holy Grail--but perhaps it's a Holy Hand-grenade.

thats fine if you think the ISI stuff is the most important evidence, but pocky comes here and bashes anyone that doesnt see it that way. he does these little drive-bys and says the same exact thing every time. he shits on anyone that talks about the pentagon or CD, and he regularly blames "liberals" as he sees them for most of the worlds, and the 9/11 truth movements problems. i try to explain to him the media is largely owned by his side, the corporate conservatives and that "liberals", real ones anyway, have virtually no power in the media. he doesnt wanna hear it though, everything is "the damn liberals" fault in his eyes. i WISH liberals had enough power to screw shit up, but they just dont. Bill Maher(or any other milktoast liberal) could come out tomorrow and call 9/11 an inside job and nothing would change except for maybe his career. the same way the media either ignores or spins Chavez 9/11 comments is exactly how a "liberals" words would be twisted or ignored. we dont have power pocky, stop crying about us.

.....look, we wouldn't have a prayer of a chance if the Republicans had held Congress, now we have at least that prayer and will have to hold the Democrats to the highest standards...if they fail us, we have to expose it immediately and vociferously....Democrats emerging victorious was necessary (inspite of Pelosi and Dean folding like $3 umbrellas).

....He wouldn't like this (and I say this as fan), but Alex almost sounds like Ruppert at his most bitter in this essay...at least the content is not as dour as the headline; there are remedies and prescriptions included in the body of the essay....who knows, the Democrats might surprise us....at least there is a possibility now for exposure of the crimes of the last 5 years....if we are viligent and active in our oversight as American citiizens....

C'mon folks, hold the Democrats up to the ideals they profess.....

"But yes, by all means continue to argue about melting points, where the "hijackers are", and how big the Pentagon hole was."

Jet fuel & office furniture fires cannot make steel go molten hot.
Hijackers still alive cannot have crashed into buildings.
A Boeing 757 cannot fit into a hole 15 feet high.

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To clarify, this release was paid for by Steele, NOT by the conference organizers DC911truth group, which does not want to be associated with George Soros!

This release may be a straw man set up for the attack articles that will soon be coming from the right-wing neocon Beltway press, who will no doubt be well-represented in the audience.

His last words.

Three bullets to the forehead. He joined to hunt Osama Bin Laden. That may have been a mistake but he REPEATEDLY spoke out about the illegality of invading Iraq. While he was in uniform. And he's dead.

I've said they don't want heros; they want slaves. But I was wrong. They want heros--as long as they're dead.

Three bullets to the forehead; that's no accident.

Anyone has a friend or relative tempted to join the military for ANY reason--just tell them what happened to Pat Tillman.

R.I.P.

A member of the most hated minority in the USA.

He was an Atheist and proud of it.
May have cost him his life.